[Elecraft] K3 and NUE-PSK

[Paul Ryan]

Hello All,

My NUE-PSK Digital Modem arrived today and I'm getting ready to wire it to the
K3.  I searched the archives but didn't see any posts on anyone successfully
wiring it up and what choices they made.  If someone has, I'd like to hear
your thoughts and experiences.  

Lacking any other data from the group, I'm inclined to wire the modem's AUDIO
OUT line to the KIO3's MIC-MONO jack and set MAIN:MIC SEL to RP, Low Z and
Bias OFF.Then wire the AUDIO IN to the KIO3's PHONES jack with a stereo
plug but only connect to the tip for mono audio.  The PTT will go to the PTT
IN on the lower panel.  Select DATA-A mode for operation.

If anyone sees a problem, or knows a better way, please let me know.

Thanks and 73,
Paul, N0KIA


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Re: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

[Jan Erik Holm]

Can´t you move this XP crap to some other list, after
all this list is called Elecraft.

Tnx!

/SM2EKM
--
Darwin, Keith wrote:

I too heard XP is going to end soon.  I got to use a Windows Vista
machine here at work the last few days.




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[Elecraft] K3 Table at Visalia

[Hank Lonberg]

Hi Rick:

Well I’ve got SN #054 so I guess I qualify. Already got a
ticket for the Contest Banquet and I like pinot noir
especially Willamette Valley vintners.

Ciao and 73

Hank / KR7X


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[Elecraft] K3 Table at Visalia

[Rick Tavan N6XI]

Several K3 field testers are putting together a table at the Contest Banquet
at the Visalia DX and Contest Convention on April 25. So far, we include
K6KR (author of K3 Utility), AE6Y, N6RA, N6XI and maybe N6TR. The banquet is
$35 per person, not including wine. If you would like to join us, please let
me know your call, K3 S/N, whether you have already reserved for the banquet
and your wine drinking proclivities.

73,

/Rick N6XI
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RE: [Elecraft] Shipping update?

[Bill Johnson]

There is supposed to be a weekly update on shipping which would mean this
Friday the 11th.


72,

Bill 

K9YEQ
K2 #35, K2 # 5279, KX1 #35, Mini Modules, etc.  




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fern Rivard
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping update?

Hi Garry:

When I wanted to know when my K3 was to be shipped, I simply phone them
and got an answer. Mind you, I was subscribe to this reflector back then.  I
just don't see the point of this constant complaining on this reflector
about a delivery date! Hang in there as it's worth the wait.
Cheers from FernVE7GZ



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Re: [Elecraft] Windows XP

[Ian Stirling]

On Wednesday 09 April 2008 05:14:23 pm Don Wilhelm wrote:
 
> Just walk through the authorization steps - if you don't have an 
> internet connection, use the phone.

  XP is the first Micro$oft that requires a dynamic "authorization".
Whe M$ no longer supports reinstallation of XP, the legal status of
the cracked authorization that's available with searching will be
interesting.  No one contracted with XP to a deliberately broken
so called operating system; this is something that M$ did after the
fact.
  My rant below is not aimed at Don: it's just a fact.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
gnu/linux tinkerer since a 0.9 kernel sometime in 1992, User since
1.0.9 and 1.1.18 kernels in Slackware 1994, Linux-FT lasermoon 1995,
Redhat 4.2 (spit) sometime in 1997, manual update from 1.2 13 to 2.0.0
in 1998, Debian fanatic 1998 to recently, FreeBSD 3.4 January 2000 to
6.2 lately, kubuntu 7.10 currently and strongly considering Gentoo.
Unix pre linux.  Get out of my face Micro$oft.
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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping update?

[Fern Rivard]

Hi Garry:

When I wanted to know when my K3 was to be shipped, I simply phone them and 
got an answer. Mind you, I was subscribe to this reflector back then.  I just 
don't see the point of this constant complaining on this reflector about a 
delivery date! Hang in there as it's worth the wait.
Cheers from FernVE7GZ



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Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:57 PM
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What say Elecraft?

Can we get a shipping update?  There are a few of us still in the
queue and wanting to hear about the latest shipping status.  Last
update ended April 4.

As of 2 minutes prior to this post there is still no change on the web
page re-shipping status.

TIA

Garry/Ve7ajj
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[Elecraft] My Katiegram

[VE3NFK]

Hi
Lots of 'Katie's" today  - add mine to the list - ordered Oct 26, kit, 100W,
General, 6khz, 400hz and transverter (waiting for 2nd receiver) - told that
shipping notice will be in 2-3 weeks

73  John VE3NFK
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[Elecraft] Shipping update?

[VE7AJJ]

What say Elecraft?

Can we get a shipping update?  There are a few of us still in the
queue and wanting to hear about the latest shipping status.  Last
update ended April 4.

As of 2 minutes prior to this post there is still no change on the web
page re-shipping status.

