Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 40 meters

2014-10-21 Thread Clive Lorton


On 21/10/2014 01:18, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

Those of us who have officially become olde phartes, no longer report such
events to the statistical data base, and have no intention whatsoever of
telling anyone how many times we *really* do that to ourselves.
Being a fully paid up member of the Old Pharts Club if I make a change 
to the configuration I then make a backup. Then if I  F*** it up, before 
I try anything else I do a restore that usually and somewhat, magically, 
cures the problem :-)

The price for all that wonderful K3 technical flexibility.

Absolutely.

Clive G8POC
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[Elecraft] [KX3] running KX3 macros from PX3 function buttons

2014-10-21 Thread Matt VK2RQ
One of the limitations of the KX3 is that there are only two programable PF 
keys. The PX3 has more function keys available, and I'm wondering if anyone has 
thought of the possibility of firing off macros on the KX3 by pressing the 
function keys of the PX3.

73,
Matt VK2RQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Coiled Coax Choke

2014-10-21 Thread david Moes
You say a 1:1 balun.What type is it and  should it not be preventing 
common mode currents?   If not Id consider one that will rather than 
adding a choke.  I bought a commercial 1:1 Balun  opened it up and found 
it to be just a length of RG8X looped once inside the casing with half a 
dozen ferrites around it.  What I have done is have ground rods at the 
base of the pole.   I am using a 10-80 +warc fan dipole that looks a 
little like a flattened spider web supported with guyed camouflage tent 
poles to about 40 ft   I have 6 ferrites on the coax at the feed  the 
ones I got out of the commercial balun. Then at the base I have several 
5 ft copper pipes driven into the ground  around the pole about 5 ft 
apart  all bonded together with 6 gauge bare copper that is also burred 
a few inched below the surface  safe from the lawn mower.  I have a 
barrel connector at the base that lets me connect the shield  to this 
groundI have no common mode issues. at least I have not experienced 
any.



David VE3SD

On 10/20/2014 22:28, Dauer, Edward wrote:

I am thinking of adding a coiled coax common-mode choke to my system.
Presently it goes K3-KPA500-KAT500 then 100 ft coax to the base of an
inverted Vee¹s center support pole (collapsible fiberglass), then 30 feet
up the pole to a 1:1 balun feeding a fanned 10-15-20 Vee.  The idea, for a
couple of reasons, is to put the choke at the base of the pole, something
I haven¹t seen discussed in the literature.  Two questions I am wondering
about:  1. The choke would be 100 feet from the tuner and about 25 feet
from the antenna/balun.  Probably not as good as having it right at the
Vee, but is that compromise worth while?  2.  For appearance sake I am
thinking about winding the coax around the base of the support pole.  It
is 2 inches in diameter but I could slip a 3 inch PVC over that section to
increase the diameter.  Anyone know an algorithm for determining the
number of turns in the winding if I do that?  I would be much obliged for
any thoughts and suggestions . . .   Tnx!

Ted, KN1CBR

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Re: [Elecraft] Coiled Coax Choke

2014-10-21 Thread Michael Walker
David

What mix of ferrites are you using?

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:29 AM, david Moes dm...@nexicom.net wrote:

 You say a 1:1 balun.What type is it and  should it not be preventing
 common mode currents?   If not Id consider one that will rather than adding
 a choke.  I bought a commercial 1:1 Balun  opened it up and found it to be
 just a length of RG8X looped once inside the casing with half a dozen
 ferrites around it.  What I have done is have ground rods at the base of
 the pole.   I am using a 10-80 +warc fan dipole that looks a little like a
 flattened spider web supported with guyed camouflage tent poles to about 40
 ft   I have 6 ferrites on the coax at the feed  the ones I got out of the
 commercial balun. Then at the base I have several 5 ft copper pipes driven
 into the ground  around the pole about 5 ft apart  all bonded together with
 6 gauge bare copper that is also burred a few inched below the surface
 safe from the lawn mower.  I have a barrel connector at the base that lets
 me connect the shield  to this groundI have no common mode issues. at
 least I have not experienced any.


