Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3
I am desparately hoping to take delivery of my K3 before Christmas (although now feel this is unlikely) but I agree with you both. The list is now out of hand. Disappointingly this is mainly due to a small group of established Elecrafters who believe they own the list and can/should start and contribute to any discussion whether it is relevant or not. Everytime I come back to my computer there are at least 30 irrelevant emails. Not only am I totally frustrated with the lack of progress on my K3 and I am now extremely disturbed at the lack of discipline on this Reflector. I am seriously considering cancelling my order due to to the combined effects of both. Chris G3SJJ Andreas Hofmann wrote: Ditto, traffic from elecraft email list is getting out of hand with K3 support emails IMHO... 73, Andy (KU7T, ex Y38WF, ex DL6UST) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Krister Eriksson Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:23 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3 Yes! I do completely agree, I would also like to see a separate list for the K3. I am *not* interested in K3 at all, I have now only the K1, and I do have serious plans to buy and build a K2, possibly during the late end of 2008 .. so, for that reason I am only interested in reading posts and getting information regarding the K1 and K2. Today I am receiving the list in a digest, coming 2-4 times each day in my mailbox, and 96% of the content is about K3, this is just too much for me .. I have several times considered to send an unsubscribe message to this list, but decided to bear and stay.. 73 / SM5KRI Chris -- Hamradio: SM5KRI Krister Eriksson, Västerås Sweden [quote] Message: 35 Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:53:16 -0500 From: B. Scott Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I am wondering if it might be appropriate to consider splitting the Elecraft list into two lists: one for the K3 and one for all other Elecraft offerings (K1, K2, KX1, mini-modules, etc.). Except for perhaps transverters, which could have issues on both lists, the division would be beneficial to the non-K3 users who must now sift though the hundreds of K3 postings for a few morsels of K2 or K1 notes. [[end quote]] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3
Marteinn Sverrisson wrote: Hi If you feel that the list is out of hands, then do as I did long ago, unsubscribe and just read the MARC list archives, subjects are neatly sorted and grouped. No clogging of your Mail inbox. A much better alternative was shown to me the other day, it is at http://www.nabble.com/Elecraft-f28632.html . If you subscribe using the same email address you are subscribed to the reflector with, you can post directly from this without any cutting and pasting, as I am doing right now. Another possibility is to open a free Gmail account. Gmail has excellent filtering and you can set it up to highlight the posts that contain the terms you are interested in and mark as read the rest. With 2GB of storage you will also build up your own personal archive for searching. Finally I would mention (again) the Elecraft forums at http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php which were set up as a response to complaints like this. The forums are not very active because it seems the majority are actually happy with the reflector as it is, plus Elecraft's unwillingness to participate, but they *do* fulfil the objective of splitting the traffic into topics of specific interest, as you'll see if you take a look. Julian, G4ILO -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Separate-list-for-K3-tf4948222.html#a14168067 Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3
Sorry you feel that way Chris, but if you do decide to cancel your K3 order (which I am sure you won't) then please give me an opportunity to buy it from you first! Thanks and 161 de Chris, N4CJ (G4BUE) On 5 Dec 2007 at 8:23, G3SJJ wrote: I am desparately hoping to take delivery of my K3 before Christmas (although now feel this is unlikely) but I agree with you both. The list is now out of hand. Disappointingly this is mainly due to a small group of established Elecrafters who believe they own the list and can/should start and contribute to any discussion whether it is relevant or not. Everytime I come back to my computer there are at least 30 irrelevant emails. Not only am I totally frustrated with the lack of progress on my K3 and I am now extremely disturbed at the lack of discipline on this Reflector. I am seriously considering cancelling my order due to to the combined effects of both. Chris G3SJJ Andreas Hofmann wrote: Ditto, traffic from elecraft email list is getting out of hand with K3 support emails IMHO... 73, Andy (KU7T, ex Y38WF, ex DL6UST) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Krister Eriksson Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:23 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3 Yes! I do completely agree, I would also like to see a separate list for the K3. I am *not* interested in K3 at all, I have now only the K1, and I do have serious plans to buy and build a K2, possibly during the late end of 2008 .. so, for that reason I am only interested in reading posts and getting information regarding the K1 and K2. Today I am receiving the list in a digest, coming 2-4 times each day in my mailbox, and 96% of the content is about K3, this is just too much for me .. I have several times considered to send an unsubscribe message to this list, but decided to bear and stay.. 73 / SM5KRI Chris -- Hamradio: SM5KRI Krister Eriksson, Västerås Sweden [quote] Message: 35 Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:53:16 -0500 From: B. Scott Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I am wondering if it might be appropriate to consider splitting the Elecraft list into two lists: one for the K3 and one for all other Elecraft offerings (K1, K2, KX1, mini-modules, etc.). Except for perhaps transverters, which could have issues on both lists, the division would be beneficial to the non-K3 users who must now sift though the hundreds of K3 postings for a few morsels of K2 or K1 notes. [[end quote]] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3
My solution is to filter out any email with K3 in the title. It all goes to a separate folder. The same goes for email with elecraft in the title. As a result, I have 3 in folders. The third has most of my non-radio communications in it. That is the folder I check daily. I also try to keep any responses short and infrequent. I use Thunderbird, but I assume other email programs have similar provisions. 73's, John AA0VE G4ILO wrote: Marteinn Sverrisson wrote: Hi If you feel that the list is out of hands, then do as I did long ago, unsubscribe and just read the MARC list archives, subjects are neatly sorted and grouped. No clogging of your Mail inbox. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2: VFO control voltage problem.
Hello. I know this has been covered before, but I could not find anything at this time. I have 7.56V on 30M, 20M, 17M, 12M and 10M both on low and high part of the bands. On 3.50MHz I can't get the VFO voltage above about 3V, same on 21MHz. On 7.0MHz I got aprox. 6V vhile on 7.3 I got aprox. 7,56V. I have re-checked the capacitors C71 to C74 and the values are corect. I have vound the transformer T5 as on the drawing and several pictures on the internet,but it seems like it migth need another turn or 2? 73 de Thomas LA3PNA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3
Marteinn Sverrisson wrote: Hi If you feel that the list is out of hands, then do as I did long ago, unsubscribe and just read the MARC list archives, subjects are neatly sorted and grouped. No clogging of your Mail inbox. G4ILO responded: A much better alternative was shown to me the other day, it is at http://www.nabble.com/Elecraft-f28632.html . If you subscribe using the same email address you are subscribed to the reflector with, you can post directly from this without any cutting and pasting, as I am doing right now. The nabble archive is fantastic! If you don't want email filling your inbox and want a well-organized view of the archives, take a minute to look at this and then register your email address so you can post. There is no excuse (except ignorance or laziness) for anyone not to use this as an alternative to the email list! 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Separate-list-for-K3-tf4948222.html#a14171812 Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 4 band or 2 band
Allan, OK, I am sending this direct, but also to the list - others may be interested even if it is not a K3 entry. Since you find 'b1' in the menu, the procedure is to press (hold) EDIT until the display changes - it should indicate 7.0, 10.0, 10.1, 14.0, 21.0 etc. Do you get that display? You should no longer be holding the EDIT button at this point - and the WPM+/WPM- buttons will allow you to select whichever band you want to have assigned to b1. After you have b1 set, tap the MENU button once to return to the 'b1' display, then you can tap the BAND button to change to 'b2' or b3 or b4 and set those in the same manner. Tell us what you observe in the display when you have trouble. 73, Don W3FPR Allan Glasdam wrote: Hope somebody on the net has time to help me with this problem: Band assignment 2 band . I find b1 (page 39 left coloumn) but cannot select another band holding EDIT and using WPM+/WPM-. Any hints where to start ?? Please off list as answers will drown in K3 ! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 vs. Tentec Omni-VII
Hi Everyone, Does anyone on the list have any sources of information - - better yet personal experience - - about how the new Tentec Omni-VII compares with the K3? Thanks es 73, Steve Banks K0PQ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] For those about to Rock....
