[Elecraft] New KX3 Owners
Hi All, I'm getting a really big kick out of all the excitement from those lucky enough to already have a KX3 in hand. It's like a bunch of kids in a candy store! Can't blame you! I know how you feel, since all my other Elecraft rigs have pretty low serial numbers, except for back-up K2, which is a much later model. Even though I'm fairly high up on the KX3 order time line, it looks like my KX3 is going to have a pretty high serial number. That's O.K. though, providing you early owners are diligent enough to report any early production glitches! I'm not sure there will be that many, but be diligent nevertheless! I'm kind of curious as to how many KX3 owners are also first time Elecraft owners. Seems like, based on some of the conversation, it's a fairly high number. I don't know exactly what to attribute that to, but I suspect more than a little of it is due to the success of the K3. Seems like a lot of folks are viewing the KX3 as a poor man's K3, and perhaps rightfully so. The unique versatility of the KX3 has also drawn a lot of attention from those who previously thought rigs like the FT-817 and IC-703 best suited their preferences. It isn't going to take them long to realize they got a whole bunch more than just a new and improved portable radio! I honestly think this radio is going to mark the beginning of a whole new way of thinking about size versus capability. There are already rumors about a KX3 look-alike from China. Ten-Tec has a new QRP radio in the works, and a small amp as well. I've even worked someone with a prototype. Isn't it interesting how many manufacturers are following the lead from Elecraft! Look what happened with the down conversion architecture. Ten-Tec may have actually initiated it with the Orion, but Elecraft really went a lot further in trying to perfect it, and made it truly successful--mainly because they support their radios better! I don't minimize the fact that some other manufacturers are rolling out some very nice products, but I know I'm having a bunch more fun just watching the Elecraft line progress. This is where most of the real innovation seems to be occurring. Stated differently, other manufacturers seem to be in a mode of mainly upscaling their products--adding features to make their next model somewhat more attractive. Elecraft, on the other hand, seems more innovative. I think I know why that is, at least to some extent. The designer/engineers and Yaecomwood sit around and think about how to add fins, or a bigger engine, like Chrysler--maybe throw in a new twist or two, like a bandscope, and more button versatility. That's good! However, Elecraft folks think about how can we make the radio perform better--even at the top of the scale! That's what led to down conversion, incorporating powerful versatility and upgradeability through firmware enhancement, enhanced DSP capability, etc. It's not about adding more buttons, but instead, adding more technology. That may sound like an overstatement, but I defend it by pointing to the fact that other manufacturers are seemingly adopting the Elecraft approach in many instances--but after the fact! The other big innovation is in SDR stuff, and the comparison is most intriguing. The KX3 is a perfect example of this. It's a total departure from where a lot of folks thought Elecraft was going. There was all this talk about a K4! Surprise! Elecraft looks for niche's in the market, and then fills a perceived void with avengeance. The KPA500 is another example of that. There are a plethora of 1 KW+ amps out there--and darned good ones--but few in the 500-700 watt range. For many, that's more than enough extra oomph, and technically, it covers the best part of the cost/benefit curve. Plus, it opened up new opportunities like offering the KAT500 as a matching accessory. I just think the whole thing is fascinating! Clearly not everyone will agree, not even with my premise, but I think it has merit. Dave W7AQK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Vedr: Why settle for KX3-2M? Why not KX3-2M/70cm?
Wayne, I'm sure that you can pull it out! I'm going to order the 2 m module when it becomes available, but if it will be possible to replace the 2 m module with a 2 m/70 cm module later on, I will be the first in line to do so. 2 m/ 70 cm will add the capability to work satellites with the KX3 and of course add a new band. Martin Storli LA8OKA Oslo, Norway ARCTICPEAK's Radio pages! http://www.arcticpeak.com/radio.htm Fra: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com Til: Martin Storli - LA8OKA arcticp...@yahoo.no Kopi: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sendt: Tirsdag, 1. mai 2012 3.13 Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Why settle for KX3-2M? Why not KX3-2M/70cm? Hi Martin, A 2-m module is difficult enough given how little space is available. We'd like to do other VHF/UHF bands, but I'm not sure if it's possible. It would be fun to try. 73, Wayne N6KR On Apr 30, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Martin Storli - LA8OKA wrote: Why settle for KX3-2M? Why not KX3-2M/70cm? This pretty much says it I think. Why settle for only 2 m, why not also include 70 cm in the KX3-2M? With a 2 m and 70 cm module available the KX-3 will complete replace the FT-817, at least in my travel kit. Best regards, Martin Storli LA8OKA Oslo, Norway ARCTICPEAK's Radio pages! http://www.arcticpeak.com/radio.htm __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] OT: Hearing Aid Advice
Hi Guys Gals, I'm finally overcoming my procrastination (and ego) and am going to be getting some hearing aids. Finally the many explosions that my ears were exposed to, during my military career, from large AA guns (90 120 MM), experimental large ground to ground and ground to air guided missiles, to grenades, mortars and small arms fire, has caught up with me. My ears have deteriorated to where I have difficulty with hearing high frequencies, and therefore understanding many conversations, especially those at a distance. Over the years, I've been very frustrated with all the problems and difficulties that my wife has had, with her high end devices. I realize that improvements are being made almost yearly, and new models are addressing customers' complaints, and also one must be willing to compromise. From my limited research and discussions with audiologists, there are basically two general types, In the ear and behind the ear. From a technical (and personal) standpoint I tend to favor the behind the ear versions, as I allude to the other type like putting a cork in the ear to plug up any outside sounds, and then inject totally artificially amplified sounds. I realize that this is a requirement for some types of hearing loss, however, at this time, mine is not very severe and gives me a choice of types. A very high percent of ham radio operating is listening to and trying to pull out, deep into the noise level, weak signals in the VHF/UHF and microwave bands. This I try to accomplish, somewhat successfully (WAS, VUCC 95+ DXCC on 2M CW), using narrow IF and audio filters. I've always used headphones with large comfortable and effective earmuffs on them. The muffs aid greatly to my concentration in trying to decipher CW signals, that are many dB below the noise. Therein is my need for some advice and suggestions based on experience. I would expect that in this case that in the ear devices might be appropriate as the muffed earphones could not be satisfactorily used, with behind the ear types. Maybe the best approach, in this case, would be to remove the hearing aids and attempt to duplicate the hearing aids' response with the RX EQ adjustments in the K3, and maybe also with an additional response adjustment with an external MFJ 616 Speech Enhancer ? One disadvantage with the behind the ear types, is that they tend to interfere with the wearing of sun and reading glasses, also they are more likely to fall off when engaged in certain recreational activities, that I'm still quite involved in, such as downhill skiing and dirt bike and ATV riding when wearing a helmet. Since wearing of a helmet has built in audio attenuation, the safest approach is probably not to wear the aids during those activities. There some neat options that now exist, especially for behind the ear units. These are such things as wireless remote controls that are Bluetooth and TV adaptable, and an option for rechargeable batteries. You drop the aids into a magnetic coupled charging fixture/box every night. You now have a permanent place to store and dry them, where you know where to find them the next day ! At this time I don't think I can afford ones with all the bells and whistles and would like to stay in the 2k to 3k dollar range/pr, including the remote unit. So please sound off with your recommendations and thoughts. Thanks es 73, Chuck, W7CS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Preliminary Estate Sale Info-K7SVV (SK)
I've been asked by the widow of a ham friend, John McClain, K7SVV, to assist her in disposing of several Elecraft rigs. The information I have at the moment is a bit sketchy, but I will be going over to determine more precise info on all these radios in the next couple of days. In any event, I thought it might be appropriate to give advanced notice in case anyone wanted to get his/her oar in on the sale. What is/will be available is the following: A K1--something in the area of a 13XX serial number. I don't know for sure if it is a 4 bander, but I think it is. A K2--this has the ATU, SSB option, and 160 meter option. It's a QRP version. A K3--this is an early serial number, 100 watt model, with ATU. I need to confirm what filters are included. I'm pretty sure there is no 2nd RX. You can pretty much assume that all of these rigs are near immaculate. John was a retired IBM tech, and an excellent builder. He was also fastidious about taking care of his equipment. All of these items are lightly used, as John was somewhat distracted by other interests, and didn't really operate all that often. In fact, I'd be surprised if any of these rigs have more than 50-100 hours of operation--maybe even less! He loved putting them together, and owning them, but his airtime was pretty minimal. You don't need to contact me yet, unless you are particularly interested, but anyone seriously contemplating any of these radios might want to watch for my follow-up info. I'm pretty certain these would all qualify as a very good find for anyone genuinely interested. Dave W7AQK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fixed audio output missing on the KX3? - and in the K3
Wayne With all the digital modes popping up and audio recording it will be nice if the K3 will have fixed level line output In 2010 there was short email converstation about this subject, but Lyle, KK7P, was then (still) in the consider mode Will you look at this long time wanted feature? Peter PC2A Wayne Burdick schreef: Martin Storli - LA8OKA wrote: It seems that a fixed audio output is missing entirely from the KX3, why? Hi Martin, Our goal was to make the KX3 the smallest, lightest, most portable all- band/all-mode radio ever. We had to draw the line somewhere on features, battery size, number of controls, I/O connectors, etc. Included are features that felt would be used most often in portable settings. Audio-based data modes are a good example: we fully support these modes, but as you pointed out there's the small inconvenience of sharing audio I/O with headphones and speaker. On the other hand, PSK31 and RTTY can also be supported by the KX3 with nothing but the serial port (using ASCII send/receive commands). So we're providing a very usable alternative for the two most popular digital modes. You can use the Terminal function in KX3 Utility, running on PC/Mac/Linux, to do full data communications in CW, RTTY, and PSK31 modes. I don't think we can support digital audio data over our serial port, but if figure out how to do it, I'll let you know. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 7O6T
Got 'em on 15m CW yesterday. What amazing signals they have. John AE5X http://www.ae5x.com/blog __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fixed audio output missing on the KX3? - and in the K3
This may be a really silly impractical idea, but could not the I/Q output socket be selected in setup to be either line audio out or I/Q? 73 Stephen G4SJP On 1 May 2012 10:17, Peter p...@pi4cc.nl wrote: Wayne With all the digital modes popping up and audio recording it will be nice if the K3 will have fixed level line output In 2010 there was short email converstation about this subject, but Lyle, KK7P, was then (still) in the consider mode Will you look at this long time wanted feature? Peter PC2A Wayne Burdick schreef: Martin Storli - LA8OKA wrote: It seems that a fixed audio output is missing entirely from the KX3, why? Hi Martin, Our goal was to make the KX3 the smallest, lightest, most portable all- band/all-mode radio ever. We had to draw the line somewhere on features, battery size, number of controls, I/O connectors, etc. Included are features that felt would be used most often in portable settings. Audio-based data modes are a good example: we fully support these modes, but as you pointed out there's the small inconvenience of sharing audio I/O with headphones and speaker. On the other hand, PSK31 and RTTY can also be supported by the KX3 with nothing but the serial port (using ASCII send/receive commands). So we're providing a very usable alternative for the two most popular digital modes. You can use the Terminal function in KX3 Utility, running on PC/Mac/Linux, to do full data communications in CW, RTTY, and PSK31 modes. I don't think we can support digital audio data over our serial port, but if figure out how to do it, I'll let you know. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hearing Aid Advice
The most important thing is the audiologist. Find a knowledgeable one who is wiling to listen and work with you to meet your individual needs. Find one who is not tied to a single manufacturer. David K0LUM At 1:27 AM -0700 5/1/12, Chuck Smallhouse wrote: Hi Guys Gals, I'm finally overcoming my procrastination (and ego) and am going to be getting some hearing aids. snip So please sound off with your recommendations and thoughts. Thanks es 73, Chuck, W7CS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hearing Aid Advice
David Christ wrote: The most important thing is the audiologist. Find a knowledgeable one who is wiling to listen and work with you to meet your individual needs. Find one who is not tied to a single manufacturer. Most important: find an audiologist who is a techie like yourself, and can actually understand what decibels and DSP mean. From experience, this can save considerable embarrassment :-) -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC turning off.
