Re: [Elecraft] Nabble

[n1al]

I'm getting the same thing and I'm not using Nabble.  And it's just
started happening in the last few days.

Alan

> It appears that Nabble is not sending well formed HTML when users
> reply to posts from Nabble.
>
> Here's what I get from Nabble
>
>
> For a major change I can be very patient.  Thank you Wayne!
> 73, Gary W7TEA
>  class="quote light-border-color">
> wayne burdick
> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 2009, at 6:02
> PM, W7TEA wrote:
> > Wayne, a plaintive cry from the wilderness, are 10 hz
> granularity
> > for PBT on CW, and separate volume controls for SPOT and
> sidetone
> > near the top as well?--please??
> Yes.
> Thanks for your patience on the 10-Hz issue; it's going to
> require a
> major change to the firmware.
> 73,
> Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 resetting itself

[Chris Kantarjiev]

> 
> I had a power on--power off problem some time back.  I think several others 
> had a similar issue.  My problem was traced to the I/O board.

Thanks, Dave. Mine is serial 32xx - and the radio had been on for
several hours when this happened. I've had it on for 24 hours straight
during a contest. This is new, and quite odd, behaviour.

I haven't pulled the control board to isolate it yet, but that's next.
I *did* pull the heatsink and the shoulder washers were as they
should be (and the semi-short to ground is still there).

chris
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[Elecraft] K3 Timekeeper

[Roy Morris]

I need to know what I am doing wrong.  I check to see which com port is open on 
my computer with the USB/SERIAL adapter plugged in.  The computer shows COM 
PORT 6 is being used by this adapter.  When I bring up Timekeeper on COM PORT 
6, K3 #323 updates immediately.  When I bring up K3 Timekeeper on COM PORT 6, 
K3 #2810 shows COM PORT 6 in red.  When I change Timekeeper to COM PORT 3 it 
goes to green, but K3 #2810 in CONFIG: TIME does nothing.  Any ideas on how to 
correct this.  Why does this program work on one K3 but the other?  Roy Morris  
W4WFB
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 resetting itself

[dyarnes]

Chris and All,

I had a power on--power off problem some time back.  I think several others 
had a similar issue.  My problem was traced to the I/O board.  I believe 
this has been fixed, and later units don't have the problem.  Not sure what 
your number is though.

I suggest you contact Gary or Rene at Elecraft.  They are pretty sharp, and 
I bet they can get you fixed up quickly.

Dave W7AQK


- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Kantarjiev" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:27 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 resetting itself


>I was happily monitoring 14.058 this afternoon when my K2 turned itself 
>off.
> I cycled the power button and it came on enough to say ELECrAFT and to
> hear a little audio, and then shut down. Then cycling the switch didn't
> do anything. Or would do a little.
>
> I figured it was causing F1 to reset. Put it on the bench and sure enough,
> it's drawing about 5.6A ... the manual is not terribly helpful about
> diagnosing.
>
> I opened it up and started removing boards. Can't really find anything.
> It would have been too easy if something in the battery charging circuitry
> had shorted ... With the switch "ON", +12V shows 105 ohms to ground.
> That can't be good.
>
> I'm not really sure how to diagnose this. The PA transistors seem
> like a place to start: the emitters are grounded, when the switch
> is OFF, the collectors have about 100 ohms to ground (can that be
> right?) , the base about 134 ohms.
>
> Suggestions would be quite welcome.
>
> 73 de chris K6DBG
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Top posting is the requested method on the Elecraft list for exactly the 
reasons Don gives below.

73,

Eric  WA6HHQ
Elecraft List Moderator
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-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm 
Date: Monday, Mar 23, 2009 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch
To: gdaug...@stanford.edu
CC: elecr...@mailman.qth.netreply-to: d...@w3fpr.com

I agree - If I do not find something relevant in the first few lines of 
the post, I usually delete it.
If you can surmise from that comment that *top posting* is important to 
me on an email reflector with as much traffic as we have here, then you 
are correct - I just don't have the available time nor patience to 
scroll down through a posting to find what has been added.  By the same 
token, in-line additions may sometimes be warranted, but I believe that 
should be the exception.
The "netiquite' stuff may be important in other discussions, but for 
what we are dealing with here, top posting is my preference.  Note that 
Eric says either is OK, so I am expressing my personal opinion.

73,
Don W3FPR

gdaug...@stanford.edu wrote:
 Folks,

> I find the following unreadable.  Is it just me?  I suggest sending your 
> posts in plain 
 text!

>   
> for PBT on CW, and separate volume controls for SPOT and sidetone
> near the top as well?--please??
> 73, Gary W7TEA
>  class="quote light-border-color">
> wayne burdick 
> wrote:
> All-mode squelch is near the top 
> of our firmware list.
> Wayne
> N6KR
> On Mar 23, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Radio Amateur N5GE wrote:
> > I've tried to set the squelch on both of my K3's following the
> > instructions in the manual and display, but cannot make them work
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[Elecraft] K2 resetting itself

[Chris Kantarjiev]

I was happily monitoring 14.058 this afternoon when my K2 turned itself off.
I cycled the power button and it came on enough to say ELECrAFT and to
hear a little audio, and then shut down. Then cycling the switch didn't
do anything. Or would do a little.

I figured it was causing F1 to reset. Put it on the bench and sure enough,
it's drawing about 5.6A ... the manual is not terribly helpful about
diagnosing.

I opened it up and started removing boards. Can't really find anything.
It would have been too easy if something in the battery charging circuitry
had shorted ... With the switch "ON", +12V shows 105 ohms to ground.
That can't be good.

I'm not really sure how to diagnose this. The PA transistors seem
like a place to start: the emitters are grounded, when the switch
is OFF, the collectors have about 100 ohms to ground (can that be
right?) , the base about 134 ohms.

Suggestions would be quite welcome.

73 de chris K6DBG
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch

[Radio Amateur N5GE]

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:40:01 -0400, "Guy Olinger, K2AV"
 wrote:

>As someone has pointed out to me on two earlier posts from the Nabble 
>client, something is amiss in the Nabble reply posts as evidenced below from 
>W7TEA. Isn't plain text always supposed to be there?
>

I checked the HTML with an HTML validation tool:  HTML Tidy for
Windows (vers 12 April 2005), see www.w3.org

The Nabble replies are missing the following tags:







[snip]

Tom, N5GE
K3 #806, K3 #1055
XV144, XV432
W1 and other small kits.
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[Elecraft] Nabble

[Radio Amateur N5GE]

It appears that Nabble is not sending well formed HTML when users
reply to posts from Nabble.

