[Elecraft] Test only

2010-09-30 Thread Ken Kopp


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[Elecraft] K3: RE: Constant Level Line Out Monitor of Xmit Audio

2010-09-30 Thread Wright, Robert
Maybe I should have restated this as questions.  :-)

Has this feature (a separately adjustable transmit monitor level just
for the line out) been implemented and I missed it?  If not, has this
already been covered in recent discussions?   Is this a desirable
feature for anyone else?

73 - Bob, N7ZO

-Original Message-

Hi Joe,

I just tested this to be sure.  The change you mention requires the
transmit monitor to be on and having to hear yourself though the speaker
(or headphones).

I think what was asked for was something more like the new "DVR TRANSMIT
MONITOR SEPARATELY ADJUSTABLE" feature added in version 4.12, a
separately adjustable monitor level just for the line out.


-Original Message-
From: Joe Planisky [mailto:jp...@jeffnet.org] 

>From the hfwnotes.rtf:

MCU 2.72 / DSP 1.98, 12-9-2008

Misc. Changes:

* LINE OUT INCLUDES TX AUDIO: LINE OUT (nor menu setting) now includes
transmit sidetone and speech/data monitor audio.

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Sep 29, 2010, at 7:27 AM, Wright, Robert wrote:

> Did the K3 feature of monitoring transmit audio on line out without
> having to monitor through the speakers (or headphones) ever get
> implemented?
>
> There was a discussion on this back in 2009, but I haven't found
> anything recent in this list or in hfwnotes.rtf.
>
> My main application is for recording both sides of an SSB or CW
> conversation (via line out) without having to hear myself through the
> speakers.
>
> Bob, N7ZO
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Re: [Elecraft] RIT?

2010-09-30 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Tom,

This is correct. In receive mode, the RIT amount is added to the VFO A  
display. But when you go into transmit mode, the RIT offset is taken  
back out (try using XMIT to see this).

You can turn XIT on if you want the offset to apply to both RX and TX.

If you want to see the RIT offset at all times, tap DISP and rotate  
VFO B until you see the offset ("0.00", etc.).

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Sep 30, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Tommy Alderman wrote:

> I'm not sure how this is supposed to work and I can not find an  
> answer in
> the K3 manual. When I first got my K3, I thought when I was tuning  
> RIT that
> my receiver frequency changed but the VFO A display did not. Now  
> when I
> change RIT, VFO A frequency reading also changes and to me, this is
> indicating my tx frequency is being shifted also. I have CONFIG:VFO  
> OFS set
> to OFF and RIT CLR set to UNDO OFF. Can someone please tell me the  
> 'normal'
> operation of RIT?
> Thanks.
> Tom - W4BQF
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Re: [Elecraft] RIT?

2010-09-30 Thread Dave Perry N4QS
Tommy,

I tried my RIT and I agree that the VFO A frequency appears to move as you 
turn the RIT knob.  But if you transmit, the VFO A frequency reverts back to 
the original frequency.  I suppose it might be better to keep the VFO A 
frequency the same and only show the offset +/- setting for RIT in the VFO B 
display.  That might be less confusing.  I never noticed the issue until you 
pointed it out.

Dave, N4QS

- Original Message - 
From: "Tommy Alderman" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 6:36 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] RIT?


> I'm not sure how this is supposed to work and I can not find an answer in
> the K3 manual. When I first got my K3, I thought when I was tuning RIT 
> that
> my receiver frequency changed but the VFO A display did not. Now when I
> change RIT, VFO A frequency reading also changes and to me, this is
> indicating my tx frequency is being shifted also. I have CONFIG:VFO OFS 
> set
> to OFF and RIT CLR set to UNDO OFF. Can someone please tell me the 
> 'normal'
> operation of RIT?
> Thanks.
> Tom - W4BQF
>
>





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[Elecraft] RIT?

2010-09-30 Thread Tommy Alderman
I'm not sure how this is supposed to work and I can not find an answer in
the K3 manual. When I first got my K3, I thought when I was tuning RIT that
my receiver frequency changed but the VFO A display did not. Now when I
change RIT, VFO A frequency reading also changes and to me, this is
indicating my tx frequency is being shifted also. I have CONFIG:VFO OFS set
to OFF and RIT CLR set to UNDO OFF. Can someone please tell me the 'normal'
operation of RIT?
Thanks.
Tom - W4BQF

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Purchase and Accessories Questions

2010-09-30 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I am sorry you feel that way Don. 

Certainly, if you are getting flack for posting to this list you are right
to refrain. We don't need grief in our lives.

If that's the case it's a incalculable loss to this community; something for
all who understand the Ham spirit to grieve over.

For a decade this list has had a reputation as a place where anyone could
ask a question about an Elecraft rig or just Ham Radio in general and get
considerate, polite answers and opinions. 

We've had discussions about everything from what equipment to buy, how to
string up an antenna, or how to make a QSO. If it was a question someone
with an Elecraft product might have, it was more than welcome, it was
encouraged. 

And the replies were *on* the reflector so others could read and learn, not
so they could criticize and scoff at them. 

Differing opinions? Sure! Questioning a statement? Sure! 

Those were big part of the value of sharing responses with the list. And
under it all was the recognition that the new guy with a new license who
wonders how to string up a wire or hold a mic deserves the same
consideration and respect as the expert who sits at the top of the DXCC or
Contest awards lists. 