The latest version of the K3 firmware (4.48) has eased that problem for me and HRD. The problem has been on the todo list for HRD for a long time, hopefully they will fix it before they switch to charging for HRD. 73 John K3TN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-AGC-turning-off-tp7514447p7516533.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 7O6T
Using my trusty K3 with subRX and my P3, I snared 'em on 15CW, then on 17CW and then on 17SSB - now when they show up on RTTY! Two years in the planning - wow! - probably one of the best kept secrets in amateur radio! Art - N4PJ On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Tony Estep estept...@gmail.com wrote: In the Middle Ages, the philosophers debated how many angels could fit in a space equal to the head of a pin. The ham question for our era is, how many dimbulbs can transmit within 1 hz of the DX? Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 7O6T
John Harper AE5X wrote Got 'em on 15m CW yesterday. What amazing signals they have. Nice signal on 80m last evening before sunset. Peaked a true S9+10 on my calibrated K3 meter at exact sunset. Got him at 2353z for #349 on 80m. Now just need BS7 and P5 for everything on 80m...if I should live so long! There was apparently a pirate from EU on 160m from 01-02 UTC. Hopefully the genuine article will come up today. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/7O6T-tp7515825p7516560.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 + SOTA + QRPTTF = A BLAST!
Nicely done 6 minute video by Todd KF7LX operating his KX3 in the QRPTTF/SOTA event Saturday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c0aSDS8tZk 73, Bill W4ZV (using my K2 in the same event) -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-SOTA-QRPTTF-A-BLAST-tp7516599.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hearing Aid Advice
Check out the VA, they have the good stuff and you are eligible if you are veteran. Jim K0XU Sent from my Xoom tablet On May 1, 2012 3:27 AM, Chuck Smallhouse w...@theriver.com wrote: Hi Guys Gals, I'm finally overcoming my procrastination (and ego) and am going to be getting some hearing aids. Finally the many explosions that my ears were exposed to, during my military career, from large AA guns (90 120 MM), experimental large ground to ground and ground to air guided missiles, to grenades, mortars and small arms fire, has caught up with me. My ears have deteriorated to where I have difficulty with hearing high frequencies, and therefore understanding many conversations, especially those at a distance. Over the years, I've been very frustrated with all the problems and difficulties that my wife has had, with her high end devices. I realize that improvements are being made almost yearly, and new models are addressing customers' complaints, and also one must be willing to compromise. From my limited research and discussions with audiologists, there are basically two general types, In the ear and behind the ear. From a technical (and personal) standpoint I tend to favor the behind the ear versions, as I allude to the other type like putting a cork in the ear to plug up any outside sounds, and then inject totally artificially amplified sounds. I realize that this is a requirement for some types of hearing loss, however, at this time, mine is not very severe and gives me a choice of types. A very high percent of ham radio operating is listening to and trying to pull out, deep into the noise level, weak signals in the VHF/UHF and microwave bands. This I try to accomplish, somewhat successfully (WAS, VUCC 95+ DXCC on 2M CW), using narrow IF and audio filters. I've always used headphones with large comfortable and effective earmuffs on them. The muffs aid greatly to my concentration in trying to decipher CW signals, that are many dB below the noise. Therein is my need for some advice and suggestions based on experience. I would expect that in this case that in the ear devices might be appropriate as the muffed earphones could not be satisfactorily used, with behind the ear types. Maybe the best approach, in this case, would be to remove the hearing aids and attempt to duplicate the hearing aids' response with the RX EQ adjustments in the K3, and maybe also with an additional response adjustment with an external MFJ 616 Speech Enhancer ? One disadvantage with the behind the ear types, is that they tend to interfere with the wearing of sun and reading glasses, also they are more likely to fall off when engaged in certain recreational activities, that I'm still quite involved in, such as downhill skiing and dirt bike and ATV riding when wearing a helmet. Since wearing of a helmet has built in audio attenuation, the safest approach is probably not to wear the aids during those activities. There some neat options that now exist, especially for behind the ear units. These are such things as wireless remote controls that are Bluetooth and TV adaptable, and an option for rechargeable batteries. You drop the aids into a magnetic coupled charging fixture/box every night. You now have a permanent place to store and dry them, where you know where to find them the next day ! At this time I don't think I can afford ones with all the bells and whistles and would like to stay in the 2k to 3k dollar range/pr, including the remote unit. So please sound off with your recommendations and thoughts. Thanks es 73, Chuck, W7CS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New KX3 Owners
I am one of the 'new' elecraft owners of the KX3 #0033 to be exact. I am also a newbie to the hobby. What drew me in, was the idea that the rug is perfect for the beginner, yet has all the bell and whistles that one would expect for an HF for the well 'seasoned' ham ;-) Robert a 'kosher' ham Sent from my BlackBerry device -Original Message- From: Dyarnes w7...@cox.net Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 00:01:11 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] New KX3 Owners Hi All, I'm getting a really big kick out of all the excitement from those lucky enough to already have a KX3 in hand. It's like a bunch of kids in a candy store! Can't blame you! I know how you feel, since all my other Elecraft rigs have pretty low serial numbers, except for back-up K2, which is a much later model. Even though I'm fairly high up on the KX3 order time line, it looks like my KX3 is going to have a pretty high serial number. That's O.K. though, providing you early owners are diligent enough to report any early production glitches! I'm not sure there will be that many, but be diligent nevertheless! I'm kind of curious as to how many KX3 owners are also first time Elecraft owners. Seems like, based on some of the conversation, it's a fairly high number. I don't know exactly what to attribute that to, but I suspect more than a little of it is due to the success of the K3. Seems like a lot of folks are viewing the KX3 as a poor man's K3, and perhaps rightfully so. The unique versatility of the KX3 has also drawn a lot of attention from those who previously thought rigs like the FT-817 and IC-703 best suited their preferences. It isn't going to take them long to realize they got a whole bunch more than just a new and improved portable radio! I honestly think this radio is going to mark the beginning of a whole new way of thinking about size versus capability. There are already rumors about a KX3 look-alike from China. Ten-Tec has a new QRP radio in the works, and a small amp as well. I've even worked someone with a prototype. Isn't it interesting how many manufacturers are following the lead from Elecraft! Look what happened with the down conversion architecture. Ten-Tec may have actually initiated it with the Orion, but Elecraft really went a lot further in trying to perfect it, and made it truly successful--mainly because they support their radios better! I don't minimize the fact that some other manufacturers are rolling out some very nice products, but I know I'm having a bunch more fun just watching the Elecraft line progress. This is where most of the real innovation seems to be occurring. Stated differently, other manufacturers seem to be in a mode of mainly upscaling their products--adding features to make their next model somewhat more attractive. Elecraft, on the other hand, seems more innovative. I think I know why that is, at least to some extent. The designer/engineers and Yaecomwood sit around and think about how to add fins, or a bigger engine, like Chrysler--maybe throw in a new twist or two, like a bandscope, and more button versatility. That's good! However, Elecraft folks think about how can we make the radio perform better--even at the top of the scale! That's what led to down conversion, incorporating powerful versatility and upgradeability through firmware enhancement, enhanced DSP capability, etc. It's not about adding more buttons, but instead, adding more technology. That may sound like an overstatement, but I defend it by pointing to the fact that other manufacturers are seemingly adopting the Elecraft approach in many instances--but after the fact! The other big innovation is in SDR stuff, and the comparison is most intriguing. The KX3 is a perfect example of this. It's a total departure from where a lot of folks thought Elecraft was going. There was all this talk about a K4! Surprise! Elecraft looks for niche's in the market, and then fills a perceived void with avengeance. The KPA500 is another example of that. There are a plethora of 1 KW+ amps out there--and darned good ones--but few in the 500-700 watt range. For many, that's more than enough extra oomph, and technically, it covers the best part of the cost/benefit curve. Plus, it opened up new opportunities like offering the KAT500 as a matching accessory. I just think the whole thing is fascinating! Clearly not everyone will agree, not even with my premise, but I think it has merit. Dave W7AQK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home:
Re: [Elecraft] 7O6T
Wow! Great effort Bill. Assuming everything goes properly, 7O6T will make #338 (330 for Honor Roll purposes). I'm barely over 200 on 80! Always lived on a small, city-sized lot and never had much except a dipole, Windom, etc. How many times do you eat dinner in front of the radio? LOL! Art - N4PJ On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Bill W4ZV btipp...@alum.mit.edu wrote: John Harper AE5X wrote Got 'em on 15m CW yesterday. What amazing signals they have. Nice signal on 80m last evening before sunset. Peaked a true S9+10 on my calibrated K3 meter at exact sunset. Got him at 2353z for #349 on 80m. Now just need BS7 and P5 for everything on 80m...if I should live so long! There was apparently a pirate from EU on 160m from 01-02 UTC. Hopefully the genuine article will come up today. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/7O6T-tp7515825p7516560.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New KX3 Owners
'...the rug is perfect for the beginner... LOL! Did Elecraft sell you a flying carpet? Didn' t know that was one of the many features! Obviously, there's a typo and it's supposed to be rig not rug, but I couldn't resist. Enjoy! Art - N4PJ On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:52 AM, va3...@gmail.com wrote: I am one of the 'new' elecraft owners of the KX3 #0033 to be exact. I am also a newbie to the hobby. What drew me in, was the idea that the rug is perfect for the beginner, yet has all the bell and whistles that one would expect for an HF for the well 'seasoned' ham ;-) Robert a 'kosher' ham Sent from my BlackBerry device -Original Message- From: Dyarnes w7...