Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3 with N1MM

2009-09-04 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Jeff Kinzli N6GQj...@n6gq.com wrote:
 Hi there, I'm wondering if I could find someone that's currently using
 the KDVR3 with N1MM - I have a few questions I'd like to bounce off
 you, and it can be off-list, or on-list. Specifically, how seamless is
 the integration with N1MM and what are the known issues (if any)?

I've done it. It's not really integrated in any way (at least that I
know of), but you can trigger playback of DVR messages with CAT
commands in your SSB messages. I was surprised recently when I
discovered that hitting Escape actually caused DVR playback to stop
immediately ... perhaps N1MM sends an RX command to the K3 on
Escape-press??

The main downside, I suppose, is that N1MM has no knowledge of the
length of the messages (or even that there are messages being played),
so repeating (or dueling) CQs would be a bit tricky.

For basic message playback, without a lot of audio interfacing hassle
- especially for CQing, it works quite well.

~Iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3 with N1MM

2009-09-04 Thread Stewart
I have looked into using the K3 DVK with N1MM. It works, but I find
that for me using wav files with N1MM is better.
The main reason is that I can manipulate the wav files in a program such as
Audacity to get rid of unwanted pauses etc.

73
Stewart G3RXQ

On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 23:01:26 -0700, Iain MacDonnell - N6ML wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Jeff Kinzli N6GQj...@n6gq.com wrote:
 Hi there, I'm wondering if I could find someone that's currently using
 the KDVR3 with N1MM - I have a few questions I'd like to bounce off
 you, and it can be off-list, or on-list. Specifically, how seamless is
 the integration with N1MM and what are the known issues (if any)?

 I've done it. It's not really integrated in any way (at least that I
 know of), but you can trigger playback of DVR messages with CAT
 commands in your SSB messages. I was surprised recently when I
 discovered that hitting Escape actually caused DVR playback to stop
 immediately ... perhaps N1MM sends an RX command to the K3 on
 Escape-press??

 The main downside, I suppose, is that N1MM has no knowledge of the
 length of the messages (or even that there are messages being played),
 so repeating (or dueling) CQs would be a bit tricky.

 For basic message playback, without a lot of audio interfacing hassle
 - especially for CQing, it works quite well.

~Iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] Tips on setting transmit drive for PSK31

2009-09-04 Thread Gordan Hribar

Hello,
 
I am also just testing PSK on K3 with Microham keyer using Data A mode and get 
different results.. Fist think is if you proper adjust level from sound card 
that ALC meter show 4 bars and 5 flickering on 1500Hz means that every time 
when you change listen channel needs to re-adjust Mic gain to get good ALC 
level.. So, if you on highest freq. you will overdrive K3 but if you goes 
little down maybe you can not drive correctly K3 for require power... 
Please your opinion!
 
73,
e72x - Gordan

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Bob Cunnings bob.cunni...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Bob Cunnings bob.cunni...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Tips on setting transmit drive for PSK31
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:20 AM


A while back this was addressed by Lyle in this post:

http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Transmit-IMD-tp466326p466329.html

Whether or not it remains current I can't say.

Bob NW8L


 I'm curious about your statement that the K3 will attempt to develop more 
 power to maintain the power output level you have chosen -

 Since PSK is an audio driven mode with a varying amplitude component,  
 linearity is very important.  What you are suggesting is that the K3 is 
 highly non-linear and has infinite gain, i.e. it puts out X watts regardless 
 of drive.

 I know that you don't mean that, so could you clarify?

 Wes  N7WS
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Re: [Elecraft] Tips on setting transmit drive for PSK31

2009-09-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 I am also just testing PSK on K3 with Microham keyer using 
 Data A mode and get different results.. Fist think is if you 
 proper adjust level from sound card that ALC meter show 4 
 bars and 5 flickering on 1500Hz means that every time when 
 you change listen channel needs to re-adjust Mic gain to get 
 good ALC level.. 

Do you have the TX EQ set to anything except flat?  

There should be no change in output level with audio frequency 
with any of the microHAM interfaces. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gordan Hribar
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:36 AM
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Tips on setting transmit drive for PSK31
 
 
 
 Hello,
  
 I am also just testing PSK on K3 with Microham keyer using 
 Data A mode and get different results.. Fist think is if you 
 proper adjust level from sound card that ALC meter show 4 
 bars and 5 flickering on 1500Hz means that every time when 
 you change listen channel needs to re-adjust Mic gain to get 
 good ALC level.. So, if you on highest freq. you will 
 overdrive K3 but if you goes little down maybe you can not 
 drive correctly K3 for require power... 
 Please your opinion!
  