TIA

Garry/Ve7ajj
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RE: [Elecraft] OT - Jawbone, Noise Cancellation, Bluetooth & Ham Radio

[Don Nesbitt]

Hello Phil - you might want to take a look at:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6ypVUoRVv3U

It's a pretty nice explanation of one possibility.  73 -- Don N4HH

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - Jawbone, Noise Cancellation, Bluetooth & Ham
Radio

On 4/6/2008 10:25 AM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:

> I'd look for a device that communicates with Bluetooth devices and has
> cables to connect to a PC's sound card.  Maybe it's just a little bit of
> work to create a cable that connects to the radio's microphone / headset 

I'm looking for a device that I can plug into the Headphone jack of a 
hand-held radio (scanner, HT. etc) and allow me to use the "single ear 
teardrop" type of Bluetooth earphone.  Microphone capability not needed 
or wanted.  When I looked for this a while ago I was overloaded by 
jargon (and I'm a graduate engineer!) the bottom line of which was that 
the encoding protocol used for such earphones was different from the 
"double ear" type of music earphones.

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[Elecraft] KatieGram Received Today

[Tom Childers, N5GE]

Loaded manufactured rig ordered on Oct 21st.

Yahooo!

Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq

"They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety 
deserve neither liberty nor safety."

--Benjamin Franklin 1775


Support the entire Constitution, not 
just the parts you like.

http://www.n5ge.com
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[Elecraft] Another Katiegram

[Gill W4RYW]

Wonderful news - my order of Oct 23 will ship in 2-3 weeks. I was actually
expecting a late May delivery after lurking about this list for the last
several months.

Gill  W4RYW
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Re: [Elecraft] Windows XP

[Phil Kane]

On 4/9/2008 2:14 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

While Ubuntu is a viable alternative, there are several applications 
that I like (Ham Radio Deluxe for instance) that will not work on 
Ubuntu, so I stick with Windows 2K and XP.


I'm even more retro on that - my main Ham packet/Pactor program is PK 
Gold, which was developed for "real DOS" and doesn't play well with the 
"DOS equivalent" on WinXP.  That's why I have a separate Win2K machine 
for that program.


BTW - I added your name to our "get well prayer" list at our 
congregation while you were recuperating and it's good to see you back.

---
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
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Re: [Elecraft] Alternatives to PowerPoles?

[Phil Kane]

On 4/7/2008 6:51 AM, Charles Harpole wrote:


The major 13vdc ham radio equipment input power connector is the 4
pin Molex.  This connector has proven in thousands of uses to be
adequate to the voltage, the current, and the physical demands of
this utilization.  It is the de facto standard on K, I, and Y radios


Gee, Charles, I just looked at my ICOM, Kenwood, Elecraft, Ten-Tec, AEA, 
Uniden, and Alinco equipment here (I don't "do" Yaesu) and on none of 
them do I find any "4 pin Molex".


De facto was a variety of connectors (2 pin Molex, T-connectors, others) 
on the power cables, all of which had "pigtails" of about 6 inches and 
APP connectors installed by me.  Of course I have the proper tools and 
experience to do them after several hundred successful installs.


---
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
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Re: [Elecraft] Katiegram arrived

[Larry K1UO]

Todd Gahagan wrote:
> 
> I guess I had better go with the flow and announce this.
> 
> I received my "Katiegram" today 04-09-08.  Order placed 10-22-2007.
> 
> One of the nicest email I have ever received!!
> ___
> 
> 
> 

Send it back  You are way ahead of the listed shipping status <8^)

73
K1UO

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RE: [Elecraft] Katiegram arrived

[Bill Johnson]

Great!  Three months or less to go before I get mine!


72,

Bill 

K9YEQ
K2 #35, K2 # 5279, KX1 #35, Mini Modules, etc.  


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I guess I had better go with the flow and announce this.

I received my "Katiegram" today 04-09-08.  Order placed 10-22-2007.


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[Elecraft] Katiegram arrived

[Todd J Gahagan]

I guess I had better go with the flow and announce this.

I received my "Katiegram" today 04-09-08.  Order placed 10-22-2007.

One of the nicest email I have ever received!!
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Jawbone, Noise Cancellation, Bluetooth & Ham Radio

[Phil Kane]

On 4/6/2008 10:25 AM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:


I'd look for a device that communicates with Bluetooth devices and has
cables to connect to a PC's sound card.  Maybe it's just a little bit of
work to create a cable that connects to the radio's microphone / headset 


I'm looking for a device that I can plug into the Headphone jack of a 
hand-held radio (scanner, HT. etc) and allow me to use the "single ear 
teardrop" type of Bluetooth earphone.  Microphone capability not needed 
or wanted.  When I looked for this a while ago I was overloaded by 
jargon (and I'm a graduate engineer!) the bottom line of which was that 
the encoding protocol used for such earphones was different from the 
"double ear" type of music earphones.


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Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
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Re: [Elecraft] HD15 Y-cable

[John Silva N3AM]

Thanks, David.  I did the same thing, but all the ones with photos of 
the male plug show pin 9 missing, rendering them useless.


73,
John N3AM


Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:01:50 -0400
From: David Wilburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HD15 Y-cable
To: John Silva N3AM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I went to google, and entered;

HD15 Y-cable and got a whole bunch of choices, plenty of info and pics.


Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982


John Silva N3AM wrote:
Does anyone know where an HD-15 Y-cable can be obtained?  All the 
VGA cables and Y-cables I've found are missing pin 9, which is 
needed for the BAND2 data on the K3 ACC jack.  Radio Shack has the 
connectors and shells that can be used to fabricate the cable, but I 
prefer a manufactured one, if available.

73,
John N3AM



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[Elecraft] K3 Oh Boy Oh Boy Oh Boy!!!

