[Elecraft] K3-P3-TR Logging Program

2010-10-21 Thread Lew
Just received the P3.  Connected up the K3-P3 and logging computer with TR 
working. I read and understand the difference in rate between the baud rates 
between the K3 and P3 (38,400) and the P3 and whatever the computer program 
needs. ( in this case 4800 as that is the fastest rate TR will take).  When I 
query the P3 with the K3 utility it reports the speed for the P3 at 4800 after 
I set it for that speed on the P3.  The TR program doesn't communicate with the 
P3 even though the rate  is correct.  When I turn off the P3 and reset the K3 
rate to 4800 it works perfectly.
A few questions:
 1) Does the P3 emulate the K3 as in using the Kenwood protocol for 
communication or is it a new animal that maybe TR doesn't recognize?
 2) Anybody have the K3-P3-TR logging program functioning all together?
 3) What am I not seeing wrong here?
 4) Yes I know I should get a non-DOS logging program but my current 
configuration really works well and I hate to fix it because it isn't broken!
   Tnx-  73 and I remain,
Lew   W7EW
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[Elecraft] K2: display quirk..

2010-10-21 Thread VK7JB

Hello All,

My base K2 is completed and KSB2, KNB2 and KDSP2 modules are installed and
working well. I'm relieved. Thanks to Don for his reassurance along the way.

I've noticed a quirk with the display of my K2 and can't find it mentioned
in the archives.  While tuning with the VFO, the display will jump for an
instant between either the power display or the keyer speed display.  It is
a very transient switch between the two displays.  It occurs infrequently
and I can't predict it.  Changing the position of the keyer speed and power
pots, in case they are close to some critical voltage position, hasn't
changed the glitch.  This makes no difference to the function of the K2, so
I'm just ignoring it, but I'm wondering if its particular to my K2, or if
others have noticed this.  Seems to me like it might be a processor issue.

Now on with the KPA100...

Thanks and 73
John
VK7JB
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Re: [Elecraft] For Sale

2010-10-21 Thread iz0fyl

Hi
I'm very interested in your kx1.
please contact me on luca.amend...@uniroma1.it
thanks
luca

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC dead spot

2010-10-21 Thread Mike

Thanks, Vic.

Per Dale's suggestion I did a calibration using factory defaults, and the dead 
spot 
is gone, and the S-meter is back to rising with a decrease of RF gain. Dagnab 
it.

73, Mike NF4L

On 10/20/2010 11:50 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
 My guess is that you need to do the RF Gain Calibration procedure with the K3 
 utility. If
 you have an XG1 or XG2 you can use it as a calibrated source, or if not you 
 can tell the
 utility to use the factory default settings.

 On 10/20/2010 8:13 PM, Mike wrote:
 Tonight I noticed that from about 2:00 to 2:30 on the RF gain encoder, the 
 receiver
 goes dead. It's not dependent on the THR or SLP settings which I adjusted to 
 match
 some advice given here short time past.

 I also realized my S-meter doesn't rise as the RF gain is reduced. I like 
 that, but I
 don't know how it got that way. :-P

 I have the latest firmware.

 It's not really a big deal, but is is puzzling.

 73, Mike NF4L


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 S/N 7012 lives!

2010-10-21 Thread Alan Davenport


It certainly was a challenge. I got the kit around Sept. 1st and thought I 
would 
have it done by my mid-september vacation. (Ha!) I'll admit I was a bit 
overwhelmed when I opented the box. I had not built a kit of any size for 
nearly 
30 years when I built a Heathkit stereo. One of my first thoughts upon opening 
the box was what have I got myself into!?

What I forgot to mention in my original post was that when the clip lead 
slipped 
and shorted out the PA transistors The radio would not power up at that point 
due to the shorted transistors. Studying the schematic I saw that if I removed 
T3 I would remove power to that section of the circuit. I did so and (whew) the 
K2 powered up again. That allowed me to continue de-bugging the recieve issues 
while waiting for hte replacement transistors. (I ordered TWO sets by the way 
hihi)

I bought the radio for QRP backpacking. I have been using an FT-817. The thing 
is, the K2 is so nice I don't know if I can bring myself to take it outside on 
a 
hike!

    73 de Al, W2GZN



From: Byron Servies by...@servies.us
To: Alan Davenport w2...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:56:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 S/N 7012 lives!

On Wednesday, October 20, 2010, Alan Davenport w2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 K2 S/N 7012 lives!

 I just finished assembly and testing of my K2 and it is working 100%.

Congratulations! I'm very jealous; I very much enjoy K1 2799 that I
built over Christmas last year but am ready to move up to a K2.

Hopefully I can complete one before Field Day next year. Just have to
save up the $$ first!

Enjoy your radio!

73 de Byron KI6NUL

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[Elecraft] RF Gain Factory Defaults

2010-10-21 Thread Malcolm Rothwell

After seeing various posts on this subject, thought I'd give it a try.
Unfortunately when I opt for factory defaults and click on Calibrate I get
the following error message : E0400E3 ERR DSE on the K3 display and on the
K3 utility I see DSP command response did not arrive. The radio is
performing normally, should I panic??

73 Mal G4KFT

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Re: [Elecraft] RF Gain Factory Defaults

2010-10-21 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Don't panic!
check you've installed the latest F/W and you have installed all files (all 
checkboxes in K3 Util for files checked).