 73,
 e72x - Gordan
 
 --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Bob Cunnings bob.cunni...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 From: Bob Cunnings bob.cunni...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Tips on setting transmit drive for PSK31
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:20 AM
 
 
 A while back this was addressed by Lyle in this post:
 
 http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Transmit-IMD-tp466326p466329.html
 
 Whether or not it remains current I can't say.
 
 Bob NW8L
 
 
  I'm curious about your statement that the K3 will attempt 
 to develop 
  more power to maintain the power output level you have chosen -
 
  Since PSK is an audio driven mode with a varying amplitude 
 component,  
  linearity is very important.  What you are suggesting is 
 that the K3 
  is highly non-linear and has infinite gain, i.e. it puts 
 out X watts 
  regardless of drive.
 
  I know that you don't mean that, so could you clarify?
 
  Wes  N7WS
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[Elecraft] Region 1 SSB Field Day this weekend

2009-09-04 Thread dj7mgq
Hi,

please remember that this weekend is the Region 1 SSB Field Day from  
Saturday 13.00 UTC to Sunday 12.59 UTC.

We are looking forward to working you!

vy 73 de toby


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[Elecraft] power out variation using FSK-D

2009-09-04 Thread Mark n2qt
I notice that there is a slight power output variation between the two FSK
tones (as seen on an external meter, there isn't enough resolution on the
K3's meter to see it).  Is this a result of filter ripple or is something 
else
at work here?  (since not AFSK not EQ or sound card settings).

Mark n2qt


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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Loading!

2009-09-04 Thread Wes Stewart
Jim,

I'm using a Quatech http://www.quatech.com/catalog/rs232_usb.php USB-Serial 
adapter to load firmware on my K3 and to connect to my logging program 
otherwise.

I have no issues with it.  I spent several hours yesterday loading and 
reloading firmware trying to sort out the RF gain control issues on my radio 
and had only one hiccup where I had to start over. 

I do have an issue with the Elecraft Utility though.  After running and closing 
it, the serial port is not released.  Windows Task Manager doesn't show the 
utility as a running program but I've had to resort to either rebooting or 
pulling the USB cable from the computer and reinserting it before my logging 
program can control the radio.

If I do the latter then when shutting down Windows (XP-Pro SR3), I get a 
message that there is a program (the utility) that is not responding, do I want 
to close it.  Last night even that didn't work and I had to resort to the power 
switch to close shut down.

Wes  N7WS

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, James Harris capo...@bellsouth.net Hi, Dick.
 
Maybe I need to describe my setup a bit more thoroughly.
 
I do not have a Serial Port of any kind on my DELL laptop computer: hence 
trying an Adapter.  
 
So yes, I'm using a KEYSPAN USB-to-Serial Adapter with a straight through 
9-pin male to 9-pin female cable to my K3.  
 
But what I didn't tell you is that I have a powered USB Hub installed in a USB 
port on the back of my computer, then the USB Cable that came with the KEYSPAN 
Adapter connected to the KEYSPAN USB-Serial Adapter, then my straight through 
Cable connected between the Adapter and the rear of my K3 for loading.
 
I am using Com Port 4.
 
Now that I've given my best description of my setup, it's fairly clear I have 
many connection points where the possible gremlim lies unless you can define 
some other area problem!
 
If all of the above isn't REALLY so terribly bad, should I be looking for the 
special Cable you were talking about earlier?  Do you think that would help?
 
I did go to the KEYSPAN link you referenced and downloaded the driver 
again.  It was the same version but maybe it repaied my version.
 
Thanks  Best 73.
 
Jim.
WA4NTM




  
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Loading!

2009-09-04 Thread Lyle Johnson

 I do have an issue with the Elecraft Utility though.  After running and 
 closing it, the serial port is not released. 
   

Interesting.

In my operating position, I use a RigExpert Plus between the K3 and the 
computer.  This device includes a USB - RS232 converter.  After 
running Utility, I have no problem running HRD over the same port.

In my development position, I use a standard serial port (no USB 
adapter). Similarly, I have never had a problem with the serial port 
being blocked after closing Utility.  Previously, I have used a Prolific 
chipset-based USB - RS232 dongle (similar to the KUSB sold by 
Elecraft), and I've never had a problem with another application using 
that serial port after Utility ha sused it and I closed Utility.

