Re: [Ekiga-list] [Test site proposal]

2007-01-13 Thread Remco Treffkorn
On Saturday 13 January 2007 11:41, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le samedi 13 janvier 2007 à 10:31 -0800, Remco Treffkorn a écrit :
> > On Saturday 13 January 2007 09:41, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > > Le samedi 13 janvier 2007 à 18:19 +0100, Daniel Huhardeaux a écrit :
> > > > Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > Hello
> > > >
> > > > > However, we are using Asterisk, and Asterisk allows setting codecs
> > > > > only for the SIP channel and not application by application, which
> > > > > is the problem.
> > > >
> > > > Don't quiet understand the meaning of this. You can set codecs per
> > > > user or peer - eg 500 Ulaw/Alaw, 502 ilbc&gsm, etc ...- Also, you can
> > > > force a codec with the ${SIP_CODEC} variable.
> > >
> > > Just try...
> > > It is not possible.
> >
> > Codec preferences can be set in the [general] section in sip.conf, but
> > overwritten in the individual extension setting. It is possible to have a
> > [500] extension with only g.711 and for example) and a [501] with gsm and
> > g.729.
>
> Sure, but 500 is not a SIP peer/user. 500 is a "local" extension that
> bridges to the Echo() application.
>
> Am I missing something?

I think the point was that the [general] section allows you to allow one list 
of codecs, but the peer section overwrites that.

If all your peers have explicit codec selections, you can control the codec 
list for apps by the codec list in the [general] section. How else would 
asterisk make a codec selection? It's still a sip call...

Cheers,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Very choppy sound with sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-01-13 Thread JCA
>>   The only thing I am getting is a "Remote user rejected call" error message.
>>
>>
> 1). Are You sure, You have iLBC codec enabled? (don't remember if that
> site accepts anything else).

That's right - iLBC was not enabled. After enabling it, the
results were the same as when getting a connection with [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and the PCMA codec - sound so choppy that is almost unintelligible.

> 2). If codec is enabled, try ekiga -d=4 (debug), and maybe post it for
> analysis by Damien?

   The log corresponding to 30 seconds worth of call is nearly 64KB
long. I wonder if such a thing can be posted here?
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Re: [Ekiga-list] [Test site proposal]

2007-01-13 Thread Damien Sandras
Le samedi 13 janvier 2007 à 21:23 +0100, Jan Schampera a écrit :
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:41:19 +0100
> Damien Sandras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Sure, but 500 is not a SIP peer/user. 500 is a "local" extension that
> > bridges to the Echo() application.
> 
> Ah, you call it in the dialing plan?

Yes.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] [Test site proposal]

2007-01-13 Thread Jan Schampera
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:41:19 +0100
Damien Sandras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sure, but 500 is not a SIP peer/user. 500 is a "local" extension that
> bridges to the Echo() application.

Ah, you call it in the dialing plan?

J.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Router problem

2007-01-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 13 January 2007 19:43, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Start 6890
> > End 6900

Those are the ports you are using for amsn, Keith.

> > UDP 5060
> > TCP  1720
>
That big depends on the result of the NAT test.  The FAQ tells you the 
implications of each possible result.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Router problem

2007-01-13 Thread Damien Sandras
Hello,

Le samedi 13 janvier 2007 à 19:06 +, Keith Powell a écrit :
> Hello.
> 
> I have just bought a web cam and am trying to get Ekiga working, but 
> without much success! As this is my first attempt at setting up 'web 
> chatting', I am very much a newbie. So sorry if this is a very basic 
> question.
> 
> When I run Ekiga, without even trying to connect, the TX/RX light on 
> my router immediately comes on and stays on permanently. The only way 
> to stop it being on, is to switch the router off. It stays on even 
> when I have shut ekiga down. Whilst it is on, the router is blocked 
> and cannot be used for anything. 
> 

So Ekiga is crashing your router. 

Wouldn't you have a router that supposedly supports SIP and has a bug?

[...]

> I have been told that, in order to get Linux 'chat' programs sending 
> and receiving, I need the forwarding ports open in my router:
> 
> Start 6890
> End 6900
> UDP 5060
> TCP  1720
> 

That's wrong. (Check the FAQ)

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Re: [Ekiga-list] [Test site proposal]

2007-01-13 Thread Damien Sandras
Le samedi 13 janvier 2007 à 10:31 -0800, Remco Treffkorn a écrit :
> On Saturday 13 January 2007 09:41, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Le samedi 13 janvier 2007 à 18:19 +0100, Daniel Huhardeaux a écrit :
> > > Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > > > [...]
> > >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > > However, we are using Asterisk, and Asterisk allows setting codecs only
> > > > for the SIP channel and not application by application, which is the
> > > > problem.
> > >
> > > Don't quiet understand the meaning of this. You can set codecs per user
> > > or peer - eg 500 Ulaw/Alaw, 502 ilbc&gsm, etc ...- Also, you can force a
> > > codec with the ${SIP_CODEC} variable.
> >
> > Just try...
> > It is not possible.
> 
> Codec preferences can be set in the [general] section in sip.conf, but 
> overwritten in the individual extension setting. It is possible to have a 
> [500] extension with only g.711 and for example) and a [501] with gsm and 
> g.729.
> 

Sure, but 500 is not a SIP peer/user. 500 is a "local" extension that
bridges to the Echo() application.

