Re: [Ekiga-list] Echo Test does not produce any sound

2010-12-21 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
On 22 Dec, 2010,at 01:53 AM, stara posta  wrote:
Dear Dave,



after opening up ports 5000 to 35000is workingI can here the female voice in Echo Test and, I can here the female voice in Conference Room, thank you No problem. As I understand it this is probably caused by your ADSL router supporting symmetric NAT. The SIP signalling ports I believe are well known, but the RTP ports are randomly assigned. I think symmetric NAT expects incoming connections to be made on the same outgoing port numbers - so if the incoming RTP streams are on different ports this breaks. The "Workarounds" section here has some useful information:http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/NAT+and+VOIPAnd also:http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router#Symmetric_NAT:_Dynamic_navigation_of_NAT_routersCheers, DaveFrom: translator1...@hotmail.esTo: ekiga-list@gnome.orgDate: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:07:28 +0100Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Echo Test does not produce any sound






Dear Dave,If I open up ports 5000 to 35000, I can here the female voice in Echo Test and, but after a "crying queek" is playing until I stop the called.I can here the female voice in Conference Room, after there is only silence.Do you have any ideas, do you need my output.txt again?I did it anyway and I have found this:packetsSent   = 2333    octetsSent    = 373280    averageSendTime   = 20    maximumSendTime   = 20    minimumSendTime   = 20    packetsReceived   = 2330do you want me to send you the whole file?IgTo: ekiga-list@gnome.orgFrom: davekoelme...@me.comDate: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 01:51:43 +Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Echo Test does not produce any soundOn 20 Dec, 2010,at 11:17 AM, stara posta  wrote:
However Echo test or Conference Room are not.Tried this:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/382281Dear Yannick,when I start EKIGA and try the Echo test or the Conference Room I cannot here anything at all, however I can see that the capture tab is moving when I am speaking at the mic. I have:on my ADSL router - enable in NAT port forwarding (ports 5000-5100) If you open up ports 5000 to 35000, does that change anything?Cheers,Dave___
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Re: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 3.3.0 [UNSTABLE] available

2010-12-21 Thread Eugen Dedu

On 21/12/10 23:09, Palo S. wrote:


Great, congratulations!
I tried to compile it and I managed to compile everything
(ptlib, opal, ekiga - well, h264 did not compile so I
disabled it) but it breaks at linking, with undefined
XInitThreads. What version of Xorg/Xlib is needed?
(addding /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 to the linker
command did not work either)

/usr/bin/ld: main_window.o: undefined reference to symbol 'XInitThreads'
/usr/bin/ld: note: 'XInitThreads' is defined in DSO /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 so 
try adding it to the linker command line
/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation


Try adding -lX11 .  Also, give us the complete command line.

I think I know the culprit: do you use -Wl,as-needed or something like 
this?  I remember (have forgotten about that) that this does not work 
anymore with 3.3.x, and should be fixed...


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Re: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 3.3.0 [UNSTABLE] available

2010-12-21 Thread Palo S.

Great, congratulations!
I tried to compile it and I managed to compile everything
(ptlib, opal, ekiga - well, h264 did not compile so I
disabled it) but it breaks at linking, with undefined 
XInitThreads. What version of Xorg/Xlib is needed?
(addding /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 to the linker
command did not work either)

/usr/bin/ld: main_window.o: undefined reference to symbol 'XInitThreads'
/usr/bin/ld: note: 'XInitThreads' is defined in DSO /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 so 
try adding it to the linker command line
/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga + Asterisk

2010-12-21 Thread Eugen Dedu

On 20/12/10 16:32, David Woodfall wrote:

Hi, I have been following the docs for setting up ekiga with asterisk
and can't seem to get it to work.

I have asterisk running already and it works fine with linphone, but
for some reason if I try to dial with ekiga I always get Remote user is
busy.


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga + Asterisk

2010-12-21 Thread David Woodfall

On (22:14 21/12/10), Shawn Adams  put forth the proposition:

David

I'm no expert, unsure if this helps, but I have the following:
(I've never had time to fully understand if both sip.conf and users.conf
entries are necessary)

sip.conf
---
[6001]
type=friend
username=6001
secret=
nat=no
host=dynamic
context=default

users.conf


I've not seen any docs relating to a users.conf but I will have a look
into it. Probably best for me to backup my .confs and start with a
clean config. Thanks for your reply.

