Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:35:52 From: Eugen Dedu eugen.d...@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today On 17/02/13 06:31, Bret Busby wrote: Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above as being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x amd64, on an Intel I3 CPU. I suggest you to install ekiga frome experimental (http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ekiga.html), if you know how to do that, or otherwise wait for 1-2 months until it appears in unstable. -- Eugen Hello. This probably appears long-winded, but, please read all of it, to understand it. Greg and I today (23 February) had multiple unsuccessful attempts to try to connect using Ekiga. All kinds of things were going wrong, and, for all of the call attempts, whilst (mostly) calls were showing as being connected, we could not either hear or see each other, and, for my part, in the video window, all I would see, would be a still image of me. The only thing that we could get working, was the Chat window, but, that often showed me as offline or unavailable, when I was online and available. Greg, from what I understand, started collecting images and making a record of what was occurring. However, we are both running Ekiga 3.2.x for Linux. The latest available version, is apparently, 4.0.1. Thw web page at http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=allsearchon=nameskeywords=ekiga (showing results for searchin for Ekiga packages for all versions of Debian, shows Exact hits Package ekiga squeeze (stable) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 3.2.7-2: amd64 armel i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc wheezy (testing) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 3.2.7-5+b1: amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc sid (unstable) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 3.2.7-5+b1: alpha amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc 3.2.7-5 [debports]: sh4 sparc64 3.2.7-2+b1: hppa 2.0.11-2 [debports]: m68k experimental (rc-buggy) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 4.0.0-1: amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc At http://ekiga.org/ is Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available Submitted by Yannick Defais on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 01:01 Hello everyone, This is the first update of the 4.0.0 stable release. It deals exclusively with bug fixing. The most important change is fixing ALL known crashes and freezes, especially the long-standing freeze on quit on Windows. Add to this making H.323 with gatekeeper functional again, two registration fixes, and numerous other fixes here and there. There is also a security fix. We encourage everyone to upgrade to this latest greatest version of ekiga. The next release will be 4.0.2 or 4.2.0, targetted mainly at replacing obsolete technologies and fixing remaining registration and communication issues. After 4.2.0, we will switch to using v12 of ptlib/opal underlying libraries and will be able to provide the much-awaited communication encryption and IPv6 support. At http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Linux is information showing that the latest version available for most Linux stable versions, is 3.2.7, and, for the latest Ubuntu LTS version (10.04) is 3.2.6. The problems that Greg and I have been encountering, have probably been mostly resolved by the 4.0.0.1 version. On the web page at http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ekiga which relates to the version of Ekiga that is available for Debian stable (Debian Linux v6.0.x, that I am running, is shown Package: ekiga (3.2.7-2) and Maintainers: Kilian Krause (QA Page) Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo (QA Page) Eugen Dedu (QA Page) Debian GNOME Maintainers (QA Page, Mail Archive) Josselin Mouette (QA Page) who I assume (but I am not certain of my understanding of this) are the maintainers of the specific version of the package, that is available for the particular version of Debian Linux. So, my question is this; could the package maintainers for the version of Ekiga that is applicable to Debian stable (Debian Linux v6.0.x), please create and make available a Debian package (the applicable .deb file) of the latest stable version of Ekiga, for installation and updating of current installations of the Ekiga 3.2.x package, on the i386 and amd64 architectures? I name those two architectures, as I believe that they are by far the most common architectures, at present. As far as I am aware, Debian pacxkages (the .deb files) can still be installed on Ubuntu (but, I cannot say that for certain, as it is a while since I have used Ubuntu), and, if that is correct
