[IDA'01] Call for Participation - Early Reg July 13th

2001-07-03 Thread Frank Hoeppner



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 CALL FOR PARTICIPATION IDA-2001

  Fourth International Symposium on Intelligent Data Analysis
   New University of Lisbon, Portugal
13th-15th September 2001

  Take advantage of the EARLY REGISTRATION RATE
   DEADLINE : JULY, 13th, 2001

For additional information on the conference, registration and accomodation
forms, take a look at the conference web site

  http://centria.di.fct.unl.pt/ida01/

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  IDA-2001 will take place in Lisbon from  13th to 15th  September 2001.
It  consist of a  stimulating  program  of  tutorials,  invited talks by
leading international  experts in intelligent data analysis, contributed
papers, poster sessions, and an exciting social program.  It is intended
to  stimulate interaction  between different areas (statistics,  machine
learning, neural  networks, computer science, pattern recognition, data-
base management, KDD), so that more powerful tools emerge for extracting
knowledge from  data and a better understanding is developed of the pro-
cess of intelligent data analysis.





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2001-07-03 Thread Infinix

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Re: about a problem of khi2 test

2001-07-03 Thread Rich Ulrich

On Sun, 01 Jul 2001 14:19:31 +0200, Bruno Facon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I work in the area of intelligence differentiation. I would like to know
> how to use the khi2 statistic to determine whether the number of
> statistically different correlations between two groups is due or not to
> random variations. In particular I would like to know how to determine
> the expected numbers of statistically different correlations due to
> “chance”.
> Let me take an example. Suppose I compare two correlations matrices of
> 45 coefficients obtained from two independent groups (A and B). If there
> is no true difference between the two matrices, the number of
> statistically different correlations should be equal to 1.25 in favor of

Yes, that is the number.   But there is not a legitimate test that I
know of, unless you are willing to make a strong assumption that 
no pair of the variables should be correlated.

I never heard of the khi2 statistic before this.  I searched with
google, and found a respectable number of references, and here
is something that I had not seen with a statistic:  kh2 appears to be
solely French in its use.  Of the first 50 hits, most were in French,
at French ISPs (.fr).  The few that were in English were also from
French sources.  

One article had a reference (not available in my local libraries):
Freilich MH and Chelton DB, J Phys Oceanogr  16, 741-757. 


> 
> group A and equal to 1.25 in favor of group B (in case of  alpha = .05).
> 
> Consequently, the expected number of nonsignificant differences should
> be 42.75. Is my reasoning correct?

I would be nice to test the numbers, but I don't credit that reference
as a good one, yet.  

I don't remember for sure, but I think you might be able to compare
two correlation matrices with programs from Jim Steiger's site,

http://www.interchg.ubc.ca/steiger/multi.htm

On the other hand, you would be better off if you can compare 
the entire covariance structures, to keep from making accidental
assumptions about variances.  (Does Jim provide for that?)

-- 
Rich Ulrich, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html


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Re: cigs & figs

2001-07-03 Thread Rich Ulrich

 - in respect of the up-coming U.S. holiday -

On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:49:47 GMT, mackeral@remove~this~first~yahoo.com
(J. Williams) wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:37:48 -0400, Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> >What rights are denied to smokers?  
JW > 
> Many smokers, including my late mother, feel being unable to smoke on
> a commerical aircraft, sit anywhere in a restaurant, etc. were
> violation of her "rights."  I don't agree as a non-smoker, but that
> was her viewpoint until the day she died.

What's your point:  She was a crabby old lady, whining (or
whinging) about fancied 'rights'?  

You don't introduce anything that seems "inalienable"  or 
"self-evident" (if I may introduce July-4th language).
Nobody stopped her from smoking as long as she kept it away
from other people-who-would-be-offended.

Okay, we form governments to help assure each other of rights.   
Lately, the law sees fit to stop some assaults from happening, 
even though it did not always do that in the past. - the offender
still has quite a bit of leeway; if you don't cause fatal diseases,
you legally can offend quite a lot.  We finally have laws about
smoking.