73,

Ron AC7AC 


-Original Message-

Sorry to the group.  I meant to send my advice to Mark off reflector and hit

the wrong button.  I knew one of the "guru's" would disagree with something 
I said, and I usually avoid posting here for that reason.  Again, my 
apologies, won't happen again.  If any of my stuff might happen to be 
useful, only the asker will get the advantage of it.  So it goes.
73,
Don 


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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

2010-09-30 Thread Kok Chen
In the earlier posting, I had forgotten to mention a couple of Java loggers 
that will run on Mac OS X.

---
jlog
. free
. general logger
. Java framework
http://jlog.org/
---
JL
.  by Mike, W1JQ
.  free
.  contest logger
.  Java framework
http://www.qsl.net/w1jq/
---

The disadvantage of Java loggers is that there is no way for them to 
interoperate with other Mac OS applications through AppleScript.

73
Chen, W7AY


On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Kok Chen wrote:
> On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:42 AM, J FRANCIS G3LWI wrote:
>> Anyone know of suitable logging program that I can use with the Apple/Mac 
>> computer
> 
> MacLoggerDX 
> . by Don, VE3VRW
> . not free
> . everything and the kitchen sink
> . Cocoa framework
> http://www.dogparksoftware.com/MacLoggerDX.html
> ---
> Aether
> . not free
> . pretty basic logger
> . Cocoa framework
> http://aetherlog.com/
> ---
> RUMlog 
> . by Tom, DL2RUM (author uses K3)
> . free
> . very full featured with good support by Tom in the forum pages at his web 
> site
> . REALbasic framework
> http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMLog.html
> ---
> RUMped 
> . also by Tom, DL2RUM (aka VP2MUM, 9X0TL, etc, author uses K3)
> . free
> . contest and DXpedition logger, uses cocoaModem as demodulator for RTTY and 
> PSK31; direct FSK to the K3's CAT port, CW using microKEYER, etc...
> . (check http://dl2rum.de/files/Aural_3.mov to see a Quicktime movie of 
> RUMped in action at 9X0TL)
> . REALbasic framework
> http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMPed.html
> ---
> YaeLogger 
> . by Piotr, SM7YEA
> . free
> . meant as a CW contest logger but also works as general logger
> http://sites.google.com/site/sm7yea/home/imac-software/yealogger-project
> ---
> SkookumLogger 
> . by Bill, K1GQ (author uses K3)
> . free
> . CW contest logger, patterned after CT contest logger, uses K1EL keyer for 
> CW)
> . Cocoa framework
> http://web.me.com/wlmyers/K1GQ/SkookumLogger.html
> ---
> 
> RUMped, YaeLogger and SkookumLogger are written by hard core 
> contesters/DXpeditioners.  
> 
> RUMped, RUMlog and SkookumLogger authors use the K3.  
> 
> RUMlog and RUMped don't use Cocoa, but (like the K3 Utility for the Mac) you 
> probably won't find too many things that affect its operation (RUMped even 
> uses AppleScript to get its waterfall display from cocoaModem).
> 
> (Personally, I use BBEdit for logging :-).
> 
> 73
> Chen, W7AY

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Purchase and Accessories Questions

2010-09-30 Thread Jim Brown
  There is great benefit from peer review, especially if those doing the 
reviewing have great knowledge of the topic. I have learned a LOT over 
the years by posting what I think I know, and having good people point 
out things that I missed or got wrong.

73, Jim K9YC

On 9/30/2010 1:18 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
> Yup, less problem ... also less risk, less learned, less taught.
>
> The world is not improved by those who insist on standing on the 
> sidelines or hiding in the shadows.

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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity Receive

2010-09-30 Thread Craig D. Smith
I connect the K9AY to the K3 "RX in" and the Clifton to the SUB RX "AUX in".
This will give you K9AY in left ear and active whip in right when you select
"RX ANT".
I also have a switch to select either the K9AY or the Clifton for the SUB RX
"AUX in" when I'm listening on the Xmit antenna.  The K9AY is fed thru a 3
db splitter to both the "RX in" and the "AUX in" selection switch.

73  Craig  AC0DS

<> When you say " I typically use the Clifton and the K9AY together for
<> diversity RX"  how do you do that?


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Re: [Elecraft] Logging software for Mac

2010-09-30 Thread chas
Thank you to those who have contributed to this thread.
Yet another example of how very useful this mailing list can be to us 
all.  As a result I have now started to use RUMlog.

73 from Charles - M0BIN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Purchase and Accessories Questions

2010-09-30 Thread Don Cunningham
Sorry to the group.  I meant to send my advice to Mark off reflector and hit 
the wrong button.  I knew one of the "guru's" would disagree with something 
I said, and I usually avoid posting here for that reason.  Again, my 
apologies, won't happen again.  If any of my stuff might happen to be 
useful, only the asker will get the advantage of it.  So it goes.
73,
Don 

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Re: [Elecraft] Logging software for Mac

2010-09-30 Thread Rick Prather
True, but RUmlog has much better integration with the K3.

The K3 status panel and macro buttons have become features I miss when I only 
run MLDX.

I also occasionally use RUMlog's access to FSK D.

I do run MLDX at the same time because I like it's QRZ look up and general 
appearance.