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On 23/02/13 15:56, Bret Busby wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: Greg and I today (23 February) had multiple unsuccessful attempts to try to connect using Ekiga. All kinds of things were going wrong, and, for all of the call attempts, whilst (mostly) calls were showing as being connected, we could not either hear or see each other, and, for my part, in the video window, all I would see, would be a still image of me. The only thing that we could get working, was the Chat window, but, that often showed me as offline or unavailable, when I was online and available. Greg, from what I understand, started collecting images and making a record of what was occurring. However, we are both running Ekiga 3.2.x for Linux. The latest available version, is apparently, 4.0.1. Thw web page at http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=allsearchon=nameskeywords=ekiga (showing results for searchin for Ekiga packages for all versions of Debian, shows Exact hits Package ekiga squeeze (stable) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 3.2.7-2: amd64 armel i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc wheezy (testing) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 3.2.7-5+b1: amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc sid (unstable) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 3.2.7-5+b1: alpha amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc 3.2.7-5 [debports]: sh4 sparc64 3.2.7-2+b1: hppa 2.0.11-2 [debports]: m68k experimental (rc-buggy) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 4.0.0-1: amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc At http://ekiga.org/ is Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available Submitted by Yannick Defais on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 01:01 Hello everyone, This is the first update of the 4.0.0 stable release. It deals exclusively with bug fixing. The most important change is fixing ALL known crashes and freezes, especially the long-standing freeze on quit on Windows. Add to this making H.323 with gatekeeper functional again, two registration fixes, and numerous other fixes here and there. There is also a security fix. We encourage everyone to upgrade to this latest greatest version of ekiga. The next release will be 4.0.2 or 4.2.0, targetted mainly at replacing obsolete technologies and fixing remaining registration and communication issues. After 4.2.0, we will switch to using v12 of ptlib/opal underlying libraries and will be able to provide the much-awaited communication encryption and IPv6 support. At http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Linux is information showing that the latest version available for most Linux stable versions, is 3.2.7, and, for the latest Ubuntu LTS version (10.04) is 3.2.6. That page has some obsolete information. It is not easy to catch up with all distributions. Maybe it is better to simply use http://pkgs.org/download/ekiga. The problems that Greg and I have been encountering, have probably been mostly resolved by the 4.0.0.1 version. I am pretty sure that your problems are fixed with 4.0.0 or better 4.0.1. On the web page at http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ekiga which relates to the version of Ekiga that is available for Debian stable (Debian Linux v6.0.x, that I am running, is shown Package: ekiga (3.2.7-2) and Maintainers: Kilian Krause (QA Page) Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo (QA Page) Eugen Dedu (QA Page) Debian GNOME Maintainers (QA Page, Mail Archive) Josselin Mouette (QA Page) who I assume (but I am not certain of my understanding of this) are the maintainers of the specific version of the package, that is available for the particular version of Debian Linux. So, my question is this; could the package maintainers for the version of Ekiga that is applicable to Debian stable (Debian Linux v6.0.x), please create and make available a Debian package (the applicable .deb file) of the latest stable version of Ekiga, for installation and updating of current installations of the Ekiga 3.2.x package, on the i386 and amd64 architectures? I name those two architectures, as I believe that they are by far the most common architectures, at present. Debian stable itself will not accept a new ekiga package. On the other hand, we (ekiga developers) could indeed create packages for debian stable and make them available on our website. However, this is not how software distribution works, because this would mean that developers of a package must bother with all linux distributions, and we simply do not have time and machines to do this. Our focus is on the program itself, not its packaging for debian, ubuntu, fedora, arch, gentoo, slackware etc. etc. and for architecture x, y, z... As far as I am aware, Debian pacxkages (the .deb files) can still be installed on Ubuntu (but, I cannot say that for certain, as it is a while since I have used Ubuntu), and, if that is correct, that should take
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: On 23/02/13 15:56, Bret Busby wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: Greg and I today (23 February) had multiple unsuccessful attempts to try to connect using Ekiga. All kinds of things were going wrong, and, for all of the call attempts, whilst (mostly) calls were showing as being connected, we could not either hear or see each other, and, for my part, in the video window, all I would see, would be a still image of me. The only thing that we could get working, was the Chat window, but, that often showed me as offline or unavailable, when I was online and available. Greg, from what I understand, started collecting images and making a record of what was occurring. However, we are both running Ekiga 3.2.x for Linux. The latest available version, is apparently, 4.0.1. Thw web page at http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=allsearchon=nameskeywords=ekiga (showing results for searchin for Ekiga packages for all versions of