[Elecraft] Anyone interested in an AMTOR Sked?

2006-01-14 Thread David Walker
I was wondering if anyone would be interested in an AMTOR sked in ARQ mode.  I 
worked a station last year in this mode across the pacific when the band was 
seemingly dead.  I used the K2, 5W and a dipole antenna.  It's a terrific mode 
and I still consider it to be one of the better digi modes even today.

Cheers,

Dave
VK2NA
Newcastle Oz
K2 #3222
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[Elecraft] Anyone thats Bought a K2 Kit in the UK what Duty did you pay?

2006-01-14 Thread Paul Webb
Hi

I have a  couple of K2’s here K2 QRP and a K2/100 (not built by me)

I have built a K1 over Christmas and now want to smell solder again!

I would like to buy a K2 kit but just before I do I was wondering how much
Duty etc I can expect to pay when the Kit arrives here.

Anyone that as ordered one from the states and lives in the UK any
comments??

All the best

Paul

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Re: [Elecraft] Anyone thats Bought a K2 Kit in the UK what Duty did you pay?

2006-01-14 Thread Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/KC8NHF

Paul Webb wrote:
Import duty is free  provided it is labelled properly.
VAT is 17.5%

You may get away with it but it's getting rarer.


Hi

I have a  couple of K2’s here K2 QRP and a K2/100 (not built by me)

I have built a K1 over Christmas and now want to smell solder again!

I would like to buy a K2 kit but just before I do I was wondering how much
Duty etc I can expect to pay when the Kit arrives here.

Anyone that as ordered one from the states and lives in the UK any
comments??

All the best

Paul

M0BMN








 



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Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language?

2006-01-14 Thread N2EY
I say Morse Code is a language form or type of language, rather than an 
encoding method or transcribing scheme. Here's why:

Consider written English vs. spoken English vs. sung English (songs and 
such, with English words. They're all forms of English, but they're not exactly 
equivalent. They're different forms of the same language, and the communication 
experience for all of them is different and unique. A change of emphasis in 
spoken English, or a change in punctuation, capitalization, or even font in 
written English can make a big difference.

Morse English is yet another form, that's all. It's unique because it's 
aural, like spoken or sung English, but is text-based and does not usually use 
a 
human voice.

And the communication experience for Morse is unique and different from the 
others. 

73 de Jim, N2EY
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Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT

2006-01-14 Thread Sandy W5TVW
Operating protocol today is absolutely atrocious at times!
A lot of the newer hams know nothing about really proper procedure and
many are very short on manners!
Biggest violation of all is when someone calls CQ, another station just
answers W1ABC W1ABC K.  Who is he calling?  I usually respond by sending: 
QRZ?  QRZ? DE W5TVW K.
Often the other station will simply send
W1ABC W1ABC K  If the band is crowded, which it often is, this had NOT
told me he is calling me!  We have not yet established communication so
the DE W1ABC or W1ABC IS NOT proper or polite procedure.

Whether a station uses OP, NAME, HANDLE (or whatever) that is his
preference, whatever turns his crank.

Add to this the Novice accent heard STILL today NNQ NNQ NNQ NNQ NNQ
DE W1ABC W1ABC.. repeated several times.  Then a 5 second
pause for an answer, followed by the same long CQ call again!  One chap on 40
a few nights ago repeated this for maybe 5-6 times.  I couldn't stand it any 
longer
and fired up the 1/2 Kw and called him.  He acted as if I was never there.
Either deaf or has his receiver somewhere besides his frequency.

Are ham license classes teaching proper procedures anymore?  I KNOW the
FCC doesn't give a damn.  Perhaps a cell phone ringing, or someone passing
gas loudly, or talking loudly in an office or church or theatre isn't considered
RUDE anymore, so why try to have any manners in the ham bands?

Sorry for the diatribe, but seems like too many of the newbies are not
paying attention or don't care.  More attention needs to be payed to
the ARRL operating manual or have they rewritten it to reflect the
times?

This 2 cents worth on Rotten Radio from this Old Man.

