[Elecraft] [K3] K3 ACC Connector

2009-05-11 Thread Joe G

Hello all

I just purchased an Ameritron ALS-600 amp which does band switching. For
bandswitching, they suggest interfacing it with the K3 through their ARI-500
( for cabling reasons).

This set up for the K3 uses the ACC LP Key Out pin to key the amp...not the
Key Out RCA jack.

The Amp will not key...if I put 40W in I get 40W out.
Bandswitching works fine.

If I hook the K3 and the ALS-600 in the non bandswitch mode and use the Key
Out RCA jack the amp keys fine.

I would appreciate any help

Joe
W1JGS


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 ACC Connector

2009-05-11 Thread Robert Naumann
Joe,

Use the ACC for the band switching connection and use the KEY OUT to do the
PTT. In other words, separate cables.

73,

Bob W5OV

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Hello all

I just purchased an Ameritron ALS-600 amp which does band switching. For
bandswitching, they suggest interfacing it with the K3 through their ARI-500
( for cabling reasons).

This set up for the K3 uses the ACC LP Key Out pin to key the amp...not the
Key Out RCA jack.

The Amp will not key...if I put 40W in I get 40W out.
Bandswitching works fine.

If I hook the K3 and the ALS-600 in the non bandswitch mode and use the Key
Out RCA jack the amp keys fine.

I would appreciate any help

Joe
W1JGS


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[Elecraft] Any Dayton related specials this year?

2009-05-11 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn

Just checking to see if there are any last minute Dayton Specials from
Elecraft this year. Not going to be able to make it, so might as well put
the hotel savings to good use ;o)

73,
Julius

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Tennessee Contest Group
http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html

Tennessee QSO Party
http://www.tnqp.org/

Elecraft K2/100 #4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366
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[Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-11 Thread Bill Maddock
I would like to find or build an external speaker for my K3. I want something 
that sounds good,will match closely and is realitively efficent like 92 db @ 1 
watt/meter! -What is everyone using?
Thanks and 73,

Bill N4ZI  K3 #1059  K3 #2914
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[Elecraft] Fw: Re: External speakers for K3?

2009-05-11 Thread WILLIS COOKE




 I use a pair of amplified Labtec computer speakers.  They
 sound good, have convenient headset and mike inputs, volume
 and balance controls.  I don't think they look
 particularly good, but you can find computer speakers of all
 types.  Some you will need to RFI doctor with ferrite beads.
  They are inexpensive to buy but I had these in my closet
 from a junked computer.
 
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
 K5EWJ
 
 
 --- On Mon, 5/11/09, Bill Maddock n4z...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Bill Maddock n4z...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 10:11 AM
  I would like to find or build an external speaker for
 my K3.
  I want something that sounds good,will match closely
 and is
  realitively efficent like 92 db @ 1 watt/meter! -What
 is
  everyone using?
  Thanks and 73,
  
  Bill N4ZI  K3 #1059  K3 #2914
 
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Ellington
By match closely, do you mean physical appearance or impedance?
Speaker characteristics for SSB and CW may differ. The best overall 
compromise I've found over the past 45 years is the Heathkit HS-1661. It is 
very efficient, as in LOUD, has a thick aluminum cabinet with no vibration 
or peaky resonance. Radio Shack sells a replacement speaker that fits 
perfectly if needed.
For CW only, the MFJ ClearTone, MFJ-281 is hard to beat. It peaks strongly 
at 700 Hz and is very sensitive. Cost about $12.
The HS-1661 shows up on Ebay occasionally and usually sells for about $30 or 
so. I painted mine black.
Modern stereo speakers will work but they usually have higher power ratings 
and require more power. Amplified speakers will also work well but could be 
affected by RFI depending on brand and model.
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
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Subject: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?


I would like to find or build an external speaker for my K3. I want 
something that sounds good,will match closely and is realitively efficent 
like 92 db @ 1 watt/meter! -What is everyone using?
 Thanks and 73,

 Bill N4ZI  K3 #1059  K3 #2914
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-11 Thread mzilmer

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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-11 Thread Peter Howson
Go for two, then you can take advantage of AFX.

I use two small black communications speakers, designed for vehicle mounting and
optimised for voice and are only 3-4 mm taller than the K3 -- one either side.
Really does enhance AFX on SSB and they look good too. And they were less
than GBP 7 each!

Peter
GM8GAX




I would like to find or build an external speaker for my K3. I want something
that sounds good,will match closely and is realitively efficent like 92 db @ 1
watt/meter! -What is everyone using?
Thanks and 73,

Bill N4ZI  K3 #1059  K3 #2914


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[Elecraft] External speakers for K3 - A caution

2009-05-11 Thread Ken Kopp
Caution!  Do -not- plug a mono plug into the external
speaker jack.  Audio output IC failure will likely occur,
as a mono plug shorts one half of the IC.

73! Ken Kopp - k0pp
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3 - A caution

2009-05-11 Thread wayne burdick
Ken Kopp wrote:

 Caution!  Do -not- plug a mono plug into the external
 speaker jack.  Audio output IC failure will likely occur,
 as a mono plug shorts one half of the IC.

This can only happen if you have CONFIG:SPKRS set to 2. If you set it 
to 1, the right speaker channel is turned off, so a mono plug can be 
safely used.

In addition to this, an upcoming beta firmware release detects the case 
where SPKRS is set to 2, a mono plug is inserted, and speaker volume is 
set to a moderate or high level. (The firmware looks for excess 
receive-mode current drain due to the AF amp IC going into thermal 
shutdown.) If this happens, the K3 will automatically set SPKRS to 1, 
reminding you with a brief flashed message.

73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] External speakers for K3

2009-05-11 Thread Craig Smith
I've been quite pleased with the Comspkr from West Mountain Radio.  Good sound, 
small size, volume and low cut controls, no RFI and a pair is quite reasonably 
priced.

 73   Craig   AC0DS


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[Elecraft] K3: Elecraft Utility and second receiver

2009-05-11 Thread Erik N Basilier
I installed the second receiver recently, and am totally addicted to the 
diversity reception. Using my R5 vertical as the second antenna, with my 
horizontal beam for the main. The R5 is of course useless as a transmit antenna 
on 40, but it picks up enough signal for receive (no tuner on it). Haven't put 
any extra roofing filters in the second receiver, and with the lower received 
signal strength on the vertical I doubt that I will need to. 

Now to my question: The Utility happily loaded the DSP firmware into the second 
receiver, but I didn't see how to set up the roofing filter configuration from 
the Utility, so I did it using the radio's menus. Surely I am missing something 
in the Utility? (Running the latest Utility and the latest firmware.)

73,
Erik K7TV
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Elecraft Utility and second receiver

2009-05-11 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML


Erik N Basilier wrote:
 I installed the second receiver recently, and am totally addicted to the 
 diversity reception. Using my R5 vertical as the second antenna, with my 
 horizontal beam for the main. The R5 is of course useless as a transmit 
 antenna on 40, but it picks up enough signal for receive (no tuner on it). 
 Haven't put any extra roofing filters in the second receiver, and with the 
 lower received signal strength on the vertical I doubt that I will need to. 
 
 Now to my question: The Utility happily loaded the DSP firmware into the 
 second receiver, but I didn't see how to set up the roofing filter 
 configuration from the Utility, so I did it using the radio's menus. Surely I 
 am missing something in the Utility? (Running the latest Utility and the 
 latest firmware.)

There should be a radio buttons in the bottom-left corner of the
Cyrstal Filter COnfiguration dialog that allow you to select Main
or Sub Receiver... ?

 ~Iain / N6ML

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[Elecraft] K3: N1MM for Field Day

2009-05-11 Thread Erik N Basilier
I just proposed to our Field Day chief that we use my K3 this year (with extra 
precautions to avoid power interruptions, and with a computer available for 
re-loading the firmware if necessary). BTW I first did some hurried testing 
with the K3 running off my linear Astron PSU cranked down to 11.0 V (only 10.5 
V indicated on the K3 at 100W due to cable drop). At this low voltage and 100W 
there seemed to be a slight increase in IMD; none at 65W.

I now have some experience with N1MM (but not for FD) and like it a lot. So, I 
also suggested we try it for FD, along with the computer infrastructure needed. 
Somehow, it just seems harder and harder to get along without a computer 
What we have been doing for FD is using a DOS program on an ancient laptop for 
logging... The initial response from the FD chief is concern about log format 
for submission. I mentioned the information available in the N1MM manual. 

Question: I think many of you already used N1MM for FD last year. If so, could 
you please send me some detail of the steps you went through to combine the 
N1MM output with other information to create the complete submission?

Thanks,

73,
Erik K7TV
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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3 - A caution

2009-05-11 Thread Joe Planisky
Wasn't the mod described at 
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf 
  intended to prevent the IC failure if a mono plug was used?  Did it  
not work as well as expected?  Or is the firmware detection just belt  
and suspenders protection in case someone didn't do the hardware mod?

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On May 11, 2009, at 11:30 AM, wayne burdick wrote:


 This can only happen if you have CONFIG:SPKRS set to 2. If you set it
 to 1, the right speaker channel is turned off, so a mono plug can be
 safely used.

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[Elecraft] K3: Reloading firmware to resolve problems?

2009-05-11 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML

I keep seeing references to reloading (the same version of) K3 firmware
to resolve problems. Are there actually any known issues that are
resolved by reloading firmware? Does the firmware contain any sort of
checksum that's verified before a new load is committed? It seems like
bad firmware loads should not be allowed to happen... is this problem
solution a myth?

 ~Iain / N6ML


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[Elecraft] K3 Power supply

2009-05-11 Thread Merv Schweigert
The past couple of days I have noticed the noise level on the K3 has
gone up a couple of S units and on 20 meters and there were tunable
hash signals.I started to try and find the problem and using another
receiver I find the Astron SS-30 is generating all sorts of noise. 
I have used this supply for some time and have not noticed the noise
before.   I drug out an old backup supply MFJ-4245 and behold it
also has a lot of tunable hash signals on 20 meters.  
Wonder what supplies are being used with the K3?  Or if anyone has
had luck on cleaning up the switcher supplies like the Astron? 
I suspect it could be due to age and caps going bad,  the supply has
been in use for 8 years. 
There are no locally available parts so before I try and recap and order
ferrites etc like to know what works if anything. 
Thanks  Merv KH7C
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: N1MM for Field Day

2009-05-11 Thread Wes Stewart

Why don't you just use N3FJP's Field Day logger instead?