Running XP Pro SP3 on the computers involved, and SP2 prior to that with 
the same results.

YMMV (and apparently does!),

Lyle KK7P



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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Loading!

2009-09-04 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I'll look into this. My intent us to Close the serial port in all exit  
paths. But Close calls driver-specific routines. Is this a general  
problem with all USB to Serial adapter users? Are your device drivers  
up to date? How do you generally close the K3 utility? I'll put a  
debug breakpoint on Serial port close and verify that it is invoked in  
the path you use.

Dick, K6KR


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 4, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Jim,

 I'm using a Quatech http://www.quatech.com/catalog/rs232_usb.php USB- 
 Serial adapter to load firmware on my K3 and to connect to my  
 logging program otherwise.

 I have no issues with it.  I spent several hours yesterday loading  
 and reloading firmware trying to sort out the RF gain control issues  
 on my radio and had only one hiccup where I had to start over.

 I do have an issue with the Elecraft Utility though.  After running  
 and closing it, the serial port is not released.  Windows Task  
 Manager doesn't show the utility as a running program but I've had  
 to resort to either rebooting or pulling the USB cable from the  
 computer and reinserting it before my logging program can control  
 the radio.

 If I do the latter then when shutting down Windows (XP-Pro SR3), I  
 get a message that there is a program (the utility) that is not  
 responding, do I want to close it.  Last night even that didn't work  
 and I had to resort to the power switch to close shut down.

 Wes  N7WS

 --- On Wed, 9/2/09, James Harris capo...@bellsouth.net Hi, Dick.

 Maybe I need to describe my setup a bit more thoroughly.

 I do not have a Serial Port of any kind on my DELL laptop computer:  
 hence trying an Adapter.

 So yes, I'm using a KEYSPAN USB-to-Serial Adapter with a straight  
 through 9-pin male to 9-pin female cable to my K3.

 But what I didn't tell you is that I have a powered USB Hub  
 installed in a USB port on the back of my computer, then the USB  
 Cable that came with the KEYSPAN Adapter connected to the KEYSPAN  
 USB-Serial Adapter, then my straight through Cable connected  
 between the Adapter and the rear of my K3 for loading.

 I am using Com Port 4.

 Now that I've given my best description of my setup, it's fairly  
 clear I have many connection points where the possible gremlim  
 lies unless you can define some other area problem!

 If all of the above isn't REALLY so terribly bad, should I be  
 looking for the special Cable you were talking about earlier?  Do  
 you think that would help?

 I did go to the KEYSPAN link you referenced and downloaded the  
 driver again.  It was the same version but maybe it repaied my  
 version.

 Thanks  Best 73.

 Jim.
 WA4NTM





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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Loading!

2009-09-04 Thread Doug Person
Dick,
This is a common problem with applications accessing serial ports. It is 
very driver dependent.
Doug -- K0DXV
(Senior Programmer -IBM)

Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 I'll look into this. My intent us to Close the serial port in all exit  
 paths. But Close calls driver-specific routines. Is this a general  
 problem with all USB to Serial adapter users? Are your device drivers  
 up to date? How do you generally close the K3 utility? I'll put a  
 debug breakpoint on Serial port close and verify that it is invoked in  
 the path you use.

 Dick, K6KR


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 4, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote:

   
 Jim,

 I'm using a Quatech http://www.quatech.com/catalog/rs232_usb.php USB- 
 Serial adapter to load firmware on my K3 and to connect to my  
 logging program otherwise.

 I have no issues with it.  I spent several hours yesterday loading  
 and reloading firmware trying to sort out the RF gain control issues  
 on my radio and had only one hiccup where I had to start over.

 I do have an issue with the Elecraft Utility though.  After running  
 and closing it, the serial port is not released.  Windows Task  
 Manager doesn't show the utility as a running program but I've had  
 to resort to either rebooting or pulling the USB cable from the  
 computer and reinserting it before my logging program can control  
 the radio.

 If I do the latter then when shutting down Windows (XP-Pro SR3), I  
 get a message that there is a program (the utility) that is not  
 responding, do I want to close it.  Last night even that didn't work  
 and I had to resort to the power switch to close shut down.

 Wes  N7WS

 --- On Wed, 9/2/09, James Harris capo...@bellsouth.net Hi, Dick.

 Maybe I need to describe my setup a bit more thoroughly.

 I do not have a Serial Port of any kind on my DELL laptop computer:  
 hence trying an Adapter.

