Re: [Ekiga-list] direct IP to IP SIP call without SIP registrar, not working in 3.x

2009-02-27 Thread Patrick Lee
Actually there are some Tandberg endpoints in my LAN.
Tandberg MXP 1700 - H323 and IP supported
Tandberg E20  -  SIP only

In my network there is no NAT, actually some equipments are in the
same subnet, i.e. no routing involved.

With Ekiga 2.x, SIP connection with both Tandberg endpoints are ok,
but the video codec supported is only H.261.
With Ekiga 3.x, neither H323 nor SIP call was gone through.

In my Tandberg box, no SIP service IP is configured.  I was able to
make a SIP from Ekiga 2.x to Tandberg.
When the call is set up.  Tandberg showed the caller SIP address is
a...@w.x.y.z, where abc is my computer hostname and w.x.y.z is caller's
IP.

But call made from Tandberg to ekiga failed.  Interesting..

I did the test particularly on SIP.  For H.323 I can use Netmeeting,
which is pretty stable.  And all I have to find out whether two SIP
clients can talk with each other without registering to SIP server.
Otherwise I need a separate SIP server module running in my LAN.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] direct IP to IP SIP call without SIP registrar, not working in 3.x

2009-02-27 Thread yannick
Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 16:24 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 15:57 +0100, yannick a écrit :
> > Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 08:56 -0400, Jim Diamond a écrit :
> > > >> I know SIP registration is a proper SIP operation.  But I love
> > > ekiga
> > > >> as it allows pt-to-pt call without setting up a SIP server.  But
> > > not
> > > >> true for ver 3.x.  Any solution ?
> > 
> > I reshaped our wiki page about NATs, 
> > 
> > did you read this troubleshooting?
> > 
> > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router#I_have_2_Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_using_STUN:_they_can.27t_communicate
> > 
> > And this configuration setup if you're sure to only use Ekiga
> > exclusively inside the LAN:
> > 
> > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router#How_to_disable_STUN_with_Ekiga_3.3F
> > 
> > @Damien,
> > What is the command line to enable STUN back using Ekiga 3.x?
> 
> gconftool-2 -s /apps/ekiga/general/nat/stun_server stun.ekiga.net
> --type=string
> 
> This is only needed in 3.0 because in 3.20, there is a new option in the
> preferences window.

Ok, thx.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] direct IP to IP SIP call without SIP registrar, not working in 3.x

2009-02-27 Thread Damien Sandras
Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 15:57 +0100, yannick a écrit :
> Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 08:56 -0400, Jim Diamond a écrit :
> > >> I know SIP registration is a proper SIP operation.  But I love
> > ekiga
> > >> as it allows pt-to-pt call without setting up a SIP server.  But
> > not
> > >> true for ver 3.x.  Any solution ?
> 
> I reshaped our wiki page about NATs, 
> 
> did you read this troubleshooting?
> 
> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router#I_have_2_Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_using_STUN:_they_can.27t_communicate
> 
> And this configuration setup if you're sure to only use Ekiga
> exclusively inside the LAN:
> 
> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router#How_to_disable_STUN_with_Ekiga_3.3F
> 
> @Damien,
> What is the command line to enable STUN back using Ekiga 3.x?

gconftool-2 -s /apps/ekiga/general/nat/stun_server stun.ekiga.net
--type=string

This is only needed in 3.0 because in 3.20, there is a new option in the
preferences window.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] direct IP to IP SIP call without SIP registrar, not working in 3.x

2009-02-27 Thread yannick
Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 08:56 -0400, Jim Diamond a écrit :
> >> I know SIP registration is a proper SIP operation.  But I love
> ekiga
> >> as it allows pt-to-pt call without setting up a SIP server.  But
> not
> >> true for ver 3.x.  Any solution ?

I reshaped our wiki page about NATs, 

did you read this troubleshooting?

http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router#I_have_2_Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_using_STUN:_they_can.27t_communicate

And this configuration setup if you're sure to only use Ekiga
exclusively inside the LAN:

http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router#How_to_disable_STUN_with_Ekiga_3.3F

@Damien,
What is the command line to enable STUN back using Ekiga 3.x?

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Re: [Ekiga-list] direct IP to IP SIP call without SIP registrar, not working in 3.x

2009-02-27 Thread Jim Diamond
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 07:37 (-), Dave Higton wrote:

> Patrick Lee wrote:

>> Not sure any one has asked this question before.

>> I was able to make call without registering any SIP registrar in Ekiga
>> ver 2.x.  No need to create SIP account.
>> Just type "sip:192.168.1.34"  (the remote IP address) and the 
>> call was setup.
>> And the remote client could be x-lite.

>> But NOT with ver 3.x, the same syntax gave me no response.  It seems
>> like I have to create a SIP account first.

>> My environment is a complete isolated network so I simply can't
>> register in ekiga.net for SIP account.
>> And there is some other SIP clients so I have to stick with 
>> SIP protocol.

>> I know SIP registration is a proper SIP operation.  But I love ekiga
>> as it allows pt-to-pt call without setting up a SIP server.  But not
>> true for ver 3.x.  Any solution ?

> It may be worth mentioning that I have the same situation (no SIP
> access to the outside world, therefore Ekiga cannot possibly
> register to anything), the same requirement to do VoIP across our
> own LAN (only), and the same problem.

Dave,

Have you tried connecting to
h323:192.168.1.34
(or IP as appropriate)?  It works for me both on a LAN and over a wan
with 3.0.[12] and 3.1.0.  Regrettably, I have other show-stopper
problems, but that's another thread.

Patrick, you say you have other SIP clients, but will the h323: thing
work for you in your ekiga-to-ekiga work?

Jim
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Re: [Ekiga-list] direct IP to IP SIP call without SIP registrar, not working in 3.x

2009-02-27 Thread Patrick Lee
I am on Windows platform, and I found similar problem in h.323 as
well.  Look like something wrong with the windows executable.  But ver
2.x works fine on my windows box.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:12 PM, chaitanya mehandru
 wrote:
> Just for your info, I have been using ekiga 3.0.2 on Ubuntu hardy and I can
> connect using - sip:a...@w.x.y.z.
> I hear busy tone,connecting tone & ringing tone.
>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Patrick Lee 
> wrote:
>>
>> are you suggesting "sip:hostn...@dest_ip"
>> where "hostname" can be anything and "dest_IP" is the remote endpoint
>> IP address ?
>>
>> I tried "sip:a...@192.168.1.34", it returned nothing, no connecting
>> tone nor busying tone
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Re: [Ekiga-list] direct IP to IP SIP call without SIP registrar, not working in 3.x

2009-02-27 Thread chaitanya mehandru
Just for your info, I have been using ekiga 3.0.2 on Ubuntu hardy and I can
connect using - sip:a...@w.x.y.z. I hear busy tone,connecting tone & ringing
tone.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Patrick Lee wrote:

> are you suggesting "sip:hostn...@dest_ip"
> where "hostname" can be anything and "dest_IP" is the remote endpoint
> IP address ?
>
> I tried "sip:a...@192.168.1.34 ", it returned
> nothing, no connecting
> tone nor busying tone
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Re: [Ekiga-list] direct IP to IP SIP call without SIP registrar, not working in 3.x

2009-02-27 Thread Patrick Lee
are you suggesting "sip:hostn...@dest_ip"
where "hostname" can be anything and "dest_IP" is the remote endpoint
IP address ?

I tried "sip:a...@192.168.1.34", it returned nothing, no connecting
tone nor busying tone
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Re: [Ekiga-list] direct IP to IP SIP call without SIP registrar, not working in 3.x

2009-02-27 Thread michel memeteau
Did you both tried sip:anyth...@ip ?

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Dave Higton  wrote:

> Patrick Lee wrote:
>
> > Not sure any one has asked this question before.
> >
> > I was able to make call without registering any SIP registrar in Ekiga
> > ver 2.x.  No need to create SIP account.
> > Just type "sip:192.168.1.34"  (the remote IP address) and the
> > call was setup.
> > And the remote client could be x-lite.
> >
> > But NOT with ver 3.x, the same syntax gave me no response.  It seems
> > like I have to create a SIP account first.
> >
> > My environment is a complete isolated network so I simply can't
> > register in ekiga.net for SIP account.
> > And there is some other SIP clients so I have to stick with
> > SIP protocol.
> >
> > I know SIP registration is a proper SIP operation.  But I love ekiga
> > as it allows pt-to-pt call without setting up a SIP server.  But not
> > true for ver 3.x.  Any solution ?
>
> It may be worth mentioning that I have the same situation (no SIP
> access to the outside world, therefore Ekiga cannot possibly
> register to anything), the same requirement to do VoIP across our
> own LAN (only), and the same problem.
>
> Dave
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Re: [Ekiga-list] direct IP to IP SIP call without SIP registrar, not working in 3.x

2009-02-26 Thread Dave Higton
Patrick Lee wrote:

> Not sure any one has asked this question before.
> 
> I was able to make call without registering any SIP registrar in Ekiga
> ver 2.x.  No need to create SIP account.
> Just type "sip:192.168.1.34"  (the remote IP address) and the 
> call was setup.
> And the remote client could be x-lite.
> 
> But NOT with ver 3.x, the same syntax gave me no response.  It seems
> like I have to create a SIP account first.
> 
> My environment is a complete isolated network so I simply can't
> register in ekiga.net for SIP account.
> And there is some other SIP clients so I have to stick with 
> SIP protocol.
> 
> I know SIP registration is a proper SIP operation.  But I love ekiga
> as it allows pt-to-pt call without setting up a SIP server.  But not
> true for ver 3.x.  Any solution ?

It may be worth mentioning that I have the same situation (no SIP
access to the outside world, therefore Ekiga cannot possibly
register to anything), the same requirement to do VoIP across our
own LAN (only), and the same problem.

Dave


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[Ekiga-list] direct IP to IP SIP call without SIP registrar, not working in 3.x

2009-02-26 Thread Patrick Lee
Not sure any one has asked this question before.

I was able to make call without registering any SIP registrar in Ekiga
ver 2.x.  No need to create SIP account.
Just type "sip:192.168.1.34"  (the remote IP address) and the call was setup.
And the remote client could be x-lite.

But NOT with ver 3.x, the same syntax gave me no response.  It seems
like I have to create a SIP account first.

My environment is a complete isolated network so I simply can't
register in ekiga.net for SIP account.
And there is some other SIP clients so I have to stick with SIP protocol.

I know SIP registration is a proper SIP operation.  But I love ekiga
as it allows pt-to-pt call without setting up a SIP server.  But not
true for ver 3.x.  Any solution ?

Patrick
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