Debian, shows Exact hits Package ekiga squeeze (stable) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 3.2.7-2: amd64 armel i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc wheezy (testing) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 3.2.7-5+b1: amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc sid (unstable) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 3.2.7-5+b1: alpha amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc 3.2.7-5 [debports]: sh4 sparc64 3.2.7-2+b1: hppa 2.0.11-2 [debports]: m68k experimental (rc-buggy) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 4.0.0-1: amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc At http://ekiga.org/ is Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available Submitted by Yannick Defais on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 01:01 Hello everyone, This is the first update of the 4.0.0 stable release. It deals exclusively with bug fixing. The most important change is fixing ALL known crashes and freezes, especially the long-standing freeze on quit on Windows. Add to this making H.323 with gatekeeper functional again, two registration fixes, and numerous other fixes here and there. There is also a security fix. We encourage everyone to upgrade to this latest greatest version of ekiga. The next release will be 4.0.2 or 4.2.0, targetted mainly at replacing obsolete technologies and fixing remaining registration and communication issues. After 4.2.0, we will switch to using v12 of ptlib/opal underlying libraries and will be able to provide the much-awaited communication encryption and IPv6 support. At http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Linux is information showing that the latest version available for most Linux stable versions, is 3.2.7, and, for the latest Ubuntu LTS version (10.04) is 3.2.6. That page has some obsolete information. It is not easy to catch up with all distributions. Maybe it is better to simply use http://pkgs.org/download/ekiga. That web page still has the same versions of Ekiga, for Debian stable and for Ubuntu LTS. It appears that I will have to wait for version 4.0.1 to filter through to a Debian Linux stable version, before I can use Ekiga again, and, before I can use Ekiga for video calls. I note that, for me, in Ekiga, in the View menu, the Remote video option was always greyed out (unable to be selected), in the calls with Greg, that were as successful as they were. I was apparently wrong about Debian sid - that appears, from the version of Ekiga, listed in the web page mentioned in the last paragraph above, of Eugen's message, to be Debian unstable, rather than Debian experimental. I tend to get confused by the names for the Debian versions, which is one of the reasons that I prefer to use the version numbers and the status names (stable, testing, and unstable), rather than the version names (squeezy, wheezy, and sid). Anyway, thank you for your reply. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:35:52 From: Eugen Dedu eugen.d...@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today On 17/02/13 06:31, Bret Busby wrote: Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above as being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x amd64, on an Intel I3 CPU. I suggest you to install ekiga frome experimental (http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ekiga.html), if you know how to do that, or otherwise wait for 1-2 months until it appears in unstable. -- Eugen From the web page specified; http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ekiga.html is versions ... oldstable 2.0.12-1+nmu1 stable 3.2.7-2 testing 3.2.7-5 unstable 3.2.7-5 exp 4.0.0-1 I am running, as stated above; 3.2.7-2 - the version applicable to Debian stable (Debian 6.0.x). In Debian, the experimental version (the version of Debian that is running 4.0.0-1), is known as sid, named after the boy in Toy Story, who was known for breaking things; thus, Debian experimental is regarded as being known to break things. Similarly, any package for Debian experimental, is not regarded as being appropriate to instal on any system that is used for running software for any purpose other than testing software and repeatedly rebuilding the system due to damage done by the software being tested. Or, that is my understanding, anyway. Other people may understand it differently. Perhaps, if Ekiga 4.x is released as a Debian package (.deb file) that can be installed by the Debian package managers, on Debian 6.0.x, it would be used more by users, as it would then be easy to instal, as is the package stored in the Debian Linux 6.0.x repository. One of the things then to ask - are the personal data and configuration settings, stored in the home directory, or, within the ekiga installation directory? If the information is stored in the home directory, then installing a new version of the software, should not eliminate the existing data, but the existing data should be picked up by the new version of the software, upon running it for the first time, after installation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On 22/02/13 19:34, Bret Busby wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:35:52 From: Eugen Dedu eugen.d...