[Elecraft] KX-3 higher mic gain - perfect

2014-01-24 Thread paulb

Hi folks

Latest firmware for KX-3 now has stacks of mic gain using
cheap and cheerful computer type headsets.

PTT is not used here, all VOX on SSB.
Disable PTT and microphone bias.
Appox 2.5 volts from the PTT line will power the
element ok.

There is very low level audio noise from the PTT supply but
well down on normal speech.

Mic Gain at approx 55.
Processing at 12.
My own preference is roll off the bass so
set 100 200 400 TX filter at -16 and 
800 at -3. 

Very strong audio on SSB.
VOX function is very impressive.

cheers

Paul 
zl1ajy








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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Audio/AGC

2014-01-24 Thread Bill W2BLC
This debate comes up way too often - so I rather think there is an 
inherent problem with the perceived comfort of the receive audio.


First, I am a long-time Kenwood user and am very used to armchair copy - 
as most of my hamming is rag chew on 75 and 40 meters.


To that end, I have spent too much money on speakers and too much time 
trying to get the K3 to sound as good as my TS-480 or a TS-590. That 
said, you can see the current settings I am using on my K3 at:


http://www.w2blc.net/K3.htm

The above captioned settings are not carved in stone and I tweak them 
often. Tweakability is one of the strong features of the K3. You can 
arrange the radio to suit your specific needs and desires - not just 
what some lab-rat decided at the manufacturer.


Bill W2BLC K-Line (?)


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[Elecraft] [K3] KRX3 low on gain

2014-01-24 Thread Phil Daniells

Hello.

For a while now I've had the feeling that my sub-receiver has been a bit 
'quiet', when compared to the main Rx, requiring its AF gain to be 
cranked up to compensate.  However, I'd not really worried too much 
about this as its ability to hear weak signals was not impaired.


Yesterday, I finally got round to measuring the audio levels coming out 
of my K3 and found the following:


1)   The audio output of the KRX3 was -16dB compared with the main Rx 
(AGC inoperative, 5uV from signal generator).


2)   The -16dB disparity was there regardless of which KRX3 antenna 
input was in use.


3)   The problem is neither band nor mode dependant.

4)   The problem occurs with both the 2.7kHz and 400Hz roofing filters.

4)   When listening to a 'real' signal the KRX3 is operating lower down 
the AGC characteristic than the main Rx.


5)   Adjusting the individual filter gains did not do enough to compensate.

The fact that my KRX3 is not 'deaf', but just low on gain, suggests that 
its front-end is OK and that the fault is further down the chain.


The AGC observations, in turn, suggest to me that the gain deficit is 
occurring after the front-end, but before the point at which AGC is 
derived (and not in the audio stages).


I have already removed and re-installed the KRX3 and its leads, but to 
no effect.  Before I resort to a serious stripping-down of the K3, does 
anyone have any experience of a similar fault, please?



73,
de Phil, GJ4CBQ.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 7976

2014-01-24 Thread Jerry
No luck is needed. Just follow the instructions and do what it says. Don't
jump ahead, measure everything and don't assume. You are going to love this
radio!

Best
Jerry, W1IE

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 7976

K3 7976 (kit) has arrived. Time to start building. Wish me luck.

Carl Yaffey  K8NU
Banjo, guitar, bass, mandolin, dobro. 
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[Elecraft] 10 MHz IF for K3 Transverter Operation?

2014-01-24 Thread Michael Mussler
I've seen a couple of old posts concerning the addition of a 10 MHz IF for use 
with the K3 (and KXV3 option). Is this upgrade being worked at Elecraft? I 
operate my K3 using an external 10 MHz frequency reference. The 10 MHz IF 
capability would allow use of the same external 10 MHz reference as the LO for 
a transverter covering the 0 to 500 kHz spectrum. 

-Mike Mussler, AI8Z
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Re: [Elecraft] 10 MHz IF for K3 Transverter Operation?

2014-01-24 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

Not a 10 MHz IF, but provision for a 10 MHz reference INPUT to the K3.
That is the  K3EXREF  External Reference Input for the K3. which allows 
the K3 to lock to an external 10 MHz reference standard.

It is available as a K3 option.

The KXV3 option *does* provide an IF output (at the 8 MHz IF frequency) 
for use with the P3 or other panadapter displays.  That is also an 
option that can be purchased.