If it's not installing correctly, double check the baud speed on both K3 and 
Util.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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On 21 Oct 2010, at 12:08, Malcolm Rothwell wrote:

 
 After seeing various posts on this subject, thought I'd give it a try.
 Unfortunately when I opt for factory defaults and click on Calibrate I get
 the following error message : E0400E3 ERR DSE on the K3 display and on the
 K3 utility I see DSP command response did not arrive. The radio is
 performing normally, should I panic??
 
 73 Mal G4KFT
 
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Re: [Elecraft] RF Gain Factory Defaults

2010-10-21 Thread Ken K3IU
Mal:
I've had a similar problem when using the XG1 to run the RF 
Calibration on the SUB Rx (Main works fine). Dick 
Dievendorff (author of K3 Utility) is aware of the problem 
and will hand it off to Lyle when he gets back from vacation 
shortly.
73,
Ken K3IU

On 10/21/2010 7:08 AM, Malcolm Rothwell wrote:
 After seeing various posts on this subject, thought I'd give it a try.
 Unfortunately when I opt for factory defaults and click on Calibrate I get
 the following error message : E0400E3 ERR DSE on the K3 display and on the
 K3 utility I see DSP command response did not arrive. The radio is
 performing normally, should I panic??

 73 Mal G4KFT

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Re: [Elecraft] RF Gain Factory Defaults

2010-10-21 Thread GM4KGK

Malcolm
This issue has been resolved with the latest version of the K3 Utility
(1.3.10.11).
Your firmware is probably OK, but it will do no harm to re-load it before
you run the Calibration procedure.
73
Norman - GM4KGK


Malcolm Rothwell wrote:
 
 Unfortunately when I opt for factory defaults and click on Calibrate I
 get the following error message : E0400E3 ERR DSE on the K3 display and on
 the K3 utility I see DSP command response did not arrive. 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC dead spot

2010-10-21 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
The thing to note here, this ain't your daddy's analog radio, the only
actual stage gain adjustments you have are ATT and PRE.  The rest is
all in the numbers, as the front panel knobs are just numerical advice
to the firmware.  They don't directly control anything.

What needs to happen is a calibration of what voltage sent to the
variable 8 MHz stage produces a specific number out of the 15 kHz
analog-to-digital converter, etc, and exactly what stage gain change
occurs when PRE enabled, ATT enabled.

Also note here that the PRE and ATT button is also just advice to the
firmware.  The button does not directly control a circuit, as opposed
to a DPDT switch carrying RF on its terminals that literally removes a
PRE from the circuit.  The in and out is done by a one or zero bit
state from the MCU, converted to a switching voltage which biases
various diodes which change the signal path in the RX.

All of this stuff gets tabled up in the firmware, which constantly
consults it to set levels in the output and optimize IF gain into the
15 kHz ADC.  If the numbers in the table are goofy, so will the
behavior be goofy.

Better to calibrate the K3 on a signal source (over the years, the
XG-2 will pay for itself, over and over) and have it right.

If you bought the radio assembled, this was done for you when you got
it.  If you assembled it, needs doing.

Personally, sometimes I think the tables get hosed by ??? and needs
redoing. Done it a couple of times to restore normal function and have
no clue what happened to make it that way.

73, Guy.

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Mike n...@nf4l.com wrote:

 Thanks, Vic.

 Per Dale's suggestion I did a calibration using factory defaults, and the 
 dead spot
 is gone, and the S-meter is back to rising with a decrease of RF gain. Dagnab 
 it.

 73, Mike NF4L

 On 10/20/2010 11:50 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
 My guess is that you need to do the RF Gain Calibration procedure with the 
 K3 utility. If
 you have an XG1 or XG2 you can use it as a calibrated source, or if not you 
 can tell the
 utility to use the factory default settings.

 On 10/20/2010 8:13 PM, Mike wrote:
 Tonight I noticed that from about 2:00 to 2:30 on the RF gain encoder, the 
 receiver
 goes dead. It's not dependent on the THR or SLP settings which I adjusted 
 to match
 some advice given here short time past.

 I also realized my S-meter doesn't rise as the RF gain is reduced. I like 
 that, but I
 don't know how it got that way. :-P

 I have the latest firmware.

 It's not really a big deal, but is is puzzling.

 73, Mike NF4L


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Re: [Elecraft] K2: display quirk..

2010-10-21 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hello John,

The display of my K2/100 #3255 behaves in similar fashion sometimes, albeit 
not often. I was at first concerned that this quirk might be a symptom of 
some serious problem, but the results of two tone IMD transmitter tests and 
receiver noise floor measurements I made showed no change when the display 
jumped. Thus I no longer worry about it.

Did you find the cause of the problem you had when using your remote antenna 
tuner?

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD


VK7JB wrote on  Thursday, October 21, 2010 at 10:25 +0100:



 Hello All,

 My base K2 is completed and KSB2, KNB2 and KDSP2 modules are installed and
 working well. I'm relieved. Thanks to Don for his reassurance along the 
 way.

 I've noticed a quirk with the display of my K2 and can't find it mentioned
 in the archives.  While tuning with the VFO, the display will jump for an
 instant between either the power display or the keyer speed display.  It 
 is
 a very transient switch between the two displays.  It occurs infrequently
 and I can't predict it.  Changing the position of the keyer speed and 
 power
 pots, in case they are close to some critical voltage position, hasn't
 changed the glitch.  This makes no difference to the function of the K2, 
 so
 I'm just ignoring it, but I'm wondering if its particular to my K2, or if
 others have noticed this.  Seems to me like it might be a processor issue.