@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today On 17/02/13 06:31, Bret Busby wrote: Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above as being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x amd64, on an Intel I3 CPU. I suggest you to install ekiga frome experimental (http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ekiga.html), if you know how to do that, or otherwise wait for 1-2 months until it appears in unstable. -- Eugen From the web page specified; http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ekiga.html is versions ... oldstable 2.0.12-1+nmu1 stable 3.2.7-2 testing 3.2.7-5 unstable 3.2.7-5 exp 4.0.0-1 I am running, as stated above; 3.2.7-2 - the version applicable to Debian stable (Debian 6.0.x). In Debian, the experimental version (the version of Debian that is running 4.0.0-1), is known as sid, named after the boy in Toy Story, who was known for breaking things; thus, Debian experimental is regarded as being known to break things. Similarly, any package for Debian experimental, is not regarded as being appropriate to instal on any system that is used for running software for any purpose other than testing software and repeatedly rebuilding the system due to damage done by the software being tested. Or, that is my understanding, anyway. Other people may understand it differently. Perhaps, if Ekiga 4.x is released as a Debian package (.deb file) that can be installed by the Debian package managers, on Debian 6.0.x, it would be used more by users, as it would then be easy to instal, as is the package stored in the Debian Linux 6.0.x repository. One of the things then to ask - are the personal data and configuration settings, stored in the home directory, or, within the ekiga installation directory? In home directory. If the information is stored in the home directory, then installing a new version of the software, should not eliminate the existing data, but the existing data should be picked up by the new version of the software, upon running it for the first time, after installation. You are right. -- Eugen ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On 16/02/13 04:03, el_gallo_azul wrote: I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. No need. As already said, 3.2 versions are not maintained, and 4.0 versions are much better. 3. I was only able to see video of myself, and he was only able to see video of himself. Were an audio AND a video codec shown on the image or at its bottom? We need the debug output (-d 4) from the 4.0 machine to understand what happens. http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga -- Eugen ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On 17/02/13 00:08, Polaris wrote: I was on the other end of this test. We first assumed that freezing up and loop back video problems were due to bugs in the 4.0 ver of You have not speak about freezing up, but only about video problem. Also, the problem is not loop back, but that the other party video is not shown. -- Eugen ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On 17/02/13 09:20, Bret Busby wrote: Hello. I advise that I did manage to get through to Greg (El Gallo), and made a voice call to him, and sustained the call, without any problems (once I had realised that the problem that I encountered initially, was that I had initially tried with the SIP address being incomplete). In the initial attempt, I had copied and pasted the SIP address from the email mesage, but, in doing that (with my email application being alpine, the replacement for PINE), the SIP address had been truncated at the second underscore, so that the SIP address that had been attempted, was a...@ekiga.net, which did not work. When I retried with the full SIP address, it worked well, for a voicecall. It was a voicecall, as his terminal was a cellphone which was connected via WiFi to his LAN. The sound was clear. Wonderful! -- Eugen ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On 17/02/13 06:31, Bret Busby wrote: Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above as being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x amd64, on an Intel I3 CPU. I suggest you to install ekiga frome experimental (http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ekiga.html), if you know how to do that, or otherwise wait for 1-2 months until it appears in unstable. -- Eugen ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On 17/02/13 19:28, Yannick wrote: Le dimanche 17 février 2013 à 13:31 +0800, Bret Busby a écrit : I have noticed with test calls (that is all that I have been able to make, so far, with both Skype and Ekiga - haven't yet connected up with anyone, family or otherwise, who have made contact with me via Skype or Ekiga), that the Ekiga video of me, is highly pixellated, and is of low resolution, compared with Skype. AFAIK the video codec used in the test call is the worst available i.e. H.261. This explains the low resolution and the big pixels. Practically the test call shows if video works, it does not show how good it can be. In a call with another client supporting better codec (especially H.264) the video is much better. You can force ekiga to negotiate only with the best codec (e.g H.264, or H.263) by deselecting other codecs in preferences, or put the codec you wish in the top of the list. Agreed with all the above. Unfortunately the test call will only accept H.261. Now it works for H263-1998 (all resolutions) and H264 too (low resolution), cf. http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Fun_Numbers. -- Eugen ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013, Bret Busby wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Polaris wrote: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:08:57 From: Polaris pola...