Neither is an upgrade - options are add-ons, upgrades are changes to the 
existing hardware.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/24/2014 4:04 PM, Michael Mussler wrote:

I've seen a couple of old posts concerning the addition of a 10 MHz IF for use 
with the K3 (and KXV3 option). Is this upgrade being worked at Elecraft? I 
operate my K3 using an external 10 MHz frequency reference. The 10 MHz IF 
capability would allow use of the same external 10 MHz reference as the LO for 
a transverter covering the 0 to 500 kHz spectrum.

-Mike Mussler, AI8Z
mmuss...@wispertel.net



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[Elecraft] 2 dB better reception in JT65 mode

2014-01-24 Thread PA2V
Hi guys.

 

I have compared my brand new K3 against my IC756pro2 in JT65b mode while
doing EME on 432 MHz.

With the same transverter, antenna, preamp etc. I see stations 2 dB better
with the K3.

It also made me see another station at -30 dB that I could not detect on the
756.

I just wonder, is this because the famous low noise architecture or just the
clean audio of the K3?

The K3 is connected via the line-out to a Delta44 soundcard at the PC.

Audio levels have been carefully checked to be sure I am doing exactly the
same to both rigs.

The RF path 28 MHz  432 MHz  was exactly the same all the time. I switched
with relays between the rigs.

Is there any other K3 owner who did the same test on here?

73, Peter PA2V

 

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[Elecraft] 10 MHz Transverter Band IF for K3

2014-01-24 Thread Michael Mussler
A clarification is in order concerning my earlier post. If not already 
available, I am requesting a K3 firmware revision that adds the selection of a 
10 MHz IF for transverter operation (via the XVn IF CONFIG menu selection). 
In my application this added selection would allow use of the same external 10 
MHz reference signal I use with my K3 for a stable and clean 630m transverter 
LO.
-Mike Mussler AI8Z
mmuss...@wispertel.net

 

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Re: [Elecraft] 2 dB better reception in JT65 mode

2014-01-24 Thread Don Wilhelm

Peter,

I would attribute it to the superior dynamic range of the K3.
I have not done similar tests.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/24/2014 5:01 PM, PA2V wrote:

Hi guys.

  


I have compared my brand new K3 against my IC756pro2 in JT65b mode while
doing EME on 432 MHz.

With the same transverter, antenna, preamp etc. I see stations 2 dB better
with the K3.

It also made me see another station at -30 dB that I could not detect on the
756.

I just wonder, is this because the famous low noise architecture or just the
clean audio of the K3?

The K3 is connected via the line-out to a Delta44 soundcard at the PC.

Audio levels have been carefully checked to be sure I am doing exactly the
same to both rigs.

The RF path 28 MHz  432 MHz  was exactly the same all the time. I switched
with relays between the rigs.

Is there any other K3 owner who did the same test on here?

73, Peter PA2V



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Re: [Elecraft] 10 MHz Transverter Band IF for K3

2014-01-24 Thread Wayne Burdick
We've heard this from several customers, now, so it has moved up the list.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Michael Mussler mmuss...@wispertel.net wrote:

 A clarification is in order concerning my earlier post. If not already 
 available, I am requesting a K3 firmware revision that adds the selection of 
 a 10 MHz IF for transverter operation (via the XVn IF CONFIG menu 
 selection). In my application this added selection would allow use of the 
 same external 10 MHz reference signal I use with my K3 for a stable and clean 
 630m transverter LO.
 -Mike Mussler AI8Z
 mmuss...@wispertel.net
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] 10 MHz Transverter Band IF for K3

2014-01-24 Thread Hans H Vollmer

Hi,

I would like to have this also for my KX3.

I am using my KX3 with a transverter for 630m.

It would be nice to have the display showing 0.475 instead of 10.475.

73 de Hans, DF5SR
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[Elecraft] K3 to KAT500

2014-01-24 Thread tom armour
If I buy a K3/100 without auto tuner and a KAT500 is there any additional cable 
I need (other than coax) to connect the two together? or does KAT500 come with 
all cable beeded to connect it to the K3?  I see a cable for KAT500 to KPA500 
but not to the K3.
Is there anything I'll be missing with the KAT500 vs the internal tuner other 
than portability?  I hope to be able to make an order soon.
Thanks
73 - Tom - wa4ta
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 to KAT500

2014-01-24 Thread Jim Brown

On 1/24/2014 3:52 PM, tom armour wrote:

If I buy a K3/100 without auto tuner and a KAT500 is there any additional cable 
I need (other than coax) to connect the two together?


