Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] [WIN32] ekiga and GTK 3
On 19/03/13 15:33, Thierry Simonnet wrote: Le 19/03/2013 15:18, Eugen Dedu a écrit : On 19/03/13 14:58, Thierry Simonnet wrote: Ekiga_setup gas a big size with GTK_Bundle : 40M I think to use gtk's own libraries, not a bundle anymore. It takes less space and does not interfere with other software on the machine. It will be a lot of work without a lot of added value. On Windows platform it is a huge potential problem source. I had some bad experiment with zlib. On a PC I saw 12 different version and it is a hard work to keep everything working. Using a bundle provide the same version for gimp, ekiga Especially GTK The pros for using a local gtk are: - I noticed also problems with some users where zlib found was too old and ekiga did not start for them. - a bundle of 40M is too big, we cannot tell user to download 60 MB for ekiga installer 40MB is for the whole package : GTK runtime : 17.2MB GTK bundle : 27.2MB Usage of package avoids maintaining version. Compiling GTK with mingw is not so easy I did not mean to compile gtk, but to use the dll provided by gtk itself instead of a bundle. The pros for having a global gtk is: - security, updating the zlib library will benefit all applications using it However, in Windows world each program comes with its own libraries, as far as I know, so I prefer a local gtk. -- Eugen ___ ekiga-devel-list mailing list ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
[Ekiga-devel-list] [WIN32] ekiga and GTK 3
Hi, I compiled ekiga against gtk 3 from : http://www.tarnyko.net/repo/GTK+-Bundle-3.6.1_(TARNYKO).exe http://www.tarnyko.net/repo/gtk3_build_system/gtk+-bundle_3.6.4-20130310_win32-RC2.zip 3 minor bugs : need to copy libintl-8.dll to intl.dll in GTK3 bundle tree need to add manually libexpat-1.dll (it is in bin development tree and not in lib) need to add manually libcelt0-2.dll ((it is in bin development tree) I had the trouble when calling h323 using contact list (add @sip domain) Hope this helps -- Thierry Simonnet ESIEE-Paris Par respect pour lenvironnement, nimprimez ce mail que si ncessaire ___ ekiga-devel-list mailing list ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] [WIN32] ekiga and GTK 3
Another point : There is no gtk-xxx-installer.exe Previous version of gtk will not be removed. Le 19/03/2013 13:08, Thierry Simonnet a crit: Hi, I compiled ekiga against gtk 3 from : http://www.tarnyko.net/repo/GTK+-Bundle-3.6.1_(TARNYKO).exe http://www.tarnyko.net/repo/gtk3_build_system/gtk+-bundle_3.6.4-20130310_win32-RC2.zip 3 minor bugs : need to copy libintl-8.dll to intl.dll in GTK3 bundle tree need to add manually libexpat-1.dll (it is in bin development tree and not in lib) need to add manually libcelt0-2.dll ((it is in bin development tree) I had the trouble when calling h323 using contact list (add @sip domain) Hope this helps -- Thierry Simonnet ESIEE-Paris Par respect pour lenvironnement, nimprimez ce mail que si ncessaire ___ ekiga-devel-list mailing list ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list -- Thierry Simonnet ESIEE-Paris Par respect pour lenvironnement, nimprimez ce mail que si ncessaire ___ ekiga-devel-list mailing list ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] [WIN32] ekiga and GTK 3
There is no problem keeping both version. PATHs have to be managed. I found 2 other missing things : libiconv and libgcc_s used by GTK packager. I generated ekiga_setup against GTK_Bundle. It might work with GTK_Runtime (to be tested) I tested the setup on 2 win32 machines : std winXP : it seems working. I have sound, video. I can phone... No major trouble. The background of video window is black win7 on my HP laptop with integrated caméra. As usual, camera is activated, calls are working but without displaying video. Ekiga_setup gas a big size with GTK_Bundle : 40M Le 19/03/2013 14:23, Eugen Dedu a écrit : It cannot be removed, because it might be used by other software on that machine. What we can do is to inform the user to remove gtk if no other software uses it, but it is error-prone. On 19/03/13 13:17, Thierry Simonnet wrote: Another point : There is no gtk-xxx-installer.exe Previous version of gtk will not be removed. Le 19/03/2013 13:08, Thierry Simonnet a écrit : Hi, I compiled ekiga against gtk 3 from : * http://www.tarnyko.net/repo/GTK+-Bundle-3.6.1_(TARNYKO).exe * http://www.tarnyko.net/repo/gtk3_build_system/gtk+-bundle_3.6.4-20130310_win32-RC2.zip 3 minor bugs : * need to copy libintl-8.dll to intl.dll in GTK3 bundle tree * need to add manually libexpat-1.dll (it is in bin development tree and not in lib) * need to add manually libcelt0-2.dll ((it is in bin development tree) I had the trouble when calling h323 using contact list (add @sip domain) ___ ekiga-devel-list mailing list ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list -- Thierry Simonnet ESIEE-Paris Par respect pour l’environnement, n’imprimez ce mail que si nécessaire ___ ekiga-devel-list mailing list ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] [WIN32] ekiga and GTK 3