@vfemail.net Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today I was on the other end of this test. We first assumed that freezing up and loop back video problems were due to bugs in the 4.0 ver of Ekiga. If the 3.2 ver is considered more buggy than 4.0 than would someone with 4.0 installed like to give me a call so I could test my new camera properly? Thanks, sip:tr...@ekiga.net On 2/15/2013 11:16 PM, Genghis Khan wrote: Hello, On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) el_gallo_azul el_gallo_a...@yahoo.com wrote: I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask? As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues which make Ekiga to freeze. 2. We were able to converse. 3. I was only able to see video of myself, and he was only able to see video of himself. Maybe you did not had the same video codec activated? 4. We had a brief discussion regarding the SIP protocol.Is there more than one SIP protocol? ie. Is it possible that different software uses different protocol/s, or part thereof? For example, I believe Empathy has 'some SIP support'. Do Ekiga and Empathy not talk to each other at all? a. It is possible to use different software that use same protocol. However, there may be an issue of case-problem which would result in clients that intended to be communicating with each other to not communicate. On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:21:27 -0800 Justin Karneges jus...@affinix.com wrote: I think the right answer is that codec names are meant to be compared in a case-sensitive way, and the correct name of the Speex codec is speex and not SPEEX. Psi therefore uses the wrong codec name completely. This also means that it only ever worked at all with other clients (e.g. Empathy, Pidgin) because they were sending the wrong codec name to Psi. http://lists.affinix.com/pipermail/psi-devel-affinix.com/2012-November/thread.html b. It is also possible to use different software that use different protocol via gateway/bridge of 3rd party (i.e. SIP to land-line; Jingle to land-line; SIP - land-line - Skype). There are available gateways from SIP to Jingle and from Jingle to SIP. There is also Asterisk integration with Skype but I think non of them are available for the public since Microsoft took over http://freeswitch.org/node/325. c. In future, I guess, people will make plugins for Ekiga and other SIP clients that correspond with Skype protocol by reverse-engineered code, which is being censored by Microsoft and various of ISPs by blocking BitTorrent traffic of it https://github.com/skypeopensource http://the-user.org/post/skype-reverse-engineered. 5. I chose Ekiga because it is multi-platform (Linux, Microsoft Windows, Apple OSX). This is necessary at the moment because most people I have been using Skype with use computers with Microsoft or Apple OS. In the long term, I think that people should be able to choose any SIP software they like, and they should be able to talk to each other. I think just like you :-) Ekiga is not yet available for MacOS, MacOS testers are needed. Linphone and QuteCom (formerly known as WengoPhone), for example, do work under all three platforms. Greg Flint PO Box 642 Parap NT 0804 Australia Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 sip: el_gallo_a...@ekiga.net sip: 473...@sip.diamondcard.us - VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list I just tried calling the above poster, with my version of Ekiga. I again got User is not available. I think that my SIP address is bret.bu...@ekiga.net . -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 Hello. I advise that I did manage to get through to Greg (El Gallo), and made a voice call to him, and sustained the call, without any problems (once I had realised that the problem that I encountered initially, was that I had initially tried with the SIP address
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
Le dimanche 17 février 2013 à 13:31 +0800, Bret Busby a écrit : I have noticed with test calls (that is all that I have been able to make, so far, with both Skype and Ekiga - haven't yet connected up with anyone, family or otherwise, who have made contact with me via Skype or Ekiga), that the Ekiga video of me, is highly pixellated, and is of low resolution, compared with Skype. AFAIK the video codec used in the test call is the worst available i.e. H.261. This explains the low resolution and the big pixels. Practically the test call shows if video works, it does not show how good it can be. In a call with another client supporting better codec (especially H.264) the video is much better. You can force ekiga to negotiate only with the best codec (e.g H.264, or H.263) by deselecting other codecs in preferences, or put the codec you wish in the top of the list. Unfortunately the test call will only accept H.261. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