Some folks feel the need for an AUX cable to tell the KAT500 what band 
it is on. I don't, because the KAT500 has a very fast frequency counter 
that can figure that out with a short burst of RF.



or does KAT500 come with all cable beeded to connect it to the K3?


Yes.

  I see a cable for KAT500 to KPA500 but not to the K3.


Yes. To prevent damage to its relays, the KAT500 must be able to 
interrupt the keying line to any power amp that is used.  It has an RCA 
input, and an RCA output. So ONLY if you're running an amp, you need an 
RCA-RCA between rig and KAT500, and another between KAT500 and power amp 
PTT.



Is there anything I'll be missing with the KAT500 vs the internal tuner other 
than portability?


QRP autotune  -- the KAT500 is optimized for high power, and doesn't 
autotune very well below about 10W.


73, Jim K9YC


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[Elecraft] K3 to KAT500

2014-01-24 Thread Rick Bates
The internal tuner is MUCH quieter if that is a factor (mouse vs elephant).
It also provides a slightly better match (not quite the same component
values) and seems faster than the KAT500 for tuning (I haven't measured it).


The internal tuner has no issues with my EDZ dipole (two opposing 5/8 at
75M) on any band; the KAT500 has troubles on 75 and 160 (antenna is too
reactive).

If you EVER plan on taking the K3 anywhere, having an internal tuner means
you can operate without having to take the KAT500 et al as well.

73,
Rick wa6nhc


 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Brown
 
 On 1/24/2014 3:52 PM, tom armour wrote:
  Is there anything I'll be missing with the KAT500 vs the internal tuner
 other than portability?
 
 QRP autotune  -- the KAT500 is optimized for high power, and doesn't
 autotune very well below about 10W.


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[Elecraft] K3 to KAT500

2014-01-24 Thread Johnny Siu
Apart from Jim's advice below, I would supplement as follows:

1.  If you have no intention to take K3 as portable use or your K3 is a station 
rig, I would go for KAT500.  This will give you the future liberty of buying a 
KPA500 or other linear amplifier.
2.  Once you have a linear, the internal KAT3 tuner will become redundant.  In 
fact, I sold the KAT3 to subsidize the purchase of KAT500.  I am using KX3 for 
portable use.

73

Johnny VR2XMC
 


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傳送日期︰ 2014年01月25日 (週六) 8:04 AM
主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 to KAT500
  

On 1/24/2014 3:52 PM, tom armour wrote:
 If I buy a K3/100 without auto tuner and a KAT500 is there any additional 
 cable I need (other than coax) to connect the two together?

Some folks feel the need for an AUX cable to tell the KAT500 what band 
it is on. I don't, because the KAT500 has a very fast frequency counter 
that can figure that out with a short burst of RF.

 or does KAT500 come with all cable beeded to connect it to the K3?

Yes.
   I see a cable for KAT500 to KPA500 but not to the K3.

Yes. To prevent damage to its relays, the KAT500 must be able to 
interrupt the keying line to any power amp that is used.  It has an RCA 
input, and an RCA output. So ONLY if you're running an amp, you need an 
RCA-RCA between rig and KAT500, and another between KAT500 and power amp 
PTT.

 Is there anything I'll be missing with the KAT500 vs the internal tuner other 
 than portability?

QRP autotune  -- the KAT500 is optimized for high power, and doesn't 
autotune very well below about 10W.

73, Jim K9YC


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[Elecraft] K2 Audio control scratchy throughout the range

2014-01-24 Thread Andrew Catanzaro
I inherited a second K2.  It is serial number 85 and works very well 
except the volume control is noisy and erratic throughout its range.  Do 
I need to do anything other than replace the pot?  I know there were 
other mods for the volume control and its circuit, but I believe it was 
because of noise only on the low end of the range.  I think this pot is 
just plain old and the radio sat unused for the last seven years.


Thanks!

Andy W9NJY
Milwaukee

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 to KAT500

2014-01-24 Thread tom armour
ThanksGreat input so far!It is really helping me finalize my decision. 

A few more notes/questions:I have an old tube amp (fl-2100) that does about 
600w max I intend to use until I get the money together for a KPA500.
I currently use a manual tuner that I could potentially put in line if I want 
to run QRP.I do not intend to move the K3 a lot.  I have another radio I can 
use portable.