 Now on with the KPA100...

 Thanks and 73
 John
 VK7JB


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC dead spot

2010-10-21 Thread Mike
I understand that the knob labeled RF doesn't really control RF gain, but since 
Elecraft labeled it that way, I think it's better to reference it that way.

I have an XG2, and had done the RF gain calibration using it. Dale recommended 
doing 
it using the factory defaults. I'm waiting to hear back from him why.

It's a kit, just a tad over a year old, with all available mods.

The mechanism by which the tables may get hosed is the same principle which 
makes 
them work. HPFM. (HocusPocusFreakyMagic) :-D .

73, Mike NF4L

On 10/21/2010 7:42 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 The thing to note here, this ain't your daddy's analog radio, the only
 actual stage gain adjustments you have are ATT and PRE.  The rest is
 all in the numbers, as the front panel knobs are just numerical advice
 to the firmware.  They don't directly control anything.

 What needs to happen is a calibration of what voltage sent to the
 variable 8 MHz stage produces a specific number out of the 15 kHz
 analog-to-digital converter, etc, and exactly what stage gain change
 occurs when PRE enabled, ATT enabled.

 Also note here that the PRE and ATT button is also just advice to the
 firmware.  The button does not directly control a circuit, as opposed
 to a DPDT switch carrying RF on its terminals that literally removes a
 PRE from the circuit.  The in and out is done by a one or zero bit
 state from the MCU, converted to a switching voltage which biases
 various diodes which change the signal path in the RX.

 All of this stuff gets tabled up in the firmware, which constantly
 consults it to set levels in the output and optimize IF gain into the
 15 kHz ADC.  If the numbers in the table are goofy, so will the
 behavior be goofy.

 Better to calibrate the K3 on a signal source (over the years, the
 XG-2 will pay for itself, over and over) and have it right.

 If you bought the radio assembled, this was done for you when you got
 it.  If you assembled it, needs doing.

 Personally, sometimes I think the tables get hosed by ??? and needs
 redoing. Done it a couple of times to restore normal function and have
 no clue what happened to make it that way.

 73, Guy.

 On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Miken...@nf4l.com  wrote:
 Thanks, Vic.

 Per Dale's suggestion I did a calibration using factory defaults, and the 
 dead spot
 is gone, and the S-meter is back to rising with a decrease of RF gain. 
 Dagnab it.

 73, Mike NF4L

 On 10/20/2010 11:50 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
 My guess is that you need to do the RF Gain Calibration procedure with the 
 K3 utility. If
 you have an XG1 or XG2 you can use it as a calibrated source, or if not you 
 can tell the
 utility to use the factory default settings.

 On 10/20/2010 8:13 PM, Mike wrote:
 Tonight I noticed that from about 2:00 to 2:30 on the RF gain encoder, the 
 receiver
 goes dead. It's not dependent on the THR or SLP settings which I adjusted 
 to match
 some advice given here short time past.

 I also realized my S-meter doesn't rise as the RF gain is reduced. I like 
 that, but I
 don't know how it got that way. :-P

 I have the latest firmware.

 It's not really a big deal, but is is puzzling.

 73, Mike NF4L

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Re: [Elecraft] K2: display quirk..

2010-10-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
  John,

Most K2s will do that on occasion.  It normally happens when the 
firmware is doing many tasks.
If it is frequent, then you may have a problem, but just occasionally, 
no problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/21/2010 5:25 AM, VK7JB wrote:
 Hello All,

 My base K2 is completed and KSB2, KNB2 and KDSP2 modules are installed and
 working well. I'm relieved. Thanks to Don for his reassurance along the way.

 I've noticed a quirk with the display of my K2 and can't find it mentioned
 in the archives.  While tuning with the VFO, the display will jump for an
 instant between either the power display or the keyer speed display.  It is
 a very transient switch between the two displays.  It occurs infrequently
 and I can't predict it.  Changing the position of the keyer speed and power
 pots, in case they are close to some critical voltage position, hasn't
 changed the glitch.  This makes no difference to the function of the K2, so
 I'm just ignoring it, but I'm wondering if its particular to my K2, or if
 others have noticed this.  Seems to me like it might be a processor issue.

 Now on with the KPA100...

 Thanks and 73
 John
 VK7JB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-P3-TR Logging Program

2010-10-21 Thread Ed Muns
W7EW wrote:
 Just received the P3.  Connected up the K3-P3 and logging 
 computer with TR working. I read and understand the 
 difference in rate between the baud rates between the K3 and 
 P3 (38,400) and the P3 and whatever the computer program 
 needs. ( in this case 4800 as that is the fastest rate TR 
 will take).  When I query the P3 with the K3 utility it 
 reports the speed for the P3 at 4800 after I set it for that 
 speed on the P3.  The TR program doesn't communicate with the 
 P3 even though the rate  is correct.  When I turn off the P3 
 and reset the K3 rate to 4800 it works perfectly.
 A few questions:
  1) Does the P3 emulate the K3 as in using the Kenwood 
 protocol for communication or is it a new animal that maybe 
 TR doesn't recognize?
  2) Anybody have the K3-P3-TR logging program functioning 
 all together?
  3) What am I not seeing wrong here?
  4) Yes I know I should get a non-DOS logging program but 
 my current configuration really works well and I hate to fix 
 it because it isn't broken!