Am I missing something?
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Router problem

2007-01-13 Thread ael
Keith Powell wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I have just bought a web cam and am trying to get Ekiga working, but 
> without much success! As this is my first attempt at setting up 'web 
> chatting', I am very much a newbie. So sorry if this is a very basic 
> question.
> 
> When I run Ekiga, without even trying to connect, the TX/RX light on 
> my router immediately comes on and stays on permanently. The only way 
> to stop it being on, is to switch the router off. It stays on even 
> when I have shut ekiga down. Whilst it is on, the router is blocked 
> and cannot be used for anything. 

No idea what is happening there, but I would suggest that you start by
turning off video (under Preferences) and just get the audio going.

> I have another problem as well, which I am sending in the same message 
> in case they are related.
> 
> There is no sound. When I run the set-up wizard and do the sound test, 
> nothing. The mic and speaker sliders in the audio tab are completely 
> to the left. When I try to move them, they spring back to the left, 
> so the audio is always turned right down.

This is a "feature" of ekiga which completely confused me when I first
tried it, and had teething problems. The behaviour you describe is
normal: the sliders only become active and sensible during a call. So
that is one problem solved :-)

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[Ekiga-list] Router problem

2007-01-13 Thread Keith Powell
Hello.

I have just bought a web cam and am trying to get Ekiga working, but 
without much success! As this is my first attempt at setting up 'web 
chatting', I am very much a newbie. So sorry if this is a very basic 
question.

When I run Ekiga, without even trying to connect, the TX/RX light on 
my router immediately comes on and stays on permanently. The only way 
to stop it being on, is to switch the router off. It stays on even 
when I have shut ekiga down. Whilst it is on, the router is blocked 
and cannot be used for anything. 

I have another problem as well, which I am sending in the same message 
in case they are related.

There is no sound. When I run the set-up wizard and do the sound test, 
nothing. The mic and speaker sliders in the audio tab are completely 
to the left. When I try to move them, they spring back to the left, 
so the audio is always turned right down.

I have tried Ekiga on three Linux distributions and each has the same 
problems.

Also, I have tested two other 'chat' programs and neither have this 
router problem.

I have been told that, in order to get Linux 'chat' programs sending 
and receiving, I need the forwarding ports open in my router:

Start 6890
End 6900
UDP 5060
TCP  1720

This I have done.

The router works well for surfing and mailing. It's just with Ekiga! 

I have searched the archives and Googled, but no success. So if anyone 
can please help me, I would be very grateful.

Many thanks

Keith
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Coexistence of ekiga with an ATA

2007-01-13 Thread ael
Simon Wood wrote:
> Hi, Just thought I'd add my $0.02 on this. I have a set up of 3
> machines (all running Ekiga) and 1 hard phone running behind a single
> OpenWrt router.
> 
> To get this working I altered the port settings on Ekiga(s) using
> gconf-editor, and enabled both STUN and Proxy (fwdnat2.pulver.net). I
> have set each endpoint to use a set ports which is exclusive (doesn't
> overlap any of it's siblings).
> 
> Each endpoint has seperate FWD numbers (for testing) and can
> call/message each other, albeit via going out to the internet and
> coming back in again.

But my ATA (= hard phone?) is *upstream* of the routers (for a reason)
which may be the crucial difference. If I moved the ATA downstream, I
would expect the problem to go away, but I haven't tried this so far.

Otherwise my setup is just the same. Different proxy , but that should
not matter.

> I think that I might have seen a similar message in the past I'll
> confirm later whether it happens if I turn off the proxying.

Unless we are talking of a different message, turning off proxying will
eliminate the message :-)

> Note on ports: You *HAVE* to set ranges... otherwise Ekiga gets
> upset. My IP hard-phone only needs 2 ports (SIP and RTP).

So does mine, and yes all my different ekigas have different non
overlapping port settings which are distinct from those of the ATA.

> I see no value in placing your ATA upstream, it's ports should be
> exclusive anyhow.

You have missed the point, It's not the  ports: it's bandwidth. I have
256Kb/s upstream and 2Mb/s downstream on a broadband connection, but I
still get occasional breakups even when the ATA alone is engaged in a
call. If it was downstream of a router, it would not be able to give
priority to its own voip packets during a call. Oh, and I can just power
the modem and ATA to maintain voip with no other machines running for
environmental reasons when I don't need the rest of the network active.

As I have said before everything seems to work 95% of the time, but
requires this touching of the STUN setting in ekiga instances before
they can make calls. It is not a big deal, but it would be nice to
understand what is going on.

> So your set up isn't that unusual 

Maybe having the ATA up front is the unusual part?