 So yes, I'm using a KEYSPAN USB-to-Serial Adapter with a straight  
 through 9-pin male to 9-pin female cable to my K3.

 But what I didn't tell you is that I have a powered USB Hub  
 installed in a USB port on the back of my computer, then the USB  
 Cable that came with the KEYSPAN Adapter connected to the KEYSPAN  
 USB-Serial Adapter, then my straight through Cable connected  
 between the Adapter and the rear of my K3 for loading.

 I am using Com Port 4.

 Now that I've given my best description of my setup, it's fairly  
 clear I have many connection points where the possible gremlim  
 lies unless you can define some other area problem!

 If all of the above isn't REALLY so terribly bad, should I be  
 looking for the special Cable you were talking about earlier?  Do  
 you think that would help?

 I did go to the KEYSPAN link you referenced and downloaded the  
 driver again.  It was the same version but maybe it repaied my  
 version.

 Thanks  Best 73.

 Jim.
 WA4NTM





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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Loading!

2009-09-04 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
It's always been possible to have a problem of this sort, even using
the Elecraft supplied usb/serial adapter, and with the latest drivers,
using any of my various PC's as a host.

If I try to close the utility AFTER I have turned off the K3 power, I
can count on some kind of funky business about half the time, though
not always.

When I load firmware, I do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE on the PC while
it's loading, NO mouse movement, NO nothing, no other programs
running, zero, zilch, emphatically nothing.

When the load is complete, I turn off the utility FIRST. Then I do the
recommended K3 power off before using the rig with new load.

Never had a problem with this procedure.YMMV.

73, Guy

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Dick Dievendorffdie...@comcast.net wrote:
 I'll look into this. My intent us to Close the serial port in all exit
 paths. But Close calls driver-specific routines. Is this a general
 problem with all USB to Serial adapter users? Are your device drivers
 up to date? How do you generally close the K3 utility? I'll put a
 debug breakpoint on Serial port close and verify that it is invoked in
 the path you use.

 Dick, K6KR


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 4, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Jim,

 I'm using a Quatech http://www.quatech.com/catalog/rs232_usb.php USB-
 Serial adapter to load firmware on my K3 and to connect to my
 logging program otherwise.

 I have no issues with it.  I spent several hours yesterday loading
 and reloading firmware trying to sort out the RF gain control issues
 on my radio and had only one hiccup where I had to start over.

 I do have an issue with the Elecraft Utility though.  After running
 and closing it, the serial port is not released.  Windows Task
 Manager doesn't show the utility as a running program but I've had
 to resort to either rebooting or pulling the USB cable from the
 computer and reinserting it before my logging program can control
 the radio.

 If I do the latter then when shutting down Windows (XP-Pro SR3), I
 get a message that there is a program (the utility) that is not
 responding, do I want to close it.  Last night even that didn't work
 and I had to resort to the power switch to close shut down.

 Wes  N7WS

 --- On Wed, 9/2/09, James Harris capo...@bellsouth.net Hi, Dick.

 Maybe I need to describe my setup a bit more thoroughly.

 I do not have a Serial Port of any kind on my DELL laptop computer:
 hence trying an Adapter.

 So yes, I'm using a KEYSPAN USB-to-Serial Adapter with a straight
 through 9-pin male to 9-pin female cable to my K3.

 But what I didn't tell you is that I have a powered USB Hub
 installed in a USB port on the back of my computer, then the USB
 Cable that came with the KEYSPAN Adapter connected to the KEYSPAN
 USB-Serial Adapter, then my straight through Cable connected
 between the Adapter and the rear of my K3 for loading.

 I am using Com Port 4.

 Now that I've given my best description of my setup, it's fairly
 clear I have many connection points where the possible gremlim
 lies unless you can define some other area problem!

 If all of the above isn't REALLY so terribly bad, should I be
 looking for the special Cable you were talking about earlier?  Do
 you think that would help?

 I did go to the KEYSPAN link you referenced and downloaded the
 driver again.  It was the same version but maybe it repaied my
 version.

 Thanks  Best 73.

 Jim.
 WA4NTM





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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Loading!

2009-09-04 Thread sfbonk





Not only the PC. When running higher power (not sure the limit), I get 
intermittent telnet drops on DSL when I'm on 80 and 160 (saw this reported by 
others on various reflectors). When I'm downloading SW, even though I'm in the 
shack, I don't key?any transmitters. Have a bunch of ferrites on the lines, but 
just put in an order for fiber which I hope solves that problem.