I just finished my KX1. I live in Northern Japan (Misawa AB) and am happy to take this rig back country skiing as my mode of communication in case 'something goes... not as expected' My favorite snowboarding route in the hakkoda mountains (look it up on google earth) is always a good one for loosing some folks during the season. I dont plan on being one of them. Kick A** KG4FMW Hey, I can do CW now! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KAT2
Hi, Looking for a unbuilt KAT2 ? If you have one please let me know your price. Tnx es happy holidays to all. JIM WB8RTJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 06:22, Dave Yarnes wrote: If you don't use Outlook Express (or Windows Mail as it is called if you have Vista), you should check into it--or some similar program. You can sort your inbox into topics, and have your mail automatically, very neatly, filtered accordingly. It's not perfect, but it sure helps a bunch. I think pretty much all email programs can be set up to filter messages. For example I am running an old version of Ximian Evolution on a Linux computer. It's in the Tools Filters directory. I think Outlook calls it Rules. But for that to work, it's important for posters to remember to put K3, K2 or whatever in the subject line. I myself have been pretty absent-minded about this in the past - I'll try to do better in future. Al N1AL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Logging and sailing - PDA?
Note that windows for PDA's doesn't use the same executables (or even, I think, the same source), so the program almost certainly have to be ported. Given the scarcity of serial port solutions, it's unlikely the port to a PDA is a high priority. I could be wrong about all of this, of course, but I'm confident I'll be corrected if I'm not. I've used little Sony Picturebook computers that run real Windows 98 for much operation, and they'll do the trick. Look at http://www.elecraft.com/PictureGallery/newpics5/t32qs.jpg That's a ruggedized K2, MFJ-4125 and a Sony. I was using a PAR 20M EndFedZ strung along the low waterfront trees. I have a Palm TX, which I like a lot. 73, doug Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:49:31 + From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for second post on that Julian - this time I looked at it :-) I'm a Palm man really, but I have an old iPaq that was kinda permanent loan and I'd be interested in knowing if anyone gets this going with a K3. And then if anyone has Mac sync to get logs off - or maybe copy to SD card and take from there. On 5/12/07 16:39, G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: H. Cary III wrote: I'm going to be hamming and sailing in the Caribbean in March (St. Maarten and British Virgin Islands) and will take either my K2 or K3 with me. I logged by hand the last trip and don't want to do that again. I'm not wild about taking a laptop either. Has anyone had any luck with using something like a PDA with a logging program and portable keyboard? Take a look at CTR-Remote (http://ctr-remote.home.att.net/CTR-Remote.htm). It supports the K2. I've never actually used it for logging, but having searched for ham software for PDAs, I think that's all there is. - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- The high minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think. -Aristotle, philosopher (384-322 BCE) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3
I would like everyone considering cancelling thier K3 order due to any reason to do so at once. I may yet get my very own K3 by Xmas. I think my serial number may already have decreased by one or two. 73 Rick Dettinger K7MW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Tentec Omni-VII
Another way to ask the question: Is there any area, feature, capability where the Omni VII is better than the K3? - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - - K3 Wave 3 - -Original Message- Does anyone on the list have any sources of information - - better yet personal experience - - about how the new Tentec Omni-VII compares with the K3? Thanks es 73, Steve Banks K0PQ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3
On Wednesday 05 December 2007 12:40:42 Alan Bloom wrote: I think pretty much all email programs can be set up to filter messages. For example I am running an old version of Ximian Evolution on a Linux computer. I have just set my KMail filter to send email from this list containing K3 in the subject or body of text to /dev/null Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962 -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Rick Dettinger wrote: I would like everyone considering cancelling thier K3 order due to any reason to do so at once. I may yet get my very own K3 by Xmas. I think my serial number may already have decreased by one or two. Why not sweeten the deal and send them their deposit? They can reimburse you when it's received from Aptos. At some point you could offer the dposit + xx premium to move up the list. 73 - k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3
Thanks to all who responded both on the list and off.
For the record, I am an extremely happy Elecraft
customer and believe that the Aptos team has
performed admirably. They have been extremely generous
by giving us visibility into their rollout. For those of us
who are used to being early adopters it has been a great
ride. For others, uncomfortable on the razor's edge,
there has been some gnashing of teeth, with some of it,
sadly, expressed here.
I would be mortified if my suggestion here were
misinterpreted as anything but a mechanical change
to the list. There is a firehose of information. I was
just looking for a way to better manage it now and
in the future. My concern was simple: if this level of
traffic is maintained with just a hundred or so radios
in the field, what will the list look like after the 1000th
has shipped?!
As per a suggestion I am now posting from www.nabble.com
I second the motion that this is an interesting alternative to
receiving the multiple bulk message digests each day. While
it does not address the crux of the problem I raised, it does
provide a nice viewer for absorbing the list off-line.
-- Scott (NE1RD... who finished _2_ K1s in November {hooray}!)
B. Scott Andersen wrote:
I am wondering if it might be appropriate to consider splitting the
Elecraft list into two lists: one for the K3 and one for all other
Elecraft offerings (K1, K2, KX1, mini-modules, etc.).
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Tentec Omni-VII
Off the top of my head, Omni 7 has a big beautiful display and has TCP/IP ethernet remoting built into it. To my eyes, these are two VERY different radios. Why don't you download both manuals from the mfr's Web sites and compare for yourself? 73, Barry N1EU Another way to ask the question: Is there any area, feature, capability where the Omni VII is better than the K3? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-vs.-Tentec-Omni-VII-tf4950627.html#a14179228 Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Logging and sailing - PDA?