Here's what I get from Nabble


For a major change I can be very patient.  Thank you Wayne!
73, Gary W7TEA

wayne burdick
wrote:
On Mar 23, 2009, at 6:02
PM, W7TEA wrote:
> Wayne, a plaintive cry from the wilderness, are 10 hz
granularity
> for PBT on CW, and separate volume controls for SPOT and
sidetone
> near the top as well?--please??
Yes.
Thanks for your patience on the 10-Hz issue; it's going to
require a 
major change to the firmware.
73,
Wayne
N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch

[Don Wilhelm]

I agree - If I do not find something relevant in the first few lines of 
the post, I usually delete it.
If you can surmise from that comment that *top posting* is important to 
me on an email reflector with as much traffic as we have here, then you 
are correct - I just don't have the available time nor patience to 
scroll down through a posting to find what has been added.  By the same 
token, in-line additions may sometimes be warranted, but I believe that 
should be the exception.
The "netiquite' stuff may be important in other discussions, but for 
what we are dealing with here, top posting is my preference.  Note that 
Eric says either is OK, so I am expressing my personal opinion.

73,
Don W3FPR

gdaug...@stanford.edu wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I find the following unreadable.  Is it just me?  I suggest sending your 
> posts in plain 
> text!
>
>   
>> for PBT on CW, and separate volume controls for SPOT and sidetone
>> near the top as well?--please??
>> 73, Gary W7TEA
>> > class="quote light-border-color">
>> wayne burdick 
>> wrote:
>> All-mode squelch is near the top 
>> of our firmware list.
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> On Mar 23, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Radio Amateur N5GE wrote:
>> > I've tried to set the squelch on both of my K3's following the
>> > instructions in the manual and display, but cannot make them 
>> work
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[Elecraft] New K3 is born!!

[Terry Price]

 
After only 3 hrs of labor, K3/100 #2783 passed all tests and tx calibration
is complete. Made two quick contacts on 80m and it works great! It looks
nice next to its' older brother #965.

73,

Terry

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[Elecraft] K3 - Stand Alone Panadaptor

[Ken Kopp]

Rose and I will be beside Elecraft at Visalia 

Maybe we can bring one home .  

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Stand Alone Panadaptor

[James Sarte]

Oh my... that would be glorious!  I've been dying to have a standalone
spectrum scope that is computer-independent for some time.

73,
James KC2UEE

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Iain MacDonnell -
N6ML
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:09 AM
To: Joe Word
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Stand Alone Panadaptor



Joe Word wrote:
> Has anyone developed a stand alone Panadaptor  without the need for a
> computer? Is Elecraft considering this?

"Stay tuned" :)

 ~Iain / N6ML


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[Elecraft] Is this a "Nabble" thing?

[Ken Kopp]

- Original Message - 
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Tuesday, 24 March, 2009 02:32
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch



For a major change I can be very patient.  Thank you Wayne!
73, Gary W7TEA

wayne burdick wrote:
On Mar 23, 2009, at 6:02 PM, W7TEA 
wrote:
> Wayne, a plaintive cry from the wilderness, are 10 hz granularity
> for PBT on CW, and separate volume controls for SPOT and sidetone
> near the top as well?--please??
Yes.
Thanks for your patience on the 10-Hz issue; it's going to require a 
major change to the firmware.
73,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch

[Guy Olinger, K2AV]

As someone has pointed out to me on two earlier posts from the Nabble 
client, something is amiss in the Nabble reply posts as evidenced below from 
W7TEA. Isn't plain text always supposed to be there?

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch


>
> Wayne, a plaintive cry from the wilderness, are 10 hz granularity
> for PBT on CW, and separate volume controls for SPOT and sidetone
> near the top as well?--please??
> 73, Gary W7TEA
>  class="quote light-border-color">
> wayne burdick 
> wrote:
> All-mode squelch is near the 
> top of our firmware list.
> Wayne
> N6KR
> On Mar 23, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Radio Amateur N5GE wrote:
> > I've tried to set the squelch on both of my K3's following 
> the
> > instructions in the manual and display, but cannot make them 
> work
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch

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Folks,

I find the following unreadable.  Is it just me?  I suggest sending your posts 
in plain 
text!

> for PBT on CW, and separate volume controls for SPOT and sidetone
> near the top as well?--please??
> 73, Gary W7TEA
>  class="quote light-border-color">
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch

[W7TEA]

For a major change I can be very patient.  Thank you Wayne!
73, Gary W7TEA

wayne burdick wrote:
On Mar 23, 2009, at 6:02 PM, W7TEA 
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> Wayne, a plaintive cry from the wilderness, are 10 hz granularity
> for PBT on CW, and separate volume controls for SPOT and sidetone
> near the top as well?--please??
Yes.
Thanks for your patience on the 10-Hz issue; it's going to require a 
major change to the firmware.
73,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch

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On Mar 23, 2009, at 6:02 PM, W7TEA wrote:

> Wayne, a plaintive cry from the wilderness, are 10 hz granularity
> for PBT on CW, and separate volume controls for SPOT and sidetone
> near the top as well?--please??

Yes.

Thanks for your patience on the 10-Hz issue; it's going to require a 
major change to the firmware.

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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject), from K3 NB discussion

[VR2BrettGraham]

K2AV replied to AE6RH, who described a situation on 75m
where it appears he was hearing the Hainan woodpecker &
the K3's NB took it down by two S-units, following some
previous posts about the K3's NB effectiveness on this type
of impulse noise:

>NOTHING removes ALL noise.  The K3 can pretty much nail key clicks.  It also
>completely kills whatever my neighbor beyond my neighbor does in cold
>weather that I can see all the way up to VHF analog TV.  I'll take those two
>and smile about anything else only moderately reduced.
>
>I note at one point some had complained they couldn't eliminate some of the
>(Chinese?) jamming signals.  I would note that those signals were
>specifically DESIGNED to resist elimination.

Yes, no NB removes all the noise, but I doubt any
manufacturer has such a determined user group that tries
to explain anything untoward away.

The best example of this is the K2's screwdriver scratch
blanker.

Now we are told a simple, repetitive impulse train somehow
can be made not blankable, though perhaps K2AV is
referring to something else.

My other radios blanked the British over-the-horizon radar
quite well.  They also blanked the Chinese OTHR quite well,
as long as the pulses don't seem mushed up (we're close
enough here that we can hear the pulse & that pulse coming
a little later, not off a target, I guess from the backscatter
we also use sometimes to work people, all the OTHRs that
use the amateur bands have the sort of umph for it).  If I
can't make out the pulses myself, the NB can't & therefore
little if any blanking action with any NB.

These were old radios, like IC-765 & TS-950S.  Something
about old NBs, I recall a bloke here once found the
FTDX-400's (or something of that vintage) to have a
combination of simplicity & performance that is probably
worthy of copying outright as a replacement for the KNB2.

However a predictable impulse noise train (like OTHR) is
best blanked by feeding a noise gate with pulses of the
same repetition rate, with pulse width & phase of the train
adjustable by the operator.  We did such a product at AEA
something like a quarter century ago.

A trivial task for a DSP radio like the K3, I would imagine.

It is unfortunate that accuracy of the front panel clock or
further blurring of the distinction between SSB & CW modes
seems more important to the user community.  Maybe as
more & more countries fire up their OTHRs on the amateur
bands & conditions return so that they can be heard over
there, the community will change its tune.