[Fred Jensen]

The Elecraft box arrived.  I think someone is keeping track of this 
stuff on the reflector but don't know who:


K3/100 S/N 00642
KAT3
KFL3A-500
KUSB
Proset-K2-R

Ordered 21 Sep 2007
Invoice # 50702
Arrived 9 April 2008

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party  4-5 Oct 08
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[Elecraft] KAT2 1.07 firmware update?

[Joe Planisky]

Hi all,

I'm on an update/upgrade kick for my K2.  My KAT2 has firmware version  
1.06, and I see that version 1.07 is current.  I've looked on the web  
site for a description of the differences between 1.06 and 1.07, but  
couldn't find any mention of it.  Anyone know what's new with 1.07?


--
Joe KB8AP

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Re: [Elecraft] Windows XP

[Don Wilhelm]

DW,

Just walk through the authorization steps - if you don't have an 
internet connection, use the phone.
I have done it many times.  The only thing they want to know is how many 
machines your copy is running on - if the answer is 1, they will 
authorize it.  It sometimes takes a bit of effort, but it gets the job 
done - and legally.


I have done it several times when a motherboard or hard drive has died - 
in addition to my own 5 XP machines, I maintain 10 XP computers on our 
church network, and I have had to re-load XP several times over the past 
few years - the process may be a bit lengthy, but never any real problem.


While Ubuntu is a viable alternative, there are several applications 
that I like (Ham Radio Deluxe for instance) that will not work on 
Ubuntu, so I stick with Windows 2K and XP.


73,
Don W3FPR

DW Holtman wrote:

Hello,

Thank you for all of the great responses I have received.


The copy is not an OEM specifically for one machine. I'm not trying to use 
it on two machines at the same time, my old one broke. It gives me a message 
that I have 30 days to register it before it stops functioning.


  

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[Elecraft] Windows XP

[DW Holtman]

Hello,

Thank you for all of the great responses I have received.


The copy is not an OEM specifically for one machine. I'm not trying to use 
it on two machines at the same time, my old one broke. It gives me a message 
that I have 30 days to register it before it stops functioning.

I have spent the last couple of hours Googling for information on Ubuntu. 
Since this PC will only be used in my shack for radio stuff, I'm going to 
load Ubuntu and forget about Microsoft (like getting a 600 pound gorilla 
off my back). All of the software (including the Ubuntu OS), is free, no 
registration. Software for operating digital modes, K2 controller software, 
logging programs etc are available for download. It looks like a good way to 
go for me.

Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band Decoder

[K3KO]

The poor man's solution is a CD4514 IC, some diodes and resistors.  It will
decode all 11 bands and run off the K3 +12v jack.  Diodes allow for handling
multiband antennas. 

Personally, I prefer a cheap PIC but you have to have the programmer.
73 de Brian/K3KO


Ron Chambers wrote:
> 
> Buy a Phidget 16/16 board ($100), write a little Visual Basic 6 code,
> input the K3's band data to the Phidget Board, and "bingo", out comes
> whatever switching logic you need on any or all of the 16
> outputs!(slightly oversimplified of course...)
> Ron N5QQ
> 
> Message: 39
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:04:08 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "J. Heide" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Band Decoder
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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> 
> 
> OK, now that the Katiegram has arrived, I need to think about antenna
> switching. I have the following antennas that I want to use with the
> K3
> Windom for most all bands
> Yagi for 20 meters
> Yagi for 6 meters (goes to the XV50)
> Vertical for 160 meters
> Vertical for 6m FM (which is not used with the K2)
> 
> Right now, I have a KRC2 that switches the 20m yagi and 160 vertical
> on antenna port 2 on the radio. Since the K3 has 4 band decoder (TTL?)
> lines coming out of it, it is easy enough to build logic to pull in
> the right relay. Can the "DIGOUT" line be used (with proper buffering,
> of course) to switch a relay for changing from horizontal to vertical
> on 6m? Basically, windom and 6 meter antennas to antenna port 1 (with
> the band decoder switching from windom to 6 meters, and digout
> selecting wither the vert or horiz) and the 20m beam and 160 vert
> switched on antenna port 2?
> 
> I have several RelComm RDL-SR002 relays, one of which I am using with
> the KRC2 now, so quality relays are not a problem here.
> 
> Sorry if this is a bit long, but without equipment in front of me, I
> have a hard time visualizing things.
> 
> 73
> Josh
> K6ZRX
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band Decoder

[Dick Dievendorff]

Also consider the Unified Microsystems BCD-10 at $18.95.  You'll probably
need to add 4 pullup resistors.

Dick, K6KR


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Chambers
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:30 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Band Decoder

Buy a Phidget 16/16 board ($100), write a little Visual Basic 6 code,
input the K3's band data to the Phidget Board, and "bingo", out comes
whatever switching logic you need on any or all of the 16
outputs!(slightly oversimplified of course...)
Ron N5QQ

Message: 39
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:04:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Heide" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Band Decoder
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


OK, now that the Katiegram has arrived, I need to think about antenna
switching. I have the following antennas that I want to use with the
K3
Windom for most all bands
Yagi for 20 meters
Yagi for 6 meters (goes to the XV50)
Vertical for 160 meters
Vertical for 6m FM (which is not used with the K2)

Right now, I have a KRC2 that switches the 20m yagi and 160 vertical
on antenna port 2 on the radio. Since the K3 has 4 band decoder (TTL?)
lines coming out of it, it is easy enough to build logic to pull in
the right relay. Can the "DIGOUT" line be used (with proper buffering,
of course) to switch a relay for changing from horizontal to vertical
on 6m? Basically, windom and 6 meter antennas to antenna port 1 (with
the band decoder switching from windom to 6 meters, and digout
selecting wither the vert or horiz) and the 20m beam and 160 vert
switched on antenna port 2?