Check out http://home.mchsi.com/~k0pc/K2Logger.htm I still run it on a palm 105. Nice thing is that all you need is a 105 ( used for about $20 ) and the sync stand that comes with it. Add a null converter or null cable and it plugs right into the K2 data port. pic is here ;http://users.erols.com/tjmc/k2palm.jpg The prgm has user setup hot buttons for cw sending and reads/can change the freq of the K2 when logging. best Tom aa2vk ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft email List Official Guidelines - Dec 5, 2007
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[Elecraft] Regarding the K3, PW-1 and ALC
This came across the Icom list a few minutes ago, and I took a look. Look for yourself at page 35 of the referenced document, but I'll quote it, too. Non-Icom radios may or may not use the ALC feature. It is recommended to not use ALC with a non-Icom radio and to control the power manually on the radio. So, if you want to follow Icom's recommendation for the PW-1, the question of the K3's ALC level is moot. I'm amused, frankly. Thanks Dick. I suspect it'd be easy to use a PIC (as in PICAXE, even) to translate the K3's frequency messages to Icom's CIV equivalents. If someone will give me a PW-1 (to keep), I'll do it!!! 8-) I'm just waiting for it to start raining to do the K3 to IC2KL band select hack. 73, doug From: Dick Dievendorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:23:12 -0800 Try this: http://icomamerica.com/en/support/kb/Article.aspx?ArticleNumber=615A26584A There's a place where you want to turn off the transceiver that isn't immediately obvious from the PW-1 instruction manual. Dick, K6KR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Logging and sailing - PDA?
Thanks for second post on that Julian - this time I looked at it :-) I'm a Palm man really, but I have an old iPaq that was kinda permanent loan and I'd be interested in knowing if anyone gets this going with a K3. And then if anyone has Mac sync to get logs off - or maybe copy to SD card and take from there. On 5/12/07 16:39, G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: H. Cary III wrote: I'm going to be hamming and sailing in the Caribbean in March (St. Maarten and British Virgin Islands) and will take either my K2 or K3 with me. I logged by hand the last trip and don't want to do that again. I'm not wild about taking a laptop either. Has anyone had any luck with using something like a PDA with a logging program and portable keyboard? Take a look at CTR-Remote (http://ctr-remote.home.att.net/CTR-Remote.htm). It supports the K2. I've never actually used it for logging, but having searched for ham software for PDAs, I think that's all there is. - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- The high minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think. -Aristotle, philosopher (384-322 BCE) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Logging and sailing - PDA?
H. Cary III wrote: I'm going to be hamming and sailing in the Caribbean in March (St. Maarten and British Virgin Islands) and will take either my K2 or K3 with me. I logged by hand the last trip and don't want to do that again. I'm not wild about taking a laptop either. Has anyone had any luck with using something like a PDA with a logging program and portable keyboard? Take a look at CTR-Remote (http://ctr-remote.home.att.net/CTR-Remote.htm). It supports the K2. I've never actually used it for logging, but having searched for ham software for PDAs, I think that's all there is. - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Logging-and-sailing---PDA--tf4950740.html#a14175335 Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 filters
Simple answer - no, but I'll look at this when I get time. At the moment I prefer MP3 and wave files. Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Nick Lidakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have any of you considered using FLAC to encode these files? It would afford much greater fidelity at the expense of a slightly larger file. And for much larger files one could set up a torrent. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] loss of sidetone on K2-100
recently lost my sidetone on my K2 -100 and have replaced the following U10 LMC660, Q5 2n7000,U8MAX534 and have ordered replacement caps for C33 and C32 other than that the only alternative is to paint it ..have checked tthe output of U6 and theres the 2.5 volt but no voltage on the drain of q5 and no voltages on the other test points that are shown on the troubleshooting section...sure cud use some help with this problem..John K1GUN... ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] loss of sidetone on K2-100
John, Have you tried the following? Go into Primary Menu and select Set (tone) Level, ST L Tap the display...your tone should come back. 73, Joe, aa4nn - Original Message - From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: [Elecraft] loss of sidetone on K2-100 recently lost my sidetone on my K2 -100 and have replaced the following U10 LMC660, Q5 2n7000,U8MAX534 and have ordered replacement caps for C33 and C32 other than that the only alternative is to paint it ..have checked tthe output of U6 and theres the 2.5 volt but no voltage on the drain of q5 and no voltages on the other test points that are shown on the troubleshooting section...sure cud use some help with this problem..John K1GUN... ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [KX1] Contesting with the KX1 on CQWW CW
Hi QRPers, Apologies to those who read it on QRP-L already... I thought I'd share my recent experiences with the KX1 on the DX contest with the Elecraft list. I had great success using the KX1 on the CQWW contest over Thanksgiving. My station was in the spirit of KE9V's anti-shack: the KX1 on the dining room table, and a temporary inverted vee in a tree. The station packed into one pouch of my computer carry-on bag on the plane. Summary: 31 countries/entities worked 5 continents 14 zones Best DX: Northern Finland, Canary Islands, Argentina, Hawaii I packed up the KX1 and a DWM Yo-Yo dipole antenna in my computer carry-on and took it on the plane with me from California to Chicago for Thanksgiving. My plan was to set the KX1 up on the dining room table, string up a wire antenna in the backyard, and operate during the downtime between family visits. The yo-yo antenna went up and was tuned in about 30 minutes. I marked off the lengths for 20M and 40M with tape on the wire, and reeled to get a 1:1 match. The KX1 ATU was not necessary. The SWR bridge on the KX1 worked great to tune the antenna quickly. I could take the KX1 out to the backyard with me, attach the coax, and tune on the spot - with the same coax and rig I'd be using for the contest. Pretty simple. I highly recommend the yo-yo dipole antenna for portable operation. Packs nicely, easy to deploy, and easy to tune. One observation is that the length to unwind to get 1:1 was quite a bit shorter than the 5% shorter rule for inverted vees. My guess is that the wound wire in the yo-yos at the ends acts as a little bit of loading. My final correction factor was about 9-10% shorter than 234/Fo. Before I left for the trip, I found a tiny wall-wart 12V switching supply at Halted that supplies 1.25A and weighs just a couple ounces. It gives me 4W out on the KX1, and packs well in the computer bag. The KX1 worked flawlessly in the contest. I tried both the KX1 paddles and the palm paddles, and found the palm to do a little better at 25-30 WPM. Not that I am that fast in regular QSOs, but it helps to be able to send fast to sneak in the holes. The variable bandwidth