73 to all,
Sandy W5TVW
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT


| In a message dated 1/13/06 3:35:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|
|
|  The use of CL, KN, BK, or the use of both AR and K at the end of the same
|  transmission is nonsense.
|
|
| I disagree in part.
|
| CL means closing station, will not listen for any calls Equivalent to the
| military use of AR. How the amateur and military uses of AR got so
| different is a mystery to me.
|
| KN has a definite use in amateur radio if someone is rare DX.
|
| BK is different from K in that it is used in rapid-fire exchanges rather than
| with full callsign exchanges.
|
|
| I do agree about combining AR and K.
|
|
|  But BK is used in rapid-fire exchanges
|  *without* the formal callsign exchange:
|  .FB MOJO OM BT IS UR RIG A K2 or K1? BK
| 
|  Once again...a simple K serves even better.  There is no usage rule that
|  states that K must only be used following a call sign.
|
| No, but it emphasizes the quick nature of the exchange.
|
| 
|
| Couple of other points:
|
| Someone mentioned brevity.
|
| In my Novice days it was common to hear things like:
|
| R R R TNX FER CALL BT UR SIGS RST 599 599 BT QTH IS WAYNE, PA WAYNE, PA BT
| NAME IS JIM JIM
|
| pounded out at 5-7 wpm.
|
| But the same thing can be sent as:
|
| R R R TNX CL UR 599 599 IN WAYNE PA WAYNE PA  OP JIM JIM
|
| which still includes the repeats of the important stuff but is a bit
| shorter
|
|   ____
| On run together prosigns like AR and SK:
|
| I propose that since plaintext doesn't allow us to overline easily, we adopt
| the online convention of enclosing such signals in brackets. []
|
| So AR would mean didah   didahdit
|
| and  [AR] would mean didahdidahdit
|
| Agreed?
|
| --
|
| On standardization:
|
| It's interesting to see the variations in different military and commercial
| Morse operations vs. amateur, as well as ITU standards.
|
| But I think it's pretty clear that nobody else is going to set standards for
| Morse
| much any more. Indeed, at least here in the USA, the FCC has backed down from
| many old standards. For example, it used to be required by law that hams give
| their own call last - that's gone. So is logkeeping as a legal requirement,
| indicating most portable or mobile operation, indicating the station called,
| and much more.
|
| IOW, the standards for Morse in the future are going to be mostly what we
| hams say they are.
|
| 73 de Jim, N2EY
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Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT

2006-01-14 Thread Cortland Richmond
Hi Joe.

Morse turned out in practice not as useful as the Tap code. 
See http://www.miafacts.org/pages.htm

Cortland
KA5S


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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:14:53 -0500
From: Joseph Trombino Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Might I suggest that dragging a rock along the prison wall for a second or 
so can be used to make a DASH.as compared to the short tap of the rock 
against the wall for a DOT.

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Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT

2006-01-14 Thread BPCI
 
 
In a message dated 1/14/2006 8:13:59 AM Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Are ham  license classes teaching proper procedures  anymore? 

Sandy, I have been a ham for one and one-half years. There were no ham  
classes when I got licensed. Since I only operate CW, I looked for an elmer and 
 
found none. I signed up for the FISTS code buddy program and received no-one.  
Perhaps I am the worst lid you have ever heard, but I am striving to  become 
as proficient as you apparently are. I find cw operators to be the  kindest 
and forgiving of the many groups I have encountered in my 62 years of  life. I 
am still in the 15 to 20 word speed goup on a good day, but I absolutely  love 
this hobby. I assume I will improve with time--I am on the air everyday and  
also work on my speed with an MP3 player.
 
My point is that there are many of us like me making it on our own. Perhaps  
you got your training in some organized manner that simply is not very 
available  any more. So please be tolerant of those of us who are striving to 
learn. 
Thank  you, and I hope to meet you on the air...72/73, Ci

 
Ci Jones,  WU7R (k-2 #4615, K-1 #933, KX-1 #957)
FISTS #10789
NAQCC #306
ARCI  #12163
SKCC #22
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Re: [Elecraft] PB Sprint/Hunt Jan. 14

2006-01-14 Thread Ron Polityka

Hello,

I should be on the air from the AT around 18:00 UTC.

15 sounds open so I am going to try that band for a little while around 
21.060.


Then I will try 20 and then 30 meters. After 21:00 UTC I will be on 40 
meters around 7.110 for a while.


Can't nail down what band I will be on at a certain time but I should be + 
or- 5 of the QRP freq. It all depends on the propagation.


72 and Thanks,
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL
Polar Bear #1
www.wb3aal.com
www.n3epa.org 



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[Elecraft] KIO2 - KPA100/EC2 interconnect cable

2006-01-14 Thread Steve Jackson
For those of you who have built your KPA100 in an EC2
(as a two-box configuration) what type cabe did you
use to fabricate the interconnect?  And, more
importantly, why did you select whatever cable you did
use?  For example, did you use what was readily
available, or did you buy a particular cable expressly
for the purpose?

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Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT

2006-01-14 Thread Tony Martin W4FOA

Sandy,
I agree with much of what you have said but I would ask whom shall we 
blame?
Unfortunately, I think we, you and I, are to blame for the lack of skills 
and know how

of many of the newcomers.

I don't know how long you have been in ham radio, but it wasn't too many 
years

ago when most of us were in ham radio because of an elmer.  Someone that
introduced us to this wonderful hobby and nudged us along the way, 
encouraged us
when we wanted to give up, and then tutored us as we got on the air.  Even 
corrected

us when we were not operating according to the standards of the day.