  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power supply

2009-05-11 Thread WILLIS COOKE

I am using a Jetstream JTPS28M and I am  happy.  I have a few birdies, but I am 
not sure which come from the switching supply and which come from the computer. 
 They don't give me enough trouble that I have investigated. The JTPS28M is 
only $99.95 so I am not sure it is worth trouble shooting and changing caps.  
The rule of thumb for electrolytic capacitors that that I learned year ago was 
to change them after 7 years.  I suspect that modern caps are better than the 
ones we had in 1960, but that still may be your problem.  There are plenty of 
places to buy caps on the internet and I don't know any place that it is more 
convenient to buy local.  I live in the Houston area and still need to buy such 
things by internet.  Fry's is only 5 miles away but if they have the part in 
stock they will have one when I need four.  EPO will have four that are old 
stock or surplus that may not be any better than the one removed.  So I buy 
from Allied or one of the other
 on line vendors, wait a week and save the gas.

Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ


--- On Mon, 5/11/09, Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com wrote:

 From: Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Power supply
 To: 
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 12:19 PM
 The past couple of days I have noticed the noise level on
 the K3 has
 gone up a couple of S units and on 20 meters and there were
 tunable
 hash signals.I started to try and find the problem and
 using another
 receiver I find the Astron SS-30 is generating all sorts of
 noise. 
 I have used this supply for some time and have not noticed
 the noise
 before.   I drug out an old backup supply MFJ-4245 and
 behold it
 also has a lot of tunable hash signals on 20 meters.  
 Wonder what supplies are being used with the K3?  Or if
 anyone has
 had luck on cleaning up the switcher supplies like the
 Astron? 
 I suspect it could be due to age and caps going bad,  the
 supply has
 been in use for 8 years. 
 There are no locally available parts so before I try and
 recap and order
 ferrites etc like to know what works if anything. 
 Thanks  Merv KH7C
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power supply

2009-05-11 Thread Milt, N5IA

- Original Message - 
From: Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com

 I started to try and find the problem and using another
 receiver I find the Astron SS-30 is generating all sorts of noise.
 I have used this supply for some time and have not noticed the noise
 before.

Merv,

For weight considerations, the SS-30 supplies were selected for the Ducie 
Island expedition this past year.

This problem you mention, or a very similar one, was evident during the 
VP6DX expedition from the time that Robin started making tests while 
underway on the Braveheart from ZL to FO.

We added extra filtering internally.

We grounded extensively.

We cleaned the case cover screw holes both on the main chassis and on the 
cover to improve bonding to the cover.  We were never able to make them 
clean.  All supplies performed in the exact same manner.

We were float charging small batteries to keep the K-3s and the ancillary 
equipment running while the gensets were being refueled and having oil 
changed.  The extra capacitance of the battery helped with the DC filtering 
but most of the stuff was of a frequency that the battery and other 
filtering could not remove.  And we couldn't keep it inside the case.

The fact remains that the harmonics of the switcher were a very real problem 
for us, especially on the lower frequency bands.  The most annoying 
situation was the harmonic signal moving around, slowly up and down the band 
such that we could not avoid it at times when we were in the middle of a 
tough one on 160 and were trying to dig it out of the noise floor.  We had 
to wait until the birdie slowly slithered on by or many times I just reached 
and turned the SS-30 off during a difficult contact.

73 de Milt, N5IA

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power supply

2009-05-11 Thread Paul Christensen
 Wonder what supplies are being used with the K3?

Merv,

For the shack, I gave up on switch-mode power supplies since I could not 
find one that produced a low noise floor on all bands.  For years, I was 
unknowingly putting up with a high-level noise floor until I purchased the 
SDR-IQ and began seeing broad bumps in the viewed spectra response.  The 
bumps were attributed to switch mode power supplies, switch-mode wall 
supplies, and some USB adapters.  By changing switch-mode back to old linear 
technology and a combination of changing the USB adapters as well as using 
multi-wound #31 ferrite cores (wound K9YC style) on both ends of the USB 
cables, I finally have a flat noise floor on all bands.

I am sure there are quiet switch-mode supplies out there.  But with all the 
other noise sources I have to contend with, I don't want to be asking myself 
if some new grunge I'm hearing in the future is attributed to my power 
supply.

My guess is that many of us are living with high noise floors from 
switch-mode products and do not realize it -- until a PAN adapter is added 
and the noise floor can be seen.  Spotting sharp switch-mode and LAN-type 
grunge is easy without a PAN adapter, but it's the very broad noise (e.g., 
gentle rise and fall over 100 kHz) that's deceptive when one tunes the band.

The shack supply here is now a surplus linear Agilent 6652A.  These sell new 
in the $4K range but are only a few hundred $$ if you catch the right 
on-line sales for surplus product.

Paul, W9AC 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power supply

2009-05-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Merv, if you're suddenly getting hash from two formerly-clean switchers, I'd
suspect something else, such as a bad mains ground on the circuit feeding
the supplies or a change in the rig's grounding system that is now
introducing some sort of a ground loop return. 