Dave



[6001]
username = 6001
transfer = yes
mailbox = 6001
call-limit = 100
fullname = 6001
registersip = yes
callgroup = 1
context = default
cid_number = 6001
hasvoicemail = yes
vmsecret = 
email =
threewaycalling = yes
hasdirectory = yes
callwaiting = no
hasmanager = no
hasagent = no
hassip = yes
hasiax = no
secret = 6001
nat = no
canreinvite = no
dtmfmode = rfc2833
insecure = no
pickupgroup = 1
autoprov = no
label =
macaddress =
linenumber = 1
disallow = all
allow = ulaw,gsm
;host=dynamic

extensions.conf
==
exten => 6001,1,Dial(SIP/6001,20)
exten => 6001,2,Voicemail(6001)
exten => 6001,102,Voicemail(6001)
exten => 6001,103,Hangup


Does ekiga register correctly ? appears so, as you state echo test works
from the ekiga client. that says the extensions.conf may be the issue
when routing an inbound call to dave.

I seem to recall that ekiga needs the correct USER as well as ACCOUNT
NAME and password.

attach to asterisk server with:

asterisk -rvvv

and watch the debug as ekiga registers and calls, or is called.


On 12/20/2010 04:32 PM, David Woodfall wrote:

Hi, I have been following the docs for setting up ekiga with asterisk
and can't seem to get it to work.

I have asterisk running already and it works fine with linphone, but
for some reason if I try to dial with ekiga I always get Remote user is
busy.

sip.conf:

 [dave]
 type=friend
 secret=xxx
 qualify=yes
 nat=no
 host=dynamic
 canreinvite=no
 context=phones
 defaultuser=dave

I've tried changing these settings but nothing seems to work. The echo
test does work though.

extension.conf:

 exten => dave,1,Verbose(1,Extension dave)
 exten => dave,n,Dial(SIP/dave,15)
 exten => dave,n,Playback(vm-nobodyavail)
 exten => dave,n,Voicemail(d...@dave)
 exten => dave,n,Playback(vm-goodbye)
 exten => dave,n,Hangup()

Any ideas?



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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga + Asterisk

2010-12-21 Thread Shawn Adams
David

I'm no expert, unsure if this helps, but I have the following:
(I've never had time to fully understand if both sip.conf and users.conf
entries are necessary)

sip.conf
---
[6001]
type=friend
username=6001
secret=
nat=no
host=dynamic
context=default

users.conf

[6001]
username = 6001
transfer = yes
mailbox = 6001
call-limit = 100
fullname = 6001
registersip = yes
callgroup = 1
context = default
cid_number = 6001
hasvoicemail = yes
vmsecret = 
email =
threewaycalling = yes
hasdirectory = yes
callwaiting = no
hasmanager = no
hasagent = no
hassip = yes
hasiax = no
secret = 6001
nat = no
canreinvite = no
dtmfmode = rfc2833
insecure = no
pickupgroup = 1
autoprov = no
label =
macaddress =
linenumber = 1
disallow = all
allow = ulaw,gsm
;host=dynamic

extensions.conf
==
exten => 6001,1,Dial(SIP/6001,20)
exten => 6001,2,Voicemail(6001)
exten => 6001,102,Voicemail(6001)
exten => 6001,103,Hangup


Does ekiga register correctly ? appears so, as you state echo test works
from the ekiga client. that says the extensions.conf may be the issue
when routing an inbound call to dave.

I seem to recall that ekiga needs the correct USER as well as ACCOUNT
NAME and password.

attach to asterisk server with:

asterisk -rvvv

and watch the debug as ekiga registers and calls, or is called.


On 12/20/2010 04:32 PM, David Woodfall wrote:
> Hi, I have been following the docs for setting up ekiga with asterisk
> and can't seem to get it to work.
> 
> I have asterisk running already and it works fine with linphone, but
> for some reason if I try to dial with ekiga I always get Remote user is
> busy.
> 
> sip.conf:
> 
>  [dave]
>  type=friend
>  secret=xxx
>  qualify=yes
>  nat=no
>  host=dynamic
>  canreinvite=no
>  context=phones
>  defaultuser=dave
> 
> I've tried changing these settings but nothing seems to work. The echo
> test does work though.
> 
> extension.conf:
> 
>  exten => dave,1,Verbose(1,Extension dave)
>  exten => dave,n,Dial(SIP/dave,15)
>  exten => dave,n,Playback(vm-nobodyavail)
>  exten => dave,n,Voicemail(d...@dave)
>  exten => dave,n,Playback(vm-goodbye)
>  exten => dave,n,Hangup()
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 3.3.0 [UNSTABLE] available

2010-12-21 Thread Eugen Dedu

On 21/12/10 21:58, Gerhard Stengel wrote:

Hi,

plenty of things to do, but unfortunately I don't have sufficient skills, too 
:-(
But I'll give it a try if I can make ekiga use a local old libavcodec and 
libx264.
If I remember correctly, ffmpeg 0.5.3 and libx264.so.67 should be the right 
versions to use?