 David VE3SD

 On 10/20/2014 22:28, Dauer, Edward wrote:

 I am thinking of adding a coiled coax common-mode choke to my system.
 Presently it goes K3-KPA500-KAT500 then 100 ft coax to the base of an
 inverted Vee¹s center support pole (collapsible fiberglass), then 30 feet
 up the pole to a 1:1 balun feeding a fanned 10-15-20 Vee.  The idea, for a
 couple of reasons, is to put the choke at the base of the pole, something
 I haven¹t seen discussed in the literature.  Two questions I am wondering
 about:  1. The choke would be 100 feet from the tuner and about 25 feet
 from the antenna/balun.  Probably not as good as having it right at the
 Vee, but is that compromise worth while?  2.  For appearance sake I am
 thinking about winding the coax around the base of the support pole.  It
 is 2 inches in diameter but I could slip a 3 inch PVC over that section to
 increase the diameter.  Anyone know an algorithm for determining the
 number of turns in the winding if I do that?  I would be much obliged for
 any thoughts and suggestions . . .   Tnx!

 Ted, KN1CBR

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[Elecraft] K3 bandpass shift - cw mode

2014-10-21 Thread John/K8AZT
All of a sudden I can not shift the center frequency of the bandpass on my K3.  
When I turn the knob it reads the proper center frequency (spot pitch), but I 
can not change it.

Any suggestions?
73,
John/K8AZT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 40 meters

2014-10-21 Thread Bill Frantz
I'm part of that club. I saved considerable time by going to the 
trouble shooting section of the manual. On page 65 I found this 
lovely section:


No received signal: Check (1) receiver being squelched (if 
RF/SQL controls are assigned to squelch via CONFIG:SQ MAIN or SQ 
SUB, rotate squelch controls fully counter-clockwise); (2) RF 
GAIN too low (set RF gain controls fully clockwise); (3) 
bandwidth too narrow (set WIDTH or tap XFIL, and also verify 
filter configuration settings); (4) switching to an open receive 
antenna on the KXV3 (RX ANT IN); (5) switching the KAT3 to an 
open antenna jack; (6) CONFIG:REF CAL parameter not adjusted 
properly; (7) CONFIG:KXV3 may be set to TEST, which routes all 
RF through the XVTR IN/OUT jacks.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/20/14 at 5:18 PM, k2av@gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) wrote:


Please note that at last count 98.91% of all K3 owners have pulled that
wrong antenna per band stunt on themselves and spent at least an hour
looking elsewhere for the problem.


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Re: [Elecraft] setting up Fldigi

2014-10-21 Thread JAY
Hi All,
I am in the process of getting started with digital operations.
I have a Signal Link USB connected to the K3. I have been able to RX and TX
but know would like to us rig control is this possible at this time. I see
on the web site for Fldigi that the K series is a Beta state.
I would like to change freq on the K3 and have the display change with it
like logging programs.
I hope that this is possible at this time.
Thanks in advance

-- 
73

KI4TXP  JAY
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 bandpass shift - cw mode

2014-10-21 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


Do you have QRQ mode enabled?

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-10-21 10:45 AM, John/K8AZT wrote:

All of a sudden I can not shift the center frequency of the bandpass on my K3.  
When I turn the knob it reads the proper center frequency (spot pitch), but I 
can not change it.

Any suggestions?
73,
John/K8AZT
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Re: [Elecraft] setting up Fldigi

2014-10-21 Thread Bill Frantz
I have gotten fldigi tor track the K3 frequency using the 
Elecraft USB to RS-232 cable on my Mac. Make sure no other 
program is using the interface and select K3 in the rig 
selection on fldigi.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/21/14 at 8:08 AM, ki4...@gmail.com (JAY) wrote:


Hi All,
I am in the process of getting started with digital operations.
I have a Signal Link USB connected to the K3. I have been able to RX and TX
but know would like to us rig control is this possible at this time. I see
on the web site for Fldigi that the K series is a Beta state.
I would like to change freq on the K3 and have the display change with it
like logging programs.