I have several RelComm RDL-SR002 relays, one of which I am using with
the KRC2 now, so quality relays are not a problem here.

Sorry if this is a bit long, but without equipment in front of me, I
have a hard time visualizing things.

73
Josh
K6ZRX
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[Elecraft] K3 Band Decoder

[Ron Chambers]

Buy a Phidget 16/16 board ($100), write a little Visual Basic 6 code,
input the K3's band data to the Phidget Board, and "bingo", out comes
whatever switching logic you need on any or all of the 16
outputs!(slightly oversimplified of course...)
Ron N5QQ

Message: 39
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:04:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Heide" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Band Decoder
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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OK, now that the Katiegram has arrived, I need to think about antenna
switching. I have the following antennas that I want to use with the
K3
Windom for most all bands
Yagi for 20 meters
Yagi for 6 meters (goes to the XV50)
Vertical for 160 meters
Vertical for 6m FM (which is not used with the K2)

Right now, I have a KRC2 that switches the 20m yagi and 160 vertical
on antenna port 2 on the radio. Since the K3 has 4 band decoder (TTL?)
lines coming out of it, it is easy enough to build logic to pull in
the right relay. Can the "DIGOUT" line be used (with proper buffering,
of course) to switch a relay for changing from horizontal to vertical
on 6m? Basically, windom and 6 meter antennas to antenna port 1 (with
the band decoder switching from windom to 6 meters, and digout
selecting wither the vert or horiz) and the 20m beam and 160 vert
switched on antenna port 2?

I have several RelComm RDL-SR002 relays, one of which I am using with
the KRC2 now, so quality relays are not a problem here.

Sorry if this is a bit long, but without equipment in front of me, I
have a hard time visualizing things.

73
Josh
K6ZRX
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RE: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

[Darwin, Keith]

I too heard XP is going to end soon.  I got to use a Windows Vista
machine here at work the last few days.

Vista is terrible.  I hate the UI.  It is slow to start, very slow to
shut down.  Every piece of the OS I bumbled into was worse than the
corresponding piece in XP.  Well, the Task Manager was better but that
was it.  Networking was worse.  Control panel is worse.  Start button is
worse.

When my Windows XP machine needs to be replaced, I'll probably switch to
Mac if that's what it takes to avoid Vista.

- Keith N1AS -
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

[David Wilburn]

Depending on what the other machine is getting used for, it might be a 
good time to check out Ubuntu.



Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982




Nelson Moyer wrote:

I had the same experience following a mother board failure, so Microsoft
isn't all evil.

Nelson, KU0A

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Foster
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:22 PM
To: DW Holtman; Ron D'Eau Claire; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

  Unless the policy has changed, and I seriously doubt it, Microsoft allows
you to install XP on three different CPUs. When and if you try to load it on
a forth, the activation process will fail and tell you to call customer
service. I had a motherboard fail and was already on #3. I called customer
service and told them that the old machine was dead and the rep actually
reset me to zero (!) so after loading a new machine I have two left. I was
prepared for a battle but I was boviously quite surprised. Either Microsoft
is trying to work with people who play by the rules (and don't steal
software) or I was just lucky and got the right rep.
  In any event, you have nothing but your time to lose by trying to load
another machine and also to ask for help if you need it.
  Ron - W2RIP


DW Holtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hello,

I have another off topic question about Windows XP. I have a legal copy on a

generic computer that I bought sometime ago. It came with the CD and the 
sticker on the outside with the serial number. Can I load this copy on 
another computer and get it registered with Microsoft? I have heard horror 
stories about registering with Microsoft. I paid for and own this copy of 
XP, but can I move it?


Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

- Original Message - 
From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:02 AM

Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrington,
M0XDF

I work in a VERY big bank - we have over 80,000 desktops and we use XP
- at some point we will have to move on to Vista but it will be some
years I recon

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RE: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

[Nelson Moyer]

I had the same experience following a mother board failure, so Microsoft
isn't all evil.

Nelson, KU0A

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Foster
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:22 PM
To: DW Holtman; Ron D'Eau Claire; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

  Unless the policy has changed, and I seriously doubt it, Microsoft allows
you to install XP on three different CPUs. When and if you try to load it on
a forth, the activation process will fail and tell you to call customer
service. I had a motherboard fail and was already on #3. I called customer
service and told them that the old machine was dead and the rep actually
reset me to zero (!) so after loading a new machine I have two left. I was
prepared for a battle but I was boviously quite surprised. Either Microsoft
is trying to work with people who play by the rules (and don't steal
software) or I was just lucky and got the right rep.
  In any event, you have nothing but your time to lose by trying to load
another machine and also to ask for help if you need it.
  Ron - W2RIP


DW Holtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hello,

I have another off topic question about Windows XP. I have a legal copy on a

generic computer that I bought sometime ago. It came with the CD and the 
sticker on the outside with the serial number. Can I load this copy on 
another computer and get it registered with Microsoft? I have heard horror 
stories about registering with Microsoft. I paid for and own this copy of 
XP, but can I move it?

Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

- Original Message - 
From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:02 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrington,
M0XDF

I work in a VERY big bank - we have over 80,000 desktops and we use XP
- at some point we will have to move on to Vista but it will be some
years I recon
-- 


It was just 8 years ago that Intel asked me to develop training modules on
how to use Widows Xp some of their call center staff. There was a huge
amount of angst over what problems Xp might cause. Drivers were near the top
of the list of concerns.

That was a long time ago in the lifespan of most technology. And Xp has a
number of years of Microsoft support ahead of it on current systems, such as
the one I'm using now. Even after that, it'll live on. I've got one machine
still running Windows Me, and it runs quite nicely (for a machine with a 500
MHz Pentium III and a few hundred k of RAM ). I know others still running
various versions of DOS!

Fortunately new software does not immediately displace everything else,
except in the minds of those hardy folks who choose to be "early adopters".
Their experiences work out the bugs for the rest of us who merely want a
reliable tool to use.

I'm happy to be an early adopter of new communications technology. It's what
interests me.

I'll leave the software for those who enjoy doing that.

Ron AC7AC







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Re: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

[Ron Foster]

  Unless the policy has changed, and I seriously doubt it, Microsoft allows you 
to install XP on three different CPUs. When and if you try to load it on a 
forth, the activation process will fail and tell you to call customer service. 
I had a motherboard fail and was already on #3. I called customer service and 
told them that the old machine was dead and the rep actually reset me to zero 
(!) so after loading a new machine I have two left. I was prepared for a battle 
but I was boviously quite surprised. Either Microsoft is trying to work with 
people who play by the rules (and don't steal software) or I was just lucky and 
got the right rep.
  In any event, you have nothing but your time to lose by trying to load 
another machine and also to ask for help if you need it.
  Ron - W2RIP


DW Holtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hello,

I have another off topic question about Windows XP. I have a legal copy on a 
generic computer that I bought sometime ago. It came with the CD and the 
sticker on the outside with the serial number. Can I load this copy on 
another computer and get it registered with Microsoft? I have heard horror 
stories about registering with Microsoft. I paid for and own this copy of 
XP, but can I move it?

Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

- Original Message - 
From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:02 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrington,
M0XDF

I work in a VERY big bank - we have over 80,000 desktops and we use XP
- at some point we will have to move on to Vista but it will be some
years I recon
-- 


It was just 8 years ago that Intel asked me to develop training modules on
how to use Widows Xp some of their call center staff. There was a huge
amount of angst over what problems Xp might cause. Drivers were near the top
of the list of concerns.

That was a long time ago in the lifespan of most technology. And Xp has a
number of years of Microsoft support ahead of it on current systems, such as
the one I'm using now. Even after that, it'll live on. I've got one machine
still running Windows Me, and it runs quite nicely (for a machine with a 500
MHz Pentium III and a few hundred k of RAM ). I know others still running
various versions of DOS!

Fortunately new software does not immediately displace everything else,
except in the minds of those hardy folks who choose to be "early adopters".
Their experiences work out the bugs for the rest of us who merely want a
reliable tool to use.

I'm happy to be an early adopter of new communications technology. It's what
interests me.

I'll leave the software for those who enjoy doing that.

Ron AC7AC







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Re: [Elecraft] Alternatives to PowerPoles?

[George Victor]

"While demonstrating two early K3s at the Lebanon Hamfest last
October, TWICE I tripped on the power cords behind the table.  TWICE,
I said "oh s_ _ _t!"  TWICE I said,  "I'll never do that again."
TWICE, I thanked God for telling Elecraft to use APPs.  TWICE, I was
damn glad they weren't locked together.
K9ZTV"

Was the purpose of this post to tell the group that APP's have a
safety feature, OR,  to inform the group that Elecraft is using APP's
because of K9ZTV?
;)
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[Elecraft] K3 2nd RX shield

[mark roz]

I wonder if the shield for the 2nd RX is made out of aluminum?

If it is not, than it will be heavy considering the size of it.

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[Elecraft] K3 - Import duties on replacement modules

[Dave G4AON]

I see there has been a lot of discussion over vat, duty, shipping 
charges, etc. on various items. Just to put the minds of those at rest 
who worry about K3 and similar modules that may need returning for 
repair, and how to deal with the paperwork of customs, etc.


I recently received a replacement PA unit and driver board for my K3, 
this was to resolve a minor spurious problem on the 5 MHz band. The box 
was marked something like "warranty replacement parts" and attracted no 
tax. Likewise the return assembly and board were marked as faulty for 
investigation/disposal by supplier.


Obviously if there are costs involved, such as buying an additional 
module, they will quite correctly attract the interest of the customs 
people and be charged accordingly.


73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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Re: [Bulk] Re: [Elecraft] Import duties on amateur radio items

[Darrell Bellerive]

I can't address this for the EU, but when importing into Canada, the 
Government only charges taxes on the value of the goods, not the shipping and 
handling.

If the invoice does not clearly show the breakdown of the price then the 
government will charge on the total value. That is why it is important for 
exporters to clearly show on the invoice the price of the goods, and the 
price of shipping and handling as separate line items.

The last invoice I have from Elecraft shows that they do this correctly.

Even though there is no duty on amateur radio equipment into Canada, there are 
still charges to pay:
1) Sales taxes. The Federal Goods and Services Tax (GST) at 5% plus any 
provincial sales taxes that are applicable.
2) Brokerage fees. If the package comes across the border via a courier such 
as UPS or Fedex, then they will charge a brokerage fee for importing the 
item. This can be substantial at times. Some couriers have a rate category 
that includes the brokerage fees. Another common practice by the couriers is 
to deliver the package and then bill later for the brokerage fees. A few 
times I thought I had gotten away with no fees, only to get a big bill in the 
mail a month later. A package that comes across via the postal system is only 
charged a flat $5 fee. That is why I now will only us the postal system for 
imports.

Darrell
VA7TO



On Wednesday 09 April 2008 00:21, David Woolley (E.L) wrote:
> > The worst thing is that both duty and taxes are applied to the bottom
> > line of the invoice, the total including both shipping and insurance!
> > Helpful exporters to the EU will bill for those two service items
> > separately, so that duty and VAT are applied only to the true value of
> > the goods. As far as I'm aware, this is a perfectly legal way to
> > minimize the tax liability.
>
> I am pretty sure that that is illegal tax evasion, if they only include
> the goods value on the declaration.  The Revenue and Customs document
> that explains the current rules for postal shipments makes it very
> clear, and cites source legislation, that duty and VAT are based on the
> bottom line price, including shipping and insurance.
>

-- 
Darrell Bellerive
Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA
Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada
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RE: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

[Joe Stofko]

Hello Jack, 

Well, that figures... That's what I get for 
paying attention to this report:


Which... may, or may not be, true! 

And, you are right. I do not expect to see XP disappear into the 
abyss for the foreseeable future!

73, 
Joe

-Original Message-
From: Jack Brindle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:05 AM
To: Joe Stofko
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

Direct from Microsoft (do a search there on Windows XP EOL). The EOL  
date for OEM's (those shipping XP on computers) is January 31, 2009.  
It will probably be extended beyond that. XP will be around and  
supported for quite some time to come.



On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:26 AM, Joe Stofko wrote:
> Well, we all knew it would happen sooner, or later.
>
> Latest word is that Microsoft will stop shipping XP as of June 30.
> Personally, I do not like Vista..
>
> The eye candy is nice, but there's not much else about it that is  
> tugging at
> me to switch... I work in IT (K-12 Education). We have close to 2,000
> computers and most are running XP Pro. Well, as several vendors have
> mentioned... don't worry, there will be service packs, patches and  
> upgrades.
> I can think of an excellent one myself. It's called Linux !  ;-)
>
>
>
> Joe - W1AIU
>
>
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[Elecraft] XP available until 6/30/2010

[Dave G.]

Gentlemen,

FYI...
http://weblog.infoworld.com/techwatch/archives/016650.html

Can we now close this thread??


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity.
But I'm not so sure about the universe."  ... Albert Einstein.

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Re: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

[DW Holtman]

Hello,

I have another off topic question about Windows XP. I have a legal copy on a 
generic computer that I bought sometime ago. It came with the CD and the 
sticker on the outside with the serial number. Can I load this copy on 
another computer and get it registered with Microsoft? I have heard horror 
stories about registering with Microsoft. I paid for and own this copy of 
XP, but can I move it?


Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

- Original Message - 
From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:02 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrington,
M0XDF

I work in a VERY big bank - we have over 80,000 desktops and we use XP
- at some point we will have to move on to Vista but it will be some
years I recon
--


It was just 8 years ago that Intel asked me to develop training modules on
how to use Widows Xp some of their call center staff. There was a huge
amount of angst over what problems Xp might cause. Drivers were near the top
of the list of concerns.

That was a long time ago in the lifespan of most technology. And Xp has a
number of years of Microsoft support ahead of it on current systems, such as
the one I'm using now. Even after that, it'll live on. I've got one machine
still running Windows Me, and it runs quite nicely (for a machine with a 500
MHz Pentium III and a few hundred k of RAM ). I know others still running
various versions of DOS!

Fortunately new software does not immediately displace everything else,
except in the minds of those hardy folks who choose to be "early adopters".
Their experiences work out the bugs for the rest of us who merely want a
reliable tool to use.

I'm happy to be an early adopter of new communications technology. It's what
interests me.

I'll leave the software for those who enjoy doing that.

Ron AC7AC







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Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK artefact

[Vic K2VCO]

David Cutter wrote:

This is a re-post to see if it attracts comment.

This concerns an audible artefact using QSK cw mode.  When either rf
gain or af gain are at maximum, there is an additional noise which
accompanies the Morse characters.  


I've noticed the phenomenon that you describe, but it's not exactly an 
artifact. Looking at the audio output with a scope shows an absolutely 
clean transition between noise and sidetone, or, if the sidetone is 
turned down all the way, between noise and silence.


As the sidetone gets louder with respect to the noise, which occurs when 
you turn the sidetone level up or the audio or RF gain down, you hear 
less 'artifact'.