@cox.net Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 00:01:11 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] New KX3 Owners Hi All, I'm getting a really big kick out of all the excitement from those lucky enough to already have a KX3 in hand. It's like a bunch of kids in a candy store! Can't blame you! I know how you feel, since all my other Elecraft rigs have pretty low serial numbers, except for back-up K2, which is a much later model. Even though I'm fairly high up on the KX3 order time line, it looks like my KX3 is going to have a pretty high serial number. That's O.K. though, providing you early owners are diligent enough to report any early production glitches! I'm not sure there will be that many, but be diligent nevertheless! I'm kind of curious as to how many KX3 owners are also first time Elecraft owners. Seems like, based on some of the conversation, it's a fairly high number. I don't know exactly what to attribute that to, but I suspect more than a little of it is due to the success of the K3. Seems like a lot of folks are viewing the KX3 as a poor man's K3, and perhaps rightfully so. The unique versatility of the KX3 has also drawn a lot of attention from those who previously thought rigs like the FT-817 and IC-703 best suited their preferences. It isn't going to take them long to realize they got a whole bunch more than just a new and improved portable radio! I honestly think this radio is going to mark the beginning of a whole new way of thinking about size versus capability. There are already rumors about a KX3 look-alike from China. Ten-Tec has a new QRP radio in the works, and a small amp as well. I've even worked someone with a prototype. Isn't it interesting how many manufacturers are following the lead from Elecraft! Look what happened with the down conversion architecture. Ten-Tec may have actually initiated it with the Orion, but Elecraft really went a lot further in trying to perfect it, and made it truly successful--mainly because they support their radios better! I don't minimize the fact that some other manufacturers are rolling out some very nice products, but I know I'm having a bunch more fun just watching the Elecraft line progress. This is where most of the real innovation seems to be occurring. Stated differently, other manufacturers seem to be in a mode of mainly upscaling their products--adding features to make their next model somewhat more attractive. Elecraft, on the other hand, seems more innovative. I think I know why that is, at least to some extent. The designer/engineers and Yaecomwood sit around and think about how to add fins, or a bigger engine, like Chrysler--maybe throw in a new twist or two, like a bandscope, and more button versatility. That's good! However, Elecraft folks think about how can we make the radio perform better--even at the top of the scale! That's what led to down conversion, incorporating powerful versatility and upgradeability through firmware enhancement, enhanced DSP capability, etc. It's not about adding more buttons, but instead, adding more technology. That may sound like an overstatement, but I defend it by pointing to the fact that other manufacturers are seemingly adopting the Elecraft approach in many instances--but after the fact! The other big innovation is in SDR stuff, and the comparison is most intriguing. The KX3 is a perfect example of this. It's a total departure from where a lot of folks thought Elecraft was going. There was all this talk about a K4! Surprise! Elecraft looks for niche's in the market, and then fills a perceived void with avengeance. The KPA500 is another example of that. There are a plethora of 1 KW+ amps out there--and darned good ones--but few in the 500-700 watt range. For many, that's more than enough extra oomph, and technically, it covers the best part of the cost/benefit curve. Plus, it opened up new opportunities like offering the KAT500 as a matching accessory. I just think the whole thing is fascinating! Clearly not everyone will agree, not even with my premise, but I think it has merit. Dave W7AQK __ Elecraft mailing list
Re: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question
Many thanks for all the helpful responses! I do have many toroid cores in stock already but almost all are FT-50-xx and T-50-xx. I'll do the research and the math and give it a try when antenna building season arrives. It's still a little too cold and wet for that at the moment. 73 - Ken From: Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 11:14:33 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question Folks, Given that inductors on toroid cores are used extensively in autotuners, is there any reason (assuming I choose the right size core, made of the correct material for the application and winding it with the right size wire) for not using one as a base loading inductor on a vertical antenna? I'm talking 100 watts maximum transmitter output here. Any down side to doing this? Thanks and 73, Ken Alexander VE3HLS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 utility on OSX
I just downloaded and unzipped the K3 Utility for MAC. When I run it, I get the license agreement and a box that says Initializing, and it hangs there. Can't do anything but quit. I'm a Mac newbie. Does it have to be connected to the rig to work? 73, Mike NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New KX3 Owners
I'm kind of curious as to how many KX3 owners are also first time Elecraft owners. Seems like, based on some of the conversation, it's a fairly high number. I don't know exactly what to attribute that to, but I suspect more than a little of it is due to the success of the K3. Im a new Elecraft owner, at least I will be once my KX3 appears :) I cant speak for others, but the K3 isnt what drew me in. The K3 is an amazing rig, but Ive got a number of very nice HF rigs already and cant justify yet another, but the KX3 has exactly the right features I need for a specific application: portable QRP SSB. Yes, I know QRP SSB isnt as fun as CW, but I do a lot with local Boy Scouts and wanted a portable rig to take camping, toss a wire into a tree, and get on the air. A cool little rig like the KX3 will provide an excellent example of what ham radio is about. CW is fun when you know how to copy it, but its just dots and dashes to the average scout. I cant remember how many times Ive explained SOS consists of dits and dahs, NOT dots and dashes! We camp about once a month, so part of my camping gear will soon consist of a KX3, portable antenna, a gel cell and a solar panel. At last nights meeting one of the scouts said he wants to get his ticket; hopefully getting some of the guys on the air at camp in the middle of the woods will inspire a few more to look at ham radio as a fun hobby. A new ham you work in a couple months might have been fired up by making his first QSO in front of a KX3 near a camp fire. Bob K2UT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 with (Another Brand of) Amplifier?
It is probably not good manners to mention another brand name on the Elecraft list, but is anyone using the Tokyo Hy-Power HL-45B with the K2? It auto couples to the FT-817, but I understand that a connection (assume a bandswitching connection) can be built for it to other rigs. If anyone has done this, how hard was it to do/how did you do it? My K2 is QRP, but I don't need 100 watts. I might desire from time to time, however, to muscle up to 20 or 25 watts to chase something. Tnx for bandwidth es 73/72. -- Jim Stephens, NX8Z Hurricane, West Virginia, USA jim.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Fwd: K2 with (Another Brand of) Amplifier?
This is a thoughtful reply, and I appreciate it. The money differences are not a worry. However, I was thinking of (but didn't include in my message) the K2 100-watt amplifier in an enclosure since I don't want to build it on board the K2. I was looking at $450 for the FL-45B and $480 for the Elecraft amp and enclosure. I guess there could be some other parts I would need? Very happy camper either way, but the FL-45B sits on its own without need of an enclosure. I think I picked up on an answer to the bandswitching question. Does the FL-45B have band buttons on the front panel? I can't find an image big enough to be sure. Just some additional words sold by weight and not by volume. Tnx, Steve et al. Jim -- Forwarded message -- From: Stephen Roberts steve...@shoreham.net Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 with (Another Brand of) Amplifier? To: Jim Stephens jim.n...@gmail.com Well you don't have to use 100W. I would think that the K2100w amp would be the way to go and much cheaper as well. Looks like bandswitching is a simple matter of pushing a button in lieu of auto switching. Steve W1SFR Sudbury, VT On May 1, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Jim Stephens wrote: It is probably not good manners to mention another brand name on the Elecraft list, but is anyone using the Tokyo Hy-Power HL-45B with the K2? It auto couples to the FT-817, but I understand that a connection (assume a bandswitching connection) can be built for it to other rigs. If anyone has done this, how hard was it to do/how did you do it? My K2 is QRP, but I don't need 100 watts. I might desire from time to time, however, to muscle up to 20 or 25 watts to chase something. Tnx for bandwidth es 73/72. -- Jim Stephens, NX8Z Hurricane, West Virginia, USA jim.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Jim Stephens, NX8Z Hurricane, West Virginia, USA jim.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fixed audio output missing on the KX3? - and in the K3
No; these circuits are on different PCBs, and there's no space for cables or switching components. Wayne N6KR On May 1, 2012, at 2:36 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: This may be a really silly impractical idea, but could not the I/Q output socket be selected in setup to be either line audio out or I/Q? 73 Stephen G4SJP On 1 May 2012 10:17, Peter p...@pi4cc.nl wrote: Wayne With all the digital modes popping up and audio recording it will be nice if the K3 will have fixed level line output In 2010 there was short email converstation about this subject, but Lyle, KK7P, was then (still) in the consider mode Will you look at this long time wanted feature? Peter PC2A Wayne Burdick schreef: Martin Storli - LA8OKA wrote: It seems that a fixed audio output is missing entirely from the KX3, why? Hi Martin, Our goal was to make the KX3 the smallest, lightest, most portable all- band/all-mode radio ever. We had to draw the line somewhere on features, battery size, number of controls, I/O connectors, etc. Included are features that felt would be used most often in portable settings. Audio-based data modes are a good example: we fully support these modes, but as you pointed out there's the small inconvenience of sharing audio I/O with headphones and speaker. On the other hand, PSK31 and RTTY can also be supported by the KX3 with nothing but the serial port (using ASCII send/receive commands). So we're providing a very usable alternative for the two most popular digital modes. You can use the Terminal function in KX3 Utility, running on PC/Mac/Linux, to do full data communications in CW, RTTY, and PSK31 modes. I don't think we can support digital audio data over our serial port, but if figure out how to do it, I'll let you know. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Vedr: Why settle for KX3-2M? Why not KX3-2M/70cm?
I do not have my KX3 in-hand to give it a good looking over, but based on photos I am wondering if a clamp-on module could not be added to the back (to fit the same foot-print) and provide sufficient room for a multi-band transceiver, say 144-222-432? I know the XV line covets this range so not out of Elecraft's territory to make such a critter. Then the KX3 will indeed be a contender-succeeder to the FT-817. Anyway just throwing out this as an idea for future projects. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com Kits made by KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] OAK Hill WM-2 QRP Watt Meter for Sale
Very good condition WM-2 10 watts( F/R) QRP watt meter, my build and it is very nice watt meter. Used with my K1. $95 shipped Priority Mail CONUS. n4nab at arrl dot net - r/ John N4NAB -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OAK-Hill-WM-2-QRP-Watt-Meter-for-Sale-tp7517092.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 bandwidth
What bandwidth is the P3 using? 73, Bob - W6OPO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 utility on OSX
No, a connection is not required. The initializing step does take quite a while — on the order of 10 seconds on my development MacPro. Bill, K1GQ On 2012.05.01, at 09:26, Mike wrote: I'm a Mac newbie. Does it have to be connected to the rig to work? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question
MFJ-902 tuner uses a single toroid with taps. The toroid becomes hot on some frequencies with 100W but survives. I guess losses are small compared to convenience of a very small unit. From what I understand, the iron cores can have Q in excess of 300 if they are below saturation. How much will they can handle depends on the load. A reactance of 300 will add a resistance loss of 1 Ohm, and a reactance of 3000 will add 100 Ohm. So the same toroid can handle KW with a longer vertical but could overheat at 100W with a short vertical. Ignacy Fred Townsend wrote Ken: Don't use toroids if you need taps. 73 Fred, AE6QL -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Loading-inductor-Question-tp7513850p7517125.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 Reference Oscillator - Ext locking?
I have the new VHF ApolLO synthesizer board from N5AC (marketed by DEMI) and wondering if I could somehow use it to drive the KX3? What is the main reference oscillator frequency? What level of signal is produced? The ApolLO can be programmed over a range of 78 to 409 MHz so if the KX3 runs at 49 MHz like the K3 one could run 98 MHz and add a divider. This might require special programming of the synth by N5AC but just wondering. This would be an external module (size: 3x4x1/2 inch). One could take this one more step and add a GPS receiver for portable operation. The GPS would provide the accurate reference signal. These are now available with tiny patch antennas integrated. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com Kits made by KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fixed audio output missing on the KX3?