But she wants the law to stop at HER convenience?

[ snip, various ]
JW > 
> Talking about confused and/or politically driven,  what do Scalia and
> Thomas have to do with smoking rights?   Please cite the case law.

I mention "rights"  because that did seem to be a attitude you
mentioned that was (as you see) provocative to me.

I toss in S & T, because I think that, to a large extent, they
share your mother's preference for a casual, self-centered 
definition of rights.  And they are Supreme Court justices.
[ Well, they don't say, "This is what *I* want"  these two
translate the blame/ credit to Nature (euphemism for God).]

So: I don't fault your mother *too*  harshly, when Justices
hardly do better.  Even though a prolonged skew was needed,
to end up with two like this.


-- 
Rich Ulrich, [EMAIL PROTECTED]


http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html


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Re: cigs & figs

2001-07-03 Thread Reg Jordan

Actually, the word is "unalienable."

reg
- Original Message - 
From: Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: cigs & figs


> - in respect of the up-coming U.S. holiday -
> 
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:49:47 GMT, mackeral@remove~this~first~yahoo.com
> (J. Williams) wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:37:48 -0400, Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > >What rights are denied to smokers?  
> JW > 
> > Many smokers, including my late mother, feel being unable to smoke on
> > a commerical aircraft, sit anywhere in a restaurant, etc. were
> > violation of her "rights."  I don't agree as a non-smoker, but that
> > was her viewpoint until the day she died.
> 
> What's your point:  She was a crabby old lady, whining (or
> whinging) about fancied 'rights'?  
> 
> You don't introduce anything that seems "inalienable"  or 
> "self-evident" (if I may introduce July-4th language).
> Nobody stopped her from smoking as long as she kept it away
> from other people-who-would-be-offended.
> 
> Okay, we form governments to help assure each other of rights.   
> Lately, the law sees fit to stop some assaults from happening, 
> even though it did not always do that in the past. - the offender
> still has quite a bit of leeway; if you don't cause fatal diseases,
> you legally can offend quite a lot.  We finally have laws about
> smoking.
> 
> But she wants the law to stop at HER convenience?
> 
> [ snip, various ]
> JW > 
> > Talking about confused and/or politically driven,  what do Scalia and
> > Thomas have to do with smoking rights?   Please cite the case law.
> 
> I mention "rights"  because that did seem to be a attitude you
> mentioned that was (as you see) provocative to me.
> 
> I toss in S & T, because I think that, to a large extent, they
> share your mother's preference for a casual, self-centered 
> definition of rights.  And they are Supreme Court justices.
> [ Well, they don't say, "This is what *I* want"  these two
> translate the blame/ credit to Nature (euphemism for God).]
> 
> So: I don't fault your mother *too*  harshly, when Justices
> hardly do better.  Even though a prolonged skew was needed,
> to end up with two like this.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Rich Ulrich, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html
> 
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Re: cigs & figs

2001-07-03 Thread Jerrold Zar

Yes, historically correct.  Mr. Jefferson and colleagues used
"unalienable" in the Declaration of Independence, though "inalienable"
is the overwhelming preference nowadays.

---Jerry Zar

>>> "Reg Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/03/01 04:10PM >>>
Actually, the word is "unalienable."

reg
- Original Message - 
From: Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: cigs & figs


> - in respect of the up-coming U.S. holiday -
> 
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:49:47 GMT,
mackeral@remove~this~first~yahoo.com 
> (J. Williams) wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:37:48 -0400, Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > >What rights are denied to smokers?  
> JW > 
> > Many smokers, including my late mother, feel being unable to smoke
on
> > a commerical aircraft, sit anywhere in a restaurant, etc. were
> > violation of her "rights."  I don't agree as a non-smoker, but
that
> > was her viewpoint until the day she died.
> 
> What's your point:  She was a crabby old lady, whining (or
> whinging) about fancied 'rights'?  
> 
> You don't introduce anything that seems "inalienable"  or 
> "self-evident" (if I may introduce July-4th language).
> Nobody stopped her from smoking as long as she kept it away
> from other people-who-would-be-offended.




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