73, ex-VR2BG/p.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch

[W7TEA]

Wayne, a plaintive cry from the wilderness, are 10 hz granularity
for PBT on CW, and separate volume controls for SPOT and sidetone
near the top as well?--please??
73, Gary W7TEA

wayne burdick wrote:
All-mode squelch is near the top of 
our firmware list.
Wayne
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> I've tried to set the squelch on both of my K3's following the
> instructions in the manual and display, but cannot make them work
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Spring Tune Up Final Update!

[Jack Regan]

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Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 5:34 PM
To: 'Jack Regan'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KX1 Spring Tune Up Final Update!

I have tested my output with my newly recalibrated KX1 at 13.9 VDC.

These are my outputs in watts:

4.0 on 80
3.3 on 40
4.3 on 30
2.9 on 20

Other than a possible tweaking of the output on twenty I think my spring
tune up is done!

This thread can be considered closed

Many thanks to Don Wilhem for all the help and guidance in getting my baby
reading for some serious backpacking!!!

Jack AE6GC

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Spring Tune Up Update

[Jack Regan]

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From: Jack Regan [mailto:ae...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 5:06 PM
To: 'Jack Regan'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KX1 Spring Tune Up Update

Don has pointed out that the formulas I posted did not appear as superscript
2, indicating a squaring function so I have changed the post to ^2 when
squaring is required. 

This update represents a more accurate determination of the power output AND
an adjustment of the KX1 so it would reflect these new, accurate power
measurements. 

The DL1 was used to determine the power output. Some initial confusion
occured becasue the DL1's formula for calculating power is not correct!

Many thanks to Don Wilhelm for helping sort this out!  He has been
responding with detailed, accurate and elegant suggestions re: what is going
on.

The DL1 manual formula is...

P(watts)=((V(volts)x1.414)+0.15))^2/50

Three things are going on here. The TP1 is connected to the 25 ohm output of
the resistor chain, the diode correction is not part of the rms correction
and the value of the diode is not as accurate as it could be.

Don's formula is...

P(watts)=((V(volts)+diode drop))^2/25

In his note to me re: this he "left the derivation to the student" and this
is the formula I came up with.

P(watts)=((V(volts)+diode drop))x 1.414))^2/50

When my formula produced a result different than Don's (by a very small
positive amount) I jumped to the conclusion that Don's formula was quick and
easy ballpark technique! Wrong! 

The difference in our figures was that Don used the square root of two
whereas I used the "standard" approximation 1.414! 

I will follow Don's lead and leave the derivation to the student! If you
email me I will send you a copy of Don's math!!! Very simple and elegant!

To continue...

 

I measured my diode drop and found it to be .330mv so the formula for my DL1
is

P(watts)=((V(volts)+0.33))^2/25 or

P(watts)=((V(volts)+0.33))x (sq. root of 2))^2/50

Taking accurate measurements and finding (as previously posted) that the KX1
was showing too high an output I took Don's advice and redid the C9 and the
Forward Power adjustments on the KX1.

After adjusting the KX1 to show the same readings as the DL1 I now have the
following baseline figures on the KX1 with 12VDC(DISP:BAT).

FREQ TP1 VDC  TP1 WATTS   KX1 WATTS   KX1 SWR

 3.550   7.84 2.602.6 1.0

 7.040   7.34 2.302.3 1.0

10.120   8.45 3.253.24-3.26   1.0

14.050   7.03 2.192.201.0

With the new baseline the agenda has changed. 

1.   If in fact these outputs are significantly low then correct them thru
 adjustments, not modifications. They are higher than the 9 VDC specs
 but are they far enough below the 12VDC specs to bother with. I'll do
 some reading and research and then decide.  Any input or suggestions
 would be appreciated.

2.Explore the possibility of increasing the power output to a full 5
  watts. Don has pointed out the fact that more than just the
  oscillator, final rf transistor and toroids are involved in putting 
  out more than 4 watts.  Perhaps an out board power amp using the KX1
  as a VFO would be the way to go! QST has had several
  articles on power amp construction lately!

3.Understand why the Scope and the DL1 are not showing the same results.

4.Get the scope to match the DL1.

Again, just for the record, the KX1 is working on all bands.


Jack AE6GC

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch

[wayne burdick]

All-mode squelch is near the top of our firmware list.

Wayne
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On Mar 23, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Radio Amateur N5GE wrote:

> I've tried to set the squelch on both of my K3's following the
> instructions in the manual and display, but cannot make them work


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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Spring Tune Up Update

[Don Wilhelm]

Jack,

You need to put an 'exponential' symbol between those parentheses and 
the "2" in those formulas - the voltage must be squared where the 
formulas you included indicate multiplying by 2.

For your power output level, it *may* be a bit low.  Check the output 
with a 13.8 volt supply voltage - if it does not come up close to the 4 
watt level on 30 meters (highest output band), you may want to add the 
"Power Mod" - it is just 2 resistors to change.
For those with KX1s already producing 4 watts or more on 30 meters, I do 
not recommend adding the power mod - see my prior responses on that 
subject.

73,
Don W3FPR

Jack Regan wrote:
> This update represents a more accurate determination of the power output AND
> an adjustment of the KX1 so it would reflect these new, accurate power
> measurements.
>
>  
>
> The DL1 was used to determine the power output. Some initial confusion
> occured becasue the DL1's formula for calculating power is not correct!
>
>  
>
> Many thanks to Don Wilhelm for helping sort this out!  He has been
> responding with detailed, accurate and elegant suggestions re: what is going
> on.
>
> The DL1 manual formula is...
>
>
>
> P(watts)=((V(volts)x1.414)+0.15))2/50
>
>  
>
> Three things are going on here. The TP1 is connected to the 25 ohm output of
> the resistor chain, the diode correction is not part of the rms correction
> and the value of the diode is not as accurate as it could be.
>
>  
>
> Don's formula is...
>
>
>
> P(watts)=((V(volts)+diode drop))2/25
>
>  
>
> In his note to me re: this he "left the derivation to the student" and this
> is the formula I came up with.
>
>  
>
> P(watts)=((V(volts)+diode drop))x 1.414))2/50
>
>  
>
> When my formula produced a result different than Don's (by a very small
> positive amount) I jumped to the conclusion that Don's formula was quick and
> easy ballpark technique! Wrong!
>
>  
>
> The difference in our figures was that Don used the square root of two
> whereas I used the "standard" approximation 1.414!
>
>  
>
> I will follow Don's lead and leave the derivation to the student! If you
> email me I will send you a copy of Don's math!!! Very simple and elegant!
>
>  
>
> To continue...
>
>  
>
> I measured my diode drop and found it to be .330mv so the formula for my DL1
> is
>
> P(watts)=((V(volts)+0.33))2/25 or
>
> P(watts)=((V(volts)+0.33))x (sq. root of 2))2/50
>
>  
>
> Taking accurate measurements and finding (as previously posted) that the KX1
> was showing too high an output I took Don's advice and redid the C9 and the
> Forward Power adjustments on the KX1.
>
>  
>
> After adjusting the KX1 to show the same readings as the DL1 I now have the
> following baseline figures on the KX1 with 12VDC(DISP:BAT).
>
>  
>
>  
>
> FREQ TP1 VDC  TP1 WATTS   KX1 WATTS   KX1 SWR
>
>  3.550   7.84 2.602.6 1.0
>
>  7.040   7.34 2.302.3 1.0
>
> 10.120   8.45 3.253.24-3.26   1.0
>
> 14.050   7.03 2.192.201.0
>
>  
>
> With the new baseline the agenda has changed.
>
>  
>
> 1.   If in fact these outputs are significantly low then correct them thru
>  adjustments, not modifications. They are higher than the 9 VDC specs
> but are they
>  far enough below the 12VDC specs to bother with. I'll do some reading
> and research
>  and then decide.  Any input or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>  
>
> 2.Explore the possibility of increasing the power output to a full 5
> watts.
>   Don has pointed out the fact that more than just the oscillator, final
> rf
>   transistor and toroids are involved in putting out more than 4 watts.
> Perhaps an
>   out board power amp using the KX1 as a VFO would be the way to go!
> QST has had several
>   articles on power amp construction lately!
>
>  
>
> 3.Understand why the Scope and the DL1 are not showing the same results.
>
>  
>
> 4.Get the scope to match the DL1.
>
>  
>
> Again, just for the record, the KX1 is working on all bands.
>
>  
>
> Jack AE6GC
>
>  
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Re: [Elecraft] Six-meter scanning

