Re: [Edu-sig] F.Y.I.: this month's cover story for CACM is OLPC: Vision vs. Reality (cross posted)

2009-05-26 Thread Scott David Daniels

gerry_lowry (alliston ontario canada) wrote:
heading F.Y.I.: this month's cover story for CACM is
  OLPC: Vision   vs. Reality (cross posted)
http://www.acm.org/ 


Also note, in this issue Mark Guzdial has a Viewpoints article
entitled Education Teaching Computing to Everyone.  The article
discusses Georgia Tech's policy of all undergraduates students must
take a CS course experiences for the last ten years.  They talk a
lot about the success they've had, but at the cost of making several
distinct courses.  The requirement they used was, students would
'be able to make algorithmic and data structure choices' when writing
programs.  Initially they used a course that had a success rate (end
wit C or better) of 78% overall, but architecture, management, and
public policy majors were at below 50%.  Also, females failed at twice
the rate of males.

After moving to the newer cross-developed courses, they had those three
groups all at over 85% success.  They did three basic courses, the
ongoing CS course, a MATLAB-based course for engineers, and a media
computation (manipulate sound and images (really, at the level of pixel
manipulation, not just crop and bind) using Python.  The media course
used Python as the language.  The new media course achieved an 85%
success rate for the three groups above, and had women succeeding at
the same or better rates than the male students.  Apparently Guzdial
wrote the thextbook for the media course, Introduction to Computing and
Programming in Python, a Multimedia Approach, Prentice Hall, 2005.
This change was so successful that, second courses for both engineering
and media are now in place (the demand was high), and they've introduced
a CS minor.

--Scott David Daniels
scott.dani...@acm.org

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Re: [Edu-sig] F.Y.I.: this month's cover story for CACM is OLPC: Vision vs. Reality (cross posted)

2009-05-26 Thread kirby urner
Scott:

 The media course
 used Python as the language.  The new media course achieved an 85%
 success rate for the three groups above, and had women succeeding at
 the same or better rates than the male students.

Interesting stuff Scott.

My eldest did a combined theater-CS major in Tennessee (Clarksville,
close to Nashville) plus we have titles discussing the interface in a
theatrical context, almost impossible to think API and not think
puppet (if you're a theater person).

Given we don't have CS pre-college, at least not in PPS (Portland
Public), yet a strong interest in theater, there's some thought to
expand the theatrical track with Python in at least a few areas, with
people as objects in the Sims / Avatar sense (been looking at this
with Lindsey a little, Perl heritage, strong SVG skills).

Another cohort:  the phys ed teachers.  Using these Google Streets
cameras one has the ability the survey an ecosystem like Oaks Bottom
(near Winterhaven) then start molding raw data and footage into GIS
presentations, again using Python perhaps.  I'm hoping some of these
projects reach Vern Ceder's desk, even before the next Pycon.  A
dodecacam in Montana might be nice (an NPYM pipe dream at the moment,
though I've met the CTO).

Yo ho!  I noticed a follow-up to Cherlin's by someone who seemed on
the clueless side, assuming the severely under-served (in terms of
electrification) would remain so, i.e. the background setting seemed
static in his mind and in either/or competition with XOs i.e. if you
spend money on XOs, then you'll not be able to have any vaccines or
other trade-offs of a Draconian nature (reminds me of Pink Floyd's
how can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?! -- one of
those fuddy dud types).

I posted about Jeff's eduPycon idea @ conferences list (Python.org),
look forward to more thinking, also was nudged into Facebook groups by
the leadership, admit to being a dweeb over here, spinning on my butt
like that OSCON-purchased EuroPenguin with the Pythonic API and voice
synthesizer (need to dust him off again? -- the new software does even
more they tell me).

Kirby
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[Edu-sig] F.Y.I.: this month's cover story for CACM is OLPC: Vision vs. Reality (cross posted)

2009-05-20 Thread gerry_lowry (alliston ontario canada)
http://www.acm.org/ 



Regards,
Gerry
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Re: [Edu-sig] F.Y.I.: this month's cover story for CACM is OLPC: Vision vs. Reality (cross posted)

2009-05-20 Thread kirby urner
Hey thanks for the pointer Gerry, I'll be interested in others'
opinions of that analysis.

Mine is somewhat different in that I think real tangible evidence of a
positive future is a threat to moneyed interests pushing a different
agenda, otherwise we'd have seen XOs on Tony the Tiger cereal boxes by
now, whereas they're only just getting around to sharing free memory
stix:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17157...@n00/3535504824/

http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=17157315%40N00q=grunchm=text  (more
cereal box pix)

Not that you'd get an actual XO in the box (too heavy), but it's a
really fascinating story that could've been shared on a voluntary
basis by companies interested in boosting the OLPC agenda e.g.
Kellogg's and like that.

Lots more in my blogs, where the XO is faithfully marketed (plus I
have two, one for the roadshow, one on loan to a young child on a
rotating basis -- like a library):

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=XOw=17157315%40N00

Kirby


On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 7:56 AM, gerry_lowry (alliston ontario canada)
gerry.lo...@abilitybusinesscomputerservices.com wrote:
 http://www.acm.org/



 Regards,
 Gerry
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