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(408)356-8506  | contact sport.   | 16345 
Englewood Ave
www.pwpconsult.com |  - Ken Widelitz K6LA / VY2TT | Los Gatos, 
CA 95032


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Re: [Elecraft] setting up Fldigi

2014-10-21 Thread ejkkjh

Jay,
I am running same set up as you.  It works fine.
Fldigi version here is 3.22.00.
In configure, rig control, Hamlib, select, use Hamlib, rig Elecraft K3/KX3 
beta, and correct com port.

Any other questions let me know.  Good luck. 73
Emory WM3M

-Original Message- 
From: JAY

Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:08 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] setting up Fldigi

Hi All,
I am in the process of getting started with digital operations.
I have a Signal Link USB connected to the K3. I have been able to RX and TX
but know would like to us rig control is this possible at this time. I see
on the web site for Fldigi that the K series is a Beta state.
I would like to change freq on the K3 and have the display change with it
like logging programs.
I hope that this is possible at this time.
Thanks in advance

--
73

KI4TXP  JAY
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] running KX3 macros from PX3 function buttons

2014-10-21 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Hi Matt, 

When the USB keyboard feature is added to the PX3 it will include pretty
much the same functionality as the P3/SVGA implementation, which includes
the ability to create and send macros (to the KX3). 

-Paul




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Re: [Elecraft] PAE-Kx33 Power Supply Accessories

2014-10-21 Thread Bill Frantz
I bought one of these power supplies for my KX3 and have been 
using it in my rural New Hampshire QTH. It has been performing 
flawlessly, allowing full power (12W) CW and SSB operation. I 
have not been able to hear any noise, even when A/B testing 
against the internal KX3 batteries. The noise floor here can be 
as low as S0-S1.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 9/26/14 at 4:59 PM, hh...@mebtel.net (Howard Hoyt) wrote:

A quick notice to minimize bandwidth: Our Kx33 AC Power Supply 
for the KX3 and the #33-100 KX3  PX3 DC Power Splitter are now 
in stock, please go to our website: 
https://proaudioeng.com/products/pae-kx33-ac-power-supply/ for 
more details.


Cheers  73,

Howie - WA4PSC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 bandpass shift - cw mode

2014-10-21 Thread d...@lightstream.net
John,

Bandpass shift will not function if QRQ is engaged. Either turn off QRQ or
engage RIT, or XIT, or SPLIT (all of which will temporarily disable QRQ),
and your bandpass shift should work as you expect.

73, Dale
WA8SRA


 All of a sudden I can not shift the center frequency of the bandpass on my
 K3.  When I turn the knob it reads the proper center frequency (spot
 pitch), but I can not change it.

 Any suggestions?
 73,
 John/K8AZT
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Re: [Elecraft] setting up Fldigi

2014-10-21 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


Signalink USB does not provide a serial control interface for the rig.

You will not be able to control the K3 with *only* Signalink USB - you
will need a traditional serial port, USB to serial adapter, or another
interface that includes the USB to serial adapter function.

With the proper hardware there is no problem controlling the K3 from
fldigi or most other digital and/or logging programs that provide for
rig control.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-10-21 11:08 AM, JAY wrote:

Hi All,
I am in the process of getting started with digital operations.
I have a Signal Link USB connected to the K3. I have been able to RX and TX
but know would like to us rig control is this possible at this time. I see
on the web site for Fldigi that the K series is a Beta state.
I would like to change freq on the K3 and have the display change with it
like logging programs.
I hope that this is possible at this time.
Thanks in advance


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Re: [Elecraft] setting up Fldigi

2014-10-21 Thread Joel Black
...and I would like to add that downloading and installing Flrig will 
help quite a bit with controlling the radio. Flrig connects via XML to 
Fldigi and gives greater control than RigCAT or Hamlib. Flrig will give 
you CAT control of the K3 via serial port (or USB-to-serial).


On another note, depending on your OS, there are two Yahoo groups 
pertaining to Fldigi - Win-Fldigi (I think) pertains to Fldigi on 
Windows; Linuxham pertains to Fldigi on Linux and the Mac OS. Linuxham 
*also* deals with ham radio and Linux / Mac OS in general too.