I do not remember well, but there are two bug reports (one for H263, and 
one for H264) in bugzilla about that.  If you find out correct versions 
which work for ekiga, please inform us.



Am Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2010, 21:36:48 schrieb Eugen Dedu:

On 21/12/10 17:25, Gerhard Stengel wrote:

Hi,

interesting... will h263 and h263+ codecs work again?


If I had sufficient programing skills and time, I would fix:
- H263/H263+
- H264
- presence on unstable
- allow more people to connect with ekiga (e.g. Symmetric NAT)
- fix all critical bugs in bugzilla
- fix all major bugs in bugzilla
- make ekiga work on MacOS too
- various (minor) bugs
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Re: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 3.3.0 [UNSTABLE] available

2010-12-21 Thread Gerhard Stengel
Hi,

plenty of things to do, but unfortunately I don't have sufficient skills, too 
:-(
But I'll give it a try if I can make ekiga use a local old libavcodec and 
libx264.
If I remember correctly, ffmpeg 0.5.3 and libx264.so.67 should be the right 
versions to use?

regards

Gerhard

Am Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2010, 21:36:48 schrieb Eugen Dedu:
> On 21/12/10 17:25, Gerhard Stengel wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > interesting... will h263 and h263+ codecs work again?
> 
> If I had sufficient programing skills and time, I would fix:
> - H263/H263+
> - H264
> - presence on unstable
> - allow more people to connect with ekiga (e.g. Symmetric NAT)
> - fix all critical bugs in bugzilla
> - fix all major bugs in bugzilla
> - make ekiga work on MacOS too
> - various (minor) bugs
> ...
> 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 3.3.0 [UNSTABLE] available

2010-12-21 Thread Eugen Dedu

On 21/12/10 17:25, Gerhard Stengel wrote:

Hi,

interesting... will h263 and h263+ codecs work again?


If I had sufficient programing skills and time, I would fix:
- H263/H263+
- H264
- presence on unstable
- allow more people to connect with ekiga (e.g. Symmetric NAT)
- fix all critical bugs in bugzilla
- fix all major bugs in bugzilla
- make ekiga work on MacOS too
- various (minor) bugs
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Re: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 3.3.0 [UNSTABLE] available

2010-12-21 Thread Gerhard Stengel
Hi,

interesting... will h263 and h263+ codecs work again?

regards

Gerhard

Am Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2010, 16:54:19 schrieb Eugen Dedu:
> This is the first unstable release of the upcoming 3.4 version of Ekiga. 
>   It is a major release, bringing several changes (bugs and protocol 
> fixes, but not so much features and no security fix) since almost two 
> years ago.  It is not a replacement of the last stable release (3.2.7), 
> but should be used by people having problems with the stable release 
> (e.g. a pulse plugin plugin is included in this release) and by people 
> who want to help ekiga.
> 
> While it has not received much testing, it works on developers machines, 
> and the only known major regression (which should hopefully be fixed in 
> the next unstable release) compared to the last stable release is that 
> presence does not work reliably.  Three additional regressions are known:
> - the fix "Use NAT ports instead of local ports for RTP, fixing many
> connection issues", added in the last stable release, is not included,
> - the fix for 16bpp mode, added in the last stable release, is not 
> included either
> - and on Windows ekiga sometimes crashes on exit.
> 
> 
> * What is it ?
> ==
> 
> Ekiga is a free Voice over IP softphone allowing you to do free calls
> over the Internet.
> 
> Ekiga is the first Open Source application to support both H.323 and
> SIP, as well as audio and video. Ekiga was formerly known as
> GnomeMeeting.
> 
> More information can be found at http://www.ekiga.org
> 
> 
> * Where to get it ?
> ===
> 
> Ekiga is available at:
> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ekiga/3.3/
> 
> Required librairies can be found at:
> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/opal/3.8/
> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ptlib/2.8/
> 
> 
> * What's changed ?
> ==
> 
> ** Distributor-specific changes
> - New pulse audio plugin (in ptlib)
> - ekiga is now split between one executable, one library and two
>plugins (evolution and ldap).  This means that evolution-data-server
>for ex. can be used during building, but is not mandatory upon
>execution: if it exists, ekiga will use it, if not it just does not
>use it :o)  As a consequence, this allows to install ekiga without
>e-d-s and its many dependencies (see
>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=520830 for ex.)
> - Some dependencies versions have been raised, configure checks them
> - Depend on boost instead of sigc++
> - Update to the new libnotify 0.7.0 library
> - By default, use quiet compilation; use make VERBOSE=1 for ptlib and
>opal to get "noisy" command lines during compilation, and make V=1
>for ekiga
> ** User-visible changes
> - New pulse audio plugin (in ptlib)
> - Various SIP/H.323 fixes
> - When a registrar refuses several Contact-s during registration,
>automatically retry registration with only one Contact (previous
>"%limit" workaround)
> - Fix "Ekiga crashes when restart a holding call established by H.323"
> - Fix "Cseq value is empty, malformed packet as per Wireshark"
> - Fix "Text on first page of assistant is sometimes not shown"
> - Fix DTMF signaling
> - Fix pre-fill account name and password in assistant
> - Fix dialog info presence handling
> - Add a TOS field config option
> - Update the "Contact" menu when selecting a heap or a group
> - Distribute a 24x24 icon too
> - Always honour show_hidden setting for main window
> - Adjust defaults (show offline users, use picture-in-picture)
> ** Developer-specific changes
> - Many code cleanups
> - Various deprecated code replaced with current equivalents
> ** Windows port changes
> - Fix video position with gtk >=2.20
> - Update dependency versions
> - Add Russian translation of installer
> ** Translation updates
> - Updated translations: as, ast, bg, bn, bn_IN, ca, c...@valencia, cs,
>da, de, el, en_GB, eo, es, et, eu, fr, gl, gu, he, hi, hu, it, kn,
>ko, lt, lv, ja, ml, nb, nn, or, pa, pl, pt, pt_BR, ro, ru, sl, sk,
>sr, s...@latin, sv, ta, th, uk, zh_CN, zh-HK, ZH-TW
> - New translations: e...@shaw, kk, ug
> - Updated help translations: de, el, sl, uk
> - New help translations: zh_CN
> 
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[Ekiga-list] Ekiga + Asterisk