I use TR-Log 6.95 with my K3s/P3s and there have been some versions of the
P3 firmware that did not work properly at 4800 Baud.  4800 did work in
version 0.35 or so, then broke in 0.38 and is now working again (I think) in
0.39 which is still in Beta.  So, QRX for a new version of the P3 firmware
that will work at 4800 Baud.  You'll have to leave the P3 turned off and
reset the K3 RS232 speed back to 4800 in the interim.

Alternatively, lobby Tree to add 38400 to TR-Log.  He claims it works with
an additional configuration command (USE IRQS = TRUE), but that didn't work
for me and I haven't heard back from Tree.

Ed - W0YK

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC dead spot

2010-10-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Mike,

Recently a bug was found with the RF Gain Calibration routine in K3 
Utility did not properly save the new data.
If you were not using the very latest K3 Utility, that would explain 
many anomalies.  Moral - download the latest K3 Utility and try again.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/21/2010 8:53 AM, Mike wrote:
 I understand that the knob labeled RF doesn't really control RF gain, but 
 since
 Elecraft labeled it that way, I think it's better to reference it that way.

 I have an XG2, and had done the RF gain calibration using it. Dale 
 recommended doing
 it using the factory defaults. I'm waiting to hear back from him why.

 It's a kit, just a tad over a year old, with all available mods.

 The mechanism by which the tables may get hosed is the same principle which 
 makes
 them work. HPFM. (HocusPocusFreakyMagic) :-D .

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[Elecraft] PSK-31 Decoding

2010-10-21 Thread pastormg2

Been trying to decode PSK 31 the past 2 nights with no success.  I received my 
K3 2 days ago and I've set the mode to Data plus pushed the decode button on 
the right and selected PSK 31.  But for some reason when I go to the 14,070 on 
20 meters it will not decode the PSK.  Perhaps there is a fine tune that needs 
to be activated so that I can do this.  I have no problem on CW, but PSK 31 is 
a challenge.  Any suggestions?  Thanks!!  Mark KB3Z
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[Elecraft] DXLab Commander K3 user-defined controls sliders

2010-10-21 Thread Jim McDonald
I uploaded my DXLab Commander user-defined controls and sliders (just AF and
RF gain so far) for the K3 to the DXLab Yahoo Files folder:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlab/files/Command%20Sequences%20%26%20Slider
s/Elecraft/ .

Though the K3 has the capability of using front panel keys for macros, the
DXLab Commander rig control program sequences (macros) can be longer and
don't use the radio's buttons.

I am using those I uploaded though they can serve as examples that can be
adapted to other applications.  One simply switches VOX on and off instead
of using the press and hold key on the radio.  Another mutes the AF gain.

I have two more complicated ones that switch between a front-panel mic and a
rear-panel mic, changing the TX EQ, mic gain, compression, and VOX gain.  In
my files, the rear-panel mic is a Heil HC-4, and the two front panel mics
are my old Shure 444D and a Heil PR-781 set up for non-pileup use
(ragchewing but not ESSB).  The settings I'm using are for my voice, so
you'd need to adjust them for your preferences.

I used the help documentation at
http://www.dxlabsuite.com/commander/Help/CommandSequences.htm , 
the K3 Programmer's Reference Manual, and the K3 Utility Program help file
to understand how to set them up.  Since I'm posting this to two reflectors,
the DXLab Suite site is http://www.dxlabsuite.com/.

You can simply download the files into the Commander\Sequences or
Commander\Sliders folder and load them, editing them to customize them for
your use.  You have to check the box in the Commander Configuration General
panel to Show user-defined controls panel.

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[Elecraft] [K2] length of control cables between K2 and KAT100/KPA100

2010-10-21 Thread John Shadle
I'm almost done with the construction of my K2 twins (K2,
KAT100/KPA100) and am about to construct the control cable for the K2
-- KAT100/KPA100 -- PC.

The instructions from the KIO2 state that the length of the cable can
be up to 15' (the total length included in the kit), but the KAT100
manual states that it should be 2' (between the K2 and the KAT100).
The KAT100 instructions also state that A longer cable can also be
used, but it will have to be tested to ensure that is is not subject
to RF interference. Other conflicting information comes from the KIO2
manual (first page) which states that RS-232 interfaces are often
significant sources of RFI but that the KIO2's serial interface
provides an HF crystal oscillator (operating well outside of any ham
band) to generate the negative driver voltage.

So, which is it? ;-)

I understand that the cable can pick up stray RF (I'm guessing that's
why the KAT100 instructions state to make the cable as short as
needed). Are the cables sufficiently shielded, or not? Should I
consider purchasing other 4 conductor cables to replace the ones in
these kits?

As I sidenote, if anyone has information about using USB to serial
converters for K2 rig control, please reply with that as well. I'm
about to go searching through the archives now on that subject...

Thanks
-john W4PAH
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[Elecraft] [K2] WANTED: side panels for K2 or EC2

2010-10-21 Thread John Shadle
If you have an extra pair laying around, I'd be interested in taking
them off of your hands.

I'm pretty sure that Elecraft doesn't sell these individually...

Please reply directly.

Thanks!
-john W4PAH
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Re: [Elecraft] PSK-31 Decoding

2010-10-21 Thread Greg - AB7R
Two things to check Mark.

1.  Is CWT on?  It needs to be on and the threshold set so that you see the 
marker 
centered in the tuning area.

2.  If you have Decode and CWT on maybe you have the alternate DISP on 
(current, 
voltage, temp...etc).  Try tapping DISP to go back to the normal VFO B display.