Just wondering out loud on this. Could firmware be added for the KX3 under the data modes to set the audio gain to a fixed value? This would provide the desired levelized audio output with no hardware upgrades or addition. Connecting to the baseband audio has already been addressed in the current design. This does not address transmit audio issues but there seems a couple alternatives for that (mic input or GPIO and only requires an external pot for setting level). I have already offered to come up with an I/F critter for those that want to use computer-based soundcard sw (but told to hold off I bit until more have the radio). 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com Kits made by KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 7O6T
I only had 4 crystals for my novice days and was elated if I made one contact a week (40 or 15 meters). Seems like no generals or higher would wander into the novice bands in those days for me (spring 1961). Your achievement is outstanding! I worked the Yemen group on 17M SSB and am waiting for the on line log to get loaded. I want them on CW but what a pileup on 15/17 and 20M yesterday. They had outstanding signals though! - Roger W5RDW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/7O6T-tp7515825p7517171.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hearing Aid Advice
I will reply to you off the list, Chuck. I've got some 40 years of hearing aid experience, however no need to clutter up everyone's inboxes with a conversation. However, for K3 owners: Jim, K9YC, pointed out to me that I can get close to 30 dB of equalization from the RX equalizer simply by starting the lower freqs, which is where I hear, at -16 dB, and then setting the overall audio level to HI and running the AF gain higher. This theoretically gives me 32 dB of differential equalization. I've done it, it's nowhere near enough for me, but it sure does does help. He also suggested my TX equalization settings and in the few SSB contests I engage in, I never fail to get at least one unsolicited, Really great audio comment. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org On 5/1/2012 1:27 AM, Chuck Smallhouse wrote: I'm finally overcoming my procrastination (and ego) and am going to be getting some hearing aids. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fw: KPXA100 amp for KX-3
For those who do not want to wait for the KXPA100, I will soon offer a 140w amplifier that drives with 5w (runs on 13.8vdc) with 5.5w x 11.5d x 4.5h package - weight unknown but probably 10-12lbs. This will have a 6-band LP filter with optional auto-band select for radios like the K3 or K2. I am still working on the custom LP filter pcb layout. The current version uses relay TR so is not QSK. I may try to make a diode switched TR that can support QSK in the future. This amplifier is offered as a bare kit by Communications Concepts, Inc. (AN762) and can be seen on my kits made by KL7UW webpage (link below). It is identical in layout to my 300w amp (28vdc) I am currently running with my K3/10 at 270w. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com Kits made by KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: K2 with (Another Brand of) Amplifier?
As has been mentioned recently, adding the KPA-100 in a separate EC-2 case is a very effective solution. The close integration between the K2 and the amp is a joy to behold. I use this configuration, but with the KAT-100 automatic tuner as well. You need the KIO2 in the K2 itself if you don't already have it installed. This is a bit of a hit, cost wise, but I think you would be happier in the long run. There are numerous articles available with text and pictures that detail the process, and it is actually even easier to do that those articles would indicate. If you decide to go this way, I can offer some additional tips that will help during the build process. - Jim, KL7CC Jim Stephens wrote: This is a thoughtful reply, and I appreciate it. The money differences are not a worry. However, I was thinking of (but didn't include in my message) the K2 100-watt amplifier in an enclosure since I don't want to build it on board the K2. I was looking at $450 for the FL-45B and $480 for the Elecraft amp and enclosure. I guess there could be some other parts I would need? Very happy camper either way, but the FL-45B sits on its own without need of an enclosure. I think I picked up on an answer to the bandswitching question. Does the FL-45B have band buttons on the front panel? I can't find an image big enough to be sure. Just some additional words sold by weight and not by volume. Tnx, Steve et al. Jim -- Forwarded message -- From: Stephen Roberts steve...@shoreham.net Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 with (Another Brand of) Amplifier? To: Jim Stephens jim.n...@gmail.com Well you don't have to use 100W. I would think that the K2100w amp would be the way to go and much cheaper as well. Looks like bandswitching is a simple matter of pushing a button in lieu of auto switching. Steve W1SFR Sudbury, VT On May 1, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Jim Stephens wrote: It is probably not good manners to mention another brand name on the Elecraft list, but is anyone using the Tokyo Hy-Power HL-45B with the K2? It auto couples to the FT-817, but I understand that a connection (assume a bandswitching connection) can be built for it to other rigs. If anyone has done this, how hard was it to do/how did you do it? My K2 is QRP, but I don't need 100 watts. I might desire from time to time, however, to muscle up to 20 or 25 watts to chase something. Tnx for bandwidth es 73/72. -- Jim Stephens, NX8Z Hurricane, West Virginia, USA jim.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3/100 s/n 6425 is assembled
And fully operational. I have a lot of configuration to do and integration into the station. It is sitting at position 2, next to its cousin, K3/100 s/n 2295. And will be the 6m rig during the upcoming Es season. Jim/N1NK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] The RUG...
This is a wonderful nick name for the KX3 The Rug... I love it. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] question for psk users
There was a question posted about power level and IMD when transmitting PSK31. I recent built a pskmeter kit and checked out my signal. I found that the 5-bar rule of thumb for the K3 is good for up to about 70 watts. IMD remains below -27db. Above 70 watts drive must be reduced. But you shouldn't ever use that kind of power on psk, anyway. I drive my amp with 25 watts, so I just leave it there and run psk barefoot. That's plenty of power. Glen W6GJB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The RUG...
The rig/rug Let's call the whole thing off Robert a 'kosher' ham Sent from my BlackBerry device -Original Message- From: Phil Townsend phi...@mac.com Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 10:23:01 To: Arthur Burkeaburk...@gmail.com Cc: va3...@gmail.com; elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net; Elecraftelecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: The RUG... This is a wonderful nick name for the KX3 The Rug... I love it. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients
Is there any way to stop the tooth rattling turn on and turn off thump from the K3? It can't be good to have a blast of DC go through my external speakers I jump every time this happens. K6CG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KAF2 or KDSP2 for K2?
Well going from a rather ancient Ten Tec to a K2 has been a real treat for sure, and as most of us can't seem to be able to leave anything well enough alone, I was thinking about possible options I can add without breaking the bank. Can any of you folks tell me the real life difference between these two options and whether or not either one of them is worth the expense? I do almost no voice...all cw. Thanks! Steve W1SFR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] question for psk users
On May 1, 2012, at 9:23 AM, GLEN BROWN wrote: Above 70 watts... But you shouldn't ever use that kind of power on psk, anyway. I'm curious why you think this. 73 de Eric, KG6MZS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAF2 or KDSP2 for K2?
Just my opinion having used both, Steve, but if you are primarily a CW operator I think you would be better off with the KAF2. 73 DE David G4DMP In a recent message, Stephen Roberts steve...@shoreham.net writes Well going from a rather ancient Ten Tec to a K2 has been a real treat for sure, and as most of us can't seem to be able to leave anything well enough alone, I was thinking about possible options I can add without breaking the bank. Can any of you folks tell me the real life difference between these two options and whether or not either one of them is worth the expense? I do almost no voice...all cw. -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hearing Aid Advice
Hi Chuck, I have had hearing aids for about 12 years or more. I started with Phonak analogs (BTE) which were great for hearing music (the audiologist fitted a program which further emphasised the high frequencies), then had some Phonak digital (BTE) which were also good, but I did not like them for concerts as much as the old analogs. I have just been fitted with ReSound Alera 7 BTE aids, and the difference is like night and day. I purchased the optional microphone that my much better half can wear or clip to her clothing and I also purchased the TV streamer. Both of these devices use the 2.4 GHz band - a bit like Bluetooth, but is not Bluetooth. The TV streamer can be used with any audio output - including Elecraft radios! The bud which goes in the ear is much smaller than the full in the ear molds that the Phonaks require. The advantage is that for me the build up of wax in the ear is greatly lessened. With the Phonaks, but 3 pm in a working day, the irritation in the ear was just about intolerable, and I would remove the aids and clean the wax from them and from out of my ear. Don't ask me how I did this - you would not want to know. The Alera 7s are so small that people often just do not notice them. The only downside, so far, is that use of the wireless devices chews through the aid batteries fairly quickly. Also I have to ask the XYL to ensure that her necklace can not bang against the microphone, as the noise in the ear approaches the threshold of pain. Another plus is that there is no acoustic feedback howl if I put on earphones while wearing the aids. All the best 73 Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAF2 or KDSP2 for K2?
Steve - situation here was much the same - went from older Ten-Tec to a K2, do CW only, and wrestled with the KAF2 / KDSP2 choice, spent lots of time with KAF2 and some time evaluating KDSP2, even in side by side tests (two rigs). I have some details of the experience which I think are only in email and never made it to the list, so I'll dig those up for you. One is no dramatically better overall than the other; the choice is more about the application. In the end I decided that for the CW op, the KAF2 wins, but for an all-mode op (or SSB/data mode op), it's the KDSP2, which provides some flexibility that the KAF2 doesn't have. I found the KDSP2 to be a little *too* configurable/fiddly, but keep in mind that's because as a CW op I didn't have a need for that much control over sideband cutoffs, bandwidths for data modes, etc... The KAF2 is dead simple in operation and is very effective. I'll dig up my notes and send them your way (or to the list). --Andrew, NV1B .. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Stephen Roberts steve...@shoreham.netwrote: Well going from a rather ancient Ten Tec to a K2 has been a real treat for sure, and as most of us can't seem to be able to leave anything well enough alone, I was thinking about possible options I can add without breaking the bank. Can any of you folks tell me the real life difference between these two options and whether or not either one of them is worth the expense? I do almost no voice...all cw. Thanks! Steve W1SFR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] OT: Hearing Aid Advice
Although Chuck suggested off list replies, I feel this is important enough for the aging ham that I am going to reply here for benefit of any others. I have been wearing hearing aids since 1996. My first pair were made by Resound and in the ear style. I decided on that style partly out of wanting low key appearance. They were the top of the line with programmable equalizing and multiple sound programs. In 2006 I upgraded to Phonak over the ear style on the advice of my audiologist (certified). This provides two mics in each earpiece which provides noise-cancelation from the rear. They have four programs for use in different hearing environments. One is automatic with noise-cancelling, another has anti-echo, and one I use a lot is for music/TV which provides wide-frequency response. It turns out this last program provides the crispest sound for listening to ham radio. I wear the hearing aids from the time I wake till bedtime (exceptions are when working outside with noisy machinery when I wear muffs for hearing protection). I can wear them while wearing over the ear headsets (SONY MDR-V600), though over long duration they get a little uncomfortable. Use of standard telephone is not possible since the mics are behind the ear and standard phone covers the ear so sound does not reach the hearing aid. My unit does have a T-coil pickup but I found it unsatisfactory for hearing well on the phone. I opt to using speaker phones. Interestingly, the cell phone has enough volume so I can use it with half-inch air gap to my ear. Not wearing my hearing aids and using headsets is totally unsatisfactory for me. The radio equalizer is not even close to the 22-channel DSP in my hearing aids. So Chuck, if your headsets have nice soft over the ear muffs they should work fine with OTE hearing aids (which work way better than in-ear - in my opinion). So wear your new aids all the time, even with headphones (as long as they are over the ear muff style). One last recommendation: when you first start wearing your aids the world will get very noisy. Resist the urge to take them out and do without using them. The mind has to adjust to hearing over several days to a couple weeks. The mind is reprogramming itself for the new sounds it is getting. You will be surprised the noises you will hear that before will tolerable. All that sound is processed by your wet ware and it has to re-learn noise reduction to separate the good sounds from the bad noise. If really uncomfortable go back for adjustment with your audiologist. Almost everyone has to do that in the first few days to get it right. Finally, be sure to get annual hearing tests to make adjustments as your hearing continues to change. Hearing aids do not cure hearing loss...they only help it a little. Thanks to all you normal hearing for your patience. 73, Ed - KL7UW Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 01:27:07 -0700 From: Chuck Smallhouse w...@theriver.com Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Hearing Aid Advice To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 20120501012718.cddd5...@dm0225.mta.everyone.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Hi Guys Gals, I'm finally overcoming my procrastination (and ego) and am going to be getting some hearing aids. Finally the many explosions that my ears were exposed to, during my military career, from large AA guns (90 120 MM), experimental large ground to ground and ground to air guided missiles, to grenades, mortars and small arms fire, has caught up with me. My ears have deteriorated to where I have difficulty with hearing high frequencies, and therefore understanding many conversations, especially those at a distance. Over the years, I've been very frustrated with all the problems and difficulties that my wife has had, with her high end devices. I realize that improvements are being made almost yearly, and new models are addressing customers' complaints, and also one must be willing to compromise. From my limited research and discussions with audiologists, there are basically two general types, In the ear and behind the ear. From a technical (and personal) standpoint I tend to favor the behind the ear versions, as I allude to the other type like putting a cork in the ear to plug up any outside sounds, and then inject totally artificially amplified sounds. I realize that this is a requirement for some types of hearing loss, however, at this time, mine is not very severe and gives me a choice of types. A very high percent of ham radio operating is listening to and trying to pull out, deep into the noise level, weak signals in the VHF/UHF and microwave bands. This I try to accomplish, somewhat successfully (WAS, VUCC 95+ DXCC on 2M CW), using narrow IF and audio filters. I've always used headphones with large comfortable and effective earmuffs on them. The muffs aid greatly to my concentration in trying to decipher CW
Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: K2 with (Another Brand of) Amplifier?