Have you made any changes to your antenna situation lately? If feeding with
coax, are the shields intact and properly terminated at the rig? 

After over 50 years of fixing electronics, I've yet to find two similar
failures in separate gear that were coincident, no matter how often I've
tried to convince myself I was finally experiencing the first time. It's
always something in common to both. 

As for power supplies in general, my linear Astron 20 handles my K3 FB. (I
don't try to crowd out an extra 1/10 of an S-unit above 100 watts by running
the power control wide open keeping the demand comfortably within the
Astron's 20 amp ICAS ratings on CW/SSB. If I want to run a 100% duty cycle
mode such as RTTY, I back down the power.) 

The linear supplies may be heavy, but I don't take mine back-packing (the
extension cord would weigh more than the supply if I did ;-) So it sits
under the operating desk where I don't care how heavy it might be.

Ron AC7AC

  



-Original Message-
The past couple of days I have noticed the noise level on the K3 has
gone up a couple of S units and on 20 meters and there were tunable
hash signals.I started to try and find the problem and using another
receiver I find the Astron SS-30 is generating all sorts of noise. 
I have used this supply for some time and have not noticed the noise
before.   I drug out an old backup supply MFJ-4245 and behold it
also has a lot of tunable hash signals on 20 meters.  
Wonder what supplies are being used with the K3?  Or if anyone has
had luck on cleaning up the switcher supplies like the Astron? 
I suspect it could be due to age and caps going bad,  the supply has
been in use for 8 years. 
There are no locally available parts so before I try and recap and order
ferrites etc like to know what works if anything. 
Thanks  Merv KH7C

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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3 - A caution

2009-05-11 Thread wayne burdick

On May 11, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Joe Planisky wrote:

 Wasn't the mod described at 
 http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf intended to 
 prevent the IC failure if a mono plug was used?

The bleeder resistor modification helps prevent an instantaneous 
current surge when an mono plug is inserted, and is definitely 
recommended. It has already been phased into production.

The new firmware provides protection in the case where high 
right-channel speaker volume, in conjunction with the insertion of a 
mono plug, results in extended high current drain at the AF amp chip.

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power supply

2009-05-11 Thread John W2XS


 I find the Astron SS-30 is generating all sorts of noise. 

For the past year, I have used an Astron RS-35A (linear = heavy) with
excellent electrical results.  Just yesterday, I removed the power
transformer mounting screws and added rubber equipment feet as isolators and
remounted the transformer. This eliminated the annoying audible (not
electrical) hum that I had been putting up with all this time.

73,

John W2XS


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] NR distortion with 3.11

2009-05-11 Thread NZ0T

I should add that I recently changed my AGC settings to those suggested by
Don W3FPR to make the K3 sound more like a K2:

AGC PLS off
AGC SLP 002
AGC THR 008
AGC-F 140
AGC-S 010

Any other AGC settings that are better? Could these settings affect the NR
in a bad way?  I work a lot of CW but also some SSB on 160 and that's where
I noticed the NR sounding bad. .


NZ0T wrote:
 
 I don't use NR much and tonight was the first time I've tried it since
 downloading 3.11.It seems to be very distorted even at the lowest
 setting and when I rotate the level knob I hear a clicking sound in the
 audio.  Anyone else had this occur?
 

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[Elecraft] K3 - Data A pitch

2009-05-11 Thread Stewart Rolfe

Seen this asked before but without response so does anyone know if it's 
possible to change the centre frequency of the audio in Data A?

It's about 1500 Hz at the moment and wouldn't mind being able to drop it a bit 
unless there's a good reason not to.?

Also my (old) manual suggests you should be able to use the dual passband 
filter for rtty while in Data A but I assume this was a mistake?

Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF (K3 145)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Data A pitch

2009-05-11 Thread Lyle Johnson
 Seen this asked before but without response so does anyone know if it's 
 possible to change the centre frequency of the audio in Data A?

Yes, just set the SHIFT and WIDTH controls to your liking.

 Also my (old) manual suggests you should be able to use the dual passband 
 filter for rtty while in Data A but I assume this was a mistake?


DATA:FSK or DATA:AFSK only.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] External speakers for K3?

2009-05-11 Thread Brendan Minish
Bill Maddock wrote:
 I would like to find or build an external speaker for my K3. I want
 something that sounds good,will match closely and is realitively
 efficent like 92 db @ 1 watt/meter! -What is everyone using? Thanks
 and 73,

For general communications use I am very fond indeed of the speakers 
Motorola made for their various mobile rigs over the years, They are 
very cheap, efficient and sound great for good quality communications 
audio. These are not Hifi speakers but for speech / CW they do a superb job.

Mostly they seem to be a pretty close match in size and colour for the 
K3 too.

Some of them are 2 Ohm though, The ones I use with My K3 at the moment 
are 2 Ohm ones, Since I do not know for sure if the AF amp in the K3 is 
happy driving an impedance this low I stuck a 2Ohm 2W resistor in series 
with each speaker and still have more than enough audio in my shack.