[David Woolley]

Graham Kimbell (G3TCT) wrote:
> Given that the FCC has no jurisdiction outside the US, can we non-US guys be
> given a fix for this?  And what's so wrong about scanning outside ham bands
> anyway - I've been listening to band 1 TV carriers for decades!

I think that the original quote said outside ham and broadcast bands.

However, as you are the UK, it is illegal to listen, let alone scan, on 
most frequencies outside those bands.  The US position used to be you 
could listen to anything.  They then added restrictions for cellular 
frequencies.  The UK starting position is that you can listen to 
nothing, and then the government uses class licences and paid for 
licences, to selectively relax that.

What the UK does tend to do is ban reception based on use/intention, 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Problem

[Don Wilhelm]

Phil,

The loss in coax (especially a long run) *will* reduce the SWR measured 
at the shack end.  If the loss is great enough and a fault is far enough 
down the coax line, the  measured SWR can be quite low, even 1.0:1.  In 
other words, the SWR at the shack end will always be less than at the 
antenna - just how much lower depends on the loss in the coax.

73,
Don W3FPR

Phil LaMarche wrote:
> Thank you to all the wonderful hams who sent emails to help me this weekend.
> Thinking I had a K3 problem and really didn't.  However, I don't
> understand.I wasn't able to connect with anyone for 7-28 MHz even though
> the Pal Star watt meter showed 100 watts and little SWR.  In desperation and
> eliminating other possibilities, I put an analyzer on the coax to the beam
> and it measured infinity across it's range.  I obviously have a coax or beam
> problem.  BUT, why did the power meter read as it did?  If that had been
> screwy, I would have immediately checked the antenna.  Antenna guys are
> coming Friday and soon I'll be happily on the air again.
>  
> What a wonder reflector and company to offer help for what ever the problem.
> I'm so glad I have a K3.
>  
> Phil
>  
>
> Philip LaMarche 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY MODE

[Don Wilhelm]

Brian,

Do not be put off by those who believe that "radio quality" audio cannot 
be generated by a soundcard.  That may have been true with cheap 
soundcards a long time ago, but most soundcards available now will 
produce pure audio tones with very little distortion - so unless you 
have a totally antique computer soundcard, it will do AFSK RTTY or PSK 
just fine.  Many are doing it, and I dare say that the problems are not 
with the soundcard itself, but with some hams overdriving the audio 
input of the transceiver.

You have already heard that your proposed solution will not work - but 
there is a 'close relative' that will generate RTTY, PSK or CW from 
keyboard input and send it to the K3.  Look at the K3Utility Terminal 
tab.  Reception is on the screen and you would receive in PSK D or FSK D 
data modes.  It is not exotic, but it works FB as a quick solution - 
tune the desired signal with a narrow filter.

Other computer software packages will do all that the K3Utility Terminal 
will do and a lot more too, but they do use the soundcard for both 
transmit and receive.  DigiPan is one of the easiest, Ham Radio Deluxe 
with DM780 is one of my favorites and is free - others prefer the full 
featured MixW.

73,
Don W3FPR

Brian Machesney wrote:
> Don,
>
> I am a "digital mode neophyte." Is it possible - or, is it considered to be
> too much of a kludge - to receive a digital mode (be it PSK or RTTY) via PC
> soundcard and send CW to the K3 for translation into the digital mode? It
> seems that this would avoid some of the pitfalls associated with using a PC
> to generate "radio quality" audio. Do you know if any of the popular
> programs does this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian K1LI
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>
>   
>> Dick,
>>
>> Rather than using SSB mode for data, use the DATA modes, it is less
>> troublesome and compression is set to zero automatically..
>> Use DATA A mode for soundcard digital modes, or AFSK A for soundcard
>> RTTY.  See page 31 of the K3 manual.  With good carrier balance, an AFSK
>> signal is equal to an FSK signal.  The K3 AFSK A data mode sets the mark
>> frequency in the VFO (rather than the carrier frequency), and allows use
>> of the dual passband filter which is designed for RTTY use.
>> The narrow roofing filters and the full range of DSP filters can be used
>> for DATA modes if you configure the narrow filters for receive in that
>> mode.  Transmit must always use the 2.7 or 2.8 kHz filters, but the K3
>> figures out the arithmetic involved.
>>
>> If you wish to use the FSK input to the K3, you will have to provide a
>> level translation and drive the FSK input on the ACC connector.  MMTTY
>> has methods of activating the FSK input.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> Richard W. Solomon wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anyone have any idea when they will upgrade to Keyboard operation
>>> for RTTY ? Now, I mean using real FSK, not this sound card AFSK stuff.
>>>
>>> In some radios, AFSK requires you to use the SSB mode, which does not
>>> allow filter selection. The Yaesu does.
>>>
>>> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>>>
>>>
>>>   
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch

[Radio Amateur N5GE]

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:08:40 + (UTC), w...@comcast.net wrote:

>
>I believe squelch only works on FM for now.
>
>Terry

Aw Shucks!