I have the separate EC2 KPA100. This allows me to keep my battery configuration in my K2 and use the 100 watt amp to drive QRO in the shack. The integration between the K2 and its various add-on components is very slick, down to being able to set and read the output of the KPA100 from the K2 power knob. The QSK of the combination is crisp, and the K2 switches to driver mode when it senses a powered up KPA100 on the proprietary Elecraft bus. This setup has been so useful, that I might still have it when I've traded my K3 in on a K4 :) 73, Guy On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Jim Wiley jwi...@alaska.net wrote: As has been mentioned recently, adding the KPA-100 in a separate EC-2 case is a very effective solution. The close integration between the K2 and the amp is a joy to behold. I use this configuration, but with the KAT-100 automatic tuner as well. You need the KIO2 in the K2 itself if you don't already have it installed. This is a bit of a hit, cost wise, but I think you would be happier in the long run. There are numerous articles available with text and pictures that detail the process, and it is actually even easier to do that those articles would indicate. If you decide to go this way, I can offer some additional tips that will help during the build process. - Jim, KL7CC Jim Stephens wrote: This is a thoughtful reply, and I appreciate it. The money differences are not a worry. However, I was thinking of (but didn't include in my message) the K2 100-watt amplifier in an enclosure since I don't want to build it on board the K2. I was looking at $450 for the FL-45B and $480 for the Elecraft amp and enclosure. I guess there could be some other parts I would need? Very happy camper either way, but the FL-45B sits on its own without need of an enclosure. I think I picked up on an answer to the bandswitching question. Does the FL-45B have band buttons on the front panel? I can't find an image big enough to be sure. Just some additional words sold by weight and not by volume. Tnx, Steve et al. Jim -- Forwarded message -- From: Stephen Roberts steve...@shoreham.net Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 with (Another Brand of) Amplifier? To: Jim Stephens jim.n...@gmail.com Well you don't have to use 100W. I would think that the K2100w amp would be the way to go and much cheaper as well. Looks like bandswitching is a simple matter of pushing a button in lieu of auto switching. Steve W1SFR Sudbury, VT On May 1, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Jim Stephens wrote: It is probably not good manners to mention another brand name on the Elecraft list, but is anyone using the Tokyo Hy-Power HL-45B with the K2? It auto couples to the FT-817, but I understand that a connection (assume a bandswitching connection) can be built for it to other rigs. If anyone has done this, how hard was it to do/how did you do it? My K2 is QRP, but I don't need 100 watts. I might desire from time to time, however, to muscle up to 20 or 25 watts to chase something. Tnx for bandwidth es 73/72. -- Jim Stephens, NX8Z Hurricane, West Virginia, USA jim.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients
What tooth rattling turn on and turn off thump from the K3? Never heard that myself. I use the K3 power button to turn off and on. Some folks I know turn off the power supply. Maybe that's different? Exactly how do you turn rig on and off? 73, Guy. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Richard Thorpe kis...@me.com wrote: tooth rattling turn on and turn off thump from the K3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAF2 or KDSP2 for K2?
For serious contest use of the K2 on 160, I found that the extra skirt depth afforded by the DSP was extremely useful when running as opposed to search and pounce. On the other hand the easy rolloff of audio off the center frequency was useful. Like some others what I really wanted was BOTH. 73, Guy. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:50 PM, David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.ukwrote: Just my opinion having used both, Steve, but if you are primarily a CW operator I think you would be better off with the KAF2. 73 DE David G4DMP In a recent message, Stephen Roberts steve...@shoreham.net writes Well going from a rather ancient Ten Tec to a K2 has been a real treat for sure, and as most of us can't seem to be able to leave anything well enough alone, I was thinking about possible options I can add without breaking the bank. Can any of you folks tell me the real life difference between these two options and whether or not either one of them is worth the expense? I do almost no voice...all cw. -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAF2 or KDSP2 for K2?
My K2 had the DSP. I programmed the DSP in a way that it tracked the IF filter settings. I had that both in CW (4 settings) and SSB. This way the DSP worked great as a combo with the IF filtering. More or less as in the K3. The DSP auto notch worked reasonable well. Never got the NR configured in a way that it could increase my copy so never used that. Good luck. 73 Arie PA3A __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAF2 or KDSP2 for K2?
And I too have found many applications/times that would be nice to have both.In fact, I have an outboard unit that I am going to make work so I can have two in one... well.. sorta. that takes care of the digi/analog.. now how to do the analog/digi? --... ..--- Dale - WC7S in Wy __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients
My K3 thumps the powered external speakers pretty good when I turn it on/off using the power switch on the front of the rig. Tim On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.netwrote: What tooth rattling turn on and turn off thump from the K3? Never heard that myself. I use the K3 power button to turn off and on. Some folks I know turn off the power supply. Maybe that's different? Exactly how do you turn rig on and off? 73, Guy. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Richard Thorpe kis...@me.com wrote: tooth rattling turn on and turn off thump from the K3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- - Owner, worldwidedx.com AE6LX, Amateur Radio NNN0ITA, Navy MARS NNN0GAF FOUR, Southern CA Director Assistant for Training, Navy MARS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hearing Aid Advice
On 5/1/2012 8:44 AM, Fred Jensen wrote: Jim, K9YC, pointed out to me that I can get close to 30 dB of equalization from the RX equalizer simply by starting the lower freqs, which is where I hear, at -16 dB, and then setting the overall audio level to HI and running the AF gain higher. This theoretically gives me 32 dB of differential equalization. I've done it, it's nowhere near enough for me, but it sure does does help. An additional clarification about why and how this works. Hearing loss tends to vary with frequency from person to person, depending on their noise exposure and various physical conditions that can cause hearing loss. In general, hearing loss tends to be greatest at the higher frequencies. The best hearing aids use very sophisticated DSP to compensate for the frequency response of he loss, and use directional mics. Etymotic Research is one of the major mfrs of the DSP and the mics, and their engineers are members of the Chicago section of the Audio Engineering Society. I know some of them fairly well on a professional basis. The frequencies that carry nearly all of the intelligibility of human speech are between 400 Hz and 5 kHz, and the range between about 700 Hz and 3 kHz is the most critical. From an intelligibility point of view, everything below 400 Hz is noise. Since hearing loss is greatest at higher audio frequencies, we can set the RXEQ in the K3 for maximum suppression of the four lowest bands and maximum boost of the three highest bands. This provides about 32dB of compensation for typical hearing loss. Fred has pretty severe hearing loss, so it's not enough for him, but as he notes, it helps. For many it may be enough. I have moderate hearing loss, and when my wife and I are listening to NPR or watching movies on Netflix, I turn up the highs and turn down the lows to improve or understanding of speech. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 waiting time
Any idea as to wait? I ordered one today. Mike AI4NS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fixed audio output missing on the KX3? - and in the K3
Ok, Its no possible in the KX3. But it IS possible in the K3! Will you please add this feature? Peter Wayne Burdick schreef: No; these circuits are on different PCBs, and there's no space for cables or switching components. Wayne N6KR On May 1, 2012, at 2:36 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: This may be a really silly impractical idea, but could not the I/Q output socket be selected in setup to be either line audio out or I/Q? 73 Stephen G4SJP On 1 May 2012 10:17, Peter p...@pi4cc.nl wrote: Wayne With all the digital modes popping up and audio recording it will be nice if the K3 will have fixed level line output In 2010 there was short email converstation about this subject, but Lyle, KK7P, was then (still) in the consider mode Will you look at this long time wanted feature? Peter PC2A __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients
Hi Richard, Do you have the problem if you only use the internal speaker? Is your firmware up to date? 73, Mike K2MK Richard Thorpe-2 wrote Is there any way to stop the tooth rattling turn on and turn off thump from the K3? It can't be good to have a blast of DC go through my external speakers I jump every time this happens. K6CG -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Turn-on-turn-off-transients-tp7517324p7517747.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fixed audio output missing on the KX3? - and in the K3
On 5/1/2012 6:13 PM, Peter wrote: Ok, Its no possible in the KX3. But it IS possible in the K3! Will you please add this feature? Peter It IS ALREADY in the K3! The audio output from the LINE OUT is a constant output, set by the menu! GL and VY 73, Lance -- Lance Collister, W7GJ (ex WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8, E51SIX, 3D2LR, 5W0GJ) P.O. Box 73 Frenchtown, MT 59834-0073 USA TEL: (406) 626-5728 QTH: DN27ub URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj Windows Messenger: w...@hotmail.com Skype: lanceW7GJ 2m DXCC #11/6m DXCC #815 Interested in 6m EME? Ask me about subscribing to the Magic Band EME email group, or just fill in the request box at the bottom of my web page (above)! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fixed audio output missing on the KX3? - and in the K3
We may add LINE IN/OUT levels to the KX3 so that when you select DATA A or AFSK A data sub-modes, these levels will be used automatically. As with the K3, MIC GAIN would become LINE IN level, and AF GAIN would become LINE OUT level. Wayne On May 1, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Lance Collister, W7GJ wrote: On 5/1/2012 6:13 PM, Peter wrote: Ok, Its no possible in the KX3. But it IS possible in the K3! Will you please add this feature? Peter It IS ALREADY in the K3! The audio output from the LINE OUT is a constant output, set by the menu! GL and VY 73, Lance -- Lance Collister, W7GJ (ex WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8, E51SIX, 3D2LR, 5W0GJ) P.O. Box 73 Frenchtown, MT 59834-0073 USA TEL: (406) 626-5728 QTH: DN27ub URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj Windows Messenger: w...@hotmail.com Skype: lanceW7GJ 2m DXCC #11/6m DXCC #815 Interested in 6m EME? Ask me about subscribing to the Magic Band EME email group, or just fill in the request box at the bottom of my web page (above)! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 waiting time
Based on recent posts to the KX3 Yahoo group on this topic, currently ordered units were anticipated to be shipped in roughly 90 to 120 days. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Mike Short mike.sh...@mchsi.com wrote: Any idea as to wait? I ordered one today. Mike AI4NS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Reference Oscillator - Ext locking?
