Re: How would you compare ES, Lucene with Enterprise Search ?

2014-08-17 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Hi,

Taller in this context means more documents.

Otis
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On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 6:09:07 PM UTC+2, Shawn Johnson wrote:

 Otis,
 I know this is old, but what do you mean by taller?

 On Friday, May 24, 2013 12:28:17 PM UTC-4, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:

 Hi,

 Short answer: I don't know.
 Medium answer: I'm sure each vendor would claim superiority or, if losing 
 in perf, would bring up functionality their tool has that others do not
 True answer: you would really have to test it yourself.  There are a 
 million ways to do comparative benchmarks and lots of different use cases, 
 that it's impossible to test them all and provide truthful reports.

 What I can say though is that OSS search engines like ES and Solr can be 
 *very* fast if you know how to use them.  For example, Sematext had a 
 client recently whose initial queries against a 500K doc index took 90 
 seconds.  We changed the structure of the index in a way that may have 
 seemed crazy to some and ended up with 10x taller index that was 
 returning results in just a few seconds on a single machine.  So since 
 open-source engines are free to use, you should simply try them out and see 
 if they are fast enough for you, for your use case.  I'll bet my left 
 pinkie that you'll find they'll be plenty fast.  And if they are not, you 
 can get help on this ML or from companies that provide ES consulting 
 services.

 Otis
 --
 ELASTICSEARCH Performance Monitoring - http://sematext.com/spm 
 http://sematext.com/spm/index.html



 On Thursday, May 23, 2013 5:10:09 AM UTC-4, Paul wrote:

 Hi Otis

 Probably not the best place here to ask. maybe quora.

 Apart from the cost and support, what about performance?

 On Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:29:11 AM UTC+8, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:

 Hi Paul,

 Hm, that's a pretty big question.  For one, open-source engines are 
 cheaper. :)
 But maybe you have specific requirements or features you want to 
 inquire about?

 Otis
 --
 ELASTICSEARCH Performance Monitoring - 
 http://sematext.com/spm/index.html
 Search Analytics - http://sematext.com/search-analytics/index.html



 On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:17:45 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:

 Hi, 

 How would you compare community-based search engines (ES, Apache 
 Lucene) with Commercial Enterprise Search (IBM, EMC, Oracle Endeca - MDEX 
 Engine, etc) ?

 Thanks.
 Paul



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Re: How would you compare ES, Lucene with Enterprise Search ?

2014-08-13 Thread Shawn Johnson
Otis,
I know this is old, but what do you mean by taller?

On Friday, May 24, 2013 12:28:17 PM UTC-4, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:

 Hi,

 Short answer: I don't know.
 Medium answer: I'm sure each vendor would claim superiority or, if losing 
 in perf, would bring up functionality their tool has that others do not
 True answer: you would really have to test it yourself.  There are a 
 million ways to do comparative benchmarks and lots of different use cases, 
 that it's impossible to test them all and provide truthful reports.

 What I can say though is that OSS search engines like ES and Solr can be 
 *very* fast if you know how to use them.  For example, Sematext had a 
 client recently whose initial queries against a 500K doc index took 90 
 seconds.  We changed the structure of the index in a way that may have 
 seemed crazy to some and ended up with 10x taller index that was 
 returning results in just a few seconds on a single machine.  So since 
 open-source engines are free to use, you should simply try them out and see 
 if they are fast enough for you, for your use case.  I'll bet my left 
 pinkie that you'll find they'll be plenty fast.  And if they are not, you 
 can get help on this ML or from companies that provide ES consulting 
 services.

 Otis
 --
 ELASTICSEARCH Performance Monitoring - http://sematext.com/spm 
 http://sematext.com/spm/index.html



 On Thursday, May 23, 2013 5:10:09 AM UTC-4, Paul wrote:

 Hi Otis

 Probably not the best place here to ask. maybe quora.

 Apart from the cost and support, what about performance?

 On Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:29:11 AM UTC+8, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:

 Hi Paul,

 Hm, that's a pretty big question.  For one, open-source engines are 
 cheaper. :)
 But maybe you have specific requirements or features you want to inquire 
 about?

 Otis
 --
 ELASTICSEARCH Performance Monitoring - 
 http://sematext.com/spm/index.html
 Search Analytics - http://sematext.com/search-analytics/index.html



 On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:17:45 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:

 Hi, 

 How would you compare community-based search engines (ES, Apache 
 Lucene) with Commercial Enterprise Search (IBM, EMC, Oracle Endeca - MDEX 
 Engine, etc) ?

 Thanks.
 Paul



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