Today it is too easy to buy a book off the shelf, spend a day studying it, 
spend 20 minutes
taking an exam and wait 24 hours to receive your own callsign.  The radio 
clubs are
ever so eager to have new members that many really don't spend the time to 
insure that
the new member will ever be more than a dues paying member and never 
realize there

is more to ham radio than 2 meters.

If there is a solution to the problem of poor operating habits by our 
newcomers, it will
be for each of us to take them by the hand and teach them the correct 
procedures.  BUT,
please don't think for one minute that ALL of the bad operators are 
newcomers.not

by any stretch of the imagination!

My two cents worth..

Tony, W4FOA


- Original Message - 
From: Sandy W5TVW [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT



Operating protocol today is absolutely atrocious at times!
A lot of the newer hams know nothing about really proper procedure and
many are very short on manners!
Biggest violation of all is when someone calls CQ, another station just
answers W1ABC W1ABC K.  Who is he calling?  I usually respond by 
sending: QRZ?  QRZ? DE W5TVW K.

Often the other station will simply send
W1ABC W1ABC K  If the band is crowded, which it often is, this had NOT
told me he is calling me!  We have not yet established communication so
the DE W1ABC or W1ABC IS NOT proper or polite procedure.

Whether a station uses OP, NAME, HANDLE (or whatever) that is his
preference, whatever turns his crank.

Add to this the Novice accent heard STILL today NNQ NNQ NNQ NNQ NNQ
DE W1ABC W1ABC.. repeated several times.  Then a 5 second
pause for an answer, followed by the same long CQ call again!  One chap on 
40
a few nights ago repeated this for maybe 5-6 times.  I couldn't stand it 
any longer

and fired up the 1/2 Kw and called him.  He acted as if I was never there.
Either deaf or has his receiver somewhere besides his frequency.

Are ham license classes teaching proper procedures anymore?  I KNOW the
FCC doesn't give a damn.  Perhaps a cell phone ringing, or someone passing
gas loudly, or talking loudly in an office or church or theatre isn't 
considered

RUDE anymore, so why try to have any manners in the ham bands?

Sorry for the diatribe, but seems like too many of the newbies are not
paying attention or don't care.  More attention needs to be payed to
the ARRL operating manual or have they rewritten it to reflect the
times?

This 2 cents worth on Rotten Radio from this Old Man.

73 to all,
Sandy W5TVW
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT


| In a message dated 1/13/06 3:35:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|
|
|  The use of CL, KN, BK, or the use of both AR and K at the end of the 
same

|  transmission is nonsense.
|
|
| I disagree in part.
|
| CL means closing station, will not listen for any calls Equivalent to 
the

| military use of AR. How the amateur and military uses of AR got so
| different is a mystery to me.
|
| KN has a definite use in amateur radio if someone is rare DX.
|
| BK is different from K in that it is used in rapid-fire exchanges rather 
than

| with full callsign exchanges.
|
|
| I do agree about combining AR and K.
|
|
|  But BK is used in rapid-fire exchanges
|  *without* the formal callsign exchange:
|  .FB MOJO OM BT IS UR RIG A K2 or K1? BK
| 
|  Once again...a simple K serves even better.  There is no usage rule 
that

|  states that K must only be used following a call sign.
|
| No, but it emphasizes the quick nature of the exchange.
|
| 
|
| Couple of other points:
|
| Someone mentioned brevity.
|
| In my Novice days it was common to hear things like:
|
| R R R TNX FER CALL BT UR SIGS RST 599 599 BT QTH IS WAYNE, PA WAYNE, PA 
BT

| NAME IS JIM JIM
|
| pounded out at 5-7 wpm.
|
| But the same thing can be sent as:
|
| R R R TNX CL UR 599 599 IN WAYNE PA WAYNE PA  OP JIM JIM
|
| which still includes the repeats of the important stuff but is a bit
| shorter
|
|   ____
| On run together prosigns like AR and SK:
|
| I propose that since plaintext doesn't allow us 

[Elecraft] Polar Bear Hunt, NK8Q Setup

2006-01-14 Thread Mark Schreiner
Well, I'm disappointed that I wasn't able to work any of the Polar 
Bears, either those who are already out on the ice pack (or in the case 
around here, mud muck due to the rain) or those who are still in their 
dens.  I slept in this morning since I was at The Camp visiting 
several new Polar Bears up there last night.  It was 
GGRReat to meet some new ones! 

Anyway, I have my home station almost packed up right now.  I'll be 
heading out within the next 1/2 hour and I should be at the operating 
QTH in about 1/2 hour.  Plan to operate from near the Appalachian Trail 
near where PA-309 crosses, north of Allentown near a small town called 
New Tripoli, PA.  I haven't decided which antenna to use yet but if 
possible I'll use my dipole if the WX isn't too preclusive for me to put 
it up (and if my old lines are still in the trees so that it goes quick 
 easy).  Otherwise I have a 33' end fed sloping vertical I may try 
instead. 

