Re: [Elecraft] Choke & RFC K2 PCB Markings?
Fred (FL) wrote: > I'm a bit confused as to the "markings" for 2-terminal > CHOKES, RFC's, and L's - used on the RF BOARD of the > K2. [...] > What is the WIDER band supposed to represent? Is it > the TOLERANCE or the first color band? All of these (Choke, RFC, L) are basically just coils. There is no positive or negative, there is no polarisation, they can be installed either way 'round and it shouldn't make any difference which way 'round you install them. I installed all of mine in the same orientation as resistors (which are again unpolarised) - so the bands can be read left-to-right, or top-to-bottom. Yes, the extra band (usually gold) is a tolerance, again exactly like the resistors. -- "Nosey" Nick Waterman, G7RZQ, K2 #5209. use Std::Disclaimer;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science: solving today's problems tomorrow. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: Transverter inquiry
I am in the same situation and I just want to make sure that I fully understanding what the solution is: I have a K2 with the K60XV option installed and will use a XV50 for 6m operation. I need to have no more than 10w being produced by the XV50 so I don't fry my 6m brick. I would construct the XV50 and configure it to be driven by a K2 with the K60XV module as per the instructions (1mW drive). Assuming that the XV50 is set to be TRN1, I would set the OUT parameter for TRN1 to .50 (.5 mW) - which would therefore make the max output of the XV50 10w. This would be independent on any setting of the Power control on the K2. I this the correct procedure for limiting to output of the XV50 to 10w based on my equipment configuration? 73 Dennis - WB0WAO EN84ij Iosco County, Michigan K2 #3555 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 and Kenwood TL-120 linear
Trev, Well, I got the linear working OK, at least on digital modes which are 99% of my QSOs. I'm switching it on and off via the COM1 port and an opto-isolator. The opto-isolator switches the base to collector connection (12K resistor in series) of the switching transistor in the main relay circuit of the TL-120. I could have just grounded the bottom end of the main relay (~40mA current, well within the 4N25 opto-isolator limits), but I reckoned the final solution was the more elegant. K2 minimum drive (~0.1W indicated) gives me 30W from the TL-120 at the ATU. It'll run 50 watts RTTY without the fan coming on. Thanks again and 73 Bob 2M0KDZ PS Now for SSB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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hi, i have the following problem with my elecraft K2 s/n 3922: when i listening to a station in a quietly position of the AF GAIN (position 9 o clock pm), then the audio was a little bit distortet. when the AF GAIN are in a louder position, may be 10 o clock position, the distortion on the audio was disappeared. what can be the cause of this distortion? Get anyone an idea? 73 de dg3oo manfred ___ SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! http://f.web.de/?mc=021192 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft] DSL filters as RFI filters
There may be several types of DSL filters out there. Each may have a different frequency response characteristic. The original ADSL (Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Network) had a frequency range starting at about 25kHz and ending at about 1.1MHz. The range from 25kHz to 138kHz is the "upstream" and from 138kHz to 1.1MHz is "downstream". The wider bandwidth for the downstream is designed for faster downloading, since most people download more than they upload. Now there are DSL types that extend to 2.2MHz (ADSL2+), 4.4MHz (ADSL2++), 12MHz (VDSL) and as high as 30MHz (VDSL2). There are also variations that may end at some other frequencies between 1.1MHz and 30MHz depending on the local service. The phone frequencies (called "POTS" - Plain Old Telephone Service) range from DC to about 3400Hz. The DC signals include the "ringing" voltage. Signals in the ranges above (voice from DC to 3.4kHz and DSL from 25kHz to up to 30MHz) may be present on the twisted-pair telephone cables from the Central Office to the home (called the "local loop"). 73, John W2XS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Choke & RFC K2 PCB Markings?
Typically, the extra bands can be a tolerance band of silver or gold. 10 per cent for silver and 5 per cent for gold. On resistors that have a fourth color band, that sometimes is a voltage rating, if not a silver or gold band. Stuart K5KVH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft]
Manfred, Does this occur with both the headphones and the speaker? If it is only with the speaker, you may have a speaker with a distorted frame. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:23 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] > > > hi, > > i have the following problem with my elecraft K2 s/n 3922: > > when i listening to a station in a quietly position of the AF > GAIN (position 9 o clock pm), then the audio was a little bit > distortet. when the AF GAIN are in a louder position, may be 10 o > clock position, the distortion on the audio was disappeared. what > can be the cause of this distortion? > > Get anyone an idea? > > 73 de dg3oo > manfred > > ___ > SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und > kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! http://f.web.de/?mc=021192 > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.2/314 - Release Date: 4/16/2006 > > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Touch Paddle Progress
Hi all, I have made progress with making a touch paddle for my K2. I have some documentation at: http://users.ev1.net/~spituch/Steve's%20Page/Radio/SW40+/SW40+.html Regards, Steve, W2MY/5 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/317 - Release Date: 4/18/2006 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Is a K2 Realignment Advisable
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Jim Harris wrote: My K2/100 (S/N 4787) is about 10 months old. My question is at what point, or ever, should all the initial alignments be repeated? There are several reasons for asking the question other than electronic components simply drifting a bit with age. Old tube-type rigs required this every year or so, because the heat aged the components. Modern components and equipment are much better and don't get nearly so hot. 1. Recently I've noticed when it is initially turned on the received frequency is about 100 hz high judged by the pitch of people's voices that I know. After 20-30 minutes they drift to near exact frequency. I had this sort of problem before I installed the PLL and BFO stability mods. Your K2 may be recent enough to have come with these modifications. 2. When initially turned on and transmitting right away I've had reports of distortion like I'm crowding the mike. Ditto the above. 3. When doing the initial alignment I had a terrible time with zero beating due to bad hearing. A frequncy counter finally helped solve that to some degree. The K2 is never going to be a precise frequency meter. Due to the nature of the tuning mechanism, it could have an error as large as 30 Hz. I wouldn't sweat a re-calibration unless you find it to be a kHz or two off. 4. I did not use spectrogram as it seemed confusing and my radio seemed to play well enough without it. It is still equal to or better than my IC746Pro. Programs like spectrogram can really help to adjust the filters accurately. I just hate to fix it if it's not broke. But, I'm wondering if I could squeeze a little more performance out of it. I hate to have my K2 on the bench for 2-3 days and not be able to use it. Well, what does everyone say. Go for it or not? Thanks for the help and bandwidth. Wait until you want to make a mod or some other change. Enjoy it in the meantime. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Choke & RFC K2 PCB Markings?
I have never heard of a resistor with a 4th color band for voltage. Using 4 color bands for the resistance value is quite common -- see just about any small 1% resistor. Three bands for the significant digits and one for the power of 10. Mark AD5SS On 4/18/06, Stuart Rohre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Typically, the extra bands can be a tolerance band of silver or gold. 10 > per cent for silver and 5 per cent for gold. On resistors that have a > fourth color band, that sometimes is a voltage rating, if not a silver or > gold band. > > Stuart > K5KVH > > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] T1 review in AR magazine
An article written by myself on constructing the T1 tuner, has been published in the April issue of Amateur Radio Magazine (Australia). Best regards, Chris Meagher VK2LCD PO Box 61 Woodburn NSW 2472 Australia Nearest town: Evans Head HF Rig: Elecraft K2 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Receiver actually works!
Just finished Alignment Part II. Found a few more wiring errors in the process and fixed them. Really is sweet to actually listen to 40M. The sound is exceptionally clean. I've been listening to an old Heathkit regenerative receiver to practice code for license exam. Quite a change in quality now with the K2. I am using a multiband dipole, twin lead to balun and RG8U to K2. At first I thought it was too quiet. Then I turned on the PreAmp...still very clean yet seems very sensitive. I almost want to take a break for a while before continuing the kit so I can listen some more (!) I'm sure I'm not done with mistakes yet, but I want everyone to know that If I can do this kit, you can. You've heard of Worked All States, I feel eligible for Replaced All Parts. Broke a two pin connector, lost a few diodes...early in the kit, I soldered every electrolytic cap on the control board backwards,,,the big stripe MUST be plus, right? Yes, I AM an idiot. I'm learning, though. Getting better at desoldering (although I wish I didn't need to). On the Alignment Part II, I just found that I soldered TWO IF transformers incorrectly... used the wrong ones! Of course, I had to break the IF's to remove them...board is OK, though. I did this after rechecking the directions TWICE... strange how you can convince yourself you're correct and miss something like this. I feel very proud to have come this far. Now I can't wait to get on the air. It's only been 30 years. I think Elecraft has an excellent product but the best part is the intangible sense of accomplishment that kit building brings. Thanks Elecraft for keeping me on the right track. John AB8WH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT
On Feb 8, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Mike Morrow wrote: IMHO, this practice [dropping DE and K prosigns in contests] reflects badly on the contester (on his Morse "professionalism," if you will). Unfortunately, it also becomes for many a bad habit carried over into routine operation. We're only talking about taking a *small* additional fraction of a second to send a complete and proper exchange. My point is that the extra prosigns aren't necessary in this case. The contesters are already sending exchanges that conform to known patterns -- the overhead isn't needed. In reality, most contest time and energy is utilized sending unanswered calls over and over and over and over. But during the time that there are responders to those CQs, working the callers quickly and efficiently can make a huge difference in score. If several callers are there at the same time, they may not stick around if the operator isn't super-efficient. It is unfortunate that contest and DX rules in general don't mandate complete call sign exchanges by both stations, each containing both station call signs along with the proper prosigns. There are some contests which dictate the sending of both callsigns -- the NA Sprint is one. That would certainly be more appropriate than the totally perfunctory 599 report usually sent with each exchange. Not all contests use a 599 report. Many have much more interesting exchanges. NAQP, for example, uses the Name and State, Province or Country. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT
On Feb 8, 2006, at 10:49 AM, Sandy W5TVW wrote: | However, these days, operating zero-beat on a single frequency, the | long call is just a waste of time. You call CQ DE W5TVW K. I'll | answer AA4LR on the same frequency. Where's the confusion? Perhaps no confusion to you, the sending operator, but a possible bit of confusion to the operator who called CQ! I and many others have THOUSANDS of successful CW QSOs using these techniques. Firstly, let's assume you have imperfect propagation conditions: fading, static, whatever. You might miss my call or get it confused if I sent it just once. On 160m and sometimes 80m, perhaps I'll double the call to AA4LR AA4LR. If you only get part of it, you'll send the part you got: 4LR. I'll respond with my full call again: AA4LR AA4LR. The more times we repeat this, the more times I'll repeat my call. Anything else might likely lead to asking you to repeat your callsign, which takes up even more time? The point is, especially in a contest, the vast majority of the time, the first call works. And this protocol works well when there are multiple callers, too. Just a one time sent callsign IS bad operating practice and operating manners. Some of the very best operators I know are contesters, and they ALL do this. It can't possibly be a "bad practice". Contest conditions are usually frantic, crowded and many times plain RUDE. Well, that's true. Such things as sections/states and unique member numbers are exchanged. In the peak of the QRM/QSB I usually always send State and my number TWICE. This is kinda a "QRP" mentality -- "I'm weak and in the noise, I better be redundant." That's not always so. Low power and QRP stations can have formidable and readable signals, given reasonable antennas and fair to good conditions. In some cases, such redundancy may be helpful, like on 160m. But, mostly, it just wastes time. Otherwise, you have to ask for a repeat which wastes more time. Fills can be done quickly and efficiently, too. | The old "Novice Accent" advice was to do 3x3x3 - CQ CQ CQ DE W1ABC | W1ABC W1ABC repeated three times. Again, that was with a lot of guys | still rock-bound. These days, a single 3x3 with a few seconds of | listening seems more appropriate. | I agree LOONG CQ calls or doing a 3 X 3 format three times IS...repeat IS a waste of time and "overkill". Do the 3 X 3 and wait 15-60 seconds and repeat the call. We do agree on this! We still have a few people who have "vintage" transmitters that are crystal controlled, but sadly very few people who "tune around", even a couple of kHz. with the RIT control. Or open up the filter bandwidth, at least. Anyway, the sum of it is, nobody seems like they are teaching ANY really good operating practices anymore. And we agree here, too. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT
AMEN! I can't agree more with Mike! Why get sloppy and why some guys trying to run their keyers at 40 WPM? Why send your callsign just once on the initial call? Twice should be a matter of minimums, how does the sender know his signal is BOOMING in or in the clear? You just have to ask him to repeat, which RUINS the "speed" advantage, or wastes the time he's trying to save! E-S-P-E-C-I-A-L-L-Y during a QRP contest! Won't people EVER learn? Just how much time does sending a "DE" or a "K" take? 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: "Bill Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mike Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT | | On Feb 8, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Mike Morrow wrote: | | > IMHO, this practice [dropping DE and K prosigns in contests] | > reflects badly on the contester (on his Morse | > "professionalism," if you will). Unfortunately, it also becomes | > for many a | > bad habit carried over into routine operation. We're only talking | > about | > taking a *small* additional fraction of a second to send a complete | > and | > proper exchange. | | My point is that the extra prosigns aren't necessary in this case. | The contesters are already sending exchanges that conform to known | patterns -- the overhead isn't needed. | | > In reality, most contest time and energy is utilized | > sending unanswered calls over and over and over and over. | | But during the time that there are responders to those CQs, working | the callers quickly and efficiently can make a huge difference in | score. If several callers are there at the same time, they may not | stick around if the operator isn't super-efficient. | | > It is unfortunate that contest and DX rules in general don't mandate | > complete call sign exchanges by both stations, each containing both | > station | > call signs along with the proper prosigns. | | There are some contests which dictate the sending of both callsigns | -- the NA Sprint is one. | | > That would certainly be more | > appropriate than the totally perfunctory 599 report usually sent | > with each | > exchange. | | Not all contests use a 599 report. Many have much more interesting | exchanges. NAQP, for example, uses the Name and State, Province or | Country. | | Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" | -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 | | ___ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/309 - Release Date: 4/11/2006 | | ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Non-K2 mics Preamp Schematic
Okay, everyone I totally goofed on this one. It is on the Elecraft Website. The URL is http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/microphone_pre.htm Sorry abuut the wrong location. The old gray matter isn't what it used to be. Have a great day. Jim, AB0UK K2/100 S/N 4787 On Mar 22, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Jim Harris wrote: > I use a preamp with my non K2 mics when using them > with the K2. I got the preamp schematic from Don > Wilhelms website. (He offers tremendous > troubleshooting advice here on this forum.) The site > URL is http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com/ >I couldn't find a schematic for a pre-amp on this web >site. (I found >a bunch of other stuff, though) Could you cite the >actual circuit you >used? Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 - data mode r bar
On Mar 23, 2006, at 9:35 AM, Bob Towers wrote: How come data mode r bar is LSB when USB is the default for all bands and data modes? Shouldn't data mode r be USB, not LSB? Classic RTTY AFSK uses LSB, not USB. You'd have to reverse the tones to use USB. You can set up R and R-bar to be whichever sideband you want -- but I suggest LSB and USB, respectively. I use R for RTTY and R-bar for PSK31. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT
We've been thru this before gentlemen. In a VERY busy contest, there ain't no such thing as "a single frequency" There is signals every 20-50 Hz! The BIG 160 meter contests are examples of this. If you are a "DXer", how many times have you succeeded with only a 'single' call in a big pileup? You may have to send your call a bunch of times,and/or be running a bunch of power. If someone calls me just a single time and I send "QRZ", I expect the other chap to have enough sense to send his call at least 2-3 times. Usually because static is the culprit or two or more callers QRMing each other. Either way you gotta repeat the call. In a contest, the highly abbreviated procedures are commonplace, but I still say it is lazyness or stupidity to apply the same logic to an answer to an everyday CQ call. Whoever isn't familiar with the "protocol", it would behoove him to certainly learn it. What's the problem with that? It's just simple manners, like for example; Like learning not to pass gas loudly in church or on a crowded bus. (to cite a rather crude, but typical situation) If ARRL no longer teaches good operating skills, find out from an old timer, what they are. Sorry for the tirade, but I feel very strongly about this and think it a VERY large mistake that ARRL saw fit to take this section out of the "Handbook". Maybe its because there are more "LIDS" than "A1" operators in Newington now? 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: "Bill Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Sandy W5TVW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is CW a Language? OT | | On Feb 8, 2006, at 10:49 AM, Sandy W5TVW wrote: | | > | However, these days, operating zero-beat on a single frequency, the | > | long call is just a waste of time. You call CQ DE W5TVW K. I'll | > | answer AA4LR on the same frequency. Where's the confusion? | > | > Perhaps no confusion to you, the sending operator, but a | > possible bit | > of confusion to the operator who called CQ! | | I and many others have THOUSANDS of successful CW QSOs using these | techniques. | | > Firstly, let's assume you have imperfect propagation conditions: | > fading, static, | > whatever. You might miss my call or get it confused if I sent it | > just once. | | On 160m and sometimes 80m, perhaps I'll double the call to AA4LR AA4LR. | | If you only get part of it, you'll send the part you got: 4LR. I'll | respond with my full call again: AA4LR AA4LR. The more times we | repeat this, the