Rick
K6LE

On 9/30/2010, at 6:59 , Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> 
> RUMLog is a bit more than a pure DX/Contest package, for example it
> includes good QSL tracking capabilities, but it does not have the
> breadth of features found in MLDX.
> 
> 73,
> 
>... Joe, W4TV

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[Elecraft] K2 and panadapter add-on in CQ

2010-09-30 Thread H. Cary
K2 Owners-
The new issue of CQ magazine (Oct 2010) has an interesting piece on adding
panadapter capability to a K2, including color photo of the buffer amp
installation.  You can find it on pages 80-81 - under the heading
"Repurposing a Softrock" - very interesting!
73,
"H" Cary, K4TM
K2-100 #4991
K3-100 #3448



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Purchase and Accessories Questions

2010-09-30 Thread Jim Brown
  On 9/30/2010 10:45 AM, Don Cunningham wrote:
> I use the 400hz 8 pole filter for RTTY, for PSK 31 you will probably want to
> see the whole range of avaliable stations, so the SSB filter would be better
> in my mind.
Not necessarily. While using a wideband 2.7kHz IF and letting the PSK31 
decoding software do the filtering in DSP is certainly the most common 
way to work PSK31, you can gain a lot of signal to noise ratio by using 
a very narrow IF filter. This would be especially useful under tough 
noise conditions or heavy QRM.

It's also important to realize that the optional filters you buy are 
ROOFING filters that protect the IF from overload by strong signals in 
its passband, which can be QRM or QRN (either local noise or static 
crashes).  IF filtering is provided by DSP, so you can set anything you 
want by turning a knob. Seasoned operators have generally settled on the 
stock 2.7 kHz filter, the 1.8 kHz filter for serious SSB contesting or 
DXing, and the 400 Hz filter for CW. Those who are even more serious 
contesters also use the 250 Hz filter for CW and RTTY.  That's the 
collection I use.

Filters are easy to add later if you only have one RX, so 2.7 kHz plus 
400 Hz is a really good starting point. If, however, you have the Sub RX 
installed, you want to do it right away, because it is a real PITA to do 
ANYTHING inside the radio, even something as simple as changing filters. 
That's because the sub-RX is a real "shoe-horn job."

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 headphone jack failure question

2010-09-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
  John,

I believe you have caught a different bug.  The usual failure is that 
the headphones still work, but the speaker does not - sometimes the 
speaker stays on even though the headphones are plugged in.

It sounds like you have just lost all audio, and the reason for that can 
be widespread throughout the receiver.  Does the S-meter move?  If so 
that rules out a failure prior to the 2nd Xtal filter.

A signal generator and a 'scope would be helpful for your Receiver 
Signal Tracing (see Appendix E in the manual).  If you have neither, 
consider building the signal generator shown in the manual and the RF Probe.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/30/2010 1:09 PM, John Grimm wrote:
> I went to plug in my headphones this morning to the headphone jack, and 
> immediately lost all audio to both the headphone out jack and internal rig 
> speaker.  Would this be a typical symptom of the oft-referred to K2 headphone 
> jack failure?  If so I believe I've now caught the bug...
>
> Thanks much for any feedback.
>
> John / K0YQ
>
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[Elecraft] Nearly all sorted Don

2010-09-30 Thread EI7GN

Thanks for the help Don, it was C24. When i touched c24 the rx sprang bak to
life. I have re-soldered it and all is ok now. Tx fine too and atu tunes now
also.
Just the CW Sidetone to sort now.

Thanks againJohn EI7GN
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Re: [Elecraft] [K-3] RTTY for Dummies

2010-09-30 Thread Don Cunningham
Joe,
What you are doing is exactly what I want to do when I get this antenna 
project of mine completed.  I have requested a couple of options be added to 
the K3 Utility terminal program, and Dick has said he will look into it. 
The next step, I hope, is VGA output on the P3 and giving us the K3 Utility 
terminal printing on our VGA monitors!!!  Hope that occurs, and soon, 
hi.
73,
Don, WB5HAK 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Purchase and Accessories Questions

2010-09-30 Thread Don Cunningham
Mark,
The KUSB is Elecraft's USB to serial adapter.  I would try yours first to 
see if it works before buying another one.  Elecraft's uses FTDI chips now 
and works well, however.

I use the 400hz 8 pole filter for RTTY, for PSK 31 you will probably want to 
see the whole range of avaliable stations, so the SSB filter would be better 
in my mind.

The 2.7 khz filter is 5 pole, the 2.8 is 8 pole.  I chose the 2.8 8 pole as 
you do all the transmitting through it and I want a clean signal.

The cable from the K3 to the 8410, which I also use, is a simple RCA to RCA 
cable shielded (Radio Shack or others).  No need to buy an expensive 
interface.  Works quite well at whatever power level you choose!!

73 and good luck with your K3,
Don, WB5HAK 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K-3] RTTY for Dummies

2010-09-30 Thread Andrew Faber
Joe,
  An even simpler approach that doesn't even require a computer is to just 
use the text decode feature of the K3, which scrolls RTTY text on the VFO B 
display.  I made a number of search and pounce Qs this way in the contest. 
Memories with your callsign and the exchange can be recorded using a paddle 
plugged into the radio.  Although not elegant, it's then also possible to 
send RTTY from the paddle (if necessary) since the K3 automatically will 
convert the CW into RTTY.
  Someday I'll do RTTY properly, but this method suffices for casual "help 
your friends out in the contest" mode, hi.
  73, Andy, AE6Y
  CU all in CQP  this weekend!  Starts at 1600Z on Saturday and runs to 
2200Z on Sunday.  See www.cqp.org for details.
- Original Message - 
From: "W8JH" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K-3] RTTY for Dummies