-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065


On Thu Oct 21  6:29 , pastor...@verizon.net sent:


Been trying to decode PSK 31 the past 2 nights with no success.  I received my 
K3 
2 days ago and I've set the mode to Data plus pushed the decode button on the 
right 
and selected PSK 31.  But for some reason when I go to the 14,070 on 20 meters 
it 
will not decode the PSK.  Perhaps there is a fine tune that needs to be 
activated 
so that I can do this.  I have no problem on CW, but PSK 31 is a challenge.  
Any 
suggestions?  Thanks!!  Mark KB3Z
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Re: [Elecraft] DXLab Commander K3 user-defined controls sliders

2010-10-21 Thread Greg - AB7R
Hi Jim.  I've been using DXLabs as my main logging program with the K3 for some 
time now.  For me, it is 
the best and most flexible availablemainly for the rig control capabilities 
that you mention.  But 
also for the Elecraft type support that Dave provides.  He is very fast to 
respond to questions and is 
always a huge help if needed.

I do use N1MM for contesting and then I just import those QSOs into DXLabs.  I 
also take advantage of the 
Launcher that allows you to start programs along with user definable delays 
before any of the suites 
modules load.  I use this for LPBridge, SO2RBox program, SkimmerServer...etc.  
The only thing I have not 
been able to get it to start correctly is Wintelnet.  It will Start the program 
OK but in the short cut I 
have it launch the ini file using -start.  But I cannot get the launcher to 
start that.  Everything else 
runs fine.


-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065


On Thu Oct 21  6:34 , Jim McDonald  sent:

I uploaded my DXLab Commander user-defined controls and sliders (just AF and
RF gain so far) for the K3 to the DXLab Yahoo Files folder:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlab/files/Command%20Sequences%20%26%20Slider
s/Elecraft/ .

Though the K3 has the capability of using front panel keys for macros, the
DXLab Commander rig control program sequences (macros) can be longer and
don't use the radio's buttons.

I am using those I uploaded though they can serve as examples that can be
adapted to other applications.  One simply switches VOX on and off instead
of using the press and hold key on the radio.  Another mutes the AF gain.

I have two more complicated ones that switch between a front-panel mic and a
rear-panel mic, changing the TX EQ, mic gain, compression, and VOX gain.  In
my files, the rear-panel mic is a Heil HC-4, and the two front panel mics
are my old Shure 444D and a Heil PR-781 set up for non-pileup use
(ragchewing but not ESSB).  The settings I'm using are for my voice, so
you'd need to adjust them for your preferences.

I used the help documentation at
http://www.dxlabsuite.com/commander/Help/CommandSequences.htm , 
the K3 Programmer's Reference Manual, and the K3 Utility Program help file
to understand how to set them up.  Since I'm posting this to two reflectors,
the DXLab Suite site is http://www.dxlabsuite.com/.

You can simply download the files into the Commander\Sequences or
Commander\Sliders folder and load them, editing them to customize them for
your use.  You have to check the box in the Commander Configuration General
panel to Show user-defined controls panel.

Jim N7US



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC dead spot

2010-10-21 Thread Mike
Don,

I have 1.3.10.15, and in fact had done a calibration using the XG2 with it. 
Still 
waiting to hear why Dale recommended factory defaults. He should be getting to 
the 
office soon.

I assume (yeah I know) when using the XG2, it doesn't matter which of the 3 
freqs I 
use.

73, Mike NF4L

On 10/21/2010 9:18 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
  Mike,

 Recently a bug was found with the RF Gain Calibration routine in K3 Utility 
 did not 
 properly save the new data.
 If you were not using the very latest K3 Utility, that would explain many 
 anomalies.  Moral - download the latest K3 Utility and try again.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 10/21/2010 8:53 AM, Mike wrote:
 I understand that the knob labeled RF doesn't really control RF gain, but 
 since
 Elecraft labeled it that way, I think it's better to reference it that way.

 I have an XG2, and had done the RF gain calibration using it. Dale 
 recommended doing
 it using the factory defaults. I'm waiting to hear back from him why.

 It's a kit, just a tad over a year old, with all available mods.

 The mechanism by which the tables may get hosed is the same principle which 
 makes
 them work. HPFM. (HocusPocusFreakyMagic) :-D .




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Re: [Elecraft] PSK-31 Decoding

2010-10-21 Thread Lyle Johnson

 Two things to check Mark.

 1.  Is CWT on?  It needs to be on and the threshold set so that you see the 
 marker
 centered in the tuning area.

 2.  If you have Decode and CWT on maybe you have the alternate DISP on 
 (current,
 voltage, temp...etc).  Try tapping DISP to go back to the normal VFO B 
 display.

You also need to sharpen the WIDTH so that you are only hearing *one* 
PSK signal, and it needs to be centered on the CWT -- a couple of taps 
of SPOT will usually do this once you have it in the CWT range.  On a 
busy band, I often use WIDTH of 50 Hz.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] length of control cables between K2 and KAT100/KPA100

2010-10-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 10/21/2010 6:36 AM, John Shadle wrote:
 Other conflicting information comes from the KIO2
 manual (first page) which states that RS-232 interfaces are often
 significant sources of RFI but that the KIO2's serial interface
 provides an HF crystal oscillator (operating well outside of any ham
 band) to generate the negative driver voltage.