I was afraid of that.  Still listening to VHF and UHF white noise here
;o)

Thanks,

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[Elecraft] K3 Problem

[Phil LaMarche]

Thank you to all the wonderful hams who sent emails to help me this weekend.
Thinking I had a K3 problem and really didn't.  However, I don't
understand.I wasn't able to connect with anyone for 7-28 MHz even though
the Pal Star watt meter showed 100 watts and little SWR.  In desperation and
eliminating other possibilities, I put an analyzer on the coax to the beam
and it measured infinity across it's range.  I obviously have a coax or beam
problem.  BUT, why did the power meter read as it did?  If that had been
screwy, I would have immediately checked the antenna.  Antenna guys are
coming Friday and soon I'll be happily on the air again.
 
What a wonder reflector and company to offer help for what ever the problem.
I'm so glad I have a K3.
 
Phil
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY MODE

[Greg - AB7R]

Cannot do this as the software sending CW would be straight CW being sent to 
the CW 
input jack.  PSK-D and FSK-D from CW is only capable from the paddles input.

But it only takes a very simple interface using a transistor and resistor using 
the 
circuit described on the AA5AU website from a COM port to pins 1 and 5 on the 
ACCY 
connector.

-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065


On Mon Mar 23 13:16 , Brian Machesney  sent:

>Don,
>
>I am a "digital mode neophyte." Is it possible - or, is it considered to be
>too much of a kludge - to receive a digital mode (be it PSK or RTTY) via PC
>soundcard and send CW to the K3 for translation into the digital mode? It
>seems that this would avoid some of the pitfalls associated with using a PC
>to generate "radio quality" audio. Do you know if any of the popular
>programs does this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Brian K1LI
>
>On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dick,
>>
>> Rather than using SSB mode for data, use the DATA modes, it is less
>> troublesome and compression is set to zero automatically..
>> Use DATA A mode for soundcard digital modes, or AFSK A for soundcard
>> RTTY.  See page 31 of the K3 manual.  With good carrier balance, an AFSK
>> signal is equal to an FSK signal.  The K3 AFSK A data mode sets the mark
>> frequency in the VFO (rather than the carrier frequency), and allows use
>> of the dual passband filter which is designed for RTTY use.
>> The narrow roofing filters and the full range of DSP filters can be used
>> for DATA modes if you configure the narrow filters for receive in that
>> mode.  Transmit must always use the 2.7 or 2.8 kHz filters, but the K3
>> figures out the arithmetic involved.
>>
>> If you wish to use the FSK input to the K3, you will have to provide a
>> level translation and drive the FSK input on the ACC connector.  MMTTY
>> has methods of activating the FSK input.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> Richard W. Solomon wrote:
>> > Does anyone have any idea when they will upgrade to Keyboard operation
>> > for RTTY ? Now, I mean using real FSK, not this sound card AFSK stuff.
>> >
>> > In some radios, AFSK requires you to use the SSB mode, which does not
>> > allow filter selection. The Yaesu does.
>> >
>> > 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch

[Wes Stewart]

In playing with the scanning feature I've seen that there is some measure of 
squelch even in SSB, in that the receiver scans quietly until it encounters a 
signal and then pauses with the audio active for a time and then resumes 
scanning.

My magic decoder ring has not pointed me to how the sensitivity or the delay 
time are adjusted, however.


--- On Mon, 3/23/09, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> From: Don Wilhelm 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch
> To: n...@n5ge.com
> Cc: "Elecraft" 
> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 1:11 PM
> Tom,
> 
> Are you in FM mode?  Currently the squelch only works in
> FM.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> Radio Amateur N5GE wrote:
> > I've tried to set the squelch on both of my
> K3's following the
> > instructions in the manual and display, but cannot
> make them work.
> >
> > I set them both to SQ MAIN = Sub Pot, but when I turn
> the Sub Pot I
> > get the message "SQL N/A".
> >
> > What have I done wrong?
> >
> > Tom, N5GE
> >   
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY MODE

[Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604]

And as has been pointed out by one of the G's here, a PICAXE-18X can be
VERY easily programmed to use a PS2 keyboard to send FSK, PSK and CW,
using the KY command, when connected to the serial port.

I've still got the K40 that I used with my IC756PRO once upon a time
in a similar role.

I can give further details if anyone is interested.

73, doug

   Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:42:47 -0700
   From: Iain MacDonnell - N6ML 

   Richard W. Solomon wrote:
   > Does anyone have any idea when they will upgrade to Keyboard operation
   > for RTTY ? Now, I mean using real FSK, not this sound card AFSK stuff.

   If you're talking about plugging a keyboard directly into the K3, I
   don't think there's any plan to implement that.

   "Real" FSK is already available via the accessory port, but the
   keyboard-to-FSK has to be done externally (commonly by software like
   MMTTY).

   K1EL's K40 interface kit apparently allows use of a PS/2 keyboard to
   generate FSK without a computer, but his website still says it's out
   of stock.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY MODE

[Brian Machesney]

Don,

I am a "digital mode neophyte." Is it possible - or, is it considered to be
too much of a kludge - to receive a digital mode (be it PSK or RTTY) via PC
soundcard and send CW to the K3 for translation into the digital mode? It
seems that this would avoid some of the pitfalls associated with using a PC
to generate "radio quality" audio. Do you know if any of the popular
programs does this?

Thanks,

Brian K1LI

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Dick,
>
> Rather than using SSB mode for data, use the DATA modes, it is less
> troublesome and compression is set to zero automatically..
> Use DATA A mode for soundcard digital modes, or AFSK A for soundcard
> RTTY.  See page 31 of the K3 manual.  With good carrier balance, an AFSK
> signal is equal to an FSK signal.  The K3 AFSK A data mode sets the mark
> frequency in the VFO (rather than the carrier frequency), and allows use
> of the dual passband filter which is designed for RTTY use.
> The narrow roofing filters and the full range of DSP filters can be used
> for DATA modes if you configure the narrow filters for receive in that
> mode.  Transmit must always use the 2.7 or 2.8 kHz filters, but the K3
> figures out the arithmetic involved.
>
> If you wish to use the FSK input to the K3, you will have to provide a
> level translation and drive the FSK input on the ACC connector.  MMTTY
> has methods of activating the FSK input.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> Richard W. Solomon wrote:
> > Does anyone have any idea when they will upgrade to Keyboard operation
> > for RTTY ? Now, I mean using real FSK, not this sound card AFSK stuff.
> >
> > In some radios, AFSK requires you to use the SSB mode, which does not
> > allow filter selection. The Yaesu does.
> >
> > 73, Dick, W1KSZ
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for March 22nd & 23rd, 2009

[Mike-WE0H]

What operating system are you running on that computer? hi hi...

Mike
WE0H
K2 6698
Linux user of course...hi hi


Kevin R wrote:
> Good Morning,
>Sorry about the late report but just as I was going to send it out last 
> night it went away.  I do not know how or why, it simply disappeared in front 
> of my eyes; strange.  snipped...
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY MODE

[Iain MacDonnell - N6ML]

Richard W. Solomon wrote:
> Does anyone have any idea when they will upgrade to Keyboard operation
> for RTTY ? Now, I mean using real FSK, not this sound card AFSK stuff.

If you're talking about plugging a keyboard directly into the K3, I
don't think there's any plan to implement that.

