Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition to Bonaire ... Questions

2015-01-14 Thread Kevin Cozens

On 15-01-14 12:12 PM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote:

Just expect it to be searched and have your papers granting permission to
bring your equipment in handy. You may need them


Don't forget a copy of your amateur radio licence or operators certificates. 
When inventorying the equipment you are taking make sure to include any 
relevant serial numbers. Take one copy of the inventory list with you and 
leave one copy at home (just in case).


Years ago when I was travelling on business in to the US I was asked to 
power up the laptop I was carrying with me. Always a good idea to be 
prepared to power up the equipment one is taking in case you do get asked.


--
Cheers!

Kevin.

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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition to Bonaire ... Questions

2015-01-14 Thread Nick Kemp
Here is a post from a July 2014 TSA blog that may or may not be exactly 
pertinent today but is probably generally pertinent:


Electronic devices are already screened daily, but now, security 
officers might ask that you power up your devices, including cell 
phones. Powerless devices will not be permitted onboard the aircraft, so 
it’s important to have them charged prior to going through security.


Their verbage seems poorly written. I was under the understanding that 
TSA may or may not ask for battery powered devices to be powered as a 
check.  The last comment about dead batteries is also important so make 
sure they are charged.  Regardless, it is no big deal if they do.


Nick N1KMP


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[Elecraft] WTB: *****NIFTY MINI MANUAL FOR K2*****

2015-01-14 Thread Alan KB7MBI via Elecraft
I want to buy   NIFTY MINI MANUAL FOR K2 
 
Either   ORIGINAL or high resolution  copy
 
PSE CONTACT ME DIRECT
_ardujenski@aol.com_ (mailto:ardujen...@aol.com) 
 
Thank you
 
Alan KB7MBI
Woodinville, WA
 
 
  

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 1/14/2015  01:58:27 Pacific Standard Time
Subj: NIFTY MINI MANUAL FOR K2


Could someone tell me what the NIFTY MINI MANUAL FOR K2  contains?There 
appears to be very little discussion in  the ARCHIVES. I recently bought a 
used K2 and it would be helpful to have  some sort of guide for set up of 
the radio and operating  shortcuts
 
Alan KB7MBI
Woodinville,  WA

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Re: [Elecraft] Dxpedition to Bonaire

2015-01-14 Thread Gary Gregory
As a retired professional it is all about body language and appearance
sadly a sign of the world we live in.
I take my k3 everywhere i travel. Never had an issue BUT then it is NEVER
about radio, it is ALWAYS about people when you travel.
Enjoy the trip and be calm and talk politely to all.

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 15/01/2015 6:42 AM, Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com wrote:

 All the past stories on where you went and had no TSA problems etc etc are
 really quite worthless.   Have you been there in the past two days?
 Did you notice that the TSA as of today is on high alert,  they are
 checking
 anything and everything in the light of new terror threats against
 airlines.
 They are pulling people out of line with any items suspicious and swabbing
 hands for prior explosive handling.
 There have been updated alerts in the past 24 hours.

 I would still take the radio if you really want to operate,  but call
 ahead or look up the
 latest TSA alert levels and be prepared for more inspection than normal.

 What happened yesterday is not valid in todays world,  like it or not.

 73 Merv K9FD/KH6

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[Elecraft] RemoteRig Micro

2015-01-14 Thread Charles Stampf via Elecraft
 I have available a RemoteRig RRC-Micro PC-Client available for sale.  I no 
longer have any RemoteRig units and therefore no need for this clever device.  
Use your home RemoteRig equipped radio with your laptop and third party 
software for radio control.  I used it with Ham Radio Deluxe with great 
success. Unit comes with built in audio card, pus-to-talk, and USB cable.
$125.00 via PayPal.
Contact me off list for additional info.
Charlie, W4FI

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[Elecraft] New KX3 rig controller

2015-01-14 Thread Edouard Lafargue
Hi everyone,

   Quick intro on the list, since I only very recently joined: Ed, W6ELA. I
have been a Ham for now a bit more than a year, and enjoying this hobby
tremendously. I do a lot of programming and electronics in my spare time as
well, and I am a long time Open Source guy.

   Related to the latter point, I have just launched Wizkers, a new Rig
Controller open source project that supports the KX3, KXPA100 and PX3, and
runs on any computer that supports Google Chrome. Mac, Windