Re: How can we use elasticsearch custom similarity plugin in mapping ?

2014-01-16 Thread Luca Cavanna
Using the function_score you could use a script. Since 0.90.10 you can 
access term statistics from a script 
(https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/3772), term 
frequency included. You could for instance emit your own score that takes 
into account only the term frequency but not the idf.

On Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:18:57 AM UTC+1, Jörg Prante wrote:

 I don't know how to do this by function score, but have you looked at it?

 Jörg



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Re: How can we use elasticsearch custom similarity plugin in mapping ?

2014-01-16 Thread Mukul Gupta
Is there any java api available for function_score ?


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Luca Cavanna cavannal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Using the function_score you could use a script. Since 0.90.10 you can
 access term statistics from a script (
 https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/3772), term
 frequency included. You could for instance emit your own score that takes
 into account only the term frequency but not the idf.


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 I don't know how to do this by function score, but have you looked at it?

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Re: How can we use elasticsearch custom similarity plugin in mapping ?

2014-01-16 Thread Mukul Gupta
I tried using FunctionScoreQueryBuilders but there is no such thing
available with me. Do I need to use any package for this ?


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Luca Cavanna cavannal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not sure what you mean, the function score is a query that is part of the
 query DSL. If you are using the java API, you can find the usual query
 builder, called FunctionScoreQueryBuilder or even use the handy
 QueryBuilders static methods to create one.


 On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Mukul Gupta mukulnit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is there any java api available for function_score ?


 On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Luca Cavanna cavannal...@gmail.comwrote:

 Using the function_score you could use a script. Since 0.90.10 you can
 access term statistics from a script (
 https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/3772), term
 frequency included. You could for instance emit your own score that takes
 into account only the term frequency but not the idf.


 On Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:18:57 AM UTC+1, Jörg Prante wrote:

 I don't know how to do this by function score, but have you looked at
 it?

 Jörg

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Re: How can we use elasticsearch custom similarity plugin in mapping ?

2014-01-16 Thread Luca Cavanna
I guess you are using a not so recent version of elasticsearch then. Which
version are you working on?


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Mukul Gupta mukulnit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried using FunctionScoreQueryBuilders but there is no such thing
 available with me. Do I need to use any package for this ?


 On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Luca Cavanna cavannal...@gmail.comwrote:

 Not sure what you mean, the function score is a query that is part of the
 query DSL. If you are using the java API, you can find the usual query
 builder, called FunctionScoreQueryBuilder or even use the handy
 QueryBuilders static methods to create one.


 On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Mukul Gupta mukulnit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is there any java api available for function_score ?


 On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Luca Cavanna cavannal...@gmail.comwrote:

 Using the function_score you could use a script. Since 0.90.10 you can
 access term statistics from a script (
 https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/3772), term
 frequency included. You could for instance emit your own score that takes
 into account only the term frequency but not the idf.


 On Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:18:57 AM UTC+1, Jörg Prante wrote:

 I don't know how to do this by function score, but have you looked at
 it?

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Re: How can we use elasticsearch custom similarity plugin in mapping ?

2014-01-16 Thread Mukul Gupta
My bad. I'm using elasticsearch-0.90.3. I guess it's not available in this
version.


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Luca Cavanna cavannal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess you are using a not so recent version of elasticsearch then. Which
 version are you working on?


 On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Mukul Gupta mukulnit...@gmail.comwrote:

 I tried using FunctionScoreQueryBuilders but there is no such thing
 available with me. Do I need to use any package for this ?


 On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Luca Cavanna cavannal...@gmail.comwrote:

 Not sure what you mean, the function score is a query that is part of
 the query DSL. If you are using the java API, you can find the usual query
 builder, called FunctionScoreQueryBuilder or even use the handy
 QueryBuilders static methods to create one.


 On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Mukul Gupta mukulnit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is there any java api available for function_score ?