"Real" FSK is already available via the accessory port, but the
keyboard-to-FSK has to be done externally (commonly by software like
MMTTY).

K1EL's K40 interface kit apparently allows use of a PS/2 keyboard to
generate FSK without a computer, but his website still says it's out
of stock.


> In some radios, AFSK requires you to use the SSB mode, which does not
> allow filter selection. The Yaesu does.

Not sure if there's a question there? The K3 *does* allow filtering
(including dual-passband) in "AFSK A" mode, as well as in "FSK D" mode.

 ~Iain / N6ML

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY MODE

[Lee Buller]

I have found the AFSK stuff works quite well with the K3.  I am using the 
SignaLink USB with N1MM logger and have made a couple of thousand QSOs on 
RTTY.  I have no issue with the RX because you can used any filter in AFSK Data 
mode.  Any filter.  So, you do not use the SSB filter at all.  I used my 500 Hz 
filter and knock it down to 300 Hz with the DSP and works great!  So, this is 
not an issue.

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--- On Mon, 3/23/09, Richard W. Solomon  wrote:
From: Richard W. Solomon 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY MODE
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 12:12 PM

Does anyone have any idea when they will upgrade to Keyboard operation
for RTTY ? Now, I mean using real FSK, not this sound card AFSK stuff.

In some radios, AFSK requires you to use the SSB mode, which does not
allow filter selection. The Yaesu does.

73, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY MODE

[Don Wilhelm]

Dick,

Rather than using SSB mode for data, use the DATA modes, it is less 
troublesome and compression is set to zero automatically..
Use DATA A mode for soundcard digital modes, or AFSK A for soundcard 
RTTY.  See page 31 of the K3 manual.  With good carrier balance, an AFSK 
signal is equal to an FSK signal.  The K3 AFSK A data mode sets the mark 
frequency in the VFO (rather than the carrier frequency), and allows use 
of the dual passband filter which is designed for RTTY use.
The narrow roofing filters and the full range of DSP filters can be used 
for DATA modes if you configure the narrow filters for receive in that 
mode.  Transmit must always use the 2.7 or 2.8 kHz filters, but the K3 
figures out the arithmetic involved.

If you wish to use the FSK input to the K3, you will have to provide a 
level translation and drive the FSK input on the ACC connector.  MMTTY 
has methods of activating the FSK input.

73,
Don W3FPR

Richard W. Solomon wrote:
> Does anyone have any idea when they will upgrade to Keyboard operation
> for RTTY ? Now, I mean using real FSK, not this sound card AFSK stuff.
>
> In some radios, AFSK requires you to use the SSB mode, which does not
> allow filter selection. The Yaesu does.
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>   
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and PSK31 Data Mode and ESSB

[Jim Brown]

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:15:39 -0700 (PDT), Bill Strong wrote:

>Plenty of QRN on the low bands especially in the summer. I meant the local
>man-made stuff.

I understand, and that was my point. Reducing the total bandwidth at the 
input of the sound card from 2.8 kHz to 200 Hz will make a signficant 
improvement in the signal to noise ratio. It won't matter on strong 
stations, but it can help a lot on weak stations. 

My QTH is fairly quiet too, but never dead quiet (unless the band is dead). 
A few nights ago, K6SRZ (about 80 miles N of me) spotted 4U1UN as "ESP on 
the West Coast" on 160M. He was ESP at my QTH too, with some QSB -- at 250 
Hz bandwidth. I screwed the IF down to 100 Hz and was able to copy him, just 
barely. I waited for his signal to peak, and worked him. This was CW, but 
the same laws of physics apply to PSK31. :) 

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch

[Don Wilhelm]

Tom,

Are you in FM mode?  Currently the squelch only works in FM.

73,
Don W3FPR

Radio Amateur N5GE wrote:
> I've tried to set the squelch on both of my K3's following the
> instructions in the manual and display, but cannot make them work.
>
> I set them both to SQ MAIN = Sub Pot, but when I turn the Sub Pot I
> get the message "SQL N/A".
>
> What have I done wrong?
>
> Tom, N5GE
>   
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch

[w8zn]

I believe squelch only works on FM for now.

Terry
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[Elecraft] K3 Squelch

[Radio Amateur N5GE]

I've tried to set the squelch on both of my K3's following the
instructions in the manual and display, but cannot make them work.

I set them both to SQ MAIN = Sub Pot, but when I turn the Sub Pot I
get the message "SQL N/A".

What have I done wrong?

Tom, N5GE

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for March 22nd & 23rd, 2009

[Kevin Rock]

Good Morning,
   Sorry about the late report but just as I was going to send it out last 
night it went away.  I do not know how or why, it simply disappeared in front 
of my eyes; strange.  So, instead of creating it again as an email I am 
crafting it in a text editor and I will cut and paste it into an email 
document.  This also provides me with more space to see the report in progress. 
 This morning it is still snowing.  There is only a light dusting on the ground 
but it has been snowing and hailing off and on for the last day.  My daffodils 
are in defense mode; they are hiding underground for the most part.  Hopefully 
they will keep tucked in until the weather turns warmer.  Yesterday I made a 
journey into town and found some flowers blooming at my neighbors house 400 
feet lower down the mountain.  Finally the snow drops are starting.  Another 
week and they should start up here.
   Yesterday evening, during the forty meter net, there was some odd 
propagation.  When I first heard Dale I thought his rig was having some sort of 
problem.  I heard a distinct AC hum on his tone.  Then I checked in Pete who 
was clear until QSB brought his signal strength up.  At that point I heard the 
same buzzing sound.  It was my rig getting overloaded by the strong signals not 
their rigs sending it.  Dale was placed such that his signal was simply 
overpowering mine.  If I would have thought of it I could have put an 
attenuator inline.  As the forty meter progressed I found QSB on every signal I 
heard and in every report I received.  Odd conditions but good enough to elicit 
a decent response to my calls.  

On to the lists =>

   On 14050 kHz at 2300z:
N0SS - Tom - MO - K3 - 008
K1THP - Dave - CT - K3 - 1535
N0TA - John - CO - K3 - 994
AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398
K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422
K9ZTV - Kent - MO - K3 - 21 
K7SJ - Roger - WA - K3 - 75* QNI #105 *
K6DGW - Fred - CA - K3 - 897   * QNI #120 *
NS7P - Phil - OR - K3 - 1826 QNI #20!! 
W6JDB - Jay - CA - K3 - 1288
N6JW - John - CA - K3 - 936
K2HYD - Ray - NC - KX1 - 608
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866
N7KRT - Jeff - TX - K2 - 5471
KS7D - Mike - FL - K3 - 118

