Re: cigs & figs

2001-07-03 Thread Jerrold Zar 

Yes, historically correct.  Mr. Jefferson and colleagues used
"unalienable" in the Declaration of Independence, though "inalienable"
is the overwhelming preference nowadays.

---Jerry Zar

>>> "Reg Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/03/01 04:10PM >>>
Actually, the word is "unalienable."

reg
- Original Message - 
From: Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: cigs & figs


> - in respect of the up-coming U.S. holiday -
> 
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:49:47 GMT,
mackeral@remove~this~first~yahoo.com 
> (J. Williams) wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:37:48 -0400, Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > >What rights are denied to smokers?  
> JW > 
> > Many smokers, including my late mother, feel being unable to smoke
on
> > a commerical aircraft, sit anywhere in a restaurant, etc. were
> > violation of her "rights."  I don't agree as a non-smoker, but
that
> > was her viewpoint until the day she died.
> 
> What's your point:  She was a crabby old lady, whining (or
> whinging) about fancied 'rights'?  
> 
> You don't introduce anything that seems "inalienable"  or 
> "self-evident" (if I may introduce July-4th language).
> Nobody stopped her from smoking as long as she kept it away
> from other people-who-would-be-offended.




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Re: Reverse of Fisher's r to z

2001-04-09 Thread Jerrold Zar 

Yes, there are reasons for using the transformation frm z to r.

And, there are published tables of this.  For example, Appendix Table
B.19 of Zar, Biostatistical Analysis, 4th ed., 1999.

Jerrold H. Zar, Professor
Department of Biological Sciences
Northern Illinois University
DeKalb, IL 60115
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>>> Will Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/09/01 04:29AM >>>
It's elementary algebra, Cherilyn.  BTW, it's z = 0.5log..., not sqrt.

So r = (e^2z - 1)/(e^2z + 1).

Will



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