My operating plans are to hopefully be on the air by about 1800 or 1900Z 
and should operate until Z this evening.  I should be okay to 
operate on 80 to 17m and plan to do CW only.  Since the NAQP is going on 
I'll try to find frequencies that fairly well avoid it, but I would 
prefer to stay +/- 5 kHz of the normal QRP calling frequencies, or on 
40m around 7.109 in the much unused Novice band.  I would like to switch 
over to 80m (3.560) as soon as it starts getting close to getting dark, 
which would be around 2200Z around here.  I expect I should be on 30m 
quite a bit as well just to avoid more of the NAQP.  I already made one 
QSO this morning (from in the den) on 30m.


Well, 73 to all and hope to work many of you during the Hunt or before 
if I get the antennas set up in time!  

GGGRRR! 
Grr!  
gg 
(guess which one is QRP)


Mark, NK8Q
Polar Bear #4
K2 4786

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RE: [Elecraft] KIO2 - KPA100/EC2 interconnect cable

2006-01-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve,

There are only 4 signals (AUXBUS, 8R, VRFDET, and 12CTRL) to deal with, so
only 5 conductors are needed. The cable supplied with the KPA100 or the KIO2
normally used for the computer connection (4 C + shield) will do the job if
you use the shield as the ground connection.  Since you need both the KIO2
and the KPA100 to mount the KPA100 externally, you should have 2 of these
cables already.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 For those of you who have built your KPA100 in an EC2
 (as a two-box configuration) what type cabe did you
 use to fabricate the interconnect?  And, more
 importantly, why did you select whatever cable you did
 use?  For example, did you use what was readily
 available, or did you buy a particular cable expressly
 for the purpose?



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Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT

2006-01-14 Thread Earl W Cunningham
Of course it is!!

73, de Earl, K6SE
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO2 - KPA100/EC2 interconnect cable

2006-01-14 Thread Don Brown
Hi

I have built several K2/100's in this configuration. I used a 3 foot 
standard 50 ohm BNC to BNC cable and the multi conductor cable and 9 pin 
connectors that come with the KPA100. I got the 50 ohm cable a radio shack 
already assembled with crimped on connectors. If you do not have a KAT100 in 
the EC2 box you will need to install a chassis mount BNC on the back of the 
EC2 for the KPA100 RF input. Order an extra 2 pin male connector like used 
on the K2 RF board for the AUX RF connector. Solder this connector to the 
chassis mount BNC connector. Then you can plug in the cable from the KPA100 
without needing to change out the cable in case you would ever want to 
reinstall the KPA100 into the K2 or if you later add the KAT100 to the EC2 
box.

If you also install the KAT100 in the EC2 box then the BNC RF in connector 
is on the KAT100 with an internal 2 pin connector for the KPA100 RF in 
cable. The 9 pin connectors on the KPA100 and KAT100 are internally wired in 
parallel so either can be used for the control. You will need the KIO2 
installed in the K2 to supply the control signals for the KPA100 and KAT100. 
You will also need a short (about 1 foot) 50 ohm jumper cable with PL-259 
connectors to connect the RF out of the KPA100 to the RF in on the KAT100.

If you need to connect a computer to the RS232 then you must use the output 
from the KIO2 as the RS232 driver in the KPA100 is not connected to the K2 
when mounted in the external box. You must build the special control and 
RS232 cables as described in the manual . Using a standard RS232 cable will 
damage the internal control IC's in the KPA100 or KAT100

Don Brown

KD5NDB


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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] KIO2 - KPA100/EC2 interconnect cable


 For those of you who have built your KPA100 in an EC2
 (as a two-box configuration) what type cabe did you
 use to fabricate the interconnect?  And, more
 importantly, why did you select whatever cable you did
 use?  For example, did you use what was readily
 available, or did you buy a particular cable expressly
 for the purpose?
 
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RE: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT

2006-01-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ci,

For you and any others in your situation, may I suggest that you avail
yourself of the ARRL Operating Manual.  The ARRL Handbook used to briefly
cover operating standards, prosign usage, proper calling technique, etc. in
the Operating a Station chapter of the ARRL Handbook - it is present in my
1994 and earlier handbooks but was dropped sometime between 1994 and 1999 (I
surmise they are trying to sell more copies of th eOperating Manual by
dropping the info from the Handbook G).  Perhaps you can find an older
copy of the ARRL Handbook or the ARRL Operating Manual in a library or from
a ham friend.

IMHO, there is no good excuse for failing to know proper operating
technique - the information is certainly available and should be a part of
every ham's library - and that concept is one that should be presented in
any ham license class.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 Are ham  license classes teaching proper procedures  anymore?