   On 7044.75 kHz at 0100z:
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 - 1472
KS7D - Mike - FL - K3 - 118  QNI #25!!
W0NTA - Dick - CO - K3 - 1208
W6SU - John - CA - K3 - 1303 QNI #15!!
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K3 - 657* QNI #165 *
N0TA - John - CO - K3 - 994
K1THP - Dave - CT - K3 - 1535
W6JDB - Jay - CA - K3 - 1288 QNI #5!
KL7CW - Rick - AK - KX1 - 798
N7KRT - Jeff - TX - K2 - 5471
K4YYX - Randy - TN - K2 - 555
K7SJ - Roger - WA - K3 - 75
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866  * QNI #175 *
WB5BKL - Nick - TX - K3 - 231

   If there are any errors please email them to me so I can fix my database.  I 
am really using a spreadsheet and not a true database system.  This is because 
my methods changed over time and spreadsheets allow this whereas databases are 
pretty rigid in their development.  One needs to know what they want to do in 
the future before a database can be initiated.  A spreadsheet is more flexible 
in this regard.  I have now come to my question.  I need to create a compound 
if statement.  If this then do that or if this2 then do that2.  Can anyone give 
me a pointer on how to do this strange query and response?  Can it even be 
done?  I expect someone out there has run into something similar and can give 
me a hint ;)  
   Uck, it just started snowing again.  I know the calendar says spring, the 
sun rises and sets in its spring locations, however the weather is not 
cooperating at all.  Please send: warm weather, sunshine, flowers, and 
hummingbirds; they would be much appreciated!  It is a good day to stay inside 
next to the fire and work on the computers.  I should be able to keep at least 
three of them running today with my various projects. 
   Until next week stay warm and stay well,
  73,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 3.03 introducing artifacts?

[Guy, K2AV]

.k8dd. wrote:
I have not tried this - I don't seem to have any 
birdies on the CW frequencies that I use, but from what you say - you are not 
removing birdies, you are moving them out of the way and then when you change 
frequencies to where you moved the birdie you would have to move it back?
73    Hank    K8DD


As soon as the small frequency segment containing the birdie is past, the K3 
transparently restores the normal conversion frequency regimes. All the 
arithmetic is done for you. Birdies are shifted out only in segments that the 
operator chooses to identify in the elimination procedure. Birdies differ in 
frequency and level from radio to radio, and even whether they surface at all. 
 Fewer birdies surface using the usual CW bandwidths.
To Barry, there is not supposed to be a hole.  Contact Elecraft 
with your specifics.
73, Guy.
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Re: [Elecraft] Six-meter scanning

[Graham Kimbell (G3TCT)]

Given that the FCC has no jurisdiction outside the US, can we non-US guys be
given a fix for this?  And what's so wrong about scanning outside ham bands
anyway - I've been listening to band 1 TV carriers for decades!

Graham

>David Woolley (E.L) wrote


> Wes Stewart wrote:
> > There was some talk about it being an FCC limitation. However, (other
> > than receivers that cover the cellular phone bands, with their own
> > special limitations) the pertinent regulation seems to be covered in 47
> > CFR 15.5 (definitions) where I read:
>
> My understanding is that the problem is that they have to prove to the
> FCC that scanning is disabled outside the amateur band, and there is a
> cost in doing this.  I imagine they would have to repeat the process
> every time they issued new firmware.
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[Elecraft] K3 RTTY MODE

[Richard W. Solomon]

Does anyone have any idea when they will upgrade to Keyboard operation
for RTTY ? Now, I mean using real FSK, not this sound card AFSK stuff.

In some radios, AFSK requires you to use the SSB mode, which does not
allow filter selection. The Yaesu does.

73, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 3.03 introducing artifacts?

[Barry N1EU]

Guy, K2AV wrote:

Jerry Lockett wrote:
If one uses the new birdie removal feature, can you 
then receive
normal signals at that spot, or does a 'hole' remain there that would
prevent one from receiving any signal at that same spot?
regards, Jerry


You will hear normal signals. There is no hole.  


This weekend I removed a birdie on 20m ssb and did notice a "hole" in 
the tuning - tuning seemed to jump 100hz+/- as I was tuning in a ssb station 
that was right on the "cleansed" frequency.  I undid the birdie 
removal because the faint birdie was preferable to the tuning jump.
73,
Barry N1EU

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Re: [Elecraft] From Alaska, good reading

[Julius Fazekas n2wn]

Use to live up dat way ;o) Norton and Mansfield back in da days when the 
outer loop was being built. Love New England, even the weather (lived in RI, Ct 
and Me) :o)
That was posted on the 4SQP site, I had not seen it before, but was 
very well done and worth sharing. Glad you found it fun reading... even with 
the snow.
We had snow here, and it even lasted more than a day! Didn't kill off 
enough bugs tho!
Catch ya on the air (sending warmer wx your way)
72,
j
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] From Alaska, good reading
> To: "Julius Fazekas n2wn" phriend...@...>
> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 11:35 AM
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> Julius Fazekas n2wn wrote:
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> 
> > Some good ideas for antenna launching and on CW, plus
> fun pictures!
> 
> >   
> 
> 
> Thank you Julius,
> 
> Neat reading in magazine format for all.
> 
> Something about QRP and satellites too.
> 
> However, I believe most folks will agree:
> 
> Don't wanna see pix with snow (shudder) in it anymore!
> (smile)
> 
> 
> Ron, wb1hga
> 
> We thinking Summah heah, in MA!
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and PSK31 Data Mode

[ww2r2]

Last weekend I had good success with using the rs232 port on the sdriq (with 
spectravue beta 10) to control the k3. It got over the issue that my netbook 
only has usb ports 

Dave 

ww2r

> Message: 18
> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:22:03 -0400
> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and PSK31 Data Mode and ESSB
> To: "'Erik N Basilier'" ,
>   
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 
> 
>  
> 
>> A better approach is to set the K3 bandwidth very narrow, and 
>> use a panadapter to produce a waterfall that is independent of 
>> the real receive bandwidth (and which can thus be much wider 
>> than any of the K3 roofing filters).
> 
> Absolutely!  I've been playing with an RFSpace SDR-IQ and a beta 
> version of Spectravue.  It provides panadapter and waterfall that 
> can be set anywhere from 1 to 190 KHz wide ... clicking on it will 
> tune the K3 to put the narrow filters in the right place.  N8LP's 
> LP-Pan and PowerSDR should also be able to provide the same 
> capability.  
> 
> SDR-IQ and SpectraVue work very well with microHAM Router since 
> SpectraVue's new external panadapter function can use Router's 
> 2nd CAT port to control the K3 at the same time as a logger and 
> digital mode package like DXLab Suite or HRD/DM780.  
> 
> 73,  
> 
>... Joe, W4TV 
>   
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 3.03 introducing artifacts?

[.k8dd.]

Guy, K2AV wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Jerry Lockett wrote:
>> 
>> If one uses the new birdie removal feature, can you then receive
>> normal signals at that spot, or does a 'hole' remain there that would
>> prevent one from receiving any signal at that same spot?
>> 
>> regards, Jerry
>> 
> 
> You will hear normal signals. There is no hole.  The K3 is making
> offsetting changes to conversion frequencies which produce the same RX
> frequency and at the same time shift the birdies off your listening
> frequency. The birdies are harmonics and IM off the individual conversion
> frequencies.
> 
> 73, Guy
> 

---
I have not tried this - I don't seem to have any birdies on the CW
frequencies that I use, but from what you say - you are not removing
birdies, you are moving them out of the way and then when you change
frequencies to where you moved the birdie you would have to move it back?