filter was perfect for quickly filtering QRM. I found that if I could copy a station pretty well, he would hear me. Often I'd need to time my call to be in the hole between stronger stations, and sometimes it took several calls to get it in. But if you listen to how the DX is working the calls, wait for the stronger stations to get theirs, then I found that you get your report in just a couple calls. I also played a little bit with my on-air signals on DxTuners.com. I have a subscription there where I can tune in receivers around the country and world. I could copy myself fine in Pittsburgh, so I played with cutting my power and observing what happens. Bottom line was that I could hear almost no difference between 4W on external power, and 1.5W from internal AA batteries. Both were about a 559. For those of you who (like me) try to squeeze every last dB from your QRP system, I recommend this exercise. You quickly learn that the difference between 1.5W and 4W is not a big deal. So after this little exercise, I switched to internal batteries, and found I had about the same success rate in working the DX. Working Hawaii from Chicago on 40M with a low vee and 1.5W was pretty exciting. In one stretch on Sunday, I worked North America, South America, Europe, Africa, and Oceana within about 1 hour of each other on 20M, all with 1.5W. I have to say that this little stunt of the anti-shack on CQWW showed me how fun and effective the KX1 and a dipole can be in a contest. 73, Mike N9OHW Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 filters
Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote: OK, Actually I can make good quality MP3 files using some dodgy software I came across - will post back later. At the moment there's only 40m available... Slightly off topic but... Have any of you considered using FLAC to encode these files? It would afford much greater fidelity at the expense of a slightly larger file. And for much larger files one could set up a torrent. Just a thought. Nick N2SVT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K3] USB host development kit
I just ran across this, and it made me think of the folks who want to save configs on a memory stick: http://www.compsys1.com/html/usb_host_kit.html It's crude, but it *appears* to have the pieces that will take RS232 control lines and allow you to read/write on a thumb drive. Might be an easy way to get very specific USB connectivity in a K3... 73 de chris K6DBG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] questions about the ATUs
I ordered a K2 and a K3 and fancy other Elecraft kits, too hi. But the K2 is on back order for a few more days, so the question about the ATUs arose. Would you recommend each rig to have its own ATU? A fairly resonant antenna won't need tuning, right? Would the T-1 handle end fed wires okay? I just came across some zig-zag design which is supposed to be superior to normal verticals. And my QTH is an old farm with a wood attic so I could string some zig-zag wire under the roof... hi Here is the link, sorry it's not in English: http://www.antenna-engineering.de/Kap.39_Zig_Zag_Vertikal_fuer_KW..html Thank you! 73, Chris Kf6vci / Hs0zfe ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Test
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[Elecraft] Logging and sailing - PDA?
I'm going to be hamming and sailing in the Caribbean in March (St. Maarten and British Virgin Islands) and will take either my K2 or K3 with me. I logged by hand the last trip and don't want to do that again. I'm not wild about taking a laptop either. Has anyone had any luck with using something like a PDA with a logging program and portable keyboard? Be nice if the K3 had a logging program built into it and a portable keyboard for entry but that's wishful thinking! I expect to hear from Lisa any day now, having ordered on May 2nd... Any ideas? 73, Cary, K4TM Lynchburg, VA K2-100 #5266 K3-100 #200 waiting expectantly ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2: VFO control voltage problem.
Thomas, What is the voltage when you tune to 4000 kHz? That is the starting point for adjustment and it should be near 6 volts. After obtaining 6 volts at 4000 kHz, do a quick check at 7000 kHz - that voltage should be in the 1.5 to 2.2 volt range if all is well. After that, check the other band edges. If the voltages do not fall in line as above, you have some troubleshooting to do. In addition to T5, check the varactors to be certain they are the correct ones in the correct places, and that everything is soldered well. If you still have trouble, measure the VCO frequency with the internal counter probe connected to TP1 when you tune to 4000kHz and when tuned to 3.5 MHz and let us know what those frequency readings are as well as the corresponding R30 voltages. 73, Don W3FPR Thomas wrote: Hello. I know this has been covered before, but I could not find anything at this time. I have 7.56V on 30M, 20M, 17M, 12M and 10M both on low and high part of the bands. On 3.50MHz I can't get the VFO voltage above about 3V, same on 21MHz. On 7.0MHz I got aprox. 6V vhile on 7.3 I got aprox. 7,56V. I have re-checked the capacitors C71 to C74 and the values are corect. I have vound the transformer T5 as on the drawing and several pictures on the internet,but it seems like it migth need another turn or 2? 73 de Thomas LA3PNA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Test
You passed F5VJC wrote: - . ... - - 73 de M0XDF FISTS #12575 :working: Waiting for Elecraft K3 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Test-tf4949914.html#a14172451 Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Test
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] Contesting with the KX1 on CQWW CW
On 05/12/2007, Michael Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also played a little bit with my on-air signals on DxTuners.com. I have a subscription there where I can tune in receivers around the country and world. I could copy myself fine in Pittsburgh, so I played with cutting my power and observing what happens. Bottom line was that I could hear almost no difference between 4W on external power, and 1.5W from internal AA batteries. Both were about a 559. For those of you who (like me) try to squeeze every last dB from your QRP system, I recommend this exercise. You quickly learn that the difference between 1.5W and 4W is not a big deal. Anyone who has a K2 and a broadband connection can make it accessible from the internet using the K2Net software on my site. You can allow anyone to connect as a guest or give password access to your friends. I tried this with PA3CW a couple of years ago and it was very interesting seeing how my signal sounded over there, or comparing what beacons he could hear at his QTH with what I was hearing from mine. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3
Or do what I have done, put mail rules in place to discard anything with K1, KX1 or K2 in the subject that comes from Elecraft - that hits about 80% of non-K3 related mail. Sorry, I'm one of those filling the list with K3 stuff. Eric has made it quite clear they do not wish to split the list, so lets not start that thread all over again and fill the list more, please. On 5/12/07 08:44, Marteinn Sverrisson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: If you feel that the list is out of hands, then do as I did long ago, unsubscribe and just read the MARC list archives, subjects are neatly sorted and grouped. -- Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right. -Isaac Asimov, scientist and writer (1920-1992) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ...