>
> Tom,
>I asked essentially the same question last week and received good info
> from the reflector.  After reading over 100 pages of AA5AU's excellent
> website and the MMTY pdf manual I still couldn't get things going.  I was
> still messing around with sound card settings and computer junk.  I 
> decided
> to again try the RTTY already built in the K3 and to further simplify I 
> used
> the K3 Utility program to get a bigger window for decoded text.  Here are
> the steps that worked for this Dummy:
>
> 1. Turn on K3
> 2. Launch K3 Utility and make sure it is talking to the K3
> 3. Put K3 in Data mode (next mode down from CW)
> 4. Press and hold the AFX key to enter Data Mode menu
> 5. Turn Sub VFO knob until FSK D at 45 Baud is showing.  Press AFX key to
> exit this mode now.
> 6. Turn on CWT so you have the tuning indicator showing.
> 7. Tune SLOWLY so you have 2-3 bars on each side of the CWT gap.  I 
> listened
> to the audio as well to help me get a feel for tuning.  Once you have the
> tuning down you will be cooking with gas.
>
>  You should now have RTTY printing on the K3 Utility screen.  You can use
> the memories to preload exchanges or just rag chew in the text window.  No
> additional 3.5mm cables etc. needed.
>
>  I spent a couple hours each evening of the CQWW RTTY contest using this.
> I had 100 watts out through a wire antenna on 40 meters only.  I just
> wandered down the band each night and had 70 QSO's which accounted for 28
> countries (DXCC entities) on 40m.  Once I got going I wondered why I never
> worked RTTY before (been licensed since 1972).
>
>  That's what worked for this Dummy, YMMV.
>
> 73,
>
> Joe  W8JH,  K3 1713
>
>
>
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[Elecraft] K3 Purchase and Accessories Questions

2010-09-30 Thread pastormg2

I am just finalizing what I might need on a new K3.  They have an option called 
the KUSB which I assume in a USB Port for upgrading the firmware.  I already 
have a  USB to Serial Port adapter that I have used on my TS-480S.  Would the 
KUSB be necessary?

Also I am not much of a CW operator but do operate PSK31.  I see an option for 
either a 5 pole 500 HZ filter or a 8 pole 400HZ filter.  Which would work well 
with this particular mode.  I also like to operate the other digital modes also.

And, I am more of a SSB operator as of the past few years.  I see that the K3 
has standard a 2.7 HZ filter which I assume is 8 Pole but then again I'm not 
sure.  But there is also an option for a 8 pole 2.8 HZ filter.  Which would 
work the best for this mode?

Finally I will need to hook up my Amp. which is an Alpha 8410.  I'm not sure 
exactly what the cable is that I am using currently on my TS-480s,  But has 
anyone connected a K3 with an Alpha 8410.  And if so where did you purchase 
your connection cable?

I appreciate any advice I will recieve.  Mark KB3Z
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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity Receive

2010-09-30 Thread Edward R. Cole
Good topic and timely for me.

I have the K3/10 with dual-Rx and no KAT-3.  I use an inverted-L for 
600m (495.6 KHz) and plan to make a rotatable shielded loop antenna 
for alternate Rx.  Best location is a corner of our back deck but 
this is nearly underneath the horizontal wires of the inverted-L 
(43x130 foot).  There may be some interaction between the two antenna 
(1/4 WL at 500-KHz is 930-foot).  I may configure the invert-L for 
160m later this fall when I have the 300w PA QRV.

I could configure for diversity Rx, I think.  The inverted-L is 
connected to the XVT Rx&Tx connectors since the K3 is run in 
TEST-mode on this frequency (actually, two coax lines connect to the 
600m xmtr where there is a T/R relay that connects to the 
inverted-L).  But normally the aux-Rx would be connected to the aux 
antenna jack.  Since this is outside normal ham freq., the KBPF-3 is used.

Anyone see any problems with what I propose?  If diversity cannot be 
done then switching between Rx is adequate for selecting antennas.  I 
haven't played with diversity reception, so far.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity Receive

2010-09-30 Thread Vic K2VCO
On 9/30/2010 8:39 AM, Jim Cox wrote:
> What kind of antennas are most using for HF diversity receive?   I wonder how 
> the small
> active antenna produced by Clifton Labs would work as a diversity antenna on 
> the HF
> bands.   I have a K9AY loop that works well on 160 and 80 meters but its dead 
> on other
> bands..

I have very little room for antennas, so I use polarization diversity. I have a 
short 
groundplane (originally intended for 17 meters) which I use for diversity 
together with 40 
and 80 meter dipoles. I use the K3's preamp with the groundplane, and normally 
use the 
attenuator on the 80m dipole. This is a big help with weak cw signals on 40m, 
less so (but 
still useful) on 80.

On 20m I have a beam, and since the signal is always much better on the beam, 
there's no 
advantage from diversity. Sometimes it is useful to check if I'm hearing a 
signal via long 
path without rotating the beam.

On 160m I have a small ferrite loop which I use for diversity together with my 
transmitting antenna, a vertical. I have an external preamp for the loop and I 
use the K3 
preamp too. I also use the attenuator on the vertical. It helps a little, but 
there are 
lots of better 160m receiving antennas like the K9AY and Beverage.
-- 
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[Elecraft] K2 headphone jack failure question

2010-09-30 Thread John Grimm

I went to plug in my headphones this morning to the headphone jack, and 
immediately lost all audio to both the headphone out jack and internal rig 
speaker.  Would this be a typical symptom of the oft-referred to K2 headphone 
jack failure?  If so I believe I've now caught the bug...

Thanks much for any feedback.

John / K0YQ
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity Receive

2010-09-30 Thread David Cutter
Craig

When you say " I typically use the Clifton and the K9AY together for 
diversity RX"  how do you do that?

David
G3UNA


>I have the Clifton active whip as well as a K9AY, and use both with
> diversity RX.  The Clifton is a fine choice as an alternative RX and
> diversity antenna.  Note that both the Clifton and K9AY are vertically
> polarized.  Ideally your diversity antennas should have opposite
> polarization and adequate physical separation.  I'm in a cramped location
> here and the most separation between any two antennas is about 70 ft, so 
> far
> from ideal, especially on the low bands.  When I use my temporary doublet
> for a Xmit antenna, I normally use that in conjunction with either the
> Clifton or the K9AY for diversity.  When I use my Xmit vertical, I 
> typically
> use the Clifton and the K9AY together for diversity RX.  In spite of the
> less than optimal arrangements here, I still find that diversity RX is 
> quite
> worthwhile, and enjoy the way it is implemented in the K3.
>
> 73   Craig  AC0DS 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K-3] RTTY for Dummies

2010-09-30 Thread W8JH

Tom,
I asked essentially the same question last week and received good info
from the reflector.  After reading over 100 pages of AA5AU's excellent
website and the MMTY pdf manual I still couldn't get things going.  I was
still messing around with sound card settings and computer junk.  I decided
to again try the RTTY already built in the K3 and to further simplify I used
the K3 Utility program to get a bigger window for decoded text.  Here are
the steps that worked for this Dummy:

1. Turn on K3
2. Launch K3 Utility and make sure it is talking to the K3
3. Put K3 in Data mode (next mode down from CW)
4. Press and hold the AFX key to enter Data Mode menu
5. Turn Sub VFO knob until FSK D at 45 Baud is showing.  Press AFX key to
exit this mode now.
6. Turn on CWT so you have the tuning indicator showing.
7. Tune SLOWLY so you have 2-3 bars on each side of the CWT gap.  I listened
to the audio as well to help me get a feel for tuning.  Once you have the
tuning down you will be cooking with gas.  

  You should now have RTTY printing on the K3 Utility screen.  You can use
the memories to preload exchanges or just rag chew in the text window.  No
additional 3.5mm cables etc. needed.

  I spent a couple hours each evening of the CQWW RTTY contest using this. 
I had 100 watts out through a wire antenna on 40 meters only.  I just
wandered down the band each night and had 70 QSO's which accounted for 28
countries (DXCC entities) on 40m.  Once I got going I wondered why I never
worked RTTY before (been licensed since 1972).

  That's what worked for this Dummy, YMMV.

73,

Joe  W8JH,  K3 1713



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[Elecraft] [K3} Should AGC settings be changed?

2010-09-30 Thread Chuck Guenther
  Barry,

I find myself experimenting frequently with the AGC threshold and slope 
settings.
Don't forget that these menu items can be assigned to the PF or M keys 
so they can be easily
accessed and changed.  Since I don't use the K3 internal keyer (I use an 
external microHam
CW keyer), I use M1T for AGC "THR," and M1H for "SLP."

73,
Chuck  NI0C
K3 s/n 1061

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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity Receive

2010-09-30 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
On 40 meters and up, I use transmitting antennas at 90 degree offset.  90
degree offset dipoles on 40 deliver a surprising separation on weak dx
signals who don't have the big towers and beams.  At high incoming angles
the offset dipoles separate the signals by incoming polarization.

73, Guy.

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Craig D. Smith wrote:

> I have the Clifton active whip as well as a K9AY, and use both with
> diversity RX.  The Clifton is a fine choice as an alternative RX and
> diversity antenna.  Note that both the Clifton and K9AY are vertically
> polarized.  Ideally your diversity antennas should have opposite
> polarization and adequate physical separation.  I'm in a cramped location
> here and the most separation between any two antennas is about 70 ft, so
> far
> from ideal, especially on the low bands.  When I use my temporary doublet
> for a Xmit antenna, I normally use that in conjunction with either the
> Clifton or the K9AY for diversity.  When I use my Xmit vertical, I
> typically
> use the Clifton and the K9AY together for diversity RX.  In spite of the
> less than optimal arrangements here, I still find that diversity RX is
> quite
> worthwhile, and enjoy the way it is implemented in the K3.
>
> 73   Craig  AC0DS
>
> <> I wonder how the
> <> small active antenna produced by Clifton Labs would work as a diversity
> antenna on the
> <> HF bands.   I have a K9AY loop that works well on 160 and 80 meters but
> its dead on
> <> other bands..
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Flex 1500 second K3 Receiver

2010-09-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 > I have both radios and love them. Is there software that will make
 > either radio track the other?

That feature is available in CI-V Commander, part of the DXLab Suite
which includes DXKeeper (logging package) and SpotCollector (DX
alerting software).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 9/30/2010 10:59 AM, John Seney wrote:
> I have both radios and love them. Is there software that will make either 
> radio track the other? I also have the P3 and am very impressed. Great 
> engineering!
>
> 73
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> John Seney
> WD1V
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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity Receive

2010-09-30 Thread Craig D. Smith
I have the Clifton active whip as well as a K9AY, and use both with
diversity RX.  The Clifton is a fine choice as an alternative RX and
diversity antenna.  Note that both the Clifton and K9AY are vertically
polarized.  Ideally your diversity antennas should have opposite
polarization and adequate physical separation.  I'm in a cramped location
here and the most separation between any two antennas is about 70 ft, so far
from ideal, especially on the low bands.  When I use my temporary doublet
for a Xmit antenna, I normally use that in conjunction with either the
Clifton or the K9AY for diversity.  When I use my Xmit vertical, I typically
use the Clifton and the K9AY together for diversity RX.  In spite of the
less than optimal arrangements here, I still find that diversity RX is quite
worthwhile, and enjoy the way it is implemented in the K3.