73,
Joel - W4JBB

On 10/21/14, 2:37 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


Signalink USB does not provide a serial control interface for the rig.

You will not be able to control the K3 with *only* Signalink USB - you
will need a traditional serial port, USB to serial adapter, or another
interface that includes the USB to serial adapter function.

With the proper hardware there is no problem controlling the K3 from
fldigi or most other digital and/or logging programs that provide for
rig control.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-10-21 11:08 AM, JAY wrote:

Hi All,
I am in the process of getting started with digital operations.
I have a Signal Link USB connected to the K3. I have been able to RX 
and TX
but know would like to us rig control is this possible at this time. 
I see

on the web site for Fldigi that the K series is a Beta state.
I would like to change freq on the K3 and have the display change 
with it

like logging programs.
I hope that this is possible at this time.
Thanks in advance


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Re: [Elecraft] Coiled Coax Choke

2014-10-21 Thread david Moes

what ever it was in the balun I purchased and took apart so Im not sure.

David Moes
President: Peterborough Amateur Radio Club.
dm...@nexicom.net
VE3DVY,  VE3SD

On 10/21/2014 09:49, Michael Walker wrote:

David

What mix of ferrites are you using?

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:29 AM, david Moes dm...@nexicom.net wrote:


You say a 1:1 balun.What type is it and  should it not be preventing
common mode currents?   If not Id consider one that will rather than adding
a choke.  I bought a commercial 1:1 Balun  opened it up and found it to be
just a length of RG8X looped once inside the casing with half a dozen
ferrites around it.  What I have done is have ground rods at the base of
the pole.   I am using a 10-80 +warc fan dipole that looks a little like a
flattened spider web supported with guyed camouflage tent poles to about 40
ft   I have 6 ferrites on the coax at the feed  the ones I got out of the
commercial balun. Then at the base I have several 5 ft copper pipes driven
into the ground  around the pole about 5 ft apart  all bonded together with
6 gauge bare copper that is also burred a few inched below the surface
safe from the lawn mower.  I have a barrel connector at the base that lets
me connect the shield  to this groundI have no common mode issues. at
least I have not experienced any.


David VE3SD

On 10/20/2014 22:28, Dauer, Edward wrote:


I am thinking of adding a coiled coax common-mode choke to my system.
Presently it goes K3-KPA500-KAT500 then 100 ft coax to the base of an
inverted Vee¹s center support pole (collapsible fiberglass), then 30 feet
up the pole to a 1:1 balun feeding a fanned 10-15-20 Vee.  The idea, for a
couple of reasons, is to put the choke at the base of the pole, something
I haven¹t seen discussed in the literature.  Two questions I am wondering
about:  1. The choke would be 100 feet from the tuner and about 25 feet
from the antenna/balun.  Probably not as good as having it right at the
Vee, but is that compromise worth while?  2.  For appearance sake I am
thinking about winding the coax around the base of the support pole.  It
is 2 inches in diameter but I could slip a 3 inch PVC over that section to
increase the diameter.  Anyone know an algorithm for determining the
number of turns in the winding if I do that?  I would be much obliged for
any thoughts and suggestions . . .   Tnx!

Ted, KN1CBR

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[Elecraft] SO-239 Bulk head fitting..

2014-10-21 Thread Dave G.
Does anyone know the size of the nut that secures a bulkhead SO-239
socket to a chassis?
Available at my local hardware store?

Dave G.KK7SS
Richland, WA.
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Re: [Elecraft] SO-239 Bulk head fitting..

2014-10-21 Thread George Dubovsky
Dave,

It's 5/8-24, and not likely available at the hdwe store. For one thing, it
usually has to be very thin to work in bulkhead installations. The same
thread is used for N connectors, so ask around the local hams and see who
has a good junk box.

73,

geo - n4ua

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 Does anyone know the size of the nut that secures a bulkhead SO-239
 socket to a chassis?
 Available at my local hardware store?

 Dave G.KK7SS
 Richland, WA.
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Re: [Elecraft] SO-239 Bulk head fitting..

2014-10-21 Thread Walter Underwood
For Amphenol, it depends on whether it is a front-mount or rear-mount. 
Front-mount is 0.562 in. (9/16 in. or 14.3mm). Rear-mount is 0.750 in. (19mm).