Limited quantities of standard (one meter long) K3 cables for the microHAM DigiKeyer and microHAM microKEYER/microKEYER II/MK2R are now in stock at www.microHAM-USA.com. For DigiKeyer cables: www.microHAM-USA.com/Products/DK/cables.html For microKEYER cables: www.microHAM-USA.com/Products/MK/cables.html Those in Europe may obtain cables from www.microHAM.com. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 review
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6673 Nice review - couldn't have said it better. P.S. Maybe there is a market niche for K3 dribble bibs. Tom, AK2B ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3
You know, as frustrated as you and some others are about the reflector being clogged with K3 stuff currently, many of us are equally frustrated by the constant complaining about the reflector. They want to shape it to their specific parameters, which ignores, to a great extent, what the rest want. Elecraft provides this reflector for its products and product users (and user wannabe's). They also do a pretty darn good job of monitoring and controlling its content. But the key is that this is the Elecraft reflector, not the K1, or K2, or K3 reflector, etc. Remember, Eric has to monitor this stuff, and it would be wrong to make him chase all over to, and manage, different reflectors to do so. It certainly would complicate his task. A lot of very good suggestions have been given on how to deal with issues where someone wants to cut down on the inflow to one's inbox. Instead of complaining (and clogging up the inbox of others even more), why not actually TRY one of these suggestions? Most importantly, it's not required that you get each piece of mail separately. I use the digest form frequently for that very reason, and switch to individual messages when it is more important to be closer to real time receipt of the messages. If you don't use Outlook Express (or Windows Mail as it is called if you have Vista), you should check into it--or some similar program. You can sort your inbox into topics, and have your mail automatically, very neatly, filtered accordingly. It's not perfect, but it sure helps a bunch. If you don't feel like your topic preferences are being adequately dealt with, try starting your own reflector! Yahoo makes that a very simple task. You will find out soon enough whether many others share your feelings. The point is that people should be a little more proactive about solving their own problems--especially when there are tools already provided which allow them to do so. Don't expect Elecraft to jump through all kinds of hoops to cater to individual preferences. Quit sitting on your hands, and do what you can do to solve your concerns! Finally, if you have some issue with the way Elecraft is handling it's business, your email should be to them and not the reflector. I think it is very counterproductive to start a bitch session here and try to stir up the troops. If you have a legitimate problem or question, which I consider to be one which the group may be able to help you solve, that is probably appropriate. This is NOT the Customer Service reflector. It's not that I don't appreciate your frustration--we all have probably experienced some of it along the line--it's just that we can't help you! Elecraft is not doing things perfectly, but you will be hard pressed to find any other ham radio company which is trying harder to effectively deal with issues as they arise. How many companies like this do we have where you are basically on a first name basis with all of the principals? But not everyone will be satisfied with this effort. When it bugs you more than you can stand, you should try talking to them directly. Chances are you will get a very well reasoned response in due time. So please, just give it some thought before you create more frustration for yourself by not taking the most effective action. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: G3SJJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Separate list for K3 I am desparately hoping to take delivery of my K3 before Christmas (although now feel this is unlikely) but I agree with you both. The list is now out of hand. Disappointingly this is mainly due to a small group of established Elecrafters who believe they own the list and can/should start and contribute to any discussion whether it is relevant or not. Everytime I come back to my computer there are at least 30 irrelevant emails. Not only am I totally frustrated with the lack of progress on my K3 and I am now extremely disturbed at the lack of discipline on this Reflector. I am seriously considering cancelling my order due to to the combined effects of both. Chris G3SJJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K1 4 band or 2 band
Hope somebody on the net has time to help me with this problem: Band assignment 2 band . I find b1 (page 39 left coloumn) but cannot select another band holding EDIT and using WPM+/WPM-. Any hints where to start ?? Please off list as answers will drown in K3 ! 73 Allan 5Q8A ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Regarding the K3, PW-1 and ALC
Boy, I'm OK-- I did buy the amp in 06. I guess I am already thinking it is 08--I think I will just hit my head against the wall a few more times and keep my hands off the keyboard. WA8EBM Very interesting. That document sure wasn't known to me when I bought my PW-1 last year '07 and it has a '06 publication date ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Regarding the K3, PW-1 and ALC
I've never used a PW-1, but I do know some people who think the combination with a 756 or 7800 makes a really nice 1 kw transceiver setup. And Icom does have an agenda in that document- it's to their advantage to make using the PW-1 with other manufacturers transceivers inconvenient. If I had a PW-1, I suspect I'd be less likely to move whole-heartedly to the K3. But that document seems to refute the statements about the necessity for ALC with solid-state amps. I know I've used a IC-2KL without ALC, on the advice of others who've done so. And the Ten-Tec Hercules II has no provision for ALC at all (although TenTec likes transmit interlock). OTOH, when I build my IC-2KL amp interface box, I'll make provision for ALC circuitry, too, and think about using it. 73, doug From: Mike Penkas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 20:08:34 -0800 Boy, I'm OK-- I did buy the amp in 06. I guess I am already thinking it is 08--I think I will just hit my head against the wall a few more times and keep my hands off the keyboard. WA8EBM Very interesting. That document sure wasn't known to me when I bought my PW-1 last year '07 and it has a '06 publication date ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Separate list for K3
Hi If you feel that the list is out of hands, then do as I did long ago, unsubscribe and just read the MARC list archives, subjects are neatly sorted and grouped. No clogging of your Mail inbox. To post to the list, just make an entry for elecraft@mailman.qth.net in you address book or whatever you use, and cut and paste the subject ... 73, Matti -- Marteinn SverrissonTF3MA Langitangi 2Internet: tf3ma [at] raunvis [dot] hi [dot] is 270 Mosfellsbær http://www.raunvis.hi.is/~tf3ma Iceland ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Regarding the K3, PW-1 and ALC
Very interesting. That document sure wasn't known to me when I bought my PW-1 last year '07 and it has a '06 publication date. So much for Icom keeping their customers up to date. My manual says no such thing. Anyways I now remember correspondence I had with Elecraft regarding using the KRC-2 with the PW-1 and it not being compatible so I just forgot about it and ran the low power K2 with the PW-1 with no problems and manual band change. I think I will just forget the whole idea and wait and buy a new Solid State amplifier when one comes out that is made to work with the K3 and just use my tube amp with the K3 for the present time--which by the way works superbly. When that amp comes out someone will get a good deal on my PRO3/PW1 setup. Mike WA8EBM Non-Icom radios may or may not use the ALC feature. It is recommended to not use ALC with a non-Icom radio and to control the power manually on the radio. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Logging and sailing - PDA?