I have seen these available in 4Ohm and amplified variants too. Pretty 
much every radio in the shack is connected to a Moto speaker and I still 
buy them at rallies, collecting stuff I might need someday must be habit

Anyone know if the can K3 drive a 2Ohm speaker without bad stuff 
happening ?

73
Brendan EI6IZ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Data A pitch

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Ellington
But if you do that, you won't be able to take advantage of your narrow 
filters for PSK31 etc. because your filter will fall outside the passband. 
Looks to me like you better leave your FC where it is at 1500 Hz unless you 
like hearing wide spectrum and don't mind the QRM.
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com
To: gw0...@btinternet.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Data A pitch


 Seen this asked before but without response so does anyone know if it's 
 possible to change the centre frequency of the audio in Data A?

 Yes, just set the SHIFT and WIDTH controls to your liking.

 Also my (old) manual suggests you should be able to use the dual passband 
 filter for rtty while in Data A but I assume this was a mistake?


 DATA:FSK or DATA:AFSK only.

 73,

 Lyle KK7P

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[Elecraft] K3 screws

2009-05-11 Thread rfenabled
Hi,

Has anyone else noticed the screws that hold the K3 case together appear to 
rust over time?

Not a show stopper but they do look a little sad one year on.

Yes I could drop some black hobby enamel paint on them but this seems a little 
odd to me that after just one of owning the radio now the only blemish I notice 
is the screws have now appeared to be *rusty*.

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Data A pitch

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Ellington
Please pass over my previous post about pitch. You can indeed change FC and 
retain use of narrow filtering. Just remember to change the FC in whatever 
software you're using.
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com
To: Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com; gw0...@btinternet.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Data A pitch


 But if you do that, you won't be able to take advantage of your narrow
 filters for PSK31 etc. because your filter will fall outside the passband.
 Looks to me like you better leave your FC where it is at 1500 Hz unless 
 you
 like hearing wide spectrum and don't mind the QRM.
 Steve Ellington
 n...@carolina.rr.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com
 To: gw0...@btinternet.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 5:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Data A pitch


 Seen this asked before but without response so does anyone know if it's
 possible to change the centre frequency of the audio in Data A?

 Yes, just set the SHIFT and WIDTH controls to your liking.

 Also my (old) manual suggests you should be able to use the dual 
 passband
 filter for rtty while in Data A but I assume this was a mistake?


 DATA:FSK or DATA:AFSK only.

 73,

 Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power supply

2009-05-11 Thread Merv Schweigert
Milt, N5IA wrote:

 - Original Message - From: Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com

 I started to try and find the problem and using another
 receiver I find the Astron SS-30 is generating all sorts of noise.
 I have used this supply for some time and have not noticed the noise
 before.

 Merv,

 For weight considerations, the SS-30 supplies were selected for the 
 Ducie Island expedition this past year.

 This problem you mention, or a very similar one, was evident during 
 the VP6DX expedition from the time that Robin started making tests 
 while underway on the Braveheart from ZL to FO.

 We added extra filtering internally.

 We grounded extensively.

 We cleaned the case cover screw holes both on the main chassis and on 
 the cover to improve bonding to the cover.  We were never able to make 
 them clean.  All supplies performed in the exact same manner.

 We were float charging small batteries to keep the K-3s and the 
 ancillary equipment running while the gensets were being refueled and 
 having oil changed.  The extra capacitance of the battery helped with 
 the DC filtering but most of the stuff was of a frequency that the 
 battery and other filtering could not remove.  And we couldn't keep it 
 inside the case.

 The fact remains that the harmonics of the switcher were a very real 
 problem for us, especially on the lower frequency bands.  The most 
 annoying situation was the harmonic signal moving around, slowly up 
 and down the band such that we could not avoid it at times when we 
 were in the middle of a tough one on 160 and were trying to dig it out 
 of the noise floor.  We had to wait until the birdie slowly slithered 
 on by or many times I just reached and turned the SS-30 off during a 
 difficult contact.

 73 de Milt, N5IA
The noise floor with the switchers has always been a problem,  but the 
increase is what was
bugging me, and happy to have it confirmed  that they are somewhat 
incurable,  thought it was just me,
have done about all that Milt describes and still has noise. 
The past couple days its has just increased by 2 DB on the meter, in 
other words on 20 meters
the K3 is hovering around s4 to s5 noise floor,  compared to turning off 
the switchers and K3
and listening on a Ft-1000D it has a noise floor of S0.  
I guess its back to an old transformer supply,  had been trying to stay 
away from that due to the
shipping weight etc.  Thanks for all the input.  
73 Merv KH7C



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 screws

2009-05-11 Thread Erik N Basilier
I have not noticed any rust (haven't had the K3 outside the home). However, 
when I put the case back together after recent hardware mod's and second rx 
installation, I had a couple of cases where the conical part of the screw 
head first touched the widest part of the conical hole in the panel, and 
rubbed off some of the paint from the panel before tightening of all screws 
caused the screws to be almost centered. So, I would be interested in 
knowing the best choice of touch-up paint.

73,
Erik K7TV

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From: rfenab...@gmail.com
To: Elecraft Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:41 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 screws


Hi,

Has anyone else noticed the screws that hold the K3 case together appear to 
rust over time?