73HankK8DD
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 3.03 introducing artifacts?

[Guy, K2AV]

Jerry Lockett wrote:
> 
> If one uses the new birdie removal feature, can you then receive
> normal signals at that spot, or does a 'hole' remain there that would
> prevent one from receiving any signal at that same spot?
> 
> regards, Jerry
> 

You will hear normal signals. There is no hole.  The K3 is making offsetting
changes to conversion frequencies which produce the same RX frequency and at
the same time shift the birdies off your listening frequency. The birdies
are harmonics and IM off the individual conversion frequencies.

73, Guy
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[Elecraft] K3: Firmware 3.03 introducing artifacts?

[Jerry -n6jp-]

If one uses the new birdie removal feature, can you then receive
normal signals at that spot, or does a 'hole' remain there that would
prevent one from receiving any signal at that same spot?

regards, Jerry

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Re: [Elecraft] From Alaska, good reading

[ron]

Julius Fazekas n2wn wrote:
> http://www.kl7aa.net/newsletters/2005/2005_DEC_NLTR.pdf
>
> Some good ideas for antenna launching and on CW, plus fun pictures!
>   

Thank you Julius,
Neat reading in magazine format for all.
Something about QRP and satellites too.
However, I believe most folks will agree:
Don't wanna see pix with snow (shudder) in it anymore! (smile)

Ron, wb1hga
We thinking Summah heah, in MA!

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Re: [Elecraft] How long to complete K3 "master reset?"

[Lyle Johnson]

> I pressed and held the K3 power switch until the "MCU LD" message appeared -
> that was over a half-hour ago. How long should this take to complete?

You now need to load the MCU firmware.  The message indicates the MCU is 
ready to load, or is loading, from the serail (RS232) port.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] Low SubRX audio below 20m

[Brian Machesney]

Bob,

That fixed the problem. Thanks for the suggestion - the "master reset" is
always the last resort!

73 - Brian - K1LI

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Robert Ansell wrote:

>  Hi Brian, yes I've experienced this and for me the fix was to do a hard
> reset but do not under any circumstances upload your config settings. Mine
> were for some reason corrupted. I did this and balance returned to center!
> Make sure you copy down on paper all your settings and put them back by
> hand. I wrote them all down rebooted then got them all back with a recal on
> the rig and mine was fixed. Talked to Elecraft on this one so the info comes
> from them. don't forget to save everything when you are done. Just for
> giggles I assume that you did a double strike on transfering all from vfo a
> to vfo b RIGHT?
>
> Bob Ansell
> K1WGM
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* nekvts...@gmail.com
> *To:* Elecraft reflector 
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:01 PM
> *Subject:* [Elecraft] Low SubRX audio below 20m
>
> On 30m and below, the sub RX audio is much lower in level than the main
> RX.
> I am set up to use the "SUB" audio control as the "balance" control
> between
> the main and SubRX audio levels (SPKRS: 2, SPKR+PH: no, SUB AF: balance).
> Both receivers get their RF from the main antenna. On 20m and above, this
> works fine - adjusting the control to the 12 o'clock position "centers"
> the
> stereo audio image between the two speakers. On 30m and below, however,
> the
> sub RX audio is much lower - the "balance" control is at about 3 o'clock
> (ie, injecting a much smaller amount of main RX audio) to "center" the
> stereo image. Thus, I have to "ride" this control when changing bands.
>
> I am using the latest "public" firmware revision, but I believe I have had
>
> this problem for some time. I did purchase "matched" filters for the main
> and sub RX's, and I have re-checked to ensure that they are set up with
> the
> same parameters. The state of the AFX control has no perceptible effect
> and
> I see that AF GAIN and AF LIM cannot be set differently for main and sub
> RX.
>
> Any thoughts on what is causing this? I don't see any previous mention in
> the reflector archives.
>
> Brian K1LI K3 #2435 -- K2 #2070 -- K1 #270
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Re: [Elecraft] How long to complete K3 "master reset?"

[Dick Dievendorff]

Pressing and holding the Power button forces the K3 MCU into a "boot load"
state, not "master reset".  You now need to reload the MCU firmware.

Or you can remove power from the K3 (I pull the power connectors off the
back of the radio), wait 20 seconds or so, and then plug it back in.  

You may still have firmware loaded.

But the radio is going to sit in MCU LD state until it either receives a new
firmware load or you cycle the power.

Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian Machesney
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:17 AM
To: Elecraft reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] How long to complete K3 "master reset?"

I pressed and held the K3 power switch until the "MCU LD" message appeared -
that was over a half-hour ago. How long should this take to complete?

Trying to solve the "low sub RX audio" problem.

Brian K1LI
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[Elecraft] How long to complete K3 "master reset?"

[Brian Machesney]

I pressed and held the K3 power switch until the "MCU LD" message appeared -
that was over a half-hour ago. How long should this take to complete?

Trying to solve the "low sub RX audio" problem.

Brian K1LI
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 <> Hiel Proset

[Julius Fazekas n2wn]

I'm not real thrilled with the ProSet headphones either, kinda muffled (and
have new elements installed) and requires more drive. The mic is great on
the plus side.

It's always a joy to put my cheap Sony Walkman headset back on... Alas, no
mic with these.

73,
Julius


Evert Bakker (PA2KW) wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>  
> 
> As this question is about peripherals, I don't know if it is allowed to,
> but
> I give it a try. (if not let me know).
> 
> I bought (locally) a Heil-Proset with the HC4 element to use in combi with
> the K3.
> 
> I used to have a 20 year old Telex (very tiny headphone, mono wired and no
> microphone). I'm still very happy with it as its designed for
> telecommunications use.
> 
> But with the KRX3 installed, it's time for the stereo set.
> 
>  
> 
> When I listen to stronger stations (more volume) it sounds like "clouds
> with
> a silver line" where the silver line is a very distorted high frequency
> product of the signal I'm listening to.
> 
> It's annoying and tiring. What can it be? Has this something to do with
> the
> AF distortion in the K3 (SN0812 and SN2185, FW 2.78 / D1 1.98, D2 1.98 and
> both the same effect) as was discussed earlier on the reflector.
> 
>  
> 
> Any idea?
> 
>  
> 
> Later tonight I'll get my Drake TR7 running again and see if the effect is
> also there (I just guess not).
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
>  
> 
> 73's, Evert PA2KW
> 
>  
> 
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[Elecraft] From Alaska, good reading

[Julius Fazekas n2wn]

http://www.kl7aa.net/newsletters/2005/2005_DEC_NLTR.pdf

Some good ideas for antenna launching and on CW, plus fun pictures!

73,
Julius
n2wn

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