Take a look at http://www.g4fon.net/QSO%20Diary.htm If you've got a Palm On 5/12/07 16:22, H. Cary III [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I'm going to be hamming and sailing in the Caribbean in March (St. Maarten and British Virgin Islands) and will take either my K2 or K3 with me. I logged by hand the last trip and don't want to do that again. I'm not wild about taking a laptop either. Has anyone had any luck with using something like a PDA with a logging program and portable keyboard? Be nice if the K3 had a logging program built into it and a portable keyboard for entry but that's wishful thinking! I expect to hear from Lisa any day now, having ordered on May 2nd... Any ideas? 73, Cary, K4TM Lynchburg, VA K2-100 #5266 K3-100 #200 waiting expectantly -- Dear God, Did you mean for the giraffe to look like that or was it an accident? -Norma [Children's Letters to God, 1991] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Regarding the K3, PW-1 and ALC
HI Doug and all, That is indeed interesting. I have seen that document many times and never noticed that. In the PW1's owners manual almost every page comments how important ALC is to prevent damage to the PW1 using both Icom and non Icom rigs. Having owned a PW1 and setting up about a half a dozen or so around the area here, I well tell you it only takes 28 watts to run 1KW out on the PW1. All of them I have setup run ALC and no problems so far. One of them runs a TS850 along with a Pro 3, but both are using ALC. The 7800 is at the limit of the PW1's ALC range, but works great. Since the PW1 will run over 1KW with as little of 30 watts of drive I wouldn't think most guys spending nearly $5k would take a chance damaging it. I did see one PW1 run near 1.5KW when a guy didn't have ALC hooked up. I am not sure how long it would run like that before it went up in smoke, luckily he said it in time. If you look at the specs for the PW1 FET modules they are rating each at 300 watts (I've seen some sheets spec them out at 150 watts a pair). To get away with this they are using a huge heat sink and three fans for the PA section alone. In the end to each his own, but after having a lot of experience with this amp I wouldn't think of not running ALC. In the heat of chasing DX and even more so in contesting, I can not imagine any one not screwing up at least once. That is all it takes, trust me I know first hand! I know this doesn't have much to do with a K3, unless your are going to interface the two together. Many thanks and 73 de w5jay/jay.. This came across the Icom list a few minutes ago, and I took a look. Look for yourself at page 35 of the referenced document, but I'll quote it, too. Non-Icom radios may or may not use the ALC feature. It is recommended to not use ALC with a non-Icom radio and to control the power manually on the radio. So, if you want to follow Icom's recommendation for the PW-1, the question of the K3's ALC level is moot. I'm amused, frankly. Thanks Dick. I suspect it'd be easy to use a PIC (as in PICAXE, even) to translate the K3's frequency messages to Icom's CIV equivalents. If someone will give me a PW-1 (to keep), I'll do it!!! 8-) I'm just waiting for it to start raining to do the K3 to IC2KL band select hack. 73, doug From: Dick Dievendorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:23:12 -0800 Try this: http://icomamerica.com/en/support/kb/Article.aspx?ArticleNumber=615A26584A There's a place where you want to turn off the transceiver that isn't immediately obvious from the PW-1 instruction manual. Dick, K6KR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] WTB: K2
Looking for a fully loaded K2, do you have one setting on the desk not being used now that your K3 is here. Please let me know condition and price. I can pay cash, check, or paypal. Thanks, Kyle ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ...
Can you explain the note that says !!Must be used with MH2 MG2 or Proset-K2? It means that the cables (and microHAM interfaces for Elecraft) must be used with radios and microphones wired according to the Kenwood standard. The original K2 had programmable mic jumpers and the Elecraft cable sets would only work when the mic/radio were wired for the MH2, MG2 or Proset-K2. The K3 is hard wired for Kenwood style mics - the considerations are the same. OEM microphones (MH2, Proset-k2) or identically wired microphones must be used with the microham interfaces. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ... Joe - Can you explain the note that says !!Must be used with MH2 MG2 or Proset-K2? Does this mean I can not use it with the Heil Goldline with the dual elements? k4ia Craig Buck Fredericksburg, Virginia USA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ...
Rick, But Joe - the K3 has rear panel connectors that are far better for cabling to external boxes. Forget about the Kenwood standard 8-pin front panel mic connector! Make up your cables with standard phone and phono plugs and keep the clutter behind the rigs where it belongs. I don't see microHAM doing two versions of the K3 cable but it is up to the guys in Slovakia. According to the documentation in the K3 FAQ, there are some issues in not supporting the front panel mic connector. First is the inability to pass electret bias (Kenwood standard is bias on pin 6 and an RC network in the microphone as shown in the FAQ). The second is the lack of the up/down/function keys via the rear panel (when they are supported). Anyone who wants a clean front panel and does not need the added mic functions can always get a female cable mount Foster (CE8 at www.buxcomm.com) and make a short Foster to 1/8 and RCA pigtail to connect mic and PTT to the rear panel connectors or remove the Foster from the microHAM cable, clip the extra wires, put heat shrink on the two pairs (1 7 for mic, 2 8 for PTT) and install their own 1/8 and RCA connectors. This means that the standard Kenwood wired MH2 and Proset K2 (assuming they use the Heil iC cartridge) will not work with the rear panel connections since the microphone or AD-1 adapter should include the RC network. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ...
Joe, There are no issues with bias on either mic connection. The operator can select bias to be on or off for both the FP and RP mics. 73 Greg AB7R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:39 PM To: 'Rick Tavan N6XI' Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ... Rick, But Joe - the K3 has rear panel connectors that are far better for cabling to external boxes. Forget about the Kenwood standard 8-pin front panel mic connector! Make up your cables with standard phone and phono plugs and keep the clutter behind the rigs where it belongs. I don't see microHAM doing two versions of the K3 cable but it is up to the guys in Slovakia. According to the documentation in the K3 FAQ, there are some issues in not supporting the front panel mic connector. First is the inability to pass electret bias (Kenwood standard is bias on pin 6 and an RC network in the microphone as shown in the FAQ). The second is the lack of the up/down/function keys via the rear panel (when they are supported). Anyone who wants a clean front panel and does not need the added mic functions can always get a female cable mount Foster (CE8 at www.buxcomm.com) and make a short Foster to 1/8 and RCA pigtail to connect mic and PTT to the rear panel connectors or remove the Foster from the microHAM cable, clip the extra wires, put heat shrink on the two pairs (1 7 for mic, 2 8 for PTT) and install their own 1/8 and RCA connectors. This means that the standard Kenwood wired MH2 and Proset K2 (assuming they use the Heil iC cartridge) will not work with the rear panel connections since the microphone or AD-1 adapter should include the RC network. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.15/1173 - Release Date: 12/5/2007 9:29 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.15/1173 - Release Date: 12/5/2007 9:29 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Regarding the K3, PW-1 and ALC
And Icom does have an agenda in that document- it's to their advantage to make using the PW-1 with other manufacturers transceivers inconvenient. If I had a PW-1, I suspect I'd be less likely to move whole-heartedly to the K3. Of course the microHAM Band Decoder or microKEYER II, will automate the PW-1 with any computer controlled (controllable) radio. Band Decoder and microKEYER II both generate an Icom compatible transceive broadcast that can bandswitch the PW-1 automatically. Band Decoder can bandswitch the PW-1 and independently switch up to 10 antenna outputs as well. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ...