Not a show stopper but they do look a little sad one year on.

Yes I could drop some black hobby enamel paint on them but this seems a 
little odd to me that after just one of owning the radio now the only 
blemish I notice is the screws have now appeared to be *rusty*.

Gary
Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 screws

2009-05-11 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Black Permanent Felt-Tip Pen
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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think. -Aristotle, philosopher (384-322 BCE)

On 12 May 2009, at 00:14, Erik N Basilier wrote:

 I have not noticed any rust (haven't had the K3 outside the home).  
 However,
 when I put the case back together after recent hardware mod's and  
 second rx
 installation, I had a couple of cases where the conical part of the  
 screw
 head first touched the widest part of the conical hole in the panel,  
 and
 rubbed off some of the paint from the panel before tightening of all  
 screws
 caused the screws to be almost centered. So, I would be interested in
 knowing the best choice of touch-up paint.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power supply

2009-05-11 Thread Erik N Basilier
Merv,

My experience with the FT-1000D was that the S-meter didn't start to move 
until the actual signal strength reached S-5 or so. But yes, I believe you 
when you say that the switching power supply creates a lot of noise, and the 
one in the FT-1000D doesn't.

73,
Erik K7TV

- Original Message - 
From: Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com
To: Milt, N5IA n...@zia-connection.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power supply


 Milt, N5IA wrote:

 - Original Message - From: Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com

 I started to try and find the problem and using another
 receiver I find the Astron SS-30 is generating all sorts of noise.
 I have used this supply for some time and have not noticed the noise
 before.

 Merv,

 For weight considerations, the SS-30 supplies were selected for the
 Ducie Island expedition this past year.

 This problem you mention, or a very similar one, was evident during
 the VP6DX expedition from the time that Robin started making tests
 while underway on the Braveheart from ZL to FO.

 We added extra filtering internally.

 We grounded extensively.

 We cleaned the case cover screw holes both on the main chassis and on
 the cover to improve bonding to the cover.  We were never able to make
 them clean.  All supplies performed in the exact same manner.

 We were float charging small batteries to keep the K-3s and the
 ancillary equipment running while the gensets were being refueled and
 having oil changed.  The extra capacitance of the battery helped with
 the DC filtering but most of the stuff was of a frequency that the
 battery and other filtering could not remove.  And we couldn't keep it
 inside the case.

 The fact remains that the harmonics of the switcher were a very real
 problem for us, especially on the lower frequency bands.  The most
 annoying situation was the harmonic signal moving around, slowly up
 and down the band such that we could not avoid it at times when we
 were in the middle of a tough one on 160 and were trying to dig it out
 of the noise floor.  We had to wait until the birdie slowly slithered
 on by or many times I just reached and turned the SS-30 off during a
 difficult contact.

 73 de Milt, N5IA
 The noise floor with the switchers has always been a problem,  but the
 increase is what was
 bugging me, and happy to have it confirmed  that they are somewhat
 incurable,  thought it was just me,
 have done about all that Milt describes and still has noise.
 The past couple days its has just increased by 2 DB on the meter, in
 other words on 20 meters
 the K3 is hovering around s4 to s5 noise floor,  compared to turning off
 the switchers and K3
 and listening on a Ft-1000D it has a noise floor of S0.
 I guess its back to an old transformer supply,  had been trying to stay
 away from that due to the
 shipping weight etc.  Thanks for all the input.
 73 Merv KH7C



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] NR distortion with 3.11

2009-05-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Yes, the low slope (and perhaps the threshold) for my AGC settings 
increases the apparent NR distortion.  So you have to make a decision 
better AGC response or clearer audio when using NR.
Since I rarely use NR, I have made my choice.

It may be that someday soon we may 'have our cake and eat it too' when 
Lyle works on the NR algorithms, but for now we have to make those choices.

73,
Don W3FPR

NZ0T wrote:
 I should add that I recently changed my AGC settings to those suggested by
 Don W3FPR to make the K3 sound more like a K2:

 AGC PLS off
 AGC SLP 002
 AGC THR 008
 AGC-F 140
 AGC-S 010

 Any other AGC settings that are better? Could these settings affect the NR
 in a bad way?  I work a lot of CW but also some SSB on 160 and that's where
 I noticed the NR sounding bad. .

   
   
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[Elecraft] NUE-PSK and the K3/100

2009-05-11 Thread Gene Worth
I'm querying the group regarding the NUE-PSK settings and an Elecraft K3 
... I'm having some trouble getting the transmit settings correctly. 
Here's what I've done so far ... after Googling, reading,  and 
experimenting ...

MODE: Data A
Power set at 20 watts
Line Out is from the back of the K3 with the Lin Out menu setting at 20
Line In is to the mic jack wired like NUE-PSK cabling document suggests.
Line In menu setting is FP:L (Front Panel Low and no bias)
Mic Gain is 30 ... I put the K3 into TX Test mode, then F8 on the modem 
to throw it into transmit. I adjusted the Mic Gain and the NUE pot to 
get barely one bar on the ALC meter. Any more ALC than this causes the 
K3 to show ALC spikes episodically to 6+ bars with great transmit sound 
distortion. I can only imagine how the signal looks.