more times I'll repeat my call. | | > Anything else might likely lead to asking | > you to repeat your callsign, which takes up even more time? | | The point is, especially in a contest, the vast majority of the time, | the first call works. And this protocol works well when there are | multiple callers, too. | | > Just a one time sent callsign IS bad operating practice and | > operating manners. | | Some of the very best operators I know are contesters, and they ALL | do this. It can't possibly be a "bad practice". | | > Contest conditions are usually frantic, crowded and many times | > plain RUDE. | | Well, that's true. | | > Such things as sections/states and unique member | > numbers are exchanged. In the peak of the QRM/QSB I usually always | > send State and my number TWICE. | | This is kinda a "QRP" mentality -- "I'm weak and in the noise, I | better be redundant." That's not always so. Low power and QRP | stations can have formidable and readable signals, given reasonable | antennas and fair to good conditions. | | In some cases, such redundancy may be helpful, like on 160m. But, | mostly, it just wastes time. | | > Otherwise, you | > have to ask for a repeat which wastes more time. | | Fills can be done quickly and efficiently, too. | | > | The old "Novice Accent" advice was to do 3x3x3 - CQ CQ CQ DE W1ABC | > | W1ABC W1ABC repeated three times. Again, that was with a lot of guys | > | still rock-bound. These days, a single 3x3 with a few seconds of | > | listening seems more appropriate. | > | | > I agree LOONG CQ calls or doing a 3 X 3 format three times | > IS...repeat IS a waste of time and "overkill". Do the 3 X 3 and wait | > 15-60 seconds and repeat the call. | | We do agree on this! | | > We still have a few people who | > have "vintage" transmitters that are crystal controlled, but sadly | > very few people who "tune around", even a couple of kHz. with | > the RIT control. | | Or open up the filter bandwidth, at least. | | > Anyway, the sum of it is, nobody seems like they are teaching ANY | > really good operating practices anymore. | | And we agree here, too. | | | Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" | -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG
RE: [Elecraft] Is a K2 Realignment Advisable
Jim Harris wrote: > 1. Recently I've noticed when it is initially turned > on the received frequency is about 100 hz high judged > by the pitch of people's voices that I know. After > 20-30 minutes they drift to near exact frequency. And Bill, AA4LR replied: I had this sort of problem before I installed the PLL and BFO stability mods. Your K2 may be recent enough to have come with these modifications. Bill offers excellent comments and replies. I happened to turn my K2 on early today to check WWV at 10 MHz. Within a minute of turning it on, I was listening to WWV and the dial read 40 Hz high: 1.04. (See below* for my method of finding Zero Beat in SSB mode if you're curious) A half hour later zero beat was exactly at 1.00 kHz I just checked it now, about 11 hours later and it's still at 1.00 kHz I've found that typical since adding the BFO and PLL Reference Oscillator (L.O.) stability mods. It isn't always 10,000.00 kHz, but within 10 or 20 Hz of the right frequency. If you're seeing a 100 Hz shift, I suspect you're missing one or the other of the two oscillator mods - perhaps both. The rigs varied a lot before the changes were made. Ron AC7AC *SSB "Zero Beat": Tune in WWV in either upper or lower sideband mode so it sounds "close" then press/hold CW RV to change instantly to the other sideband. (That button works in SSB as well as CW). If you aren't exactly on frequency, you'll hear the pitch of the tone jump up or down. Tune in 10 Hz steps until you hear the direction of the jump change. For example, when I switch from L to H, I may hear the tone go up in pitch. So I increment the frequency 10 Hz higher, then switch from L to H again. If the pitch goes even higher, I went the wrong way, so I tune 20 Hz lower. Change from L to H again and see if the tone goes up or down. Now it should definitely go down. Tune down another 10 Hz and switch from L to H again. Keep this up until suddenly the tone jumps up instead of down in pitch. That means that I just passed the optimum tuning point. Either zero beat was the last 10 Hz point or it's between 10 Hz points. Note that every time I switch sidebands the SAME direction: L or low to H or high. You can go either way, just make sure you switch back before checking at the next frequency! You don't have to match tones. You only need to be able to tell that the tone shifted direction and whether it went up or down. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 and MacOS
On Apr 12, 2006, at 6:05 AM, Robert Allbright wrote: Out of curiosity I am wondering how many of you are users of MacOS? (I'm using OSX 10.4.6) on my G5 iMAC MacOS X rocks! I use my macs whenever I can. (I have an old Sawtooth and carry my 12" PB G4 1 GHz into the shack to use Cocoamodem) I bought my wife an iBook two years ago, and she's become completely inseparable from it. It changed her life. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K2 and MacOS
Yup. Me too: G5. I only use the PC when I have to write firmware or run hardware modeling software. Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: T1 review in AR magazine
Hi Chris, Appreciate your efforts. Please post a link to the article if it's available on-line. 73, Wayne N6KR chris meagher wrote: An article written by myself on constructing the T1 tuner, has been published in the April issue of Amateur Radio Magazine (Australia). --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