73 de W3OU, Steve




-Original Message-
From: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net
To: Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net
Cc: ELECRAFT Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Fri, Sep 4, 2009 11:29 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Loading!




It's always been possible to have a problem of this sort, even using
the Elecraft supplied usb/serial adapter, and with the latest drivers,
using any of my various PC's as a host.

If I try to close the utility AFTER I have turned off the K3 power, I
can count on some kind of funky business about half the time, though
not always.

When I load firmware, I do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE on the PC while
it's loading, NO mouse movement, NO nothing, no other programs
running, zero, zilch, emphatically nothing.

When the load is complete, I turn off the utility FIRST. Then I do the
recommended K3 power off before using the rig with new load.

Never had a problem with this procedure.YMMV.

73, Guy

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Dick Dievendorffdie...@comcast.net wrote:
 I'll look into this. My intent us to Close the serial port in all exit
 paths. But Close calls driver-specific routines. Is this a general
 problem with all USB to Serial adapter users? Are your device drivers
 up to date? How do you generally close the K3 utility? I'll put a
 debug breakpoint on Serial port close and verify that it is invoked in
 the path you use.

 Dick, K6KR


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 4, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Jim,

 I'm using a Quatech http://www.quatech.com/catalog/rs232_usb.php USB-
 Serial adapter to load firmware on my K3 and to connect to my
 logging program otherwise.

 I have no issues with it. ?I spent several hours yesterday loading
 and reloading firmware trying to sort out the RF gain control issues
 on my radio and had only one hiccup where I had to start over.

 I do have an issue with the Elecraft Utility though. ?After running
 and closing it, the serial port is not released. ?Windows Task
 Manager doesn't show the utility as a running program but I've had
 to resort to either rebooting or pulling the USB cable from the
 computer and reinserting it before my logging program can control
 the radio.

 If I do the latter then whe
n shutting down Windows (XP-Pro SR3), I
 get a message that there is a program (the utility) that is not
 responding, do I want to close it. ?Last night even that didn't work
 and I had to resort to the power switch to close shut down.

 Wes ?N7WS

 --- On Wed, 9/2/09, James Harris capo...@bellsouth.net Hi, Dick.

 Maybe I need to describe my setup a bit more thoroughly.

 I do not have a Serial Port of any kind on my DELL laptop computer:
 hence trying an Adapter.

 So yes, I'm using a KEYSPAN USB-to-Serial Adapter with a straight
 through 9-pin male to 9-pin female cable to my K3.

 But what I didn't tell you is that I have a powered USB Hub
 installed in a USB port on the back of my computer, then the USB
 Cable that came with the KEYSPAN Adapter connected to the KEYSPAN
 USB-Serial Adapter, then my straight through Cable connected
 between the Adapter and the rear of my K3 for loading.

 I am using Com Port 4.

 Now that I've given my best description of my setup, it's fairly
 clear I have many connection points where the possible gremlim
 lies unless you can define some other area problem!

 If all of the above isn't REALLY so terribly bad, should I be
 looking for the special Cable you were talking about earlier? ?Do
 you think that would help?

 I did go to the KEYSPAN link you referenced and downloaded the
 driver again. ?It was the same version but maybe it repaied my
 version.

 Thanks  Best 73.

 Jim.
 WA4NTM





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[Elecraft] Tennessee QSO Party this Sunday

2009-09-04 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn

Hello,

I'd like to plug the Tennessee QSO Party which will be running from 1800z
Sunday, September 6 until 0300z Monday, September 7, 2009. 

We anticipate all 95 counties to be active and plenty of mobile activity. At
least one of the mobiles will try RTTY. Several others will also be on RTTY
based on activity.

Another new twist will be the bonus station, K4TCG. This year there will be
two Mobiles signing K4TCG, one on SSB (KK4TA) and one CW/RTTY (W9WI). 

There are plenty of awards including nice state shaped plaques, NCJ
subscriptions and a Elecraft BL1 kit. This year we have also added a Youth
Plaque.

This year's contest is dedicated to the memory of Don, N4TN (SK).

Details can be found here: http://www.tnqp.org/

Hope to work some of you then!

73,
Julius


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http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html

Tennessee QSO Party
http://www.tnqp.org/

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Elecraft K3/100 #366
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Re: [Elecraft] Price increases on K3, K2 etc coming - Get those orders in! :-)

2009-09-04 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi,

I've had several requests to update status on our price changes. The 
date will be in a week and a half - 9/15 or 9/16.

(Lisa was out this week. We need to meet and confirm the change amounts, 
modify the web pages, order forms, accounting system etc.)

Please don't email or call the factory requesting more details right now.  
Watch the web order form for the final changes in Sept. I'll also post here 
when it is updated.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ

==



Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 Heads up! - We want to give an advance notice to our loyal Elecraft 
 email list members.

 We will be increasing prices a small amount on the K3 and our other 
 products in September. If you have been on the fence deciding when 
 to order, this is your chance. :-) Orders received before the price 
 increase will be honored at the current web price as of the order date.

 We and most other manufacturers have seen industry wide upward pricing 
 pressure on a number of key components, fabricated parts, delivery costs 
 etc. over the past 6 months, which is impacting many of our products. In 
 general we have worked hard to hold off passing through these increases 
 as long as possible. We're keeping it as small as we can, but finally 
 have to make some adjustments.




   
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[Elecraft] External speaker operation-K3

2009-09-04 Thread Howard K2HK

What I have I changed? I can only hear my external speakers when sub is 
activated. Config settings: speakers=2; phone +speakers = yes. Plugged into 
rear spkr jack. With plug removed internal speakers work as expected. 

 

Howard..K2HK



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[Elecraft] K1 -: internal tuner or external T1 tuner?

2009-09-04 Thread Brian Pepperdine

Hi all.
With the K1, is it better or equal to have the internal tuner built and 
installed internally in the K1 or is there a performance factor (better?) to 
use the external T1 tuner?

Thought I would ask and get something ordered before the price changes.

tnx
Brien 
VE3VAW
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 -: internal tuner or external T1 tuner?

2009-09-04 Thread Rick Dettinger
Brian-
The internal tuner is good and the external tuner is better and can be  
used with other QRP rigs.  Also, if you want to change filter boards  
frequently, the internal tuner has to be removed to change the filter  
boards.  This doubles the work.

73,

Rick DettingerK7MW


On Sep 4, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Brian Pepperdine wrote:


 Hi all.
 With the K1, is it better or equal to have the internal tuner built  
 and installed internally in the K1 or is there a performance factor  
 (better?) to use the external T1 tuner?

 Thought I would ask and get something ordered before the price  
 changes.

 tnx
 Brien
 VE3VAW
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[Elecraft] F.S. KX1

2009-09-04 Thread Joe W2KJ
Howdy Gang:

The K1 I had advertised for sale yesterday has been sold but the KX1 is 
still available.

This basic KX1 has just recently been built so it is in like-new condition 
and covers 20M and 40M.

Comes with the manual and will ship and insure to your QTH for $315 CONUS.

73, Joe W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am 

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 -: internal tuner or external T1 tuner?

2009-09-04 Thread AD6XY

I was wondering this myself. The T1 would go well with the K1. The whole
package is bigger - but not by a lot!

The T1 appears to have 3 more Ls and 3 more Cs so can probably match a wider
range of bits of wire. I think I would go for that unless there was a very
good reason not to.

With a more powerful radio the inclusion of an auto ATU is a real plus. With
radios like the K1 it is probably much better to tune the antenna to get the
most from the limited power, and then you don't need an ATU.

I am still tempted to order one. It would work with my FT817s,  but I
already have the KXV144 on order and restraint is needed. Will the price
increases be that severe? Will the $/£ ratio be better next month?



Rick Dettinger-3 wrote:
 
 Brian-
 The internal tuner is good and the external tuner is better and can be  
 used with other QRP rigs.  Also, if you want to change filter boards  
 frequently, the internal tuner has to be removed to change the filter  
 boards.  This doubles the work.
 
 73,
 
 Rick DettingerK7MW
 
 
 On Sep 4, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Brian Pepperdine wrote:
 

 Hi all.
 With the K1, is it better or equal to have the internal tuner built  
 and installed internally in the K1 or is there a performance factor  
 (better?) to use the external T1 tuner?

 Thought I would ask and get something ordered before the price  
 changes.

 tnx
 Brien
 VE3VAW
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[Elecraft] K3 LIN OUT Behavior

2009-09-04 Thread wb6rse1
Stereo cable connected to LIN OUT which is set to NOR. SUB RX off.  
Audio is only in the Main/Left channel. Turn SUB on and then audio is  
present on the right channel.

Set LIN OUT to =PHONES and audio is present at LIN OUT on both  
channels and the right channel switches when the SUB RX is toggled. In  
this case, the FP AF control must be used to adjust gain.

Question: I have not found the answer in the manual - yet. Is there a  
way to have LIN OUT set to NORM and have audio in both channels even  
if the SUB RX is off but have the SUB RX audio in the right channel as  
with the =PHONES setting?

TU - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 LIN OUT Behavior

2009-09-04 Thread Lyle Johnson

 Stereo cable connected to LIN OUT which is set to NOR. SUB RX off.  
 Audio is only in the Main/Left channel. Turn SUB on and then audio is  
 present on the right channel.
   
Correct.
 Set LIN OUT to =PHONES and audio is present at LIN OUT on both  
 channels and the right channel switches when the SUB RX is toggled. In  
 this case, the FP AF control must be used to adjust gain.
   
Yes, it echoes what you would hear using the headphone jack.
 Question: I have not found the answer in the manual - yet. Is there a  
 way to have LIN OUT set to NORM and have audio in both channels even  
 if the SUB RX is off but have the SUB RX audio in the right channel as  
 with the =PHONES setting?
   
Not with the present UI.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 -: internal tuner or external T1 tuner?

2009-09-04 Thread Sandy
I have an internal K1 tuner and a T1 tuner.  The T1 has a much larger 
impedance range and will match stranger loads than the KAT1.

The big advantage of the KAT1 is that it is an internal pcb that is always 
there and it also will remember settings for each band on the same antenna 
so you can switch between 40/30/20 and 15 without having to retune again.

Generally, I use the T1 more often now than the built-in KAT-1.  If I was 
repeating the rig again, I'd opt for a T1 rather than the builti-in KAT-1.

73,

Sandy W5TVW
K1 #1178

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From: Brian Pepperdine brianpepperd...@sympatico.ca
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K1 -: internal tuner or external T1 tuner?



 Hi all.
 With the K1, is it better or equal to have the internal tuner built and 
 installed internally in the K1 or is there a performance factor (better?) 
 to use the external T1 tuner?

 Thought I would ask and get something ordered before the price changes.

 tnx
 Brien
 VE3VAW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 LIN OUT Behavior

2009-09-04 Thread Steve Lawrence

On Sep 4, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote:

Not with the present UI.
__

Thanks Lyle - I just found a work around:

LIN OUT = NOR, SUB RX ON  -AND- LOCKED to the MAIN = same audio and  
fixed level in both channels.

Have to remember to unlock VFOs when operating digi modes split.

TU - Steve WB6RSE
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[Elecraft] LP Pan Infrasonic Quartet for Sale

2009-09-04 Thread Robert Dorchuck
I have an LP Pan (for the K3) and a Infrasonic Quartet 192 kHz
card for sale. Both are in as new condition. The LP Pan is serial
549 (purchased assembled). Price is $200.00 plus shipping (US only).
Please contact me at off list.
Thanks. Bob W6VY

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[Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY

2009-09-04 Thread Jim Harris

Hi Folks,

I have a K3 on it's way form Aptos that will arrive Tuesday, Sept 8th.would 
have here today except for a minor hiccup.  But, not complainingjust a 
lesson in patience. I've been worrying over the assembly and operating manual 
the last few days. I like to contest using FSK RTTY.  Looks like the only way 
to get the FSK from the computer to the radio is through the Accessory port on 
the radio.  Looks like there are several other functions that go through the 
connector.  The manual seems a little shy on how to gather all the data from 
apparently several locations and get it into the connector.  Is there a cable 
available to do that or is one left to their own to fabricate such a spiderweb 
thing.  I applaud the built in interface isolation transformers only to find 
myself faced with having to engineer and build a break out cable that connects 
among several pieces of hardware.  Do I have this thing all wrong or do I need 
to start contemplating building a breakout cable?  

Thanks for any help.

Have a good day and 73.

Jim, W0EM


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY

2009-09-04 Thread Dick Dievendorff
There are a couple of choices. I chose to use a 15-pin Y connector and  
plug a microHAM cable on one side of the Y and a Top Ten Devices Band  
Decoder on the other. Another choice is a little breakout board with  
connectors for leads. And of course you can make up your own cable.  
All of these have been discussed on this forum.