I was on the other end of this test. We first assumed that freezing up and loop back video problems were due to bugs in the 4.0 ver of Ekiga. If the 3.2 ver is considered more buggy than 4.0 than would someone with 4.0 installed like to give me a call so I could test my new camera properly? Thanks, sip:tr...@ekiga.net On 2/15/2013 11:16 PM, Genghis Khan wrote: Hello, On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) el_gallo_azul el_gallo_a...@yahoo.com wrote: I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask? As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues which make Ekiga to freeze. 2. We were able to converse. 3. I was only able to see video of myself, and he was only able to see video of himself. Maybe you did not had the same video codec activated? 4. We had a brief discussion regarding the SIP protocol.Is there more than one SIP protocol? ie. Is it possible that different software uses different protocol/s, or part thereof? For example, I believe Empathy has 'some SIP support'. Do Ekiga and Empathy not talk to each other at all? a. It is possible to use different software that use same protocol. However, there may be an issue of case-problem which would result in clients that intended to be communicating with each other to not communicate. On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:21:27 -0800 Justin Karneges jus...@affinix.com wrote: I think the right answer is that codec names are meant to be compared in a case-sensitive way, and the correct name of the Speex codec is speex and not SPEEX. Psi therefore uses the wrong codec name completely. This also means that it only ever worked at all with other clients (e.g. Empathy, Pidgin) because they were sending the wrong codec name to Psi. http://lists.affinix.com/pipermail/psi-devel-affinix.com/2012-November/thread.html b. It is also possible to use different software that use different protocol via gateway/bridge of 3rd party (i.e. SIP to land-line; Jingle to land-line; SIP - land-line - Skype). There are available gateways from SIP to Jingle and from Jingle to SIP. There is also Asterisk integration with Skype but I think non of them are available for the public since Microsoft took over http://freeswitch.org/node/325. c. In future, I guess, people will make plugins for Ekiga and other SIP clients that correspond with Skype protocol by reverse-engineered code, which is being censored by Microsoft and various of ISPs by blocking BitTorrent traffic of it https://github.com/skypeopensource http://the-user.org/post/skype-reverse-engineered. 5. I chose Ekiga because it is multi-platform (Linux, Microsoft Windows, Apple OSX). This is necessary at the moment because most people I have been using Skype with use computers with Microsoft or Apple OS. In the long term, I think that people should be able to choose any SIP software they like, and they should be able to talk to each other. I think just like you :-) Ekiga is not yet available for MacOS, MacOS testers are needed. Linphone and QuteCom (formerly known as WengoPhone), for example, do work under all three platforms. Greg Flint PO Box 642 Parap NT 0804 Australia Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 sip: el_gallo_a...@ekiga.net sip: 473...@sip.diamondcard.us - VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Genghis Khan wrote: Hello, On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) el_gallo_azul el_gallo_a...@yahoo.com wrote: I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask? As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues which make Ekiga to freeze. Hello. I do not know whether this message will get through. I have previously been unable to post to the list, and messages sent to people asking for assistance with the mailing list, have been unacknowledged. I have both Ekiga and Skype installed. The version of Ekiga that is in the Debian 6 (current stable version of Debian Linux) repository, is Ekiga 3.2.7-2. I have noticed with test calls (that is all that I have been able to make, so far, with both Skype and Ekiga - haven't yet connected up with anyone, family or otherwise, who have made contact with me via Skype or Ekiga), that the Ekiga video of me, is highly pixellated, and is of low resolution, compared with Skype. The version of Skype that I have installed, is 2.2.0.35-1, which I believe (but may be wrong) was in the Debian package repository when I installed Debian 6 on this computer. I assume that the existence of Skype in the Debian package repository, is from before when Microsoft took over Skype. I am aware that both Ekiga and Skype are in versions 4.x, not, but installing Skype from the cuirrent version, on Debian amd64, appears to now be too complicated. And, there is a weiord thing on the Skype web site - it shows that Skype is available for Debian, only for Debian 7 multiarch (?) which has not yet been released, and, it takes a bit of digging around on the Skype web site, to find the references to installing Skype on Debian 6. Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above as being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x amd64, on an Intel I3 CPU. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013, Bret Busby wrote: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:31:23 From: Bret Busby b...@busby.net Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Genghis Khan wrote: Hello, On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) el_gallo_azul el_gallo_a...