[Ekiga-list] ekiga for roaming laptop use

2007-02-12 Thread Tobias Richter
Hi,

Ekiga works nicely, it was the only voip app that managed to
pass my NAT setup without any fuzz, and I tested five of them.

But I'd like to use it on a roaming laptop. The outgoing net
interface changes between three possible interfaces and it can
change while Ekiga is running. In such a case I have to 
a) quit Ekiga, as I cannot configure it to use an
   interface that wasn't up on startup
b) ensure the interface is up
c) start Ekiga again
d) configure the outgoing net interface in Preferences
e) restart Ekiga, as it doesn't retry the SIP registration
   right after the config change (maybe it does so later)
That's really awkward. If Ekiga would just use the interface with
the default route on it and recheck this if a network transaction
fails, that would be much more convenient.

Tobias
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga does not start

2007-02-12 Thread Damien Sandras
Le lundi 12 février 2007 à 00:17 +0100, Tobias Eberle a écrit :
> > Is accessibility enabled ?
> 
> shouldn't.
> 
> In the Gnome preferences I found:
> "Keyboard accessibility features"
> "Assistive Technologies"
> 
> both are disabled.
> 
> 
> Clicking through the items in gconf-editor I notices the following:
> After I entered /apps/ekiga/general/user_interface/calls_history_window
> absolutely no values are displayed anymore, only the key names - for
> every key in gconf. Restarting gconf-editor leads to values appearing
> again (until I enter the directory above again). This seems a bit
> strange and does not happen with a newly created (Unix) user account.

Try gdb ekiga
type 'run'
then when it freezes, hit Ctrl-C and type "thread apply all bt"
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Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga for roaming laptop use

2007-02-12 Thread Damien Sandras
Hi,

Le lundi 12 février 2007 à 10:57 +0100, Tobias Richter a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> Ekiga works nicely, it was the only voip app that managed to
> pass my NAT setup without any fuzz, and I tested five of them.
> 

:-)

> But I'd like to use it on a roaming laptop. The outgoing net
> interface changes between three possible interfaces and it can
> change while Ekiga is running. In such a case I have to 
>   a) quit Ekiga, as I cannot configure it to use an
>  interface that wasn't up on startup
>   b) ensure the interface is up
>   c) start Ekiga again
>   d) configure the outgoing net interface in Preferences
>   e) restart Ekiga, as it doesn't retry the SIP registration
>  right after the config change (maybe it does so later)
> That's really awkward. If Ekiga would just use the interface with
> the default route on it and recheck this if a network transaction
> fails, that would be much more convenient.
> 

That is one of my priorities for next release. You are indeed facing one
of the weak points of Ekiga...
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga does not start

2007-02-12 Thread Tobias Eberle
Hello,

> Try gdb ekiga
> type 'run'
> then when it freezes, hit Ctrl-C and type "thread apply all bt"

I have already done that. See my answer to the post from Jan yesterday.

Tobias

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga does not start

2007-02-12 Thread Damien Sandras
Le lundi 12 février 2007 à 14:14 +0100, Tobias Eberle a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> > Try gdb ekiga
> > type 'run'
> > then when it freezes, hit Ctrl-C and type "thread apply all bt"
> 
> I have already done that. See my answer to the post from Jan yesterday.
> 

Did you kill it with Ctrl-C or with killall -9 ekiga ?

Because the backtrace does not contain anything useful.


You could also use strace and examine ekiga -d 4.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga does not start

2007-02-12 Thread Tobias Eberle
Hello,

> Did you kill it with Ctrl-C or with killall -9 ekiga ?
> Because the backtrace does not contain anything useful.

Ctrl-C

> You could also use strace and examine ekiga -d 4.

I have solved it! In the strace output I found that it tried to access
an sftp resource through gnome-vfs using libsftp. I have also noticed
before that when I started gthumb it was asking for the password for the
same sftp resource. (I have ignored that because I had no time to find
the cause.) The reason for this behaviour is the following: I had added
a bookmark to this resource to nautilus! After deleting this bookmark
ekiga starts perfectly! :)

What do you think, to whom should I file in a bug report?