What I think it is is sort of an auditory illusion caused by the rapidly 
pulsing noise, and maybe the sharp rise/fall times of the noise pulses 
in between keyed elements (not the sidetone, which is shaped nicely).


I've suggested to Wayne and Lyle that they look at the way they ramp the 
gain up and down in QSK, and Wayne has discussed the possibility of 
making the tone quality of the sidetone user-modifiable. Maybe they will 
look at this when they are done with more urgent matters.


In the meantime, if it bothers you, just change the balance between the 
signal audio and the sidetone.

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

[Jack Brindle]

Direct from Microsoft (do a search there on Windows XP EOL). The EOL  
date for OEM's (those shipping XP on computers) is January 31, 2009.  
It will probably be extended beyond that. XP will be around and  
supported for quite some time to come.




On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:26 AM, Joe Stofko wrote:

Well, we all knew it would happen sooner, or later.

Latest word is that Microsoft will stop shipping XP as of June 30.
Personally, I do not like Vista..

The eye candy is nice, but there's not much else about it that is  
tugging at

me to switch... I work in IT (K-12 Education). We have close to 2,000
computers and most are running XP Pro. Well, as several vendors have
mentioned... don't worry, there will be service packs, patches and  
upgrades.

I can think of an excellent one myself. It's called Linux !  ;-)



Joe - W1AIU



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RE: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrington,
M0XDF

I work in a VERY big bank - we have over 80,000 desktops and we use XP  
- at some point we will have to move on to Vista but it will be some  
years I recon
-- 


It was just 8 years ago that Intel asked me to develop training modules on
how to use Widows Xp some of their call center staff. There was a huge
amount of angst over what problems Xp might cause. Drivers were near the top
of the list of concerns.

That was a long time ago in the lifespan of most technology. And Xp has a
number of years of Microsoft support ahead of it on current systems, such as
the one I'm using now. Even after that, it'll live on. I've got one machine
still running Windows Me, and it runs quite nicely (for a machine with a 500
MHz Pentium III and a few hundred k of RAM ). I know others still running
various versions of DOS! 

Fortunately new software does not immediately displace everything else,
except in the minds of those hardy folks who choose to be "early adopters".
Their experiences work out the bugs for the rest of us who merely want a
reliable tool to use. 

I'm happy to be an early adopter of new communications technology. It's what
interests me. 

I'll leave the software for those who enjoy doing that. 

Ron AC7AC





 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

[Mark Bayern]

Hang in there -- if you have to do MS stuff don't drop XP until we see
what Windows 7 looks like.

Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

I work in a VERY big bank - we have over 80,000 desktops and we use XP  
- at some point we will have to move on to Vista but it will be some  
years I recon

--
It came to me that reform should begin at home, and since that day I  
have

not had time to remake the world. -Will Durant, historian (1885-1981)

On 9 Apr 2008, at 15:26, Joe Stofko wrote:

Well, we all knew it would happen sooner, or later.

Latest word is that Microsoft will stop shipping XP as of June 30.
Personally, I do not like Vista..

The eye candy is nice, but there's not much else about it that is  
tugging at

me to switch... I work in IT (K-12 Education). We have close to 2,000
computers and most are running XP Pro. Well, as several vendors have
mentioned... don't worry, there will be service packs, patches and  
upgrades.

I can think of an excellent one myself. It's called Linux !  ;-)


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[Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP

[Joe Stofko]

Well, we all knew it would happen sooner, or later.

Latest word is that Microsoft will stop shipping XP as of June 30.
Personally, I do not like Vista.. 

The eye candy is nice, but there's not much else about it that is tugging at
me to switch... I work in IT (K-12 Education). We have close to 2,000
computers and most are running XP Pro. Well, as several vendors have
mentioned... don't worry, there will be service packs, patches and upgrades.
I can think of an excellent one myself. It's called Linux !  ;-)

 

Joe - W1AIU

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 subreceiver update, including photos

[Lyle Johnson]

Wayne, am I right in thinking the stiffener bar has been removed for 
these shots, but is reinstalled once the KRX3 is in place?


Yes, and yes.

73,

Lyle KK7P


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - FSK hookup to ACC connector

[Lyle Johnson]

Pin #4(PTT IN) doesn't state it also has a 5V pull-up resistor. Does it so I
can use the same NPN type setup?


PTT has a pull up.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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[Elecraft] HD15 Y-cable

[John Silva N3AM]

Does anyone know where an HD-15 Y-cable can be obtained?  All the VGA 
cables and Y-cables I've found are missing pin 9, which is needed for 
the BAND2 data on the K3 ACC jack.  Radio Shack has the connectors 
and shells that can be used to fabricate the cable, but I prefer a 
manufactured one, if available.


73,
John N3AM

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[Elecraft] K3: Lisagramm

[Dr. Werner Furlan]

hello, 

for the record: my K3 ordered 22/09/2007 is on its way. I don't know yet the 
serial number. 

73! de Werner
OE9FWV

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[Elecraft] K3 - FSK hookup to ACC connector

[N2TK]

Just want to make sure before I plug it in.

For FSK, the manual states that pin #1 (FSK IN) in ACC jack has a pull-up
resistor to 5V. So I assume the standard NPN interface from a COM port will
work fine for that.

Pin #4(PTT IN) doesn't state it also has a 5V pull-up resistor. Does it so I
can use the same NPN type setup?