I don't know what kind of cable is currently shipped with the K2, but 
most shipped with a very poor choice -- parallel wires inside a 
foil/drain shield. I experienced severe RFI that I traced to that cable, 
and experimented with several types of twisted pair cables and noted 
their effects. Parallel wires are WELL known to pick up RF and noise, 
and twisted pair is very well known to reject it.

I evaluated twisted pair cables that were shielded and unshielded. 
Shielding is important ONLY if the rig will be very close to a TX 
antenna running high power above 20 MHz. By high power I mean an amp in 
the 500 watt range or higher. By close, I mean within 5-10 ft.  The 
cable that is likely to pick up RF is the one that runs between the K2 
and the computer.

The details of the serial cable I recommend is in
http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf   and in
http://audiosystemsgroup.com/HamInterfacing.pdf

73, Jim Brown K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] PSK-31 Decoding

2010-10-21 Thread Rick Prather
If you have it set to PSK D  Text Decode ON with a threshold of 3 or 4 or so 
and then get near a signal I find Auto Spot does a good job of tuning it in.

Rick
K6LE

On 10/21/2010, at 6:29 , pastor...@verizon.net wrote:

 
 Been trying to decode PSK 31 the past 2 nights with no success.  I received 
 my K3 2 days ago and I've set the mode to Data plus pushed the decode button 
 on the right and selected PSK 31.  But for some reason when I go to the 
 14,070 on 20 meters it will not decode the PSK.  Perhaps there is a fine tune 
 that needs to be activated so that I can do this.  I have no problem on CW, 
 but PSK 31 is a challenge.  Any suggestions?  Thanks!!  Mark KB3Z

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[Elecraft] RF Gain Factory Defaults

2010-10-21 Thread Raymond METZGER
 This issue has been resolved with the latest version of the K3 Utility
(1.3.10.11).

Norm,

The latest version of the K3 utility is 1.3.10.15

73 de Raymond, F4FNT
K2/100 # 5,636, K3/100 # 0615




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[Elecraft] K3 Sub RF gain

2010-10-21 Thread Mike Scott
I have noticed a difference in behavior of K3 main and sub receiver RF gain
behavior. 

 

Listening to a strong signal over S9 on the main Rx as I turn down the RF
gain the signal disappears around the 11:30 position. On the sub receiver
the signal is still fully copyable with the RF gain full counter clockwise.
12 O'clock on the main is like full CCW on the sub Rx. Both appear full gain
at the full CW position. I am operating in diversity at the moment on 40M
with ATT in and preamp off, I checked both Receivers show the same. I am
listening to both Rx using 2.7 KHz filters.

 

I have performed the K3 gain calibration procedure using an XG2. I am using
what I think is the latest utility version 1.3.10.15. 

Is it possible that others see this behavior and do you find it normal?

 

AE6WA

Mike Scott

Tarzana CA

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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] WANTED: side panels for K2 or EC2

2010-10-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
  John,

Yes, you can get them from Elecraft.  Look up the part number in your K2 
manual.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/21/2010 9:48 AM, John Shadle wrote:
 If you have an extra pair laying around, I'd be interested in taking
 them off of your hands.

 I'm pretty sure that Elecraft doesn't sell these individually...

 Please reply directly.

 Thanks!
 -john W4PAH
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] length of control cables between K2 and KAT100/KPA100

2010-10-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
  John,

The cable between the K2 and the computer uses different pins than the 
cable between the K2 and the externally mounted twins - so the 
conditions are different for each.
The 2 RS-232 signals between the K2 and the computer *should* have good 
noise immunity if the receivers are properly designed.  But I know many 
PC based designs take liberty with the switching levels of the RS-232 
standard.  They can get away with that because most PC based serial port 
operations are over relatively short cables.  Industrial RS-232 
applications can drive several hundred feet of cable with no problems 
(using good quality cable) and you will find closer adherence to the 
standard.

If you can possibly use a standard serial port, I would highly recommend 
that, but if you are stuck with a laptop, you will not have any option 
other than to use a USB to serial converter.  Since you may have other 
devices in your ham station that need serial connections, consider an 
Edgeport 4 port (look on auction sites), but if you want an inexpensive 
single port converter, the ones with an FTDI chipset are being 
recommended at the moment.

Between the K2 and KPA100/KAT100, the critical signal is the AUXBUS 
which may have timing issues with longer lengths as well as possible RF 
pickup problems if your antenna is close to the operating position, or 
you have RF-in-the-shack problems.  The 8R, VRFDET and 12CTRL signals 
are not likely to have problems since they are essentially DC signals.

Jim Brown's suggestions regarding the cable to the computer are good, 
and I have not experienced any problems with the other cable, so I 
cannot say just how far you can go with it and still have reliable 
operation.  I do not recall anyone having problems with a 2 foot cable 
between the K2 and the twins.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/21/2010 9:36 AM, John Shadle wrote:
 I'm almost done with the construction of my K2 twins (K2,
 KAT100/KPA100) and am about to construct the control cable for the K2
 --  KAT100/KPA100 --  PC.

 The instructions from the KIO2 state that the length of the cable can
 be up to 15' (the total length included in the kit), but the KAT100
 manual states that it should be 2' (between the K2 and the KAT100).
 The KAT100 instructions also state that A longer cable can also be
 used, but it will have to be tested to ensure that is is not subject
 to RF interference. Other conflicting information comes from the KIO2
 manual (first page) which states that RS-232 interfaces are often
 significant sources of RFI but that the KIO2's serial interface
 provides an HF crystal oscillator (operating well outside of any ham
 band) to generate the negative driver voltage.