With the old amp should I have an AUX cable?  or is the RCA cables 
Rig-KAT500-Amp enough?
73 - Tom - wa4ta
 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:27:07 +0800
 From: vr2...@yahoo.com.hk
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft]  K3 to KAT500
 
 Apart from Jim's advice below, I would supplement as follows:
 
 1.  If you have no intention to take K3 as portable use or your K3 is a 
 station rig, I would go for KAT500.  This will give you the future liberty of 
 buying a KPA500 or other linear amplifier.
 2.  Once you have a linear, the internal KAT3 tuner will become redundant.  
 In fact, I sold the KAT3 to subsidize the purchase of KAT500.  I am using KX3 
 for portable use.
 
 73
 
 Johnny VR2XMC
  
 
 
  寄件人︰ Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 傳送日期︰ 2014年01月25日 (週六) 8:04 AM
 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 to KAT500
   
 
 On 1/24/2014 3:52 PM, tom armour wrote:
  If I buy a K3/100 without auto tuner and a KAT500 is there any additional 
  cable I need (other than coax) to connect the two together?
 
 Some folks feel the need for an AUX cable to tell the KAT500 what band 
 it is on. I don't, because the KAT500 has a very fast frequency counter 
 that can figure that out with a short burst of RF.
 
  or does KAT500 come with all cable beeded to connect it to the K3?
 
 Yes.
I see a cable for KAT500 to KPA500 but not to the K3.
 
 Yes. To prevent damage to its relays, the KAT500 must be able to 
 interrupt the keying line to any power amp that is used.  It has an RCA 
 input, and an RCA output. So ONLY if you're running an amp, you need an 
 RCA-RCA between rig and KAT500, and another between KAT500 and power amp 
 PTT.
 
  Is there anything I'll be missing with the KAT500 vs the internal tuner 
  other than portability?
 
 QRP autotune  -- the KAT500 is optimized for high power, and doesn't 
 autotune very well below about 10W.
 
 73, Jim K9YC
 
 
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[Elecraft] K3 to KAT500

2014-01-24 Thread Johnny Siu
Tom,

KAT500 has built-in internal frequency counter for auto band switching.  The 
supplied cable with KAT500 will be good enough.  The aux cable will be more 
useful if you eventually have the KPA500.  

I suggest you download the operation manual of KAT500.  There are connection 
diagram inside the manual which will give you very good ideas.

73

Johnny Vr2XMC
 


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主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 to KAT500
  

ThanksGreat input so far!It is really helping me finalize my decision. 

A few more notes/questions:I have an old tube amp (fl-2100) that does about 
600w max I intend to use until I get the money together for a KPA500.
I currently use a manual tuner that I could potentially put in line if I want 
to run QRP.I do not intend to move the K3 a lot.  I have another radio I can 
use portable.

With the old amp should I have an AUX cable?  or is the RCA cables 
Rig-KAT500-Amp enough?
73 - Tom - wa4ta
 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:27:07 +0800
 From: vr2...@yahoo.com.hk
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft]  K3 to KAT500
 
 Apart from Jim's advice below, I would supplement as follows:
 
 1.  If you have no intention to take K3 as portable use or your K3 is a 
 station rig, I would go for KAT500.  This will give you the future liberty of 
 buying a KPA500 or other linear amplifier.
 2.  Once you have a linear, the internal KAT3 tuner will become redundant.  
 In fact, I sold the KAT3 to subsidize the purchase of KAT500.  I am using KX3 
 for portable use.
 
 73
 
 Johnny VR2XMC
  
 
 
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 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 傳送日期︰ 2014年01月25日 (週六) 8:04 AM
 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 to KAT500
  
 
 On 1/24/2014 3:52 PM, tom armour wrote:
  If I buy a K3/100 without auto tuner and a KAT500 is there any additional 
  cable I need (other than coax) to connect the two together?
 
 Some folks feel the need for an AUX cable to tell the KAT500 what band 
 it is on. I don't, because the KAT500 has a very fast frequency counter 
 that can figure that out with a short burst of RF.
 
  or does KAT500 come with all cable beeded to connect it to the K3?
 
 Yes.
    I see a cable for KAT500 to KPA500 but not to the K3.
 
 Yes. To prevent damage to its relays, the KAT500 must be able to 
 interrupt the keying line to any power amp that is used.  It has an RCA 
 input, and an RCA output. So ONLY if you're running an amp, you need an 
 RCA-RCA between rig and KAT500, and another between KAT500 and power amp 
 PTT.
 
  Is there anything I'll be missing with the KAT500 vs the internal tuner 
  other than portability?
 