73   Craig  AC0DS 

<> I wonder how the
<> small active antenna produced by Clifton Labs would work as a diversity
antenna on the
<> HF bands.   I have a K9AY loop that works well on 160 and 80 meters but
its dead on
<> other bands..

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Re: [Elecraft] Flex 1500 second K3 Receiver

2010-09-30 Thread Steve Ellington
John
Take a look at RigSync
http://www.ehr.net/w2rf/

Steve N4LQ

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To: 
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Subject: [Elecraft] Flex 1500 second K3 Receiver


>I have both radios and love them. Is there software that will make either 
>radio track the other? I also have the P3 and am very impressed. Great 
>engineering!
>
> 73
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> John Seney
> WD1V
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity Receive

2010-09-30 Thread w5ov
Jim,

Turn off the preamp in your K9AY system and you can use it on other bands.

The preamp includes a bandpass filter for 160 and 80. You should have
usable sensitivity on other bands without the preamp.

73,

Bob W5OV

> What kind of antennas are most using for HF diversity receive?   I wonder
> how the small active antenna produced by Clifton Labs would work as a
> diversity antenna on the HF bands.   I have a K9AY loop that works well on
> 160 and 80 meters but its dead on other bands..
>
> Jim K4JAF
>
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[Elecraft] Diversity Receive

2010-09-30 Thread Jim Cox
What kind of antennas are most using for HF diversity receive?   I wonder how 
the small active antenna produced by Clifton Labs would work as a diversity 
antenna on the HF bands.   I have a K9AY loop that works well on 160 and 80 
meters but its dead on other bands.. 

Jim K4JAF

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 no TX on 20m&30m, no sidetone. after KIO2 upgrade. Any Pointers?

2010-09-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
  John,

I doubt that you did anything on the Control Board to cause this problem.
20 meters and 30 meters share part of the bandpass filter and the entire 
Low Pass Filter.
Check the Low Pass Filter first.  Since it receives weakly on both 
bands, try connecting an antenna center conductor through a .001 uf 
capacitor to a couple points in the K2  - first get a "level set" by 
connecting to the AUX RF connector (the pin toward the inside of the K2 
- if the signal is louder than at the KAT2 antenna jack, then the 
problem is in the KAT2 (did you inadvertently set those bands to ANT2?).
The next point is the W1 jumper (or pin 1 of the K160RX if installed).  
If the signal got louder, the low pass filter is the problem area.
Next is the W6 jumper (or pin 3 of the K60XV option) - this bypasses 
both the LPF and the T/R switch area.
If you still have low signals there, you can conclude that your problem 
is likely in the bandpass filter.  To verify, touch the capacitor to the 
cathode of either D6 or D7 - you will likely hear a lot of extraneous 
noise because you have bypassed any receiver front end filtering, but 
the relative strength of the signal should indicate where the problem lies.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 9/30/2010 10:41 AM, EI7GN wrote:
> Hi Guys, My K2 serial#01291, with KSB2, K160RX, KNB2, KAF2, KAT2, KBT2,  Rev
> A control board.
>
> 2 days ago i decided to build the KIOS that has been sitting on the bench
> for a year now. I took a full day to build and fit same. I removed the
> control board and did the sidetone mod (cut trace) with the two link wires
> and cap. On the back of the control board thier were two large resistors in
> series (83ohms each) soldered together bent over and heat shrink around
> them. They were soldered to RP5 at pins 7&  10 at least it looked like 10 as
> it was broken away and not connected or I may have broken it away during
> dissasembly. Anyway I soldered to 10. I reasembled the radio with the new
> KIOS.
> I changed the sidetone in the menu and got side tone.
> Next I noticed Lo P indicated when I try to tune auto atu on 20m or 30m
> only. No output. all other bands ok.
> Also receive is very very weak on 20m&  30m, all other bands ok.
> I thought maybe the two resistors should have been disconnected, so took
> them out. no difference.
> Then thought maybe a problem with the cut trace mod i did on ctrl board.
> Reversed that no change.
> So put the resistors back, no change. Last thing I did was take out the
> resistors. I now have a barely audible sidetone that must  have happened
> somewhere in the last few steps.
>
> Looking at the circuit I think 20m&  30m share bandpass filter, maybe i
> damaged it with the cable from the KIOS when I put the lid on with the new
> cable?
>
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[Elecraft] [K3} Should AGC settings be changed?

2010-09-30 Thread Barry

I've reviewed the archives and read several different recommendations for
changing AGC settings, ranging from changes the SLP from 4 to 15. OTOH, the
manual lists the SLP, THR, and PLS settings as "advanced," suggesting they
should be changed with caution.

Should I make any adjustments to the AGC config parameters?  I have a fairly
high noise level at my urban QTH.  With the SSB filter in, the S-meter sits
about S-6 and with the 400 Hz CW filter at S-3 or so.  
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Re: [Elecraft] Flex 1500 second K3 Receiver

2010-09-30 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
If you are talking about diversity receive, two receivers must use the SAME
source for all the generated conversion frequencies, in order to have them
BOTH locked at the same frequency and phase. Although it is theoretically
possible to phase lock a Flex and a K3 by some device, equipment makers have
zero financial incentive to spend development dollars on something that
might service customers who can be counted on the fingers of one hand.  Even
less incentive than none if that something steers customers to another
brand.

K3/KRX3 is the best AND cheapest diversity ever put down for hams.  I've
used it and the results are stunning if you have the ANTENNAS for RX
diversity.  It's like the integration between the K3 and P3.  The
development and hard work to debug their very complex interaction and make
them work together is paid for by BUYING them together.

73, Guy.