 So, which is it? ;-)

 I understand that the cable can pick up stray RF (I'm guessing that's
 why the KAT100 instructions state to make the cable as short as
 needed). Are the cables sufficiently shielded, or not? Should I
 consider purchasing other 4 conductor cables to replace the ones in
 these kits?

 As I sidenote, if anyone has information about using USB to serial
 converters for K2 rig control, please reply with that as well. I'm
 about to go searching through the archives now on that subject...

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 S/N 7012 lives!

2010-10-21 Thread James Sarte
Congratulations Al!  I've always wanted to build a K2 but I don't think I'll
ever have the time to complete it.  Anyway, I do agree with you.  Elecraft
support is the best in the industry.  I haven't come across another amateur
radio company that supports their customers the way Elecraft does.

73 de James K2QI

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Alan Davenport w2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 K2 S/N 7012 lives!

 I just finished assembly and testing of my K2 and it is working 100%.

 snip

 73 de Al, W2GZN.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC dead spot

2010-10-21 Thread Chuck Shefflette

Guy,

Actually, the RF gain control does have an affect on the analog, as does the
AGC. There are 2 types of AGC in the K3, the first is the more obvious that
is controlled by the AGC Slow/Fast/Off and the second is a hardware AGC that
protects the A/D converters. The normal AGC is summed with the hardware
AGC to control the gain of the IF amplifier that immediately precedes the
2nd mixer stage. The normal AGC is also more than likely used in some of
the DSP calculations but that is a little less obvious to the outside
observer.

The Pre and Att controls, on the other hand, have real effects on the
electronics. The Pre is used to switch the PIN diodes that control the
signal path through our around the 11 dB RF Pre-amplifer stage. The Att
switches relay K10 which physically switches in and out a 10 dB attenuator
circuit.

Granted, all these controls result from switch presses (the Att/Pre) or the
A/D results of the RF gain pot that are decoded by the MCU and transmitted
to the appropriate control circuits, but they do really have an affect on
the radio's operation, not just in the software.

However, you are right when you say this isn't a traditional analog radio,
at least beyond the 2nd IF stage!

73,
Chuck, AA3CS
K3 #s 4072  4407


Guy, K2AV wrote:
 
 The thing to note here, this ain't your daddy's analog radio, the only
 actual stage gain adjustments you have are ATT and PRE.  The rest is
 all in the numbers, as the front panel knobs are just numerical advice
 to the firmware.  They don't directly control anything.
 
 ...
 

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73 - Chuck, AA3CS
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[Elecraft] P3 RS232 cable

2010-10-21 Thread Raymond METZGER
Hi Elecrafters,

To connect my K3 with my laptop I always use the specific cable shipped with
my KAT100 and which has to be used to connect the K2/100 to the KAT100 and
to the PC. This cable is not a real RS232 cable and a real RS232 cable
cannot be used to connect the KAT100.
Does something prevent using this specific KAT100 cable to connect the P3 to
the PC ?
Thanks for this clarification.

73 de Raymond, F4FNT
K2/100 #5,636 - K3/100 #0615




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Re: [Elecraft] K2 S/N 7012 lives!

2010-10-21 Thread Alan Davenport




On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Alan Davenport w2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The thing
 is, the K2 is so nice I don't know if I can bring myself to take it outside 
 on 
a
 hike!

For some reason, I sense a KX-1 in your future.

Mark  AD5SS

Or a K1. Thing is though 95% of my QRP portable ops are CW, I still like to 
come 
up on the HF pack freqs on occasion or on 10M SSB when the band is open. Come 
on 
sun spots!

73 de Al, W2GZN


  
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[Elecraft] K# utility 1.3.9.2 for Linux doesn't send macro commands correctly

2010-10-21 Thread Nate Bargmann
Hi all.

Being primarily a Linux hand I'm glad to see Elecraft giving us support.
On a tip from another K3 owner I decided to try my hand at setting a
couple of macros on my K3.  I used the Linux K3 Utility 1.3.9.2 and all
seemed to be in order except that the macros did not work although the
labels showed correctly.  Reading the macros back from the K3 revealed
that all but the last two characters of each command had been truncated
(in this case PC005; was truncated to 5; and PC100; was truncated to
0;).  Issuing the commands manually from the command entry box provided
the results expected as did clicking the modified macro buttons in the
Utility.

So, I fired up the spare Win2k machine and used utility 1.3.10.15 to
read the K3 and it showed the truncated strings as expected.  Editing
the commands and sending them to the K3 and reprogramming the buttons
resulted in expected behavior from the buttons.

As I presume this is a bug in the Linux utility, is an update planned in
the near future?  Is there a need for another Linux field tester?  :-D

73, de Nate 

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 S/N 7012 lives!

2010-10-21 Thread Alan Davenport
 I had not built a kit of any size
 for nearly 30 years when I built a Heathkit stereo. One of my first thoughts
 upon opening the box was what have I got myself into!?

Boy, do I hear that!  It had been 20 years for me, so I started out
with a DL1 just to remember how to use my nice soldering station.  On
the K1 you build the 4 band filter board first, and I thought that
took forever until I started on the RF board.  At one point, after
installing 60 components, I realized the board was still basically
empty!

Certainly true. When I was sorting the capacitors I filled up and entire egg 
carrier (of the kind used for camping trips) and still had caps left over! When 
I reached the page where you have to install a large amount of caps I felt I 
would never be done. I just took it slow and steady but it felt like I had a 
bottomless supply of caps that kept replenishing themselves!