I was under the impression that the K3 was wired the same as Kenwoods for microphone usage. However, In checking the Heil website, and the subsequent link for mike connections, they show that pin 5 is 8 V., whereas the K3 manual shows that pin 6 should have 8 V. Actually the website for Heil doesn't really show how the various adapters (I.E. for the Heil Traveler) are wired. It only links you to the website of G4WPW for a description of various pinouts for various rigs. What's the deal? Also, the K3 manual specifies a low impedence mike (600 ohms +/-). Nothing on the Heil website that I have found actually discusses what the impedence is for mikes like the Heil Traveler or Pro Set. I'm also curious why my Heil Pro Set headphones seem to have low output compared to other headphones on various rigs that I own. Anybody know what the impedence is for the headphones? Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ... Can you explain the note that says !!Must be used with MH2 MG2 or Proset-K2? It means that the cables (and microHAM interfaces for Elecraft) must be used with radios and microphones wired according to the Kenwood standard. The original K2 had programmable mic jumpers and the Elecraft cable sets would only work when the mic/radio were wired for the MH2, MG2 or Proset-K2. The K3 is hard wired for Kenwood style mics - the considerations are the same. OEM microphones (MH2, Proset-k2) or identically wired microphones must be used with the microham interfaces. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ... Joe - Can you explain the note that says !!Must be used with MH2 MG2 or Proset-K2? Does this mean I can not use it with the Heil Goldline with the dual elements? k4ia Craig Buck Fredericksburg, Virginia USA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ...
Dave, The pinout is the same. You can take a hand mic from a TS-870, 570 whatever and plug it into the K3 and it works fine. For electret mics, the K3 is capable of supplying bias on both the front and rear mic connections. For mics that are high impedance there's also a switchable level of gain for both mic connections. I use the proset and they work just fine. I also use a PR40 and that also works fine. The proceedure is to use the MIC SEL menu to choose the desired mic and use the 1 button to toggle the gain between hi and lo and the 2 button to toggle the bias. 73 Greg AB7R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Yarnes Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:51 PM To: Joe Subich, W4TV; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ... I was under the impression that the K3 was wired the same as Kenwoods for microphone usage. However, In checking the Heil website, and the subsequent link for mike connections, they show that pin 5 is 8 V., whereas the K3 manual shows that pin 6 should have 8 V. Actually the website for Heil doesn't really show how the various adapters (I.E. for the Heil Traveler) are wired. It only links you to the website of G4WPW for a description of various pinouts for various rigs. What's the deal? Also, the K3 manual specifies a low impedence mike (600 ohms +/-). Nothing on the Heil website that I have found actually discusses what the impedence is for mikes like the Heil Traveler or Pro Set. I'm also curious why my Heil Pro Set headphones seem to have low output compared to other headphones on various rigs that I own. Anybody know what the impedence is for the headphones? Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ... Can you explain the note that says !!Must be used with MH2 MG2 or Proset-K2? It means that the cables (and microHAM interfaces for Elecraft) must be used with radios and microphones wired according to the Kenwood standard. The original K2 had programmable mic jumpers and the Elecraft cable sets would only work when the mic/radio were wired for the MH2, MG2 or Proset-K2. The K3 is hard wired for Kenwood style mics - the considerations are the same. OEM microphones (MH2, Proset-k2) or identically wired microphones must be used with the microham interfaces. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ... Joe - Can you explain the note that says !!Must be used with MH2 MG2 or Proset-K2? Does this mean I can not use it with the Heil Goldline with the dual elements? k4ia Craig Buck Fredericksburg, Virginia USA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.15/1173 - Release Date: 12/5/2007 9:29 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.15/1173 - Release Date: 12/5/2007 9:29 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Substitution of stock 2.7 for the 2.8
I am looking for a consensus as to the value of switching the stock 2.7Khz for the 2.8Khz filter at time of order and paying the difference based on a $30 credit? I would like some input as to what the difference really is and what it would mean in terms of functionality. Additionally, if the 2.8 is that much better, why would it not be part of the basic radio offering visa vis the 2.7? Thanks Bob -- For Support Call Lakeshore, ON, Canada (519) 997-4574 Silicon Valley, CA, U.S.A.(408) 916-1119 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ...
I was under the impression that the K3 was wired the same as Kenwoods for microphone usage. However, In checking the Heil website, and the subsequent link for mike connections, they show that pin 5 is 8 V., whereas the K3 manual shows that pin 6 should have 8 V. Correct, I had not noticed the error but just compared the Elecraft FAQ vs. the TS-2000 manual and Elecraft show pin 6 for bias and pin 5 as Func while the TS-2000 manual shows pin 5 for bias and pin 6 as NC. This means that a Kenwood electret mic will not work with the K3 unless the microphone is modified. I'm also curious why my Heil Pro Set headphones seem to have low output compared to other headphones on various rigs that I own. Anybody know what the impedence is for the headphones? The original ProSet had 200 Ohm earphone drivers. A modification replaced those with 32 Ohm units (I think). The low output is due to the reduced output of most amplifiers when driving high impedance loads - Yaesu even includes 10 Ohm resistors in series with the headphones to prevent excess volume in the headphones! Of course, the higher impedance headphones (and series resistance) helps cut down the hum, hiss and distortion. 73, ... Joe, W4TV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ...
Joe, The Elecraft K3 manual shows pin 6 as 8 volts. This is *not* necessarily the mic element bias. The bias would be applied directly to pin 1 regardless of the use of pin 6. Remember that the addition of bias to the mic AF line is a function of the menu setting rather than an added resistor as in the K2. The voltage at pin 6 will not be turned off when the microphone bias is turned off in the menu. For use with the Elecraft MH2, MD2, and Proset K2, the requirement is for a voltage to be added (through a resistor) to the AF signal line. That same configuration *should* work for all electret mics that are similarly wired and do not have a capacitor in series with the AF line. Yes, the Elecraft mic pinout is different than Kenwood because Kenwood uses pin 5 for +8 volts and Elecraft uses pin 6. A Kenwood dynamic microphone having no preamplifier in the mic head will normally work just fine with the Elecraft pinout - but user be aware - you should know the pinout of any microphone you plan to connect. A Heil dynamic mic (usually HC4 or HC5 element) with a Kenwood adapter will work fine because neither pin 5 nor pin 6 are connected in the adapter. 73, Don W3FPR Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: I was under the impression that the K3 was wired the same as Kenwoods for microphone usage. However, In checking the Heil website, and the subsequent link for mike connections, they show that pin 5 is 8 V., whereas the K3 manual shows that pin 6 should have 8 V. Correct, I had not noticed the error but just compared the Elecraft FAQ vs. the TS-2000 manual and Elecraft show pin 6 for bias and pin 5 as Func while the TS-2000 manual shows pin 5 for bias and pin 6 as NC. This means that a Kenwood electret mic will not work with the K3 unless the microphone is modified. I'm also curious why my Heil Pro Set headphones seem to have low output compared to other headphones on various rigs that I own. Anybody know what the impedence is for the headphones? The original ProSet had 200 Ohm earphone drivers. A modification replaced those with 32 Ohm units (I think). The low output is due to the reduced output of most amplifiers when driving high impedance loads - Yaesu even includes 10 Ohm resistors in series with the headphones to prevent excess volume in the headphones! Of course, the higher impedance headphones (and series resistance) helps cut down the hum, hiss and distortion. 73, ... Joe, W4TV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ...