@yahoo.com wrote: I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask? As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues which make Ekiga to freeze. Hello. I do not know whether this message will get through. I have previously been unable to post to the list, and messages sent to people asking for assistance with the mailing list, have been unacknowledged. I have both Ekiga and Skype installed. The version of Ekiga that is in the Debian 6 (current stable version of Debian Linux) repository, is Ekiga 3.2.7-2. I have noticed with test calls (that is all that I have been able to make, so far, with both Skype and Ekiga - haven't yet connected up with anyone, family or otherwise, who have made contact with me via Skype or Ekiga), that the Ekiga video of me, is highly pixellated, and is of low resolution, compared with Skype. The version of Skype that I have installed, is 2.2.0.35-1, which I believe (but may be wrong) was in the Debian package repository when I installed Debian 6 on this computer. I assume that the existence of Skype in the Debian package repository, is from before when Microsoft took over Skype. I am aware that both Ekiga and Skype are in versions 4.x, not, but installing Skype from the cuirrent version, on Debian amd64, appears to now be too complicated. And, there is a weiord thing on the Skype web site - it shows that Skype is available for Debian, only for Debian 7 multiarch (?) which has not yet been released, and, it takes a bit of digging around on the Skype web site, to find the references to installing Skype on Debian 6. Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above as being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x amd64, on an Intel I3 CPU. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list Yes! It got through... :) I have just tried, using my version of Ekiga, to call the poster of the original message in the thread, to find what would happen. I got User is not available. Oh, well... I tried. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Polaris wrote: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:08:57 From: Polaris pola...@vfemail.net Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today I was on the other end of this test. We first assumed that freezing up and loop back video problems were due to bugs in the 4.0 ver of Ekiga. If the 3.2 ver is considered more buggy than 4.0 than would someone with 4.0 installed like to give me a call so I could test my new camera properly? Thanks, sip:tr...@ekiga.net On 2/15/2013 11:16 PM, Genghis Khan wrote: Hello, On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) el_gallo_azul el_gallo_a...@yahoo.com wrote: I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask? As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues which make Ekiga to freeze. 2. We were able to converse. 3. I was only able to see video of myself, and he was only able to see video of himself. Maybe you did not had the same video codec activated? 4. We had a brief discussion regarding the SIP protocol.Is there more than one SIP protocol? ie. Is it possible that different software uses different protocol/s, or part thereof? For example, I believe Empathy has 'some SIP support'. Do Ekiga and Empathy not talk to each other at all? a. It is possible to use different software that use same protocol. However, there may be an issue of case-problem which would result in clients that intended to be communicating with each other to not communicate. On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:21:27 -0800 Justin Karneges jus...@affinix.com wrote: I think the right answer is that codec names are meant to be compared in a case-sensitive way, and the correct name of the Speex codec is speex and not SPEEX. Psi therefore uses the wrong codec name completely. This also means that it only ever worked at all with other clients (e.g. Empathy, Pidgin) because they were sending the wrong codec name to Psi. http://lists.affinix.com/pipermail/psi-devel-affinix.com/2012-November/thread.html b. It is also possible to use different software that use different protocol via gateway/bridge of 3rd party (i.e. SIP to land-line; Jingle to land-line; SIP - land-line - Skype). There are available gateways from SIP to Jingle and from Jingle to SIP. There is also Asterisk integration with Skype but I think non of them are available for the public since Microsoft took over http://freeswitch.org/node/325. c. In future, I guess, people will make plugins for Ekiga and other SIP clients that correspond with Skype protocol by reverse-engineered code, which is being censored by Microsoft and various of ISPs by blocking BitTorrent traffic of it https://github.com/skypeopensource http://the-user.org/post/skype-reverse-engineered. 5. I chose Ekiga because it is multi-platform (Linux, Microsoft Windows, Apple OSX). This is necessary at the moment because most people I have been using Skype with use computers with Microsoft or Apple OS. In the long term, I think that people should be able to choose any SIP software they like, and they should be able to talk to each other. I think just like you :-) Ekiga is not yet available for MacOS, MacOS testers are needed. Linphone and QuteCom (formerly known as WengoPhone), for example, do work under all three platforms. Greg Flint PO Box 642 Parap NT 0804 Australia Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 sip: el_gallo_a...@ekiga.net sip: 473...@sip.diamondcard.us - VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list I just tried calling the above poster, with my version of Ekiga. I again got User is not available. I think that my SIP address is bret.bu...@ekiga.net . -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