At present it is not possible to lock the KX3 to an external reference. Wayne N6KR On May 1, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Edward R. Cole wrote: I have the new VHF ApolLO synthesizer board from N5AC (marketed by DEMI) and wondering if I could somehow use it to drive the KX3? What is the main reference oscillator frequency? What level of signal is produced? The ApolLO can be programmed over a range of 78 to 409 MHz so if the KX3 runs at 49 MHz like the K3 one could run 98 MHz and add a divider. This might require special programming of the synth by N5AC but just wondering. This would be an external module (size: 3x4x1/2 inch). One could take this one more step and add a GPS receiver for portable operation. The GPS would provide the accurate reference signal. These are now available with tiny patch antennas integrated. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com Kits made by KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 + SOTA + QRPTTF = A BLAST!
Those goats! That was classic man, made my morning. I gotta stop watching these, I'm getting a KX3 craving. Adrian ... vk4tux -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill W4ZV Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2012 9:21 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + SOTA + QRPTTF = A BLAST! Nicely done 6 minute video by Todd KF7LX operating his KX3 in the QRPTTF/SOTA event Saturday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c0aSDS8tZk 73, Bill W4ZV (using my K2 in the same event) -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-SOTA-QRPTTF-A-BLAST-tp7516599.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fixed audio output missing on the KX3? - and in the K3
That would work nicely. Please do add this. Perhaps also in the Data A or AFSK A modes compression is also turned off? Can always split some of the audio off for background awareness. 73, tom n4zpt On 5/1/2012 3:00 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: We may add LINE IN/OUT levels to the KX3 so that when you select DATA A or AFSK A data sub-modes, these levels will be used automatically. As with the K3, MIC GAIN would become LINE IN level, and AF GAIN would become LINE OUT level. Wayne On May 1, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Lance Collister, W7GJ wrote: On 5/1/2012 6:13 PM, Peter wrote: Ok, Its no possible in the KX3. But it IS possible in the K3! Will you please add this feature? Peter It IS ALREADY in the K3! The audio output from the LINE OUT is a constant output, set by the menu! GL and VY 73, Lance -- Lance Collister, W7GJ (ex WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8, E51SIX, 3D2LR, 5W0GJ) P.O. Box 73 Frenchtown, MT 59834-0073 USA TEL: (406) 626-5728 QTH: DN27ub URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj Windows Messenger: w...@hotmail.com Skype: lanceW7GJ 2m DXCC #11/6m DXCC #815 Interested in 6m EME? Ask me about subscribing to the Magic Band EME email group, or just fill in the request box at the bottom of my web page (above)! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KX3/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KX3/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: kx3-dig...@yahoogroups.com kx3-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: kx3-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] yahoo kx3 site down?
Is the yahoo kx3 site down? Nothing seen since Friday AM. Richard W5SXD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] yahoo kx3 site down?
Sorry. Please ignore previous post. richard allen r...@rcallen.com wrote: (05/01/2012 16:02) Is the yahoo kx3 site down? Nothing seen since Friday AM. Richard W5SXD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 Reference Oscillator - Ext locking?
Hi Ed, I could never understand why folks think its so important for the I.F. radio (flex1500, kx3, whatever) to have a serious need to be locked to a 10 MHz standard. Its the down converter that really matters and using one of n5acs nice little apollo boxes handles that nicely. The I.F. radio is normally within a few hundred Hz and that error does not multiply. It is translated directly to the output frequency by addition of the L.O. so it doesnt matter much. Regards, Richard W5SXD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fixed audio output missing on the KX3? - and in the K3
On May 1, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Tom Azlin N4ZPT wrote: That would work nicely. Please do add this. Perhaps also in the Data A or AFSK A modes compression is also turned off? Yes. Wayne Can always split some of the audio off for background awareness. 73, tom n4zpt On 5/1/2012 3:00 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: We may add LINE IN/OUT levels to the KX3 so that when you select DATA A or AFSK A data sub-modes, these levels will be used automatically. As with the K3, MIC GAIN would become LINE IN level, and AF GAIN would become LINE OUT level. Wayne On May 1, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Lance Collister, W7GJ wrote: On 5/1/2012 6:13 PM, Peter wrote: Ok, Its no possible in the KX3. But it IS possible in the K3! Will you please add this feature? Peter It IS ALREADY in the K3! The audio output from the LINE OUT is a constant output, set by the menu! GL and VY 73, Lance -- Lance Collister, W7GJ (ex WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8, E51SIX, 3D2LR, 5W0GJ) P.O. Box 73 Frenchtown, MT 59834-0073 USA TEL: (406) 626-5728 QTH: DN27ub URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj Windows Messenger: w...@hotmail.com Skype: lanceW7GJ 2m DXCC #11/6m DXCC #815 Interested in 6m EME? Ask me about subscribing to the Magic Band EME email group, or just fill in the request box at the bottom of my web page (above)! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KX3/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KX3/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: kx3-dig...@yahoogroups.com kx3-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: kx3-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients
I have had the same issue as K6CG. There is a thump or spike with the K3 on turn on, I also use powered external speakers, M Audio AV40's. I have a master kill switch that kills the shack with the exception of lights and clock. Turn on of the master switch and having left the accessories on was not the way to go. Some still come on with the big switch but the sequence of Big switch, Astron 13 volt PS, K3 P3, and then the external powered speakers while not fixing the problem effectively buries it. Use the same in reverse at shutdown. Changing the sequence may be a simple solution. 73, Bob K2TK On 5/1/2012 2:31 PM, Mike K2MK wrote: Hi Richard, Do you have the problem if you only use the internal speaker? Is your firmware up to date? 73, Mike K2MK Richard Thorpe-2 wrote Is there any way to stop the tooth rattling turn on and turn off thump from the K3? It can't be good to have a blast of DC go through my external speakers I jump every time this happens. K6CG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Vedr: Vedr: Why settle for KX3-2M? Why not KX3-2M/70cm?
I don't think a clamp-on transverter would be a good idea, one of the ideas behind the KX3 is to make it small, and an clamp-on transsverter would make it bigger. Martin Storli LA8OKA Oslo, Norway ARCTICPEAK's Radio pages! http://www.arcticpeak.com/radio.htm Fra: Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net Til: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sendt: Tirsdag, 1. mai 2012 17.06 Emne: [Elecraft] Vedr: Why settle for KX3-2M? Why not KX3-2M/70cm? I do not have my KX3 in-hand to give it a good looking over, but based on photos I am wondering if a clamp-on module could not be added to the back (to fit the same foot-print) and provide sufficient room for a multi-band transceiver, say 144-222-432? I know the XV line covets this range so not out of Elecraft's territory to make such a critter. Then the KX3 will indeed be a contender-succeeder to the FT-817. Anyway just throwing out this as an idea for future projects. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com Kits made by KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
I'm a bit baffled by the delay. If the parts are indeed available I would expect that Elecraft would be punching out boards/units a hundred at a time by now. My (perhaps incorrect) impression was that that the KX3 was primarily composed of surface mount boards populated by pick-and-place robots and then wave soldered. I would expect that the ATU boards are more effort to assemble due to the toroids, relays and what not. Updating firmware is straightforward and based on the fact that units are actually shipping I have to believe the firmware is in reasonably good shape. While I realize that the spreadsheet is a less than random statistical sample, I expected to see more evidence of a traditional manufacturing hockey-stick ramp by now. Further, it is not at all clear to me that Elecraft will make more money shipping built units versus kits in the near term given the order backlog. If it takes 15 minutes to get a kit ready to ship versus an hour to build and test a unit then there will be four times as much volume at .9 revenue ($900/$1000) per unit in the kit. The ratio will almost always be better than .9 since most of us order upgrades and accessories. Obviously I'm making these productivity numbers up for illustration purposes. The point remains that given the current backlog the kits *could* bring more total profit to Elecraft in the near term. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Kit-Shipping-Schedule-Theory-tp7509170p7518287.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Vedr: Fixed audio output missing on the KX3?