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:59 AM, John Seney  wrote:

> I have both radios and love them. Is there software that will make either
> radio track the other? I also have the P3 and am very impressed. Great
> engineering!
>
> 73
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> John Seney
> WD1V
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[Elecraft] Flex 1500 second K3 Receiver

2010-09-30 Thread John Seney
I have both radios and love them. Is there software that will make either radio 
track the other? I also have the P3 and am very impressed. Great engineering!

73

Sent from my iPhone
John Seney
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[Elecraft] K2 no TX on 20m&30m, no sidetone. after KIO2 upgrade. Any Pointers?

2010-09-30 Thread EI7GN

Hi Guys, My K2 serial#01291, with KSB2, K160RX, KNB2, KAF2, KAT2, KBT2,  Rev
A control board.

2 days ago i decided to build the KIOS that has been sitting on the bench
for a year now. I took a full day to build and fit same. I removed the
control board and did the sidetone mod (cut trace) with the two link wires
and cap. On the back of the control board thier were two large resistors in
series (83ohms each) soldered together bent over and heat shrink around
them. They were soldered to RP5 at pins 7 & 10 at least it looked like 10 as
it was broken away and not connected or I may have broken it away during
dissasembly. Anyway I soldered to 10. I reasembled the radio with the new
KIOS.
I changed the sidetone in the menu and got side tone. 
Next I noticed Lo P indicated when I try to tune auto atu on 20m or 30m
only. No output. all other bands ok.
Also receive is very very weak on 20m & 30m, all other bands ok.
I thought maybe the two resistors should have been disconnected, so took
them out. no difference.
Then thought maybe a problem with the cut trace mod i did on ctrl board.
Reversed that no change.
So put the resistors back, no change. Last thing I did was take out the
resistors. I now have a barely audible sidetone that must  have happened
somewhere in the last few steps.

Looking at the circuit I think 20m & 30m share bandpass filter, maybe i
damaged it with the cable from the KIOS when I put the lid on with the new
cable?

Any pointers appreciated John
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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

2010-09-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 > Tom was using RUMped, not RUMlog at 9X0TL.  And µH Router was never
 > in the loop; RUMped talks directly to the digiKeyer II.
 >

My mistake.  What I saw looked like RUMlog.  My cursory evaluation a
couple months ago showed interoperability with RUMlog, uH Router,
cocoaModem and DK II.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 9/29/2010 3:45 PM, Kok Chen wrote:
>
> On Sep 29, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
>> Tom is using a DigiKeyer II and K3 with RUMlog, uH Router and cocoaModem 
>> during his current stay in Rwanda.
>
> Tom was using RUMped, not RUMlog at 9X0TL.  And µH Router was never in the 
> loop; RUMped talks directly to the digiKeyer II.
>
> The 9X0TL Quicktime link that I'd posted earlier today was an interesting 
> software Rube Goldberg exercise by itself.
>
> The transmit RTTY tones (using the K3 FSK KY command, I believe) come from 
> the K3's monitor.  The RTTY receive tones that you hear come from 
> cocoaModem's Aural Monitor.  Tom uses a wideband waterfall to tune in his 
> stations.  For aural monitoring, clicked signals in cocoaModem are filtered 
> and converted to a single fixed RTTY tone pair, no matter where he'd clicked. 
>  The video comes from the Quicktime screen capture function.
>
> The "roger beep" that you hear occurs when the cocoaModem "click buffer" 
> transitions from the "tape loop" to real time data (I turn it off myself, but 
> Tom prefers it on).
>
> Sometime within that Quicktime movie, Tom switched off the narrow filter in 
> the cocoaModem aural monitor, and you can hear the entire cacophony of people 
> calling him (thank goodness for sufficient dynamic range :-).  He turned the 
> narrow aural filter back on and regained sanity before the end of the movie.
>
> Tom has posted a picture of him in his Rwanda "shack" (K3, 600W amp, MacBook 
> Pro, digiKeyer II) here:
>
> http://dl2rum.de/dl2rum/DL2RUM_Home.html
>
> 73
> Chen, W7AY
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Re: [Elecraft] Logging software for Mac

2010-09-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 > I have to disagree with you about RUMlog Joe.  I use it for general
 > logging all the time.

RUMLog is a bit more than a pure DX/Contest package, for example it
includes good QSL tracking capabilities, but it does not have the
breadth of features found in MLDX.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 9/30/2010 2:59 AM, Ian Maude wrote:
> I have to disagree with you about RUMlog Joe.  I use it for general logging
> all the time.  It even has net control which is a boon for me.  RUMped does
> the contesting stuff very well and I also use that but RUMlog is a terrific
> general purpose logger.  I especially like being able to search my log while
> I am in the middle of logging another contact.  This is very useful at
> times.
>
> 73 Ian
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> SysOp GB7MBC&  HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
> Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
> http://www.m0scg.org.uk
>
>
>
> On 29 September 2010 19:57, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
>
>>
>>   >  Try out RUMlog by DL2RUM.
>>
>> RUMlog  is a more focused program
>> for the contester and DXer.
>>
>>   >>  I have been using MacLoggerDX from Dogpark Software with my iMac and
>>   >>  several rigs, including my current K3, for three years now.
>>
>> Maclogger DX  is a more
>> full-featured package with the best support of any Mac based logging
>> offering.
>>
>> Both are outstanding offerings ... with excellent support for both
>> K2 and K3.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 9/29/2010 1:53 PM, Ian Maude wrote:
>>> Try out RUMlog by DL2RUM.  It's free, brilliant and well supported.
>>>
>>> 73 Ian
>>> --
>>> Ian J Maude, G0VGS
>>> SysOp GB7MBC&   HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
>>> Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
>>> http://www.m0scg.org.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 September 2010 18:42, Randy Cook   wrote:
>>>
 I have been using MacLoggerDX from Dogpark Software with my iMac and
 several rigs, including my current K3, for three years now.  It is one
>> of
 the best software products I have ever used on any platform.  The
>> support is
 'Elecraft -like" - great customer service from the author and a very
 knowledgable user community via the Yahoo group.

 http://dogparksoftware.com/MacLoggerDX.html

 The application supports both the K2 and the K3.  There is a limited use
 trial available.