Le 19/03/2013 14:36, Eugen Dedu a écrit : On 19/03/13 14:32, Thierry Simonnet wrote: There is no problem keeping both version. PATHs have to be managed. I found 2 other missing things : libiconv and libgcc_s used by GTK packager. I generated ekiga_setup against GTK_Bundle. It might work with GTK_Runtime (to be tested) I tested the setup on 2 win32 machines : * std winXP : it seems working. I have sound, video. I can phone... No major trouble. The background of video window is black * win7 on my HP laptop with integrated caméra. As usual, camera is activated, calls are working but without displaying video. Ekiga_setup gas a big size with GTK_Bundle : 40M I think to use gtk's own libraries, not a bundle anymore. It takes less space and does not interfere with other software on the machine. It will be a lot of work without a lot of added value. On Windows platform it is a huge potential problem source. I had some bad experiment with zlib. On a PC I saw 12 different version and it is a hard work to keep everything working. Using a bundle provide the same version for gimp, ekiga Especially GTK Le 19/03/2013 14:23, Eugen Dedu a écrit : It cannot be removed, because it might be used by other software on that machine. What we can do is to inform the user to remove gtk if no other software uses it, but it is error-prone. On 19/03/13 13:17, Thierry Simonnet wrote: Another point : There is no gtk-xxx-installer.exe Previous version of gtk will not be removed. Le 19/03/2013 13:08, Thierry Simonnet a écrit : Hi, I compiled ekiga against gtk 3 from : * http://www.tarnyko.net/repo/GTK+-Bundle-3.6.1_(TARNYKO).exe * http://www.tarnyko.net/repo/gtk3_build_system/gtk+-bundle_3.6.4-20130310_win32-RC2.zip 3 minor bugs : * need to copy libintl-8.dll to intl.dll in GTK3 bundle tree * need to add manually libexpat-1.dll (it is in bin development tree and not in lib) * need to add manually libcelt0-2.dll ((it is in bin development tree) I had the trouble when calling h323 using contact list (add @sip domain) ___ ekiga-devel-list mailing list ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list -- Thierry Simonnet ESIEE-Paris Par respect pour l’environnement, n’imprimez ce mail que si nécessaire ___ ekiga-devel-list mailing list ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] [WIN32] ekiga and GTK 3
On 19/03/13 14:58, Thierry Simonnet wrote: Ekiga_setup gas a big size with GTK_Bundle : 40M I think to use gtk's own libraries, not a bundle anymore. It takes less space and does not interfere with other software on the machine. It will be a lot of work without a lot of added value. On Windows platform it is a huge potential problem source. I had some bad experiment with zlib. On a PC I saw 12 different version and it is a hard work to keep everything working. Using a bundle provide the same version for gimp, ekiga Especially GTK The pros for using a local gtk are: - I noticed also problems with some users where zlib found was too old and ekiga did not start for them. - a bundle of 40M is too big, we cannot tell user to download 60 MB for ekiga installer The pros for having a global gtk is: - security, updating the zlib library will benefit all applications using it However, in Windows world each program comes with its own libraries, as far as I know, so I prefer a local gtk. -- Eugen ___ ekiga-devel-list mailing list ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] [WIN32] ekiga and GTK 3
Le 19/03/2013 15:18, Eugen Dedu a écrit : On 19/03/13 14:58, Thierry Simonnet wrote: Ekiga_setup gas a big size with GTK_Bundle : 40M I think to use gtk's own libraries, not a bundle anymore. It takes less space and does not interfere with other software on the machine. It will be a lot of work without a lot of added value. On Windows platform it is a huge potential problem source. I had some bad experiment with zlib. On a PC I saw 12 different version and it is a hard work to keep everything working. Using a bundle provide the same version for gimp, ekiga Especially GTK The pros for using a local gtk are: - I noticed also problems with some users where zlib found was too old and ekiga did not start for them. - a bundle of 40M is too big, we cannot tell user to download 60 MB for ekiga installer 40MB is for the whole package : GTK runtime : 17.2MB GTK bundle : 27.2MB Usage of package avoids maintaining version. Compiling GTK with mingw is not so easy The pros for having a global gtk is: - security, updating the zlib library will benefit all applications using it However, in Windows world each program comes with its own libraries, as far as I know, so I prefer a local gtk. -- Thierry Simonnet ESIEE-Paris Par respect pour l’environnement, n’imprimez ce mail que si nécessaire ___ ekiga-devel-list mailing list ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