I'm well aware of the fact that the KX3 is a transceiver aimed at the portable market, and that's the reason I have ordered one. But portable, does not only means trail friendly, it also means that the transceiver is suitable to bring with me on air travel, and for me, I will probably use the KX3 more during business trips, than on the trail. When I ordered the KX3, they following items where of high importance: * - Size. (The KX3 have a smaller volume (at least in the spec sheet) than the FT-817) This is very important when traveling. Since I travel a lot in my work, I'm very restricted on space because I usually have a lot of tools, instruments and spare parts with me, not to forget the usual stuff, clothes, toothbrush etc. * - Performance. (The KX3 is supposed to be a high performance transceiver, much better than my current traveling work horses, the FT-817 and the IC-703.) * Wide range antenna tuner. (Very important when I have to use less than ideal antennas in the field and from hotels etc...) * Flexibility. (The KX3 is not as flexible as the FT-817 and IC-703 when it comes to digimodes, but have the potential. The possibility to use a terminal connection for CW, PSK31 and RTTY is a big plus, but is limited to only viewing one signal at the time due to the nature of terminal viewing and limitation of the humans. (I don't think any humans would be able to read multiple signals in a text only terminal window.) The reason that the FT-817 and IC-703 is more flexible when it comes to digimodes is simply that to change from digimode to voice and back, there isn't any need to change any connectors and cables, both the digimode interface and the mic can be attached at the same time, a big advantage when going back and fourth between digimodes and voice. On other items regarding the flexibility, the KX3 shores high, the dual watch isn't possible on any competing portable rigs. The same goes for bandwith selection.) * Current consumption. (When space is limited, power is also limited. The KX3 is promised to have a low receive current, about 1/3 of the FT-817 and IC-703.) A miniDIN connector will not take up much space, actually less space than a mini jack because it's more shallow, so I think it should be space for the connector on the side of the KX3. Regarding the internal data decoder/encoder, I hope you also can be able to include PSK-63 and PSK-125 as these modes are gaining popularity, especial for DX-stations in pile-ups due to the speed. Martin Storli LA8OKA Oslo, Norway ARCTICPEAK's Radio pages! http://www.arcticpeak.com/radio.htm Fra: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com Til: Martin Storli - LA8OKA arcticp...@yahoo.no Kopi: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sendt: Tirsdag, 1. mai 2012 3.27 Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Fixed audio output missing on the KX3? Martin Storli - LA8OKA wrote: It seems that a fixed audio output is missing entirely from the KX3, why? Hi Martin, Our goal was to make the KX3 the smallest, lightest, most portable all-band/all-mode radio ever. We had to draw the line somewhere on features, battery size, number of controls, I/O connectors, etc. Included are features that felt would be used most often in portable settings. Audio-based data modes are a good example: we fully support these modes, but as you pointed out there's the small inconvenience of sharing audio I/O with headphones and speaker. On the other hand, PSK31 and RTTY can also be supported by the KX3 with nothing but the serial port (using ASCII send/receive commands). So we're providing a very usable alternative for the two most popular digital modes. You can use the Terminal function in KX3 Utility, running on PC/Mac/Linux, to do full data communications in CW, RTTY, and PSK31 modes. I don't think we can support digital audio data over our serial port, but if figure out how to do it, I'll let you know. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
Lew, OK, let me say first that that *d**n* spreadsheet is causing more angst and assumptions than anything I have seen before. No need to be baffled, Elecraft is training new people just to get your KX3's out as soon as possible - I have seen many new names in the past few weeks. The more people to assemble KX3s and put kits together means that whatever your position in line, you will get it as soon as possible - the boards for the kits are being aligned and calibrated, so you do not have to go through those procedures when you get your KX3 kit. In addition, the assembly manual was being written and checked out by those doing the assembly of production units. The assembly manual is further being checked out by some of the Field Testers who will disassemble their factory built pre-production KX3s and re-assemble them following the assembly manual. The boards themselves are built by board manufacturing houses there in California, so Elecraft is dealing with fully assembled boards. The board availability is not a problem - but that is only a portion of the whole story. One of the problems is that Elecraft is typically quite open about what is happening. Yes, estimates of when the first units will ship can slip - many other manufacturer's would remain mute about the internal goals and promises, but Elecraft opens much of that information to the world. If you do not understand that a typical product release and ramp up to production levels is fraught with trials and unexpected situations, then yes, you might think that Elecraft has failed on promises. Reality is that those were not promises, but were targets - and due to the openness that is typical of Elecraft were revealed early on, but became not feasible as time marched on. The difference in price for assembled units and kits is *not* what is slowing things down. It is the rate of creating skills in the new people. The firmware is quite fluid - that is not a factor in the speed of shipping. The firmware is downloadable, so you can expect that early firmware updates will be available frequently. I recommend that you keep your KX3 up to date with the latest firmware once you have your rig - it is easy to install with KX3 Utility. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/1/2012 6:11 PM, Lew K7GO wrote: I'm a bit baffled by the delay. If the parts are indeed available I would expect that Elecraft would be punching out boards/units a hundred at a time by now. My (perhaps incorrect) impression was that that the KX3 was primarily composed of surface mount boards populated by pick-and-place robots and then wave soldered. I would expect that the ATU boards are more effort to assemble due to the toroids, relays and what not. Updating firmware is straightforward and based on the fact that units are actually shipping I have to believe the firmware is in reasonably good shape. While I realize that the spreadsheet is a less than random statistical sample, I expected to see more evidence of a traditional manufacturing hockey-stick ramp by now. Further, it is not at all clear to me that Elecraft will make more money shipping built units versus kits in the near term given the order backlog. If it takes 15 minutes to get a kit ready to ship versus an hour to build and test a unit then there will be four times as much volume at .9 revenue ($900/$1000) per unit in the kit. The ratio will almost always be better than .9 since most of us order upgrades and accessories. Obviously I'm making these productivity numbers up for illustration purposes. The point remains that given the current backlog the kits *could* bring more total profit to Elecraft in the near term. -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Vedr: Fixed audio output missing on the KX3?
Martin, A miniDIN connector will not take up much space, actually less space than a mini jack because it's more shallow, so I think it should be space for the connector on the side of the KX3. There is no space inside the KX3 for new connectors. Any additional support for audio-based data modes must be obtained using the existing connectors, along with MCU and DSP firmware changes. Regarding the internal data decoder/encoder, I hope you also can be able to include PSK-63 and PSK-125 as these modes are gaining popularity, especial for DX-stations in pile-ups due to the speed. Both of these should be possible. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
On 5/1/2012 3:43 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Lew, OK, let me say first that that *d**n* spreadsheet is causing more angst and assumptions than anything I have seen before. As does the Mayan Calendar...[sigh]. No matter what any of us might believe, October 2012 [I think that's the month] will be what it will be. No matter what any of us might think [or compute on a spreadsheet, microcomputer, mainframe, or slide rule], Elecraft's shipping schedule will be what they can manage. It is what it is, something I learned a long time ago in war. This isn't war, it's buying a new radio, but the lesson still applies. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAF2 or KDSP2 for K2?
One question I have about the choice between the KAF2 and KDSP2 is what about having neither. How would one describe the receiver/filter capabilities of the bare K2? Thanks. John, kx4o On 5/1/12 1:29 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: For serious contest use of the K2 on 160, I found that the extra skirt depth afforded by the DSP was extremely useful when running as opposed to search and pounce. On the other hand the easy rolloff of audio off the center frequency was useful. Like some others what I really wanted was BOTH. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 and K3 on the list
I am wondering if it would serve these two different rigs well if each had its own reflector? I may be in the minority, but I have no interest in the KX3. I have a K3 and read nearly every entry regarding same. I just skip over the KX3 stuff. That said, it would be easier not to have the KX3 stuff here at all. Bill W2BLC -- IN GOD I TRUST (but, NOT a single politician) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
To quote Don, that (polite expletive deleted) spreadsheet was very likely well intentioned. However... Most people deserve to understand 3 of what I call pseudo statistics. (1) Murphy's Law (anything that *can* go wrong probably will) (2) O'Reilly's Rule - Murphy was an optimist! (3) The rules of unintended consequences - unfortunately far more real than either of the first two. What's going on with the KX3 most likely also went on with the K3 - we didn't know that much about it and the wizards at Elecraft had no need to share it with us. In my working life, I worked pretty much behind the scenes and dealt very little with the public - probably a good thing. The way I would have handled the current situation would have been far less diplomatic than what I've seen from both Wayne and Eric. It'll be here when it gets here! Art - N4PJ On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Lew K7GO elecr...@paceley.com wrote: I'm a bit baffled by the delay. If the parts are indeed available I would expect that Elecraft would be punching out boards/units a hundred at a time by now. My (perhaps incorrect) impression was that that the KX3 was primarily composed of surface mount boards populated by pick-and-place robots and then wave soldered. I would expect that the ATU boards are more effort to assemble due to the toroids, relays and what not. Updating firmware is straightforward and based on the fact that units are actually shipping I have to believe the firmware is in reasonably good shape. While I realize that the spreadsheet is a less than random statistical sample, I expected to see more evidence of a traditional manufacturing hockey-stick ramp by now. Further, it is not at all clear to me that Elecraft will make more money shipping built units versus kits in the near term given the order backlog. If it takes 15 minutes to get a kit ready to ship versus an hour to build and test a unit then there will be four times as much volume at .9 revenue ($900/$1000) per unit in the kit. The ratio will almost always be better than .9 since most of us order upgrades and accessories. Obviously I'm making these productivity numbers up for illustration purposes. The point remains that given the current backlog the kits *could* bring more total profit to Elecraft in the near term. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Kit-Shipping-Schedule-Theory-tp7509170p7518287.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and K3 on the list
Bill, The suggestion for a separate reflector has been suggested before - when the K3 was introduced and prior to that the discussions were about the K1 and K2. The answer was that this is the one Elecraft reflector. Everything is not about the particular rig, but often is more general and deals with various interests. There have been efforts (some successful, some unsuccessful) to encourage posters to add the relevant transceiver in the subject line of their posts - that is helpful, but some forget (or just don't know to do that). I would suggest you use your email client's filtering capability to investigate the subject line, and if the author of the post has been kind, he will have provided you with the sorting capability to keep posts about your particular interests in the proper folder on your PC. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/1/2012 7:52 PM, Bill wrote: I am wondering if it would serve these two different rigs well if each had its own reflector? I may be in the minority, but I have no interest in the KX3. I have a K3 and read nearly every entry regarding same. I just skip over the KX3 stuff. That said, it would be easier not to have the KX3 stuff here at all. Bill W2BLC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: ...as does the Mayan Calendar...[sigh]. No matter what any of us might believe, October 2012 [I think that's the month] will be what it will be === Actually I think it's Dec 21, 2012. The world will end on that day, so the sooner we get our KX3s the more time we'll have before the final QRT. Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAF2 or KDSP2 for K2?
Bluntly, as clever as the CW filter scheme was for both cost and effectiveness, the DSP for me really put the finishing touches on the performance. But that is a contesting analysis. No contesting, maybe I don't care. I have the four CW widths and I have the DSP filters set to exactly match the skirts. A bit of a pain getting that right, but when I'm out working on an antenna somewhere running battery, I don't have an issue that I wish I had my K3 out there for hearing. And when I've got something matched by the auto tuner, I know the network values being used to do it. 73, Guy. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:46 PM, John k...@hamradio.me wrote: One question I have about the choice between the KAF2 and KDSP2 is what about having neither. How would one describe the receiver/filter capabilities of the bare K2? Thanks. John, kx4o On 5/1/12 1:29 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: For serious contest use of the K2 on 160, I found that the extra skirt depth afforded by the DSP was extremely useful when running as opposed to search and pounce. On the other hand the easy rolloff of audio off the center frequency was useful. Like some others what I really wanted was BOTH. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
Whatever the actual date, all those who have ordered their KX3 should have theirs in hand before October 2012 if the shipping delay estimate of 120 days is anywhere near correct. 120 days from today is August 29, 2012. Clearly before the end of the world We will have time to make some contacts on out KX3s. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/1/2012 8:38 PM, Tony Estep wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Fred Jensenk6...@foothill.net wrote: ...as does the Mayan Calendar...[sigh]. No matter what any of us might believe, October 2012 [I think that's the month] will be what it will be === Actually I think it's Dec 21, 2012. The world will end on that day, so the sooner we get our KX3s the more time we'll have before the final QRT. Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
OK, you have not fulfilled my expectations. I was expecting my comments to be controversial, and would be met with much feedback, some of which I would respond to and and others that I would ignore. I did not receive any response, so either my assessment of the end of the world is valid or there is no further information about it. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/1/2012 8:49 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Whatever the actual date, all those who have ordered their KX3 should have theirs in hand before October 2012 if the shipping delay estimate of 120 days is anywhere near correct. 120 days from today is August 29, 2012. Clearly before the end of the world We will have time to make some contacts on out KX3s. 73, Don W3FPR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients
Something seems wrong with your particular set-up. I have a K3/100 + P3, and it makes no audio sounds whatever when turned on or off. There is a slight relay click, but it is not particularly noticeable. John Ragle -- W1ZI = On 5/1/2012 2:31 PM, Mike K2MK wrote: Hi Richard, Do you have the problem if you only use the internal speaker? Is your firmware up to date? 73, Mike K2MK Richard Thorpe-2 wrote Is there any way to stop the tooth rattling turn on and turn off thump from the K3? It can't be good to have a blast of DC go through my external speakers I jump every time this happens. K6CG -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Turn-on-turn-off-transients-tp7517324p7517747.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
Don, My only concern is having mine for Field Day. My group operates QRP. I did order mine on day 2. I expect that with K2s, K3s, and KX3s life on Field Day is going to be a real hoot. Barry K3NDM - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: Tony Estep estept...@gmail.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 8:49:23 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory Whatever the actual date, all those who have ordered their KX3 should have theirs in hand before October 2012 if the shipping delay estimate of 120 days is anywhere near correct. 120 days from today is August 29, 2012. Clearly before the end of the world We will have time to make some contacts on out KX3s. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/1/2012 8:38 PM, Tony Estep wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Fred Jensenk6...@foothill.net wrote: ...as does the Mayan Calendar...[sigh]. No matter what any of us might believe, October 2012 [I think that's the month] will be what it will be === Actually I think it's Dec 21, 2012. The world will end on that day, so the sooner we get our KX3s the more time we'll have before the final QRT. Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAF2 or KDSP2 for K2?
