Re: cluster.routing.allocation.enable behavior (sticky shard allocation not working as expected)

2014-07-30 Thread Andrew Davidoff


On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:27:13 PM UTC-4, Ivan Brusic wrote:
>
> Have you changed your gateway settings? 
> http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/modules-gateway.html#recover-after
>
> It still remains a bit of black magic to me. Sometimes it works, sometimes 
> it does not.
>

Ivan,

I have read over that documentation several times and I don't understand 
how it would help me. By which I mean I honestly don't understand how it 
would help me - not that I am unwilling to try it. Those settings read like 
they control when recovery would begin, but my problem isn't that recovery 
is starting when I don't want it to, it's that when I start it (by setting 
shard allocation about to "all") shards that I'd think would just stick 
with the node they were previously on, get assigned to other nodes, then 
ultimately get rebalanced back to the original node.

At this point I am finding that for quick restarts, just doing them with no 
additional prep work allows me to recover in ~30m, vs ~24h. So for now I'm 
just going to do that. Whatever I am doing wrong here just isn't at all 
clear to me.

Thanks for your advice. If I have misunderstood the settings you pointed me 
at and you think you can help me understand, I'd be grateful for more 
information.

Andy



> Cheers,
>
> Ivan
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Davidoff  > wrote:
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>> I guess I'll ask about this once more for now. This happened again today. 
>> I set allocation to new_primaries, restarted a node, set allocation back to 
>> all, and the cluster is assigning across all nodes the shards that were on 
>> the restarted node, and when it's done, which will probably take a day, 
>> it'll likely rebalance by moving them back to the original node. I have to 
>> assume I'm doing something wrong here. Am I?
>>
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Andy
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Re: cluster.routing.allocation.enable behavior (sticky shard allocation not working as expected)

2014-07-28 Thread Andrew Davidoff
I guess I'll ask about this once more for now. This happened again today. I 
set allocation to new_primaries, restarted a node, set allocation back to 
all, and the cluster is assigning across all nodes the shards that were on 
the restarted node, and when it's done, which will probably take a day, 
it'll likely rebalance by moving them back to the original node. I have to 
assume I'm doing something wrong here. Am I?

Thanks for any advice.
Andy

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Re: cluster.routing.allocation.enable behavior (sticky shard allocation not working as expected)

2014-07-07 Thread Andrew Davidoff
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Grégoire Seux  wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> Have you found a solution (or explaination) to your issue ?
> We are using elasticsearch 1.1.1, what about you ?

Hi,

I haven't learned anything new. To be clear about my problem, I am
aware that I must re-enable routing after having disabled it. My issue
is that I expect all the UNASSIGNED shards to go back to the same
node, but some do not, only to get rebalanced back there later. I am
running elasticsearch 1.2.1.

Andy

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cluster.routing.allocation.enable behavior (sticky shard allocation not working as expected)

2014-07-02 Thread Andrew Davidoff
Hi,

I am trying to use cluster.routing.allocation.enable to speed up node 
restarts. As I understand it, if I set cluster.routing.allocation.enable to 
"none", restart a node, then set cluster.routing.allocation.enable to 
"all", the shards that go UNASSIGNED when the node goes down should start 
back up on the same node they were assigned to previously. But in practice 
when I do this, the shards get assigned across the entire cluster when I 
set cluster.routing.allocation.enable back to "all", and then after that, 
some amount of rebalancing happens.

How can I avoid this, and make shards on a restarted node come back on the 
same node?

To be clear, here's exactly the sequence of events:

1) curl -XPUT -s $host:$port/_cluster/settings?pretty=1 -d 
'{"persistent":{"cluster.routing.allocation.enable": "none"}}'
2) service elasticsearch stop on one node of a 3 node cluster 
(discovery.zen.minimum_master_nodes: 2)
3) shards that were assigned to the now stopped node show as UNASSIGNED
4) service elasticsearch start on the same node as in (2)
5) wait a few minutes - shards mentioned in (3) still show as UNASSIGNED, 
each node sees the full cluster (/_cat/nodes)
6) curl -XPUT -s $host:$port/_cluster/settings?pretty=1 -d 
'{"persistent":{"cluster.routing.allocation.enable": "all"}}'
7) UNASSIGNED shards mentioned in (3) begin being assigned across all nodes 
in the cluster
8) After all UNASSIGNED nodes are assigned, some start rebalancing 
(migrating to other nodes)
9) Cluster is happy

The amount of data in this cluster is very large, and this process can take 
close to 24 hours. So I'd like very much to avoid that for routine restarts.

Thanks.
Andy

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