Specs: http://www.amphenolrf.com/pdf/189.pdf

wunder
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 Does anyone know the size of the nut that secures a bulkhead SO-239
 socket to a chassis?
 Available at my local hardware store?
 
 Dave G.KK7SS
 Richland, WA.
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Re: [Elecraft] SO-239 Bulk head fitting..

2014-10-21 Thread Dave G.
To all who replied (you know who you are...).

Thank you very much  :-)
Off to my local hardware shop 
Dave G.KK7SS
Richland, WA.
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[Elecraft] PX3

2014-10-21 Thread Jim Brown
Kit-build went smoothly, except for a brain fart on my part. This is a 
real cute little box, and will be even nicer when all the firmware is 
done. One very important thing missing is Fixed Tune Mode.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3

2014-10-21 Thread Phil Wheeler
I noticed that in the FAQ, Jim. I sure hope it can 
be implemented since that's the only way I use my 
P3 and am holding off on the PX3 for that reason. 
I'm concerned that the FAQ has an if in it re 
this mode:  If this feature is added at a future 
date, it may have somewhat different performance 
than in the P3, in terms of displayed bandwidth 
and allowed offset from the currently-tuned 
frequency.


73, Phil W7OX


On 10/21/14, 6:33 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
Kit-build went smoothly, except for a brain fart 
on my part. This is a real cute little box, and 
will be even nicer when all the firmware is 
done. One very important thing missing is Fixed 
Tune Mode.


73, Jim K9YC


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[Elecraft] Coiled coax choke

2014-10-21 Thread Dauer, Edward
Thanks to all who replied to my coiled-coax choke question.  Good ideas,
all; and I am off to study what K9YC has written on the subject . . .

73, Ted KN1CBR



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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 19:48:29 -0700
From: Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Coiled Coax Choke
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A choke in the middle of the transmission line could help, but the usual
configuration is a current balun at the antenna to reject common-mode
signals at the source, plus an optional choke at the entrance to the
shack to reject noise picked up by the outside of the coax shield.

A coiled-coax choke works OK, but you get the best rejection from a
toroid-based choke or balun. I?ve had good results with the ones from
Balun Designs (http://www.balundesigns.com).

Putting a Balun Designs balun at my dipole dropped the noise by 6dB.

I highly recommend K9YC?s super-detailed explanation of fighting noise in
your antenna and elsewhere in your shack.

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

wunder
K6WRU


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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:31:35 -0700
From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Coiled Coax Choke
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On 10/20/2014 7:28 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
 I am thinking of adding a coiled coax common-mode choke to my system.

Although it's all over the literature, a coil of coax is NOT an
effective common mode choke. I've discussed this at length in
k9yc.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

What do you mean by antenna/balun? The word balun describes at least
a dozen different things. What problem are you trying to solve?

73, Jim K9YC



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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:29:38 -0400
From: david Moes dm...@nexicom.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Coiled Coax Choke
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You say a 1:1 balun.What type is it and  should it not be preventing
common mode currents?   If not Id consider one that will rather than
adding a choke.  I bought a commercial 1:1 Balun  opened it up and found
it to be just a length of RG8X looped once inside the casing with half a
dozen ferrites around it.  What I have done is have ground rods at the
base of the pole.   I am using a 10-80 +warc fan dipole that looks a
little like a flattened spider web supported with guyed camouflage tent
poles to about 40 ft   I have 6 ferrites on the coax at the feed  the
ones I got out of the commercial balun. Then at the base I have several
5 ft copper pipes driven into the ground  around the pole about 5 ft
apart  all bonded together with 6 gauge bare copper that is also burred
a few inched below the surface  safe from the lawn mower.  I have a
barrel connector at the base that lets me connect the shield  to this
groundI have no common mode issues. at least I have not experienced
any.