John, The IF filter response of the K2 filter can be quite good by itself, but cascaded filters are better, particularly the DSP straight sided filter responses. To optimize the IF filters, I would encourage all to use Spectrogram (or something equal) and a wideand noise generator ( or atmospheric band noise on a dead band) to determine the actual width and positioning of each filter. See part 3 of the K2 Dial Calibration article on my website www;.w3fpr.com for more information. I would like to point out that most K2 filters are not set for optimum response - the settings in the manual will produce working filters, but certainly not optimum. I have described the process for achieving not only good dial calibration, but also good filter response in the K2 Dial Calibration article on my website www.w3fpr.com. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/1/2012 7:46 PM, John wrote: One question I have about the choice between the KAF2 and KDSP2 is what about having neither. How would one describe the receiver/filter capabilities of the bare K2? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients
My K3 also thumps with power on and off transitions. In my case, I use the SPKRS output to drive either a set of headphones (Yamaha CM-500 or Sony MDR-7650) or the inputs of an old Radio Shack SA-155 amplifier, depending on whether the headphones are plugged into my headphone box. Looking at the schematic, it's no mystery what causes the thump. It's the classic effect of having large value electrolytic coupling capacitors at the output of the audio amp. The increase in value of the coupling caps to extend LF response that was made fairly early in the product cycle would certainly exacerbate this problem. My K3 has the larger caps installed. I wonder if the presence or lack of a transient pulse in individual situations could be a function of the DC resistance (or LF response) of the transducer connected to the audio output. In my case, the load impedance presented to the output of the amplifier is considerably higher than it would be if I used an 8 Ohm speaker. Higher load resistance gives a larger RC time constant, hence a longer and more objectionable pulse. Just a thought... 73... Randy, W8FN Is there any way to stop the tooth rattling turn on and turn off thump from the K3? It can't be good to have a blast of DC go through my external speakers I jump every time this happens. K6CG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] End of the world and the KX3
Don, I thought you would get more comments too. However, apparently it's more important for folks to acquire a hobby radio than face the end of the world. I certainly understand the thrill of getting a new rig. However, as I learned many years ago, this is still a hobby and no matter how anxious one is about the new rig, it's not all that important on the road of life! John Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
Nah, I am just still laughing Don. 73, tom n4zpt On 5/1/2012 9:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: OK, you have not fulfilled my expectations. I was expecting my comments to be controversial, and would be met with much feedback, some of which I would respond to and and others that I would ignore. I did not receive any response, so either my assessment of the end of the world is valid or there is no further information about it. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/1/2012 8:49 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Whatever the actual date, all those who have ordered their KX3 should have theirs in hand before October 2012 if the shipping delay estimate of 120 days is anywhere near correct. 120 days from today is August 29, 2012. Clearly before the end of the world We will have time to make some contacts on out KX3s. 73, Don W3FPR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
Same here. Our QRP Field Day has been dominated by K2s since they were introduced. Someone even brought a K3 last year. My birthday has passed (although I did buy a K3 as a gift to myself) so the next milestone is enough time before Field Day to assemble the KX3 and become familiar with it. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 5/1/2012 6:22 PM, k3...@comcast.net wrote: Don, My only concern is having mine for Field Day. My group operates QRP. I did order mine on day 2. I expect that with K2s, K3s, and KX3s life on Field Day is going to be a real hoot. Barry K3NDM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] End of the world and the KX3
Well, in this case, being more concerned about ham radio and the KX3 is entirely appropriate. Contrary to popular belief, the Mayans did not predict the end of the world. Their calendar, actually one of several they used, predicted essentially the end of an era. Nothing more. Those of us who do not otherwise die of something else, will wake up on December 22, 2012 and go on with life and ham radio as usual. Hollywood and the mass media is largely to blame for stoking the misconception that December 21 2012 was the end of the world. I wish they hadn't. There's been a lot of fear and uncertainty spread unnecessarily as a result. Dave, AH6TD On May 1, 2012, at 3:47 PM, John's email wrote: Don, I thought you would get more comments too. However, apparently it's more important for folks to acquire a hobby radio than face the end of the world. I certainly understand the thrill of getting a new rig. However, as I learned many years ago, this is still a hobby and no matter how anxious one is about the new rig, it's not all that important on the road of life! John Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients
Randy Farmer wrote: My K3 also thumps with power on and off transitions This is an important part of the power-on self-test sequence. It allows you, and others, to verify even at some distance from the radio that your speaker(s), KIO3 interconnections, large electrolytic coupling capacitors, AF amp, DSP, and power supply are all functioning properly. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
I would rather have it right. Give Elecraft the chance to get all of the issues worked out. They are amazingly focused on customer service. I am sure that they are doing all that they can to get the KX3's out as fast as possible. 73 K1NR K2 6xxx KX3 (on the list) On Tue, 01 May 2012 19:03:02 -0700 Jim Lowman jmlow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Same here. Our QRP Field Day has been dominated by K2s since they were introduced. Someone even brought a K3 last year. My birthday has passed (although I did buy a K3 as a gift to myself) so the next milestone is enough time before Field Day to assemble the KX3 and become familiar with it. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 5/1/2012 6:22 PM, k3...@comcast.net wrote: Don, My only concern is having mine for Field Day. My group operates QRP. I did order mine on day 2. I expect that with K2s, K3s, and KX3s life on Field Day is going to be a real hoot. Barry K3NDM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] End of the world and the KX3 [Was: turn on turn off transients]
John's email wrote: ...apparently it's more important for folks to acquire a hobby radio than face the end of the world. I fully expect to hear the K3's (and KX3's) reassuring power-on self- test audio signatures on the morning of December 22nd. W __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
I have it on Mayan authority that the actual end of the world is now expected to be delayed until November 2012. While the Mayan's regret the delay, rest assured that the results will be even more gruesome because of the refined death process. On the up side, I plan on making several hundred extra KX3 QRP contacts during my extra time. 73, Bob, WB4SON __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients
In other words, it's not a bug, it's a feature. :) Rob NV5E From: n...@elecraft.com To: w...@tx.rr.com Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:35:12 -0700 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients Randy Farmer wrote: My K3 also thumps with power on and off transitions This is an important part of the power-on self-test sequence. It allows you, and others, to verify even at some distance from the radio that your speaker(s), KIO3 interconnections, large electrolytic coupling capacitors, AF amp, DSP, and power supply are all functioning properly. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] question for psk users
Eric KG6MZS asked why wouldn't you run more than 70w on PSK Because with the close spacing of signals in the various PSK sub-bands, a signal of more than about 50watts will completely annihilate all the other PSK signals and make that sub-band unusable for everyone else. The rule of thumb for being polite on PSK is to operate 25-30w max. I won't claim that there aren't some who are operating more (you Cuban stations know who you are), but many/most of us will avoid QSOs with people who are obviously running 50w+ 73s Jon, WB2RYV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients
And, that is what I thought the K3 thump feature was all about! On May 1, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Randy Farmer wrote: My K3 also thumps with power on and off transitions This is an important part of the power-on self-test sequence. It allows you, and others, to verify even at some distance from the radio that your speaker(s), KIO3 interconnections, large electrolytic coupling capacitors, AF amp, DSP, and power supply are all functioning properly. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients
Those thumps may be bothersome for those using powered speakers, I am using unpowered speakers and while I hear ag the intensity couple of thumps at turn on and turn off, neither are offensive and bothersome. Perhaps you are increasing with your powered speakers Do your powered speakers run from the same power supply that you K3 is connected to? If so, I would recommend a test made to determine if the computer D and CPU/memory is adequate to run that program, 73, Don W3FPR . 10:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Randy Farmer wrote: My K3 also thumps with power on and off transitions This is an important part of the power-on self-test sequence. It allows you, and others, to verify even at some distance from the radio that your speaker(s), KIO3 interconnections, large electrolytic coupling capacitors, AF amp, DSP, and power supply are all functioning properly. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
Isnt that the purpose of these flea size radios, that you can take it with you?? Merv K9FD/KH6 === Actually I think it's Dec 21, 2012. The world will end on that day, so the sooner we get our KX3s the more time we'll have before the final QRT. Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] End of the world and the KX3
The real truth is that they were working on the Calendar and were invaded by some dudes from across the ocean, they had intended to come back and finish the Calendar but you know the end of that story.. Well, in this case, being more concerned about ham radio and the KX3 is entirely appropriate. Contrary to popular belief, the Mayans did not predict the end of the world. Their calendar, actually one of several they used, predicted essentially the end of an era. Nothing more. Those of us who do not otherwise die of something else, will wake up on December 22, 2012 and go on with life and ham radio as usual. Hollywood and the mass media is largely to blame for stoking the misconception that December 21 2012 was the end of the world. I wish they hadn't. There's been a lot of fear and uncertainty spread unnecessarily as a result. Dave, AH6TD On May 1, 2012, at 3:47 PM, John's email wrote: Don, I thought you would get more comments too. However, apparently it's more important for folks to acquire a hobby radio than face the end of the world. I certainly understand the thrill of getting a new rig. However, as I learned many years ago, this is still a hobby and no matter how anxious one is about the new rig, it's not all that important on the road of life! John Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 18:43 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote: If you do not understand that a typical product release and ramp up to production levels is fraught with trials and unexpected situations, then yes, you might think that Elecraft has failed on promises. Reality is that those were not promises, but were targets - and due to the openness that is typical of Elecraft were revealed early on, but became not feasible as time marched on. I worked in product development for many years at Hewlett Packard (and it's successor Agilent Technologies). HP/Agilent has a reputation for managing the product development process very well, but even there it was rare for a new product to actually ship on the originally scheduled date. Even though they always added some padding to the schedule to allow for unforeseen events, it never seemed to be enough. As Mr. Rumsfeld would put it, you can plan for the expected unexpected events, but not for the unexpected unexpected events. Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