Thank you very much for helping me, I am happy to be able to use ekiga
again (now I can delete linphone! :) )

Tobias

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga does not start

2007-02-12 Thread Damien Sandras
Hi !

Le lundi 12 février 2007 à 20:20 +0100, Tobias Eberle a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> > Did you kill it with Ctrl-C or with killall -9 ekiga ?
> > Because the backtrace does not contain anything useful.
> 
> Ctrl-C
> 
> > You could also use strace and examine ekiga -d 4.
> 
> I have solved it! In the strace output I found that it tried to access
> an sftp resource through gnome-vfs using libsftp. I have also noticed
> before that when I started gthumb it was asking for the password for the
> same sftp resource. (I have ignored that because I had no time to find
> the cause.) The reason for this behaviour is the following: I had added
> a bookmark to this resource to nautilus! After deleting this bookmark
> ekiga starts perfectly! :)
> 
> What do you think, to whom should I file in a bug report?
> 

gnome-vfs I suppose. We do not even rely on it.

> Thank you very much for helping me, I am happy to be able to use ekiga
> again (now I can delete linphone! :) )

Enjoy :P
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-12 Thread Damien Sandras
Sending again.

Le lundi 12 février 2007 à 22:32 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> Most of you already know that I want to reorganize the Ekiga team to
> bring fresh air into the project.
> 
> The current active project leaders including myself would like o
> concentrate on what they do best : coding, packaging, ... 
> 
> Consequently, we would like to "hire" new contributors who will help the
> current team.
> 
> Here is the list of tasks I have identified, with the proposed
> "maintainers".
> 
> 1) CODING
> -
> 
> Moving Ekiga to the 3.00 release is not a small task. People
> coordinating this task are Damien Sandras, Julien Puydt and Jan
> Schampera. New coders are welcome.
> 
> 2) BUG TRIAGING
> ---
> 
> We are receiving bug reports, as any software would. There is a
> preliminary task before accepting a bug report. This task includes :
> checking for duplicates of that bug report, trying to reproduce it,
> making sure that all the relevant information has been given by the
> reporter and closing old bug reports.
> 
> Currently, Julien, Jan and myself are doing this task with the GNOME
> bugzilla team. The best would be that some new persons take that task
> into their responsability and that we only do "level 2" support for
> those bugs.
> 
> 3) DOCUMENTATION / FAQ
> --
> 
> Writing Documentation on the WIKI and updating the FAQ is a hard job. It
> helps new users with a minimum knowledge to step in and make the
> userbase grow.
> 
> I propose Yannick as responsible of this task. Yannick is doing an
> incredible job in the Ubuntu community. Native speakers will be required
> to help him in his job.
> 
> 4) MANUAL
> -
> 
> I am the one to write the manual of Ekiga when there is a new release.
> Christopher Warner and Matthias Redlich wrote the first version of the
> manual. Ekiga 3.00 will require major updates and a new manual.
> 
> We are looking for volunteers for that task too.
> 
> 5) PACKAGING
> 
> 
> Kilian is the current maintainer for http://snapshots.seconix.com.
> New architectures, new distributions should be supported and added to
> our list. Kilian will need help for that.
> 
> 6) WEB SERVERS
> --
> 
> Having a professional look for http://ekiga.net and http://ekiga.org is
> mandatory for our image.
> 
> Fabian Deutsch will coordinate the work for http://ekiga.org, the new
> site will be based on Media Wiki.
> 
> We need somebody for http://ekiga.net. It will either require writing a
> skin for SERWEB or writing new code to handle registrations and welcome
> the user. Currently, http://ekiga.net is very limited.
>  
> What could be done is incorporating the user signup into
> http://ekiga.org and have one unique site with a global offer. Ekiga.org
> would also give information about the Ekiga.net service but there would
> be no specific site for ekiga.net. We need volunteers for that and
> Fabian needs help.
> 
> 7) WORD OF MOUTH
> 
> 
> We need somebody to coordinate the "press" team. More articles about
> Ekiga, more hype, spread it !
> 
> That is an important part of every project. It needs volunteers.
> 
> Thanks for reading me !
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