By the way, thanks for all the input I have received on setting up for RTTY
with my K3 and DXbase. Based on several inputs I am using Hamscope which
seems to interface well with the K3 and DXbase. AFSK is working fine with
just two cables between the K3 (LINE-IN and LINE-OUT) and audio card on PC. 
Now I want to set up for FSK.

73,
N2TK, Tony
#311

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 subreceiver update, including photos

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

Wayne, am I right in thinking the stiffener bar has been removed for  
these shots, but is reinstalled once the KRX3 is in place?

--
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-Sean O'Casey, playwright (1880-1964)

On 9 Apr 2008, at 00:58, wayne burdick wrote:

Hi all,

We've just posted two photos showing how the KRX3 subreceiver module  
looks installed in the K3:


http://www.elecraft.com/K3/pics/sub%20RX%20with%20shield.jpg

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/pics/sub%20RX%20without%20shield.jpg

The new two-piece shield completely encloses the subreceiver,  
providing a high degree of isolation between it and the main  
receiver. You'll be able to listen to extremely strong signals in  
one receiver without it leaking into the other's I.F., and vice-versa.


The shield will be bright plated for production. It's shown unplated  
in this photo.


73,
Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] Import duties on amateur radio items

[Ron Meiring]

No duties or Tax in VK for anything under Aud $1000 (about US $850)
Above $ Aud 1000 you pay 10%.
That is all ! :-)
So you could ask for your K* to be shipped in 2 batches, but than you 
pay twice the shipping. So your better off to just pay the tax.

Ron VK4KDD


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[Elecraft] Import duties on amateur radio items

[Raymond METZGER]

Hi Ken,

 

You're right, there is no custom duty in the EU for Amateur radio parts.

But. there is a Value Added Tax (VAT) applicable to any domestic sale or
import from abroad. This VAT replaces your Sales Tax (around 6 %, but
depending on the State ?)

The rate of this VAT varies from country to country : in France it is 19.6
%, in Germany 19 %. I don't know how much it is in the UK.

Only small value parcels are not subject to this VAT (I've seen a recent
e-mail on the Reflector from Toby about an increase of such applicable limit
in the EU).

 

I've paid the 19,6 % VAT on my K3 kit, but various smaller items I purchased
from Elecraft have arrived without any VAT charge, although their value
exceeded the limit.

 

Last comment, Ken, UK is part of the European Union !

 

Raymond, F4FNT

K2 # 5.636, K3 # 615.

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Re: [Elecraft] Import duties on amateur radio items

[David Woolley (E.L)]

Ian White GM3SEK wrote:

Most are free from import duty, or else it's only a few percent. The 


And it is waived if the total duty is less than GBP 7, even if the 
shipment value exceeds the allowance.


killer is the Value Added Tax, which is 17.5% in the UK and even higher 
in some other EU countries. Unless the item is of small value, or is 
below the Customs exemptions for incoming travelers, VAT will normally 
be charged on *all* incoming goods.


The other killer is the GBP 8 handling charge by the Post Office for 
doing the customs processing on items that exceed the allowance. 
Together, these mean that orders over GBP 18 (hopefully more like GBP 
100 at the end of the year, but the necessary Statutory Instruments 
don't yet exist) are very unattractive, particularly ones just over, 
where the GBP 8 is significant.


The other thing that Elecraft need to consider is formalising their 
shipping rates for low value orders.  If one actually looks at the 
official rates and considers a small project item, shipping is 
comparable than the cost of the item.  However, I suspect, that in 
practice, they may be prepared to use postal packets for such items.




The worst thing is that both duty and taxes are applied to the bottom 
line of the invoice, the total including both shipping and insurance! 
Helpful exporters to the EU will bill for those two service items 
separately, so that duty and VAT are applied only to the true value of 
the goods. As far as I'm aware, this is a perfectly legal way to 
minimize the tax liability.


I am pretty sure that that is illegal tax evasion, if they only include 
the goods value on the declaration.  The Revenue and Customs document 
that explains the current rules for postal shipments makes it very 
clear, and cites source legislation, that duty and VAT are based on the 
bottom line price, including shipping and insurance.


Shipping and insurance is not counted for gifts sent directly from one 
individual to another, and the limit is GBP 36, rather than GBP 18, but 
that is not relevant for a company.



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Re: [Elecraft] Import duties on amateur radio items

[Jan Erik Holm]

Sweden has the same system as Iceland however we
have 25 percent TAX instead.
Iceland is not on top of the list!!!

Jim SM2EKM

TF3KX wrote:

The "import duty" is not the problem, but the VAT (somewhat similar to the US
sales tax), which is exceedingly high in many European countries.

I wonder if anyone tops the Icelandic VAT, 24.5%, which is added on the
total package value:  Content price + shipping + insurance.  Additionally, I
may be charged for the paperwork ($10-20), and to top it all they may
occasionally request a permit from the Post and Telegraph Authorities for
"radio components".  This is what I had to go through when ordering my K2 a
couple of months ago.

Last week I received a notice from the customs, which had in its custody an
envelope with a transistor and five ceramic capacitors from Elecraft, marked
with the value of $1.  I managed to convince the customs that these were
replacement parts and I had already paid for the original kit earlier, but I
was lucky this time.

73 - Kristinn, TF3KX




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