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Re: [Ekiga-list] [Test site proposal]

2007-01-13 Thread Remco Treffkorn
On Saturday 13 January 2007 09:41, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le samedi 13 janvier 2007 à 18:19 +0100, Daniel Huhardeaux a écrit :
> > Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > > [...]
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > > However, we are using Asterisk, and Asterisk allows setting codecs only
> > > for the SIP channel and not application by application, which is the
> > > problem.
> >
> > Don't quiet understand the meaning of this. You can set codecs per user
> > or peer - eg 500 Ulaw/Alaw, 502 ilbc&gsm, etc ...- Also, you can force a
> > codec with the ${SIP_CODEC} variable.
>
> Just try...
> It is not possible.

Codec preferences can be set in the [general] section in sip.conf, but 
overwritten in the individual extension setting. It is possible to have a 
[500] extension with only g.711 and for example) and a [501] with gsm and 
g.729.

Cheers,
Remco
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Coexistence of ekiga with an ATA

2007-01-13 Thread Simon Wood
Hi,
Just thought I'd add my $0.02 on this. I have a set up of 3 machines (all 
running Ekiga) and 1 hard phone running behind a single OpenWrt router.

To get this working I altered the port settings on Ekiga(s) using gconf-editor, 
and enabled both STUN and Proxy (fwdnat2.pulver.net). I have set each endpoint 
to use a set ports which is exclusive (doesn't overlap any of it's siblings).

Each endpoint has seperate FWD numbers (for testing) and can call/message each 
other, albeit via going out to the internet and coming back in again.

I think that I might have seen a similar message in the past I'll confirm 
later whether it happens if I turn off the proxying.

Note on ports:
You *HAVE* to set ranges... otherwise Ekiga gets upset. My IP hard-phone only 
needs 2 ports (SIP and RTP).

I'm still trying to understand the port usage, but for a single endpoint it 
looks like you need:
1 SIP listener Port (ie. 5080)
at least 2 (per reigistered/active account) UDP ports for SIP operation 
(ie. 5081:5089) - it seems that these are randomly randomly from this range as 
an account is registered/enabled.
at least 2 (1 each direction) for RTP (ie. 8080:8089) - we'll need more 
once multi-line starts working... :-)

The better solution for this many endpoints would be setting up my own SIP 
proxy on the router, but I'm being lazy.

I see no value in placing your ATA upstream, it's ports should be exclusive 
anyhow.

So your set up isn't that unusual ;-)
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Re: [Ekiga-list] [Test site proposal]

2007-01-13 Thread Damien Sandras
Le samedi 13 janvier 2007 à 18:19 +0100, Daniel Huhardeaux a écrit :
> Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > [...]
> Hello
> >
> > However, we are using Asterisk, and Asterisk allows setting codecs only
> > for the SIP channel and not application by application, which is the
> > problem.
> >   
> Don't quiet understand the meaning of this. You can set codecs per user 
> or peer - eg 500 Ulaw/Alaw, 502 ilbc&gsm, etc ...- Also, you can force a 
> codec with the ${SIP_CODEC} variable.
> 

Just try...
It is not possible.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] [Test site proposal]

2007-01-13 Thread Daniel Huhardeaux
Damien Sandras a écrit :
> [...]
Hello
>
> However, we are using Asterisk, and Asterisk allows setting codecs only
> for the SIP channel and not application by application, which is the
> problem.
>   
Don't quiet understand the meaning of this. You can set codecs per user 
or peer - eg 500 Ulaw/Alaw, 502 ilbc&gsm, etc ...- Also, you can force a 
codec with the ${SIP_CODEC} variable.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Coexistence of ekiga with an ATA

2007-01-13 Thread ael
Julien Puydt wrote:
> ael a écrit :
> 
>>Initially there are 14 packets exchanged. This is while ekiga is
>>starting up. At this point attempted calls to, say [EMAIL PROTECTED], fail
>>usually with abnormal call termination.
> 
> 
> You mean ekiga wasn't registered yet to ekiga.net ?

No. Normally there is no problem with registration. This was explained
earlier in this thread. I suspect that the system is behaving in some
respects at least as a symmetric NAT when the STUN protocol is
nondeterministic, although I have not yet tried to analyse the STUN
traffic: I am a newbie and need to read the relevant rfcs. I hope to
find time to do that soon.

Meanwhile, things work with this odd fix of "reactivating" the STUN
setting. But it would be nice to understand what is happening and to get
total reliability.

I did say that the captured data was the STUN traffic: it was filtered
so that only packets exchanged with the stun servers were collected. So
the registration phase was not captured.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] 2.04 Release

2007-01-13 Thread Damien Sandras
Le vendredi 12 janvier 2007 à 10:38 -0800, George Boyd a écrit :
> I am considering changing over to the CVS version of Ekiga. Is 2.04
> going to be released soon, or is it worthwhile to go ahead and use the
> CVS version?

I would wait for 2.0.4. As soon as I have 2 minutes, I'll work on it.
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