 Sandy, I have been a ham for one and one-half years. There were no ham
 classes when I got licensed. Since I only operate CW, I looked
 for an elmer and
 found none. I signed up for the FISTS code buddy program and
 received no-one.
 Perhaps I am the worst lid you have ever heard, but I am
 striving to  become
 as proficient as you apparently are. I find cw operators to be
 the  kindest
 and forgiving of the many groups I have encountered in my 62
 years of  life. I
 am still in the 15 to 20 word speed goup on a good day, but I
 absolutely  love
 this hobby. I assume I will improve with time--I am on the air
 everyday and
 also work on my speed with an MP3 player.

 My point is that there are many of us like me making it on our
 own. Perhaps
 you got your training in some organized manner that simply is not very
 available  any more. So please be tolerant of those of us who are
 striving to learn.
 Thank  you, and I hope to meet you on the air...72/73, Ci


 Ci Jones,  WU7R (k-2 #4615, K-1 #933, KX-1 #957)
 FISTS #10789
 NAQCC #306
 ARCI  #12163
 SKCC #22


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[Elecraft] KPA100 Cable information

2006-01-14 Thread Steve Jackson
This is great information, guys, thanks.  I expect
that a LOT of 10W K2 owners will be adding KPA100
stages, in anticipation of the forthcoming QRO
amplifier.  One or two or three I know, in particular!

By the way:  my K2 #0771 has now passed 35,000 hours
of 'on' time.  That's not a typo: 35k+ hours.  It has
been running essentially non-stop (no notable
power-off time, except for trips to and from Field Day
sites, and for occasional bench time spent doing
upgrades) since January 2002.  

And - it had plenty of 'on' time before that, just not
continuously.  

The power configuration is with the IF amp current
control 'on' and with the S meter in 'bar' mode.

Try doing THAT with another radio!



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[Elecraft] Wanted: KAT1

2006-01-14 Thread Randy Moore
Just obtained a K1 and am looking for a KAT1.  Anyone have one they aren't
using?

73,
Randy, KS4L

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[Elecraft] XG1 Results with K1 s/n 1018

2006-01-14 Thread Clark Macaulay
Hello everyone!  My first post to this august group.
   
  I've always suspected my K1 receiver to be a little weak because of very weak 
audio fro the speaker although headphone volume is fine.  Not knowing whether 
it was an audio or RF problem, an XG1 was ordered and here are the results @ 
7040Khz using the 1 microV setting and measuring the AC voltage at the speaker 
terminals per XG1 instructions:
   
  --XG1 ON: 104 mV
  --XG1 OFF: 12 mV
   
  Using the formula in the XG1 instructions:
  --R(atio) = 8.2
  --  Log R = .9
  -- 20 x Log R = 18 db
  -- MDS approximates -107- 18 = -125 dbm
   
  which is a little off the -130 dbm identified in the XG1 instructions.
   
  My questions are:
   
  1) Are my results within range of what should be expected? When an antenna is 
attached, the noise rises significantly indicating to me that the receiver is 
working, but that is hardly an objective measurement.
   
  2) Should I stop trying to figure out why the speaker volume is so and low 
and just use headphones?  When I touch pin 1 of mixer U2, I get a loud blast 
from the speaker, so I'm convinced the audio chain is fine.  I'm just not sure 
if the RF level into it is high enough.  I have the K1-4 filter board and am 
sure I've peaked it for best results.
   
  BTW:  I do have the internal battery option, so when I say speaker volume is 
very low, I'm referring to the speaker and top cover being in place.
   
  73,
   
  Clark Macaulay
  KE4RQ
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RE: [Elecraft] XG1 Results with K1 s/n 1018

2006-01-14 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Hi, Clark:

It sounds like you are dealing with two different issues: Minimum
Discernable Signal (MDS) measurement and raw audio power. 

The MDS that you are measuring with the XG1 should not be associated with
how much racket you get in the speaker or phones. A very poor receiver can
make a lot of noise! It all depends upon the amount of amplification the
receiver has, which is quite different from the sensitivity. 

First, are you using a bandwidth of 500 Hz for the MDS measurement using the
XG1? The MDS you get will depend a lot upon that bandwidth. Since you are
measuring the receiver's response to an unmodulated signal and comparing it
to the noise with no signal, the narrower the bandwidth, the less noise
energy you will detect with the XG1 turned off, so the better the calculated
MDS. CW receiver MDS is commonly calculated using a receiver bandwidth of
500 Hz so we're comparing apples and apples when comparing two rigs. 

All that aside, the audio level is a wholly different problem. I do not own
a K1 so I'll leave it to K1 owners to suggest remedies for that. 

Ron AC7AC

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Re: [Elecraft] Anyone thats Bought a K2 Kit in the UK what Duty did youpay?

2006-01-14 Thread Peter Howson

Paul

The K2 is duty free in the EU. You will have to pay a fee to Parcel Post for 
handling the package through customs - depends on the import value, I paid 
13.50 GBP, and the VAT.