 On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Luca Cavanna cavannal...@gmail.comwrote:

 Using the function_score you could use a script. Since 0.90.10 you can
 access term statistics from a script (
 https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/3772), term
 frequency included. You could for instance emit your own score that takes
 into account only the term frequency but not the idf.


 On Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:18:57 AM UTC+1, Jörg Prante wrote:

 I don't know how to do this by function score, but have you looked at
 it?

 Jörg

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Re: How can we use elasticsearch custom similarity plugin in mapping ?

2014-01-15 Thread joergpra...@gmail.com
The plugin is outdated.

You can override similarity by standard ES 0.90+

http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/index-modules-similarity.html

Jörg

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Re: How can we use elasticsearch custom similarity plugin in mapping ?

2014-01-15 Thread Mukul Gupta
I have read about that module but the thing is I have to set idf to 1.
Actually, I want common terms to give more weight in my search. Now, when I
googled about it, it says overriding the default similarity class is the
only way to achieve it. That's the reason why I'm looking for these plugins.


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 The plugin is outdated.

 You can override similarity by standard ES 0.90+


 http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/index-modules-similarity.html

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Re: How can we use elasticsearch custom similarity plugin in mapping ?

2014-01-15 Thread joergpra...@gmail.com
Why don't you use function score if you only want to tweak parameters?

http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/query-dsl-function-score-query.html

Changing similarity is a massive change, it's exchanging the whole
algorithm. Not recommended unless you can't get what you want from function
score.

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Re: How can we use elasticsearch custom similarity plugin in mapping ?

2014-01-15 Thread Ivan Brusic
I was focused on how to use a custom similarity and not how to actually
tackle the problem. In this respect, I agree with Jörg. Also, I believe the
today's release (1.0.0.RC1) has additional scripting options:

http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/modules-advanced-scripting.html

Cheers,

Ivan



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joergpra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why don't you use function score if you only want to tweak parameters?


 http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/query-dsl-function-score-query.html

 Changing similarity is a massive change, it's exchanging the whole
 algorithm. Not recommended unless you can't get what you want from function
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 Jörg

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Re: How can we use elasticsearch custom similarity plugin in mapping ?

2014-01-15 Thread Mukul Gupta
Hi Ivan,

Can you please tell me how can I add the above mentioned classes in my
elasticsearch classpath ?

Thanks


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 I have looked into that similarity plugin in the past and as far as I can
 tell, it is partially wrong. Judging by the elasticsearch code, there is no
 way to change the similarity depending if you are indexing or querying. The
 similarity is simply tied to a field and it is used at all times. Someone
 please correct me if I am wrong.

 Besides that, writing your own similarity plugin is simple. You just need
 one class extending AbstractSimilarityProvider and another class with the
 actual similarity, which probably extends DefaultSimilarity. No need for a
 plugin, you just need the classes in the elasticsearch classpath at startup.

 Cheers,

 Ivan


 On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Mukul Gupta mukulnit...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have read about that module but the thing is I have to set idf to 1.
 Actually, I want common terms to give more weight in my search. Now, when I
 googled about it, it says overriding the default similarity class is the
 only way to achieve it. That's the reason why I'm looking for these plugins.


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 joergpra...@gmail.com wrote:

 The plugin is outdated.

 You can override similarity by standard ES 0.90+


 http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/index-modules-similarity.html

 Jörg

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Re: How can we use elasticsearch custom similarity plugin in mapping ?

2014-01-15 Thread Mukul Gupta
Hi Jörg,

Let's say I want to modify my _score in such a way that it doesn't take
into consideration idf while calculating score. How can I achieve this
using function score ? Can you give me some example usage of function score
which takes only tf into consideration.

Thanks


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joergpra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why don't you use function score if you only want to tweak parameters?


 http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/query-dsl-function-score-query.html

 Changing similarity is a massive change, it's exchanging the whole
 algorithm. Not recommended unless you can't get what you want from function
 score.

 Jörg

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