73 de Dick, K6KR

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Jim Harris w...@q.com wrote:


 Hi Folks,

 I have a K3 on it's way form Aptos that will arrive Tuesday, Sept  
 8th.would have here today except for a minor hiccup.  But, not  
 complainingjust a lesson in patience. I've been worrying over  
 the assembly and operating manual the last few days. I like to  
 contest using FSK RTTY.  Looks like the only way to get the FSK from  
 the computer to the radio is through the Accessory port on the  
 radio.  Looks like there are several other functions that go through  
 the connector.  The manual seems a little shy on how to gather all  
 the data from apparently several locations and get it into the  
 connector.  Is there a cable available to do that or is one left to  
 their own to fabricate such a spiderweb thing.  I applaud the built  
 in interface isolation transformers only to find myself faced with  
 having to engineer and build a break out cable that connects among  
 several pieces of hardware.  Do I have this thing all wrong or do I  
 need to start contemplating building a breakout cable?

 Thanks for any help.

 Have a good day and 73.

 Jim, W0EM


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[Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List

2009-09-04 Thread Steve Ellington
K3 still at top. 7600 rated #15 for dynamic range. Even an old TS-830 tops 
it!
http://www.sherweng.com/table.html


Steve
N4LQ
n...@carolina.rr.com 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List

2009-09-04 Thread Alan Bloom
Guess which radio has the best 100 kHz blocking dynamic range (146 dB),
actually 6 dB better than the K3?

...

Answer:  The Drake TR-7, which was introduced over 30 years ago!

Of course, with its wide roofing filter the close-in dynamic range is
much worse and it doesn't have microprocessor control and all the bells
and whistles of a modern rig.  But for raw performance, it's still
pretty hard to beat.

Al N1AL



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 K3 still at top. 7600 rated #15 for dynamic range. Even an old TS-830 tops 
 it!
 http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
 
 
 Steve
 N4LQ
 n...@carolina.rr.com 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY

2009-09-04 Thread Peter
Jim Harris schreef:
 Hi Folks,

 I have a K3 on it's way form Aptos that will arrive Tuesday, Sept 
 8th.would have here today except for a minor hiccup.  But, not 
 complainingjust a lesson in patience. I've been worrying over the 
 assembly and operating manual the last few days. I like to contest using FSK 
 RTTY.  Looks like the only way to get the FSK from the computer to the radio 
 is through the Accessory port on the radio.  Looks like there are several 
 other functions that go through the connector.  The manual seems a little shy 
 on how to gather all the data from apparently several locations and get it 
 into the connector.  Is there a cable available to do that or is one left to 
 their own to fabricate such a spiderweb thing.  I applaud the built in 
 interface isolation transformers only to find myself faced with having to 
 engineer and build a break out cable that connects among several pieces of 
 hardware.  Do I have this thing all wrong or do I need to start contemplating 
 building a breakout cable?  

 Thanks for any help.

 Have a good day and 73.

 Jim, W0EM


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Hi

An example of a rtty cable can be found at 
http://www.pi4cc.nl/personal/pc2a/k3/

Peter

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Re: [Elecraft] Tips on setting transmit drive for PSK31

2009-09-04 Thread Nigel
Don,
Can this approach be used with the K2 in digital modes and if so what are
the suggested settings for the 'bars' when the ALC is turned on?

73,  Nigel ZL2DF


Snip
The K2 has operated this way all its life, but the K3 has a more 
sophisticated detection mechanism, so control can be more precise than 
the K2.  It still takes a bit of output time for the power to settle 
down, and that fact has caused a bit of 'wonderment' among users - if 
the response is too fast, the power level will oscillate because of the 
required high gain in the control loop, so it take a couple dit times 
(or equal for SSB and Data modes) for the power to level out.  The 
control loop is reset with a band change, and a few other actions that I 
cannot recall right now.

73,
Don W3FPR


   


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List

2009-09-04 Thread Radio Amateur N5GE
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:21:48 -0700, Alan Bloom n...@cds1.net wrote:

Guess which radio has the best 100 kHz blocking dynamic range (146 dB),
actually 6 dB better than the K3?

...

Answer:  The Drake TR-7, which was introduced over 30 years ago!

Of course, with its wide roofing filter the close-in dynamic range is
much worse and it doesn't have microprocessor control and all the bells
and whistles of a modern rig.  But for raw performance, it's still
pretty hard to beat.

Al N1AL

[snip]

Have one and the R-7 RX  also.  Awesome old time rigs!

Tom, N5GE

n...@n5ge.com
K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6,
XV144, XV432, KRC2,
W1 and other small kits.
http://www.n5ge.com
http://www.swotrc.net

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