The EU class the K2 as Transceiver Apparatus for Radio Telephony with 
category codes 8525 2099 00 and 8529 9040 00. One relates to the K2 the 
other is for the additional modules. But don't worry about these, Elecraft 
quote them on the address label and the invoice.


But don't be surprised if customs charge the duty. They did on mine (Jan 04) 
and I have heard of other cases. Parcel Force, although charging you to 
handle customs, can / will not help. I wrote to Customs with a copy of the 
invoice and the parcel label and was reimbursed.


When I bought additional modules last Spring I had no problems at all.

Go for it and join the UK K2 band. There is lots of help on the reflector if 
you need it, even if it just a little encouragement.


Best 73
Peter

GM8GAX
K2 #4027



-
I would like to buy a K2 kit but just before I do I was wondering how much
Duty etc I can expect to pay when the Kit arrives here.

Anyone that as ordered one from the states and lives in the UK any
comments??

All the best

Paul

M0BMN








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Re: [Elecraft] Polar Bear Hunt, NK8Q Setup

2006-01-14 Thread Don Nesbitt

Can't find a Bear anywhere !  Lots of NA but no PB ! 73 -- Don N4HH

SNIP

Anyway, I have my home station almost packed up right now.  I'll be 
heading out within the next 1/2 hour and I should be at  My operating 
plans are to hopefully be on the air by about 1800 or 1900Z and should 
operate until Z this evening.  I should  I'll try to find 
frequencies that fairly well avoid it, but I would prefer to stay +/- 5 
kHz of the normal QRP calling frequencies, or on 40m around 7.109 in the 
much unused Novice band.  I would like to switch over to 80m (3.560) as 
soon as it starts getting close to getting dark, which would be around 
2200Z around here.  I expect I should be on 30m quite a bit as well just 
to avoid more of the NAQP.  I already made one QSO this morning (from in 
the den) on 30m.


Well, 73 to all and hope to work many of you during the Hunt or before 
if I get the antennas set up in time!



Mark, NK8Q
Polar Bear #4
K2 4786


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Re: [Elecraft] Polar Bear Hunt, NK8Q Setup

2006-01-14 Thread Don Nesbitt
Just worked Polar Bear Mark NK8Q on 7109.23 he was 539 here in Atlanta, GA. 
He is now calling CQ.  73 -- Don N4HH


Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Polar Bear Hunt, NK8Q Setup



Can't find a Bear anywhere !  Lots of NA but no PB ! 73 -- Don N4HH


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Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT

2006-01-14 Thread Vic K2VCO

Sandy W5TVW wrote:


Operating protocol today is absolutely atrocious at times!
A lot of the newer hams know nothing about really proper procedure 


If they are actually *using CW* I'm happy!
--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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[Elecraft] Y Cable when using the KPA100 and KAT100 in the EC-2

2006-01-14 Thread Todd J Gahagan
I need to extend the length of the Y cable coming off of the back of the K2 
that goes to my computer.  Can I just use a plain DB-9 to DB-9 extension cable? 
 Probably a dumb question but I don't want to fry anything in the KIO2.

Thanks, 
Todd, WA7U
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Re: [Elecraft] Y Cable when using the KPA100 and KAT100 in the EC-2

2006-01-14 Thread Todd J Gahagan

Thanks for the quick reply!


- Original Message - 
From: Todd J Gahagan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Elecraft List Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:03 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Y Cable when using the KPA100 and KAT100 in the EC-2


I need to extend the length of the Y cable coming off of the back of the K2 
that goes to my computer.  Can I just use a plain DB-9 to DB-9 extension 
cable?  Probably a dumb question but I don't want to fry anything in the 
KIO2.


Thanks,
Todd, WA7U
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Query -- Survey

2006-01-14 Thread Tom Althoff
Earlier works for me!

de K2TA
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 1:11 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Query -- Survey


 A few of you folks have expressed an interest in moving at least the
 twenty meter net an hour earlier.  I feel the same way if my vote holds
 any weight.  A number of you have heard Tom and I chat a bit before the
 twenty meter net but when net time rolls around just a few minutes later I
 am either gone or so close to ESP copy as not to matter.

 I am not sure about moving the forty meter net earlier since I don't think
 it would help propagation between all of us.  However, the question is:
 Are you interested in moving the nets earlier by one hour for about a
 month or so?  Then we'll move back to where we don't bug the contesters
 during the early net.

 Don't hesitate to comment since we don't have too long to collect a vote.

 Your humble NECOS 5th class,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS
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RE: [Elecraft] Y Cable when using the KPA100 and KAT100 in the EC-2

2006-01-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
Todd,

Once you have constructed the K2 to computer cable properly, yes, you may
extend it using a normal computer serial cable.  Reason is that only the
required RS232 level lines are present in the Elecraft specified cable -
there will be no connection to other RS232 level lines (the ones that cause
problems with the K2 because they are used for internal signalling).