 73s

 Randy K6CRC
 K3#2051
 k6...@arrl.net




 On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:44 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

>>
>> Have recently aquired an Apple/Mac
>> computer to use with my K3 setup.? Anyone know of
>> suitable logging program that I can use with the Apple/Mac
>> computer
>>
>> 73
>>
>> John G3LWI
>>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Logging software for Mac

2010-09-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 > Remember also that Wine is available and runs well on OSX

When you start down that path, VMware, Parallels Desktop, etc.
are also available that allow most (all) of the Windows loggers
to run on a Mac.  However, there is a significant difference
between running Windows in a virtual machine and running native
OS-X software.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 9/30/2010 5:37 AM, Ian Greenshields wrote:
> Remember also that Wine is available and runs well on OSX
>
> I use both Win-Test and KComm on my iMac; both run perfectly with the
> K2&  K3. SD runs also but can be quirky.
>
> KComm could probably be compiled to run directly on the Mac also as
> the source code is available, but I'm too scared to try it.
>
> 73 Ian G4FSU
>
>> On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:44 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
>>

 Have recently aquired an Apple/Mac
 computer to use with my K3 setup.? Anyone know of
 suitable logging program that I can use with the Apple/Mac
 computer

 73

 John G3LWI

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Re: [Elecraft] Logging software for Mac

2010-09-30 Thread Bob Nielsen
Fldigi is available for Macs and has a built-in log which is somewhat 
rudimentary.  I haven't tried, but suspect it wouldn't take a lot of work to 
get Xlog to run in OS X, along with hamlib to support a K2 or K3.   

Bob, N7XY

On Sep 30, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Ian Greenshields wrote:

> Remember also that Wine is available and runs well on OSX
> 
> I use both Win-Test and KComm on my iMac; both run perfectly with the
> K2 & K3. SD runs also but can be quirky.
> 
> KComm could probably be compiled to run directly on the Mac also as
> the source code is available, but I'm too scared to try it.
> 
> 73 Ian G4FSU
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:44 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
>> 
 
 Have recently aquired an Apple/Mac
 computer to use with my K3 setup.? Anyone know of
 suitable logging program that I can use with the Apple/Mac
 computer
 
 73
 
 John G3LWI
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Logging software for Mac

2010-09-30 Thread Ian Greenshields
Remember also that Wine is available and runs well on OSX

I use both Win-Test and KComm on my iMac; both run perfectly with the
K2 & K3. SD runs also but can be quirky.

KComm could probably be compiled to run directly on the Mac also as
the source code is available, but I'm too scared to try it.

73 Ian G4FSU

> On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:44 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Have recently aquired an Apple/Mac
> >> computer to use with my K3 setup.? Anyone know of
> >> suitable logging program that I can use with the Apple/Mac
> >> computer
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> John G3LWI
> >>
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Logging software for Mac

2010-09-30 Thread Ian Maude
I have to disagree with you about RUMlog Joe.  I use it for general logging
all the time.  It even has net control which is a boon for me.  RUMped does
the contesting stuff very well and I also use that but RUMlog is a terrific
general purpose logger.  I especially like being able to search my log while
I am in the middle of logging another contact.  This is very useful at
times.

73 Ian
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SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
http://www.m0scg.org.uk



On 29 September 2010 19:57, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
>  > Try out RUMlog by DL2RUM.
>
> RUMlog  is a more focused program
> for the contester and DXer.
>
>  >> I have been using MacLoggerDX from Dogpark Software with my iMac and
>  >> several rigs, including my current K3, for three years now.
>
> Maclogger DX  is a more
> full-featured package with the best support of any Mac based logging
> offering.
>
> Both are outstanding offerings ... with excellent support for both
> K2 and K3.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 9/29/2010 1:53 PM, Ian Maude wrote:
> > Try out RUMlog by DL2RUM.  It's free, brilliant and well supported.
> >
> > 73 Ian
> > --
> > Ian J Maude, G0VGS
> > SysOp GB7MBC&  HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
> > Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
> > http://www.m0scg.org.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29 September 2010 18:42, Randy Cook  wrote:
> >
> >> I have been using MacLoggerDX from Dogpark Software with my iMac and
> >> several rigs, including my current K3, for three years now.  It is one
> of
> >> the best software products I have ever used on any platform.  The
> support is
> >> 'Elecraft -like" - great customer service from the author and a very
> >> knowledgable user community via the Yahoo group.
> >>
> >> http://dogparksoftware.com/MacLoggerDX.html
> >>
> >> The application supports both the K2 and the K3.  There is a limited use
> >> trial available.
> >>
> >>
> >> 73s
> >>
> >> Randy K6CRC
> >> K3#2051
> >> k6...@arrl.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:44 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> >>
> 
>  Have recently aquired an Apple/Mac
>  computer to use with my K3 setup.? Anyone know of
>  suitable logging program that I can use with the Apple/Mac
>  computer
> 
>  73
> 
>  John G3LWI
> 
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