[Ekiga-list] Visual feedback when doing ekiga -c calls
As of now, if a running ekiga instance makes a call started through ekiga -c # there is no visual feedback at all. Somehow, when I use this, it creates a little uneasy feeling (despite the obvious audio feedback). Also, if I lose connection to my account (and thus can't receive or place calls), there is still the same green spot in the tray... Thinking about it, from a user perspective there is really four states: - No dialtone i.e., no registered account. - Idle, ready... - Connecting - Connected I think it would make sense to reflect all these states in the tray icon. Nothing like Skype, which throws up it's main window when a call is initiated - it just irritating when you work in another application. Maybe just change colour on the green spoot in the tray. Just to illustrate what I have in mind: - No dialtone: Red spot, tooltip No account registered - Idle: Green spot, tooltip Diamondcard account registered or Two accounts registered - Connecting: yellow spot, tooltip Connecting to ...@sip.provider.com - Connected: as today, tooltip Connected to 111...@sip.provider.com Or? --alec ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Visual feedback when doing ekiga -c calls
Le mercredi 04 février 2009 à 13:27 +0100, Alec Leamas a écrit : As of now, if a running ekiga instance makes a call started through ekiga -c # there is no visual feedback at all. Somehow, when I use this, it creates a little uneasy feeling (despite the obvious audio feedback). Also, if I lose connection to my account (and thus can't receive or place calls), there is still the same green spot in the tray... Thinking about it, from a user perspective there is really four states: - No dialtone i.e., no registered account. - Idle, ready... - Connecting - Connected I think it would make sense to reflect all these states in the tray icon. Nothing like Skype, which throws up it's main window when a call is initiated - it just irritating when you work in another application. Maybe just change colour on the green spoot in the tray. Just to illustrate what I have in mind: - No dialtone: Red spot, tooltip No account registered - Idle: Green spot, tooltip Diamondcard account registered or Two accounts registered - Connecting: yellow spot, tooltip Connecting to 111 sip provider com - Connected: as today, tooltip Connected to 11 sip provider com Or? There is maybe a place for that in the main GUI rather than in the systray (the systray reflect your status already, mixing both status and connectivity will be overkill). I'm thinking about the quality meter at the bottom. It is always visible and except when you're in a call, it is pretty useless. No dialtone, idle and connecting can fill this useless, while connected would be where the quality info will be shown. Regards, Am I missing something? When initiating a call, does the systray icon reflect that we are trying to connect i. e., is there any visual feedback at all when doing a ekiga -c #? As I see it, a call attempt which is not connected is more os less invisible for the user(?). If I lose my account connection, is there any feedback then? Personally, I feel this is more important. I autostart ekiga, which makes sense, if you are logged in you want to be available. But as of now, I really have to check (by opening main window) now and then if the line is OK. Is a green light representing a broken phone reasonable? Bottom line: user perspective really is really four states, but the current systray icon only reflects two: Connected or not. To use the main window is better than nothing. But to have to open it just to check if there is a connection is not that good. And, as I said, the ekiga -c mechanism is most likely invoked when you work in some other application, and to show the main window then (like Skype) is just little irritating (?) Reading what I've written it feels a little sharp. Hope you don't mind, English is not my native language, the nuances are not lost... I want to be friendly, but writes like God knows what. Have mercy with me :-) --alec ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Visual feedback when doing ekiga -c calls
Le mercredi 04 février 2009 à 15:08 +0100, Alec Leamas a écrit : Yes, I'm missing something: the called state, waiting to pick up the phone. Embarrasing. But not a problem, in this case there is a powerful visual representation :-) What you missed is this: you can turn the green tray icon to red or orange using the main GUI. This is called presence. Green=on line orange=busy red=do not disturb ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Visual feedback when doing ekiga -c calls
yannick wrote: Le mercredi 04 février 2009 à 15:08 +0100, Alec Leamas a écrit : Yes, I'm missing something: the called state, waiting to pick up the phone. Embarrasing. But not a problem, in this case there is a powerful visual representation :-) What you missed is this: you can turn the green tray icon to red or orange using the main GUI. This is called presence. Green=on line orange=busy red=do not disturb Ah, I'm on Fedora. And after following the presence discussion for Fedora I've put it aside. I get your point. But my point(s) are still valid: there is a need to somehow give some visual feedback when ekiga is making a call initiated by other means than the main window. And there is also a need to communicate the possible fact that we are not available at all when all accounts are down. With this said, the green/red idea was obviously not that great...maybe opening the main window is what's left. Other sip-phones does it, it can't be that bad... ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Visual feedback when doing ekiga -c calls
Le mercredi 04 février 2009 à 13:27 +0100, Alec Leamas a écrit : As of now, if a running ekiga instance makes a call started through ekiga -c # there is no visual feedback at all. Somehow, when I use this, it creates a little uneasy feeling (despite the obvious audio feedback). Also, if I lose connection to my account (and thus can't receive or place calls), there is still the same green spot in the tray... Thinking about it, from a user perspective there is really four states: - No dialtone i.e., no registered account. - Idle, ready... - Connecting - Connected I think it would make sense to reflect all these states in the tray icon. Nothing like Skype, which throws up it's main window when a call is initiated - it just irritating when you work in another application. Maybe just change colour on the green spoot in the tray. Just to illustrate what I have in mind: - No dialtone: Red spot, tooltip No account registered - Idle: Green spot, tooltip Diamondcard account registered or Two accounts registered - Connecting: yellow spot, tooltip Connecting to ...@sip.provider.com - Connected: as today, tooltip Connected to 111...@sip.provider.com Or? There is maybe a place for that in the main GUI rather than in the systray (the systray reflect your status already, mixing both status and connectivity will be overkill). I'm thinking about the quality meter at the bottom. It is always visible and except when you're in a call, it is pretty useless. No dialtone, idle and connecting can fill this useless, while connected would be where the quality info will be shown. Regards, Yannick ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