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-


 I need to extend the length of the Y cable coming off of the back
 of the K2 that goes to my computer.  Can I just use a plain DB-9
 to DB-9 extension cable?  Probably a dumb question but I don't
 want to fry anything in the KIO2.

 Thanks,
 Todd, WA7U


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[Elecraft] WB3AAL PB Sprint/Hunt Jan. 14 Report

2006-01-14 Thread Ron Polityka

Hello,

I arrived at the WB3AAL and NK8Q Polar Bear operating site around 17:30 
UTC, Mark arrived a few minutes before I did. After I drove back the road I 
seen Mark and we chatted for a little while about the antenna setup 
conditions. Mark was going horizontal and I was vertical with K2's so we 
were good to go.


The temp. was in the mid 40's and it was an overcast day. The fog rolled in 
and it quickly went out of the area. Looked real weird, at times I was had 
to see where Mark was sitting when the fog rolled in.


I hate operating out of a car, I always forget something. This time I forgot 
my mounting PVC for the vertical. I had a four foot ground rod that I 
pounded into the ground about 2 feet. Then I wrapped electrical tape around 
the top and about 8 down, I made it the same size as the ID of the fishing 
pole. The pole slipped over and worked very nice. I took the ground rod and 
attached a wire and clipped it to the radial on the antenna. I also picked 
up the wrong cable for my laptop to key the K2, I took the serial port 
instead of the parallel port cable. So I used the memories on the K2 for 
messages and CQ'ing.


I started out on 15 meters calling CQ around 18:10 UTC but I did not work 
anyone. I heard a lot of signals on CW and SSB but I could not raise anyone. 
So I went to 20 meter SSB. I worked 6 stations and they all gave me good 
reports from a 57 to 59 + 20 dB over. Then when the sprint started I worked 
3 stations on 7.109 MHz, 3 stations on 10.109 MHz, one on 7.108 and then my 
last one on 14.064. So I made a total of 14 QSO's from the Appalachian Trail 
with a total of 8 QSO's during the Sprint. I did work one Polar Bear 2 
times, I found Mark de NK8Q on the bands.  :-) I did listen around for a 
while on 40, 30 and 20 meters for other PB's but I had no luck. I did pick 
up two more States and a new country. I work someone in MS and in AK. Yep, I 
worked Alaska from the AT. He was my last QSO for the day I could have done 
a back flip when I worked him on 20 meters. He came back to my CQ and I just 
could not believe it. Happy Dance As I was sending my information to the 
AK station I looked at my antenna. With 30 MPH winds the tip of the antenna 
was about 5 to 8 feet off the ground. He copied everything. The car was even 
shaking from the wind. You should have heard the wind howling through the 
Microwave tower that was there. I had to get out a few time to fix the 
antenna, the wires kept coming off the connections. I also worked a P43 
station in Aruba and he is from PA.


By the time 5 PM rolled around the temp was down to 32' and it was snowing 
and sleeting. Mark and I decided to call it a day and get something to eat 
and drink.


Next year the sprint will be on a week night, no contest then.  ;-)

72 and Thanks,
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL
Polar Bear #1
www.wb3aal.com
www.n3epa.org 



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Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT

2006-01-14 Thread Sandy W5TVW
I have taught many CW procedures classes in the past.  I was also
frequently tapped to explain tube amplifier classes, oscillator circuits, etc.
as most of the people wanted to know this in addition to solid state gear
theory.
I did this umtil there seemed to be no interest in doing this anymore.
This was the era when it seemed everyone was unloading vacuum tube gear,
even throwing it in the dumpster at hamfests!  The days when you could 
buy all the Johnson Viking Rangers you wanted  for $20-40 TOPS, some in
mint condition!  Wished I'd bought some of them then!  (If I did, I knew my
XYL would raise hell about storing all that junk!)

Most hams then were more interested in getting the code to 13 WPM and
then forgetting it and working SSB 'phone.  Anyone at the time that liked CW
was usually checking into an ARRL NTS net and learned traffic net procedures
and proper protocol.  Contesting was popular, but the contests were rather far
apart and few between, so most CW contesters would ragchew at times to keep
their code speed up.  No computers and 'code readers, and computers in those
days for most hams.

I find most CW operators are QRPers or are fooling with boatanchor/glowbug 
rigs nowadays.  There are a FEW  newbies that take to code like ducks to 
water.  I'm afraid the realm of the telegrapher is getting smaller and 
smaller.
It's ashame as Morse is a VERY unique communication system and an 'art'.
The Amateurs and airplane pilots seem the only ones who still use it.
(Yes, airplane pilots STILL have to use Morse to decode the aural
identification of DME/VOR/NDB transmitters/beacons.)