Through Google, I found several folks doing different types of setups 
with the K3, so I read all their suggestions and tried to adapt them. I 
never did get the 4 bars of ALC setting to be satisfactory. It seemed 
that I was greatly overdriving the output. On the other hand, the 
NUE-PSK information about the K3 suggests no ALC bars showing.

The above settings give me 1 bar on the RF out ... so 10 watts or less.

I didn't get any responses on 20meters this morning to CQ so I don't 
have any feedback on proper settings. Does anyone have any other 
suggestions for the K3 setup?

Finally, I'm not a beginner with PSK31, but I am new to this interface 
with the K3 ... I have searched the Elecraft relector archives but 
didn't find anything specific to the NUE-PSK ...

Thanks in advance. I take the Digest so will take awhile to respond, 
unless you respond off list ...

gene
WG7GW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 screws

2009-05-11 Thread Frank Ross W4NHJ
I wonder if a dab of black candle wax on the conical portion of the screw 
head would give some lubercation and prevent the paint from scratching?

Frank

- Original Message - 
From: Erik N Basilier ebasil...@cox.net
To: rfenab...@gmail.com; Elecraft Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 screws


I have not noticed any rust (haven't had the K3 outside the home). However,
when I put the case back together after recent hardware mod's and second rx
installation, I had a couple of cases where the conical part of the screw
head first touched the widest part of the conical hole in the panel, and
rubbed off some of the paint from the panel before tightening of all screws
caused the screws to be almost centered. So, I would be interested in
knowing the best choice of touch-up paint.

73,
Erik K7TV

- Original Message - 
From: rfenab...@gmail.com
To: Elecraft Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:41 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 screws


Hi,

Has anyone else noticed the screws that hold the K3 case together appear to
rust over time?

Not a show stopper but they do look a little sad one year on.

Yes I could drop some black hobby enamel paint on them but this seems a
little odd to me that after just one of owning the radio now the only
blemish I notice is the screws have now appeared to be *rusty*.

Gary
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[Elecraft] K2: HRD Power Control Anomaly

2009-05-11 Thread Randy Moore
I'm operating my K2/100 (KPA100+KAT100 in EC2) from Ham Radio Deluxe, 
which works just great.  But just now I was playing around with the HRD 
power control slider and discovered some anomalies. 

If I set the power on the K2 to say 50w, then move the HRD power slider 
down to  11 w, the LCD power readout on the K2 follows the HRD slider 
down appropriately, but the KAT100 PWR RANGE LED stays in HIGH.  If I 
then transmit, the power is actually what I set it to (11w).  So does 
that mean that I'm driving the KPA100 at QRP levels instead of using the 
K2 PA and bypassing the KPA100???  Moving the slider to other power 
levels (without moving the K2 power control) results in the same thing - 
power out follows the HRD slider, but the PWR RANGE LED stays at HIGH no 
matter if the power is set to 11w.

Now if I start with the K2 power control at 11w, first of all, HRD 
displays 10x the actual power setting (i.e., 100 for 10w).  That's easy 
to get used to.  But if I crank the HRD slider up beyond 10w (e.g., HRD 
slider to 150 or 15w), the actual power output, and the K2 LCD power 
display, go to 15w, but the KAT100 PWR RANGE LED stays in LOW.  Again 
does that mean that I'm driving the K2 PA to 15w and not going through 
the KPA100???

Is this a HRD issue or a K2 CAT command issue???

Kinda strange!

73,
Randy, KS4L
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: N1MM for Field Day

2009-05-11 Thread K8TB
If I may, there is a very simple, yet effective field day only 
logging program:

http://www.qsl.net/kc8opv/squirl-fd/

Very free. Run it on old laptops, it works just fine.

tom K8TB

p.s., runs very well with K1's, K2's and K3's :)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power supply

2009-05-11 Thread Paul

The past couple of days I have noticed the noise level on the K3 has
gone up a couple of S units and on 20 meters and there were tunable
hash signals.I started to try and find the problem and using another
receiver I find the Astron SS-30 is generating all sorts of noise.

Have you checked the PC Board mounting/grounding screws?

On two SS-30's here, the PC Board mounting screws were loose, new, 
right out of the box. And they all had a dab of paint on them.  Go figure.

Paul N4LCD 

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Re: [Elecraft] squirl-FD - linux

2009-05-11 Thread Ray Cadmus
I just tried this via WINE on Linux - worked FB.

FWIW

73,

ray W0PFO


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from:  K8TB

If I may, there is a very simple, yet effective field day only 
logging program:

http://www.qsl.net/kc8opv/squirl-fd/

Very free. Run it on old laptops, it works just fine.

tom K8TB

p.s., runs very well with K1's, K2's and K3's  :) 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Elecraft Utility and second receiver

2009-05-11 Thread Dick Dievendorff
This is correct. The buttons will be disabled if the CONFIG:KRX3 option is
disabled.

See the K3 Utility Help page on the Crystal Filter Configuration dialog,
under the heading Main and Sub Receiver.