Greg, There are no issues with bias on either mic connection. That's may be the case if one is using an Elecraft microphone (or a computer headset in the rear panel). However, if one has a Heil or Kenwood electret wired to Kenwood's specification it will not work. The Heil/Kenwood will have a capacitor in series with pin 1 (Mic +) and a resistor to pin 5 (bias). The cap will block the Elecraft bias on pin 1 and fail to connect to +5/+8 on pin 6. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: AB7R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:41 PM To: Joe Subich, W4TV; 'Rick Tavan N6XI' Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ... Joe, There are no issues with bias on either mic connection. The operator can select bias to be on or off for both the FP and RP mics. 73 Greg AB7R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ...
Greg, The pinout is the same. You can take a hand mic from a TS-870, 570 whatever and plug it into the K3 and it works fine. Not true ... for example, the TS-570 manual says: Compatible microphones include the MC-43S, MC-47, MC-60A, MC-80, MC-85, and MC-90. The MC-60A, MC-80, and MC-85 are all electret mics or have a built in preamplifier that requires power on pin 5 of the mic connector and a blocking capacitor in the microphone lead. None of them will work with the K3 without modification. The TS-870 and TS-2000 have a similar list of compatible microphones. 73, ... Joe, W4TV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] microHAM K3 cables ...
Yes, the Elecraft mic pinout is different than Kenwood because Kenwood uses pin 5 for +8 volts and Elecraft uses pin 6. Argh! Another case of being almost the same. This breaks a lot of good Kenwood mics - MC-44, MC-55, MC-60, MC-80, MC-85 - when they are powered from the radio. Its this kind of hidden design departures that are extremely frustrating to users and third party vendors alike. 73, ... Joe, W4TV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Substitution of stock 2.7 for the 2.8
One man's simple answer is ... well .. simple. Keep the 2.7KHz 5-p filter. You will find that the DSP provides mighty fine ultimate rejection. In this configuration, the 2.7 filter provides quite adequate protection from strong in-band signals. If you're a contester, buy one or both of the 1.8 KHz or 2.1 KHz 8-p filters for extra protection. I know I will. Just not sure when. Operating and learning the radio is keeping me too busy for this to be a priority. Right now I only have the basic 2.7KHz 5-p and 250Hz 8-p filters. This might be termed a basic SSB and a somewhat picky CW op's choice. It has worked quite well as a combo, so far. Now - if you find yourself freqently or often in the presence of S9+60 filled-with-splatter signals, nothing will help and you'd be better off switching bands. Nothing can help with that. I just came across that with an OT last night, only 1/2 mile from here. Runs a KW to talk across the state. Go figure. matt - WA6EGJ K3 # 24 == On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:15:14 -0500, you wrote: I am looking for a consensus as to the value of switching the stock 2.7Khz for the 2.8Khz filter at time of order and paying the difference based on a $30 credit? I would like some input as to what the difference really is and what it would mean in terms of functionality. Additionally, if the 2.8 is that much better, why would it not be part of the basic radio offering visa vis the 2.7? Thanks Bob ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Substitution of stock 2.7 for the 2.8 in the K3
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 20:15, Bob wrote: I am looking for a consensus as to the value of switching the stock 2.7Khz for the 2.8Khz filter at time of order and paying the difference based on a $30 credit? I would like some input as to what the difference really is and what it would mean in terms of functionality. Additionally, if the 2.8 is that much better, why would it not be part of the basic radio offering visa vis the 2.7? Thanks Bob I suspect you would be hard-pressed to see any difference at all between the 5-pole 2.7 kHz filter and 8-pole 2.8 kHz filter in on-the-air operation. According to the K3 FAQ, only the first 30 dB or so of stop-band rejection is important in the roofing filter - the DSP takes care of the rest. Of course, the 5-pole filter is actually slightly narrower at the -6 dB attenuation point. Let's say the 8-pole filter is narrower at attenuations beyond 10 dB. So the only practical advantage it would have is a few dB better attenuation between the -10 and -30 dB points. If there were a VERY strong signal in that range (say from +/- 1.5 to 2.0 kHz from center frequency) the 8-pole filter might prevent it overloading the ADC/DSP system where the 5-pole might not. To make the more-expensive filter worthwhile, the signal strength would have to be right in that few-dB range where the 8-pole filter would work and the 5-pole would not. I think that's a rare enough occurance not to be worth worrying about. Al N1AL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Regarding the K3, PW-1 and ALC
Hi Jay, All I am doing is presenting what Icom has to say, in one document. And some people do want to run a PW-1 with the K3, and some people were moaning about the incompatibility of the ALC levels between Icom amps and the K3. 73, doug From: Jay Bromley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 20:21:25 -0600 HI Doug and all, That is indeed interesting. I have seen that document many times and never noticed that. In the PW1's owners manual almost every page comments how important ALC is to prevent damage to the PW1 using both Icom and non Icom rigs. Having owned a PW1 and setting up about a half a dozen or so around the area here, I well tell you it only takes 28 watts to run 1KW out on the PW1. All of them I have setup run ALC and no problems so far. One of them runs a TS850 along with a Pro 3, but both are using ALC. The 7800 is at the limit of the PW1's ALC range, but works great. Since the PW1 will run over 1KW with as little of 30 watts of drive I wouldn't think most guys spending nearly $5k would take a chance damaging it. I did see one PW1 run near 1.5KW when a guy didn't have ALC hooked up. I am not sure how long it would run like that before it went up in smoke, luckily he said it in time. If you look at the specs for the PW1 FET modules they are rating each at 300 watts (I've seen some sheets spec them out at 150 watts a pair). To get away with this they are using a huge heat sink and three fans for the PA section alone. In the end to each his own, but after having a lot of experience with this amp I wouldn't think of not running ALC. In the heat of chasing DX and even more so in contesting, I can not imagine any one not screwing up at least once. That is all it takes, trust me I know first hand! I know this doesn't have much to do with a K3, unless your are going to interface the two together. Many thanks and 73 de w5jay/jay.. This came across the Icom list a few minutes ago, and I took a look. Look for yourself at page 35 of the referenced document, but I'll quote it, too. Non-Icom radios may or may not use the ALC feature. It is recommended to not use ALC with a non-Icom radio and to control the power manually on the radio. So, if you want to follow Icom's recommendation for the PW-1, the question of the K3's ALC level is moot. I'm amused, frankly. Thanks Dick. I suspect it'd be easy to use a PIC (as in PICAXE, even) to translate the K3's frequency messages to Icom's CIV equivalents. If someone will give me a PW-1 (to keep), I'll do it!!! 8-) I'm just waiting for it to start raining to do the K3 to IC2KL band select hack. 73, doug From: Dick Dievendorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:23:12 -0800 Try this: http://icomamerica.com/en/support/kb/Article.aspx?ArticleNumber=615A26584A There's a place where you want to turn off the transceiver that isn't immediately obvious from the PW-1 instruction manual. Dick, K6KR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