73,
Sandy W5TVW
- Original Message - 
From: Tony Martin W4FOA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sandy W5TVW [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT


| Sandy,
| I agree with much of what you have said but I would ask whom shall we 
| blame?
| Unfortunately, I think we, you and I, are to blame for the lack of skills 
| and know how
| of many of the newcomers.
| 
| I don't know how long you have been in ham radio, but it wasn't too many 
| years
| ago when most of us were in ham radio because of an elmer.  Someone that
| introduced us to this wonderful hobby and nudged us along the way, 
| encouraged us
| when we wanted to give up, and then tutored us as we got on the air.  Even 
| corrected
| us when we were not operating according to the standards of the day.
| 
| Today it is too easy to buy a book off the shelf, spend a day studying it, 
| spend 20 minutes
| taking an exam and wait 24 hours to receive your own callsign.  The radio 
| clubs are
| ever so eager to have new members that many really don't spend the time to 
| insure that
| the new member will ever be more than a dues paying member and never 
| realize there
| is more to ham radio than 2 meters.
| 
| If there is a solution to the problem of poor operating habits by our 
| newcomers, it will
| be for each of us to take them by the hand and teach them the correct 
| procedures.  BUT,
| please don't think for one minute that ALL of the bad operators are 
| newcomers.not
| by any stretch of the imagination!
| 
| My two cents worth..
| 
| Tony, W4FOA
| 
| 
| - Original Message - 
| From: Sandy W5TVW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
| Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:44 PM
| Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT
| 
| 
|  Operating protocol today is absolutely atrocious at times!
|  A lot of the newer hams know nothing about really proper procedure and
|  many are very short on manners!
|  Biggest violation of all is when someone calls CQ, another station just
|  answers W1ABC W1ABC K.  Who is he calling?  I usually respond by 
|  sending: QRZ?  QRZ? DE W5TVW K.
|  Often the other station will simply send
|  W1ABC W1ABC K  If the band is crowded, which it often is, this had NOT
|  told me he is calling me!  We have not yet established communication so
|  the DE W1ABC or W1ABC IS NOT proper or polite procedure.
| 
|  Whether a station uses OP, NAME, HANDLE (or whatever) that is his
|  preference, whatever turns his crank.
| 
|  Add to this the Novice accent heard STILL today NNQ NNQ NNQ NNQ NNQ
|  DE W1ABC W1ABC.. repeated several times.  Then a 5 second
|  pause for an answer, followed by the same long CQ call again!  One chap on 
|  40
|  a few nights ago repeated this for maybe 5-6 times.  I couldn't stand it 
|  any longer
|  and fired up the 1/2 Kw and called him.  He acted as if I was never there.
|  Either deaf or has his receiver somewhere besides his frequency.
| 
|  Are ham license classes teaching proper procedures anymore?  I KNOW the
|  FCC doesn't give a damn.  Perhaps a cell phone ringing, or someone passing
|  gas loudly, or talking loudly in an office or church or theatre isn't 
|  considered
|  RUDE anymore, so why try to have any manners in the ham 

[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2006-01-14 Thread Kevin Rock

Good Evening,
   The votes are trickling in.  There is not one nay vote or abstention in 
the bunch.  It appears folks wish for both the twenty and the forty meter 
nets to move earlier by one hour.  Thus: twenty meters at 2300z Sunday and 
the forty meter net at 0200z Monday.  Frequencies are dependent upon use 
when I get on the air.  If they are occupied and the folks doing so are 
long winded ;) I'll move +/- 1 kHz.  Now to put a great big note on the 
refrigerator, another on the window in front of my radio, and yet a third 
on my computer so I remember what in the world is going on!
   Remember this is only until the sun starts setting a bit later in the 
day.  Plus if there is a major, or even a minor contest going on, things 
may have to change.  Hopefully by moving up by an hour the propagation 
will hold long enough to check a few of you in to the net.
   We have gone one whole day without too much rain.  When the sun set I 
could see blue sky.  For folks from the Northwest blue is quite a strange 
color.  We also need to be reminded quite often during this part of the 
year what that big yellow ball in the sky is ;)  Some folks go so far as 
to drive to the other side of the Cascade Range to see clear sky and sun.  
The rest of us just get used to the gloom and let the moss grow on our 
vehicles!
   This year it is especially wet and soggy.  Twice last week I had to 
drive through the creek to get to work.  Normally that creek is under the 
bridge.  This week it was well over the bridge.  But if you drive slowly 
you don't short out the electrics :)  Good thing I am not on my British 
motorcycle!  The Nehalem and Tualatin Rivers are both high but the respite 
from the downpour means the flooding is closer to the coast than it was 
earlier this week.


  Please join us:
Sunday 2300z (Sunday 3pm PST) 14050 kHz
Monday 0200z (Sunday 6pm PST)  7045 kHz

Visit our web site: http://ecn.visionseer.com/ for further details.  Thank 
you for the web space Dan.		


Stay dry and keep your fires burning folks,
   Kevin.  KD5ONS
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