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Re: [Elecraft] setting up Fldigi

2014-10-21 Thread david Moes
I use it just fine it has said beta for a long time and I have not had 
issues. If using windows,  to run multiple programs that control the K3 
you can use a Virtual Serial Port Emulator  VSPE.  
http://www.eterlogic.com/   it will let you run multiple programs that 
can control the K3   I run FLdigi with logger32 and both communicate at 
the same time just fine even K3 utility will run with  it and K3-EZ all 
concurrently.32 bit version is free  64 bit you have to pay for 
since they have to pay some licence fee to Microsoft for components used 
in the 64bit version.


David Moes
VE3DVY,  VE3SD

On 10/21/2014 11:30, Bill Frantz wrote:
I have gotten fldigi tor track the K3 frequency using the Elecraft USB 
to RS-232 cable on my Mac. Make sure no other program is using the 
interface and select K3 in the rig selection on fldigi.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/21/14 at 8:08 AM, ki4...@gmail.com (JAY) wrote:


Hi All,
I am in the process of getting started with digital operations.
I have a Signal Link USB connected to the K3. I have been able to RX 
and TX
but know would like to us rig control is this possible at this time. 
I see

on the web site for Fldigi that the K series is a Beta state.
I would like to change freq on the K3 and have the display change 
with it

like logging programs.


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Re: [Elecraft] PX3

2014-10-21 Thread Jim Brown

On 10/21/2014 8:39 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
I noticed that in the FAQ, Jim. I sure hope it can be implemented 
since that's the only way I use my P3 and am holding off on the PX3 
for that reason. I'm concerned that the FAQ has an if in it re this 
mode:  If this feature is added at a future date, it may have 
somewhat different performance than in the P3, in terms of displayed 
bandwidth and allowed offset from the currently-tuned frequency. 


Thanks, Phil. I too use my P3s (three of them) ONLY in Fixed Tune Mode. 
It's next to useless if it is continually tracking the VFO frequency. If 
that function doesn't get added in a reasonable time, my PX3 will be for 
sale in a New York minute. :)


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 40 meters

2014-10-21 Thread w7aqk

Hi All,

If there is a downside to the K3's size, the problem described in this 
thread demonstrates that.  The rig is small, and so is the display.  So, 
some of the displayed info gets overlooked easily.  Still, there is a lot of 
info shown on the display, but much of it is in fine print!  Which antenna 
you are using is one of those small print items.  Or, maybe it's just that 
the info as to the antenna in use gets lost amid all the other info being 
displayed!!!  Since my eyesight is slowly but surely going south on me, I 
tend to suffer from the small print issue--at least on occasion.  In any 
event, I've committed the same sin as Fred did, and more than once.  Most 
recently was when I was hearing about all sorts of activity on 6 meters, but 
I was hearing none.  That went on for days until I realized I was listening 
on no antenna!  Ask me how dumb I felt when I finally realized my error!


I think Elecraft did a pretty good job arranging the K3's display of info, 
but surely it could have been a lot better.  After all, nobody is perfect! 
Actually I strongly suspect that designing a proper display (regardless of 
how big or little it is) is more than just good organization.  It's an art 
as well as a science!  Probably there is some very esoteric psychological 
set of issues that would suggest that certain things be displayed a certain 
way, or with bigger font size, or whatever else you can do to make each 
piece of info stand out as necessary.  Maybe if enough people are 
overlooking a key indicator on the display it could be enhanced by making it 
blink?  I don't know what the solution really is.


This may be a poor metaphor, but Fred's post made me think about all the 
times I went to a seminar, and the presenter had flip charts covered from 
corner to corner with all sorts of info listed in a very mundane way.  In 
essence, the visual aids were so busy that not much of it sunk in. 
Compare that to someone who approaches making charts like this with a more 
modest amount of info on each page, or at least does a much better job of 
highlighting key info.  Color coding helps, as does varying the size of key 
items.  Underlining works too!  Elecraft does employ a lot of techniques, 
but I can't say that they have done it as effectively as it could be.


The point is that communication tools, such as displays, do present some 
significant opportunities to EFFECTIVELY convey various pieces of info.  It 
probably takes a real expert to do it right.  I don't know if we have any of 
those in the ham radio business!  At least I can't think of a radio that had 
a display that struck me as being really efficient.


Dave W7AQK 


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