I would take breaks occasionally to build a mini-module so that I
could actually finish something. They have come in extremely handy in
the year since.

This contest season a club member has loaned me a full coverage radio,
which I will need.  So it's time for some K1 modifications!  I want to
put in the K6XX CW tuning indicator and am considering trying to
interface a Z1 buffer to interface with a softrock for panadapter
use.

I don't think I will be putting any mods in for a time. Someday I am sure but 
once it is done (I have ATU and SSB boards to finish) I think I will just USE 
it 
for a while before risking another calamity!

 I bought the radio for QRP backpacking. I have been using an FT-817. The
 thing is, the K2 is so nice I don't know if I can bring myself to take it
 outside on a hike!

Definitely take it on a hike!  You will like it even better, I'm certain.

Oh I will. I will just have to come up with a good way of protecting it when it 
is in my pack. 


73 de Al, W2GZN



  
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[Elecraft] OT: aluminum oxide

2010-10-21 Thread 2Cents
Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry about freeing seized antenna
parts.  I received many good ideas and in response to someone who asked that
I post a summary, here it is:

Put stainless steel hose clamps on both pieces as a place to fasten your
pipe wrenches--they grip better than plain aluminum.
Use ammonia to dissolve the AlOx--it's what bicycle repair use to free stuck
seat shafts.
Use heat on the outside piece and cold on the inner--one mentioned using dry
ice which seems to be a very good idea; that's about as cold as you can get
practically.
Use ratchet straps (or some other means) on both ends to put tension on the
joint, then use a combination of heat/cold, twisting, tapping to loosen the
parts.
It may require cutting slots along the swaged area to relieve some tension
and allow better chemical penetration.

Some mentioned using penetrating oils like XP Blaster or Kroil but others
felt they were of limited or no use when dealing with alox, especially on
large joints.
Soaking the joint isn't practical in my case, since the joint is in the
middle of a 3 diameter 32' long boom.

So far, I'm just trying to get ammonia into the joint, but it's pretty
tight.  Next step is to put lengthwise tension on the boom and try the
heat/cold, twist combination.
I just hope my next question isn't how you splice a boom after cutting it in
two with a hacksaw!
 Thanks again,
Chuck Teague
NN7U

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[Elecraft] K3 RF Power Calibration

2010-10-21 Thread Gordon Calder
After replacing my K3 DSP board with the upgraded version, I found that my watt 
meter calibrations
were way out of spec.  I redid the low power cal and the K3 now tracks my Bird 
43/HP RF VM / oscilloscope combo
almost perfectly as it did before.
However, no matter what I try, I can't get the HP watt meter in spec.  When I 
do the calibration at 50W, the K3
puts out 100 W when 70W is selected.  I finally ended up calibrating at 100 W, 
but of course everything is way out of 
spec below 90W and WMTR HP is maxed out at 180.
Before the board switch , the K3's power meter tracked my other instruments 
within a few watts.
I've done multiple re-sets and gone back to earlier SW versions but no luck.
K3 S/N 489; 4.12, 1.13, 2.60.  Any suggestions?

By the way, the upgrade improved the audio.  It seems smoother or less harsh 
than before especially
on CW.  Purely subjective!

73

Gord  VE7YU
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[Elecraft] Fwd: cw skimmer with LP PAN and the K3 - making it work right

2010-10-21 Thread eric manning

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500

2010-10-21 Thread Radio Amateur N5GE
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:08:37 -0700, Jim Brown
j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:

I've been in the Davis Mountains of TX for a couple of days.

How in the world did this topic evolve into a rant about stainless
screws?

Tom Childers, N5GE
Licensed since 1976
QCWA Life Member 35102

n...@n5ge.com
http://www.n5ge.com
http://www.swotrc.net

  On 10/19/2010 6:35 AM, James Sarte wrote:
 But, to charge 20 dollars for a bag of screws is a bit beyond me.

Have you ever worked in a business?  Did you work for free?  Most people 
I know want to get paid for working, and you've got to pay benefits and 
taxes.  There also must be a place for them to work, that you must buy 
or rent. Someone must count and pack those screws. Someone must 
inventory them. Someone must order them.  It takes space to store them.  
The package they ship in costs something. Yes, the screws aren't big, 
but the package must be large enough to hold a label and not get lost in 
shipping. You've got to buy that package and inventory it.  Someone must 
take your order and type up a mailing label and a packing list. Someone 
must ship them.

Yes, it's  only a bag of screws. Companies who ignore all of the above 
go out of business pretty quickly.  I want a company that I buy 
something from to be there when I need them.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] mod kits and parts

2010-10-21 Thread Radio Amateur N5GE
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:03:26 -0700, David Gilbert
xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote:

My experience was that during the year I owned my Orion II there were
no firmware updates.




WB1HGA,

Ask the Orion II guys how long they've have to wait between needed 
firmware updates.

Dave   AB7E

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Re: [Elecraft] Mod kits and parts

2010-10-21 Thread Craig WØLV

I AGREE  THESE GUYS ARE GREAT!!!  AND I LOVE WHERE THEY LIVE...
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500

2010-10-21 Thread Rick Dettinger
I think Eric was on vacation.

Rick Dettinger  K7MW



 I've been in the Davis Mountains of TX for a couple of days.

 How in the world did this topic evolve into a rant about stainless
 screws?

 Tom Childers, N5GE
 Licensed since 1976
 QCWA Life Member 35102


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