73 de Dick, K6KR


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Iain MacDonnell -
N6ML
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:56 AM
To: Erik N Basilier
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Elecraft Utility and second receiver



Erik N Basilier wrote:
 I installed the second receiver recently, and am totally addicted to the
diversity reception. Using my R5 vertical as the second antenna, with my
horizontal beam for the main. The R5 is of course useless as a transmit
antenna on 40, but it picks up enough signal for receive (no tuner on it).
Haven't put any extra roofing filters in the second receiver, and with the
lower received signal strength on the vertical I doubt that I will need to. 
 
 Now to my question: The Utility happily loaded the DSP firmware into the
second receiver, but I didn't see how to set up the roofing filter
configuration from the Utility, so I did it using the radio's menus. Surely
I am missing something in the Utility? (Running the latest Utility and the
latest firmware.)

There should be a radio buttons in the bottom-left corner of the
Cyrstal Filter COnfiguration dialog that allow you to select Main
or Sub Receiver... ?

 ~Iain / N6ML

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power supply

2009-05-11 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Sorry but this is totally wrong. In this case your FT-1000D
was either broken or not aligned properly.
If you still have it align it per the service manual and
you will see something totally different.

73 Jim SM2EKM
--
Erik N Basilier wrote:
 Merv,
 
 My experience with the FT-1000D was that the S-meter didn't start to move 
 until the actual signal strength reached S-5 or so. But yes, I believe you 
 when you say that the switching power supply creates a lot of noise, and the 
 one in the FT-1000D doesn't.
 
 73,
 Erik K7TV
 


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Re: [Elecraft] K2: HRD Power Control Anomaly

2009-05-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Randy,

If your K2 firmware is less than version 2.02e then the problem is with 
your K2 firmware.
If the firmware is 2.02e or greater, then HRD is the problem.  What 
version of HRD are you using?  If it is an older one, that may be your 
problem.

See the K2 Programmer's Reference.  The Extended form of the PC command 
must be used to change the power from the low range to the high range.

I don't know whether Simon has implemented the Extended version of the 
PC command in his software.  You may want to ask that question on the 
HRD forum.

I cannot check it out here, I have only the QRP K2 and no KAT100.

73,
Don W3FPR

Randy Moore wrote:
 I'm operating my K2/100 (KPA100+KAT100 in EC2) from Ham Radio Deluxe, 
 which works just great.  But just now I was playing around with the HRD 
 power control slider and discovered some anomalies. 

 If I set the power on the K2 to say 50w, then move the HRD power slider 
 down to  11 w, the LCD power readout on the K2 follows the HRD slider 
 down appropriately, but the KAT100 PWR RANGE LED stays in HIGH.  If I 
 then transmit, the power is actually what I set it to (11w).  So does 
 that mean that I'm driving the KPA100 at QRP levels instead of using the 
 K2 PA and bypassing the KPA100???  Moving the slider to other power 
 levels (without moving the K2 power control) results in the same thing - 
 power out follows the HRD slider, but the PWR RANGE LED stays at HIGH no 
 matter if the power is set to 11w.

 Now if I start with the K2 power control at 11w, first of all, HRD 
 displays 10x the actual power setting (i.e., 100 for 10w).  That's easy 
 to get used to.  But if I crank the HRD slider up beyond 10w (e.g., HRD 
 slider to 150 or 15w), the actual power output, and the K2 LCD power 
 display, go to 15w, but the KAT100 PWR RANGE LED stays in LOW.  Again 
 does that mean that I'm driving the K2 PA to 15w and not going through 
 the KPA100???

 Is this a HRD issue or a K2 CAT command issue???

 Kinda strange!

 73,
 Randy, KS4L
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power supply

2009-05-11 Thread Erik N Basilier
Jim,

I take it you were commenting on the S-meter. I don't have the rig anymore; 
I sold it to buy the K3. It was generally working very well, and it behaved 
this way from day one (I bought it new around 1992) and I never saw a need 
to align it.  The buyer has not complained. My statement was based on 
starting at S-9 and applying attenuation 6 dB at a time. My memory may be 
slightly off, but generally I saw the same behavior in the 1000D as in my 
old IC-735. The meters would be quite good above S-7. Starting at S-7 and 
attenuating another 6 dB they would indicate about S-5, and after another 6 
dB the needle would be at 0. I remember memorizing this and using it to give 
reports. Because it seemed so consistent between the two rigs, I formed the 
opinion that it was the consensus of the manufacturers, and again saw no 
reason to question the 1000D's alignment. Of course, with preamplification 
on, the meter would start moving at a lower level, maybe S3. Over the years 
I have seen comments in articles that have seemed to avoid generalizations 
and instead said things like S-meter calibrations vary a lot from receiver 
to receiver. I wouldn't be surprised if Yaesu had changed the AGC 
parameters sometime during the long production run.

73,
Erik K7TV

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power supply


 Sorry but this is totally wrong. In this case your FT-1000D
 was either broken or not aligned properly.
 If you still have it align it per the service manual and
 you will see something totally different.

 73 Jim SM2EKM
 --
 Erik N Basilier wrote:
 Merv,

 My experience with the FT-1000D was that the S-meter didn't start to move
 until the actual signal strength reached S-5 or so. But yes, I believe 
 you
 when you say that the switching power supply creates a lot of noise, and 
 the
 one in the FT-1000D doesn't.

 73,
 Erik K7TV



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