2010-12-21 Thread David Woodfall

Hi, I have been following the docs for setting up ekiga with asterisk
and can't seem to get it to work.

I have asterisk running already and it works fine with linphone, but
for some reason if I try to dial with ekiga I always get Remote user 
is busy.


sip.conf:

 [dave]
 type=friend
 secret=xxx
 qualify=yes
 nat=no
 host=dynamic
 canreinvite=no
 context=phones
 defaultuser=dave

I've tried changing these settings but nothing seems to work. The echo 
test does work though.


extension.conf:

 exten => dave,1,Verbose(1,Extension dave)
 exten => dave,n,Dial(SIP/dave,15)
 exten => dave,n,Playback(vm-nobodyavail)
 exten => dave,n,Voicemail(d...@dave)
 exten => dave,n,Playback(vm-goodbye)
 exten => dave,n,Hangup()

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[Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 3.3.0 [UNSTABLE] available

2010-12-21 Thread Eugen Dedu
This is the first unstable release of the upcoming 3.4 version of Ekiga. 
 It is a major release, bringing several changes (bugs and protocol 
fixes, but not so much features and no security fix) since almost two 
years ago.  It is not a replacement of the last stable release (3.2.7), 
but should be used by people having problems with the stable release 
(e.g. a pulse plugin plugin is included in this release) and by people 
who want to help ekiga.


While it has not received much testing, it works on developers machines, 
and the only known major regression (which should hopefully be fixed in 
the next unstable release) compared to the last stable release is that 
presence does not work reliably.  Three additional regressions are known:

- the fix "Use NAT ports instead of local ports for RTP, fixing many
connection issues", added in the last stable release, is not included,
- the fix for 16bpp mode, added in the last stable release, is not 
included either

- and on Windows ekiga sometimes crashes on exit.


* What is it ?
==

Ekiga is a free Voice over IP softphone allowing you to do free calls
over the Internet.

Ekiga is the first Open Source application to support both H.323 and
SIP, as well as audio and video. Ekiga was formerly known as
GnomeMeeting.

More information can be found at http://www.ekiga.org


* Where to get it ?
===

Ekiga is available at:
ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ekiga/3.3/

Required librairies can be found at:
ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/opal/3.8/
ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ptlib/2.8/