 QRP autotune  -- the KAT500 is optimized for high power, and doesn't 
 autotune very well below about 10W.
 
 73, Jim K9YC
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] W2 wattmeter not reading xv50 output

2014-01-24 Thread Bob KD7YZ
On 1/24/2014 02:44, John Marvin wrote:
 1) ... Did you take note of SWR and reverse power using the W2 utility?

1.5:1

 2) Did you build your XV50 or did you get a factory built version?

W3FPR built and calibrated it.



 Final question. How were you generating the test signal and what mode
 were you using?

A paddle and in CW mode

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 to KAT500

2014-01-24 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/24/2014 6:27 PM, tom armour wrote:
 With the old amp should I have an AUX cable?  or is the RCA cables 
 Rig-KAT500-Amp enough?

That's what you MUST use. I don't know anything about PTT for that
particular amplifier, so you should investigate voltage and current to
make sure it's OK with the K3. Most modern amps are.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] K2 Push To Talk

2014-01-24 Thread Lloyd Korb
Has anyone come up with a simple fix to add an external PTT line to the K2?

I recently picked up a used K2 and just completed building a 222
transverter.  I didn't realize that the K2 does not have a Transmit/Receive
switch. So, I will be hot switching, in CW mode.  WSJT is not a problem as
there is a built in delay between when PTT and audio is outputted.

An external sequencer won't help as I can't get control of the K2 PTT line
in CW mode.

Any ideas besides W3FPR's fix?
http://www.w3fpr.com/ptt_input_for_the_elecraft_k2.htm

Thanks,

Lloyd  K8DIO
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Push To Talk

2014-01-24 Thread Don Wilhelm

Lloyd,

If you don't like my fix for this situation, you can use a footswitch to 
activate your amp and switch your preamp off-line before hitting the 
paddles - just don't make any mistakes and get things in the wrong order.


I have not seen anything comparable to my solution.  It was intended 
specifically for those using VHF gear with the K2.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/24/2014 11:12 PM, Lloyd Korb wrote:

Has anyone come up with a simple fix to add an external PTT line to the K2?

I recently picked up a used K2 and just completed building a 222
transverter.  I didn't realize that the K2 does not have a Transmit/Receive
switch. So, I will be hot switching, in CW mode.  WSJT is not a problem as
there is a built in delay between when PTT and audio is outputted.

An external sequencer won't help as I can't get control of the K2 PTT line
in CW mode.

Any ideas besides W3FPR's fix?
http://www.w3fpr.com/ptt_input_for_the_elecraft_k2.htm

Thanks,




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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Audio control scratchy throughout the range

2014-01-24 Thread Don Wilhelm

Andy,

Replace the AF Gain pot and install the Alternate AF Gain Wiring Mod 
http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2_AF_pot/K2_AF_gain_app_note.htm.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/24/2014 9:03 PM, Andrew Catanzaro wrote:
I inherited a second K2.  It is serial number 85 and works very well 
except the volume control is noisy and erratic throughout its range.  
Do I need to do anything other than replace the pot?  I know there 
were other mods for the volume control and its circuit, but I believe 
it was because of noise only on the low end of the range.  I think 
this pot is just plain old and the radio sat unused for the last seven 
years.


Thanks!



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[Elecraft] semi delay

2014-01-24 Thread Gary Smith
Hi,

I'm working the 160M CW contest and I'd like to lengthen the time of 
the semi setting. The QSK full is perfect for QSK but when I'm 
sending at 28 WPM or so  in the semi setting, the relay in the amp 
is still triggering as I send. I'd like to make the delay be a bit 
longer. In other words, I'd like to set the semi to make it so I 
hear nothing while I send, it's too close to full QSK.

How do I adjust this to my liking?

Thanks!

Gary
KA1J

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Re: [Elecraft] semi delay

2014-01-24 Thread Gary Smith
Oh for goodness sakes, I don't know how I missed how to do that but I 
got it.

Sorry for the interruption...

73

Gary

 Hi,
 
 I'm working the 160M CW contest and I'd like to lengthen the time of
 the semi setting. The QSK full is perfect for QSK but when I'm
 sending at 28 WPM or so  in the semi setting, the relay in the
 amp 
 is still triggering as I send. I'd like to make the delay be a bit
 longer. In other words, I'd like to set the semi to make it so I
 hear nothing while I send, it's too close to full QSK.
 
 How do I adjust this to my liking?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Gary
 KA1J
 
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