* What's changed ?
==

** Distributor-specific changes
- New pulse audio plugin (in ptlib)
- ekiga is now split between one executable, one library and two
  plugins (evolution and ldap).  This means that evolution-data-server
  for ex. can be used during building, but is not mandatory upon
  execution: if it exists, ekiga will use it, if not it just does not
  use it :o)  As a consequence, this allows to install ekiga without
  e-d-s and its many dependencies (see
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=520830 for ex.)
- Some dependencies versions have been raised, configure checks them
- Depend on boost instead of sigc++
- Update to the new libnotify 0.7.0 library
- By default, use quiet compilation; use make VERBOSE=1 for ptlib and
  opal to get "noisy" command lines during compilation, and make V=1
  for ekiga
** User-visible changes
- New pulse audio plugin (in ptlib)
- Various SIP/H.323 fixes
- When a registrar refuses several Contact-s during registration,
  automatically retry registration with only one Contact (previous
  "%limit" workaround)
- Fix "Ekiga crashes when restart a holding call established by H.323"
- Fix "Cseq value is empty, malformed packet as per Wireshark"
- Fix "Text on first page of assistant is sometimes not shown"
- Fix DTMF signaling
- Fix pre-fill account name and password in assistant
- Fix dialog info presence handling
- Add a TOS field config option
- Update the "Contact" menu when selecting a heap or a group
- Distribute a 24x24 icon too
- Always honour show_hidden setting for main window
- Adjust defaults (show offline users, use picture-in-picture)
** Developer-specific changes
- Many code cleanups
- Various deprecated code replaced with current equivalents
** Windows port changes
- Fix video position with gtk >=2.20
- Update dependency versions
- Add Russian translation of installer
** Translation updates
- Updated translations: as, ast, bg, bn, bn_IN, ca, c...@valencia, cs,
  da, de, el, en_GB, eo, es, et, eu, fr, gl, gu, he, hi, hu, it, kn,
  ko, lt, lv, ja, ml, nb, nn, or, pa, pl, pt, pt_BR, ro, ru, sl, sk,
  sr, s...@latin, sv, ta, th, uk, zh_CN, zh-HK, ZH-TW
- New translations: e...@shaw, kk, ug
- Updated help translations: de, el, sl, uk
- New help translations: zh_CN

On behalf of Ekiga/ptlib/opal teams,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Echo Test does not produce any sound

2010-12-21 Thread stara posta

Dear Dave,
after opening up ports 5000 to 35000
is working
I can here the female voice in Echo Test and, 
I can here the female voice in Conference Room, 
thank you
the reason for the "crying queek" is that i had a .asoundrc in my home 
directory. I deleted and is now working fine.
now I only need to know someone in Ekiga to talk to as all the users are always 
busy and I am never able of starting a call.
thank you for your advice.
I will write the SOLVED tag in the bug.
Ig

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Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:07:28 +0100
Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Echo Test does not produce any sound








Dear Dave,
If I open up ports 5000 to 35000, 
I can here the female voice in Echo Test and, but after a "crying queek" is 
playing until I stop the called.
I can here the female voice in Conference Room, after there is only silence.

Do you have any ideas, do you need my output.txt again?
I did it anyway and I have found this:
packetsSent   = 2333
octetsSent= 373280
averageSendTime   = 20
maximumSendTime   = 20
minimumSendTime   = 20
packetsReceived   = 2330
do you want me to send you the whole file?
Ig
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From: davekoelme...@me.com
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 01:51:43 +
Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Echo Test does not produce any sound



On 20 Dec, 2010,at 11:17 AM, stara posta  wrote:


However Echo test or Conference Room are not.

Tried this:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/382281
Dear Yannick,
when I start EKIGA and try the Echo test or the Conference Room I cannot here 
anything at all, however I can see that the capture tab is moving when I am 
speaking at the mic. 

I have:
on my ADSL router 
- enable in NAT port forwarding (ports 5000-5100) 

If you open up ports 5000 to 35000, does that change anything?

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Echo Test does not produce any sound

2010-12-21 Thread stara posta

Dear Dave,
If I open up ports 5000 to 35000, 
I can here the female voice in Echo Test and, but after a "crying queek" is 
playing until I stop the called.
I can here the female voice in Conference Room, after there is only silence.

Do you have any ideas, do you need my output.txt again?
I did it anyway and I have found this:
packetsSent   = 2333
octetsSent= 373280
averageSendTime   = 20
maximumSendTime   = 20
minimumSendTime   = 20
packetsReceived   = 2330
do you want me to send you the whole file?
Ig
To: ekiga-list@gnome.org
From: davekoelme...@me.com
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 01:51:43 +
Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Echo Test does not produce any sound



On 20 Dec, 2010,at 11:17 AM, stara posta  wrote:


However Echo test or Conference Room are not.

Tried this:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/382281
Dear Yannick,
when I start EKIGA and try the Echo test or the Conference Room I cannot here 
anything at all, however I can see that the capture tab is moving when I am 
speaking at the mic. 

I have:
on my ADSL router 
- enable in NAT port forwarding (ports 5000-5100) 

If you open up ports 5000 to 35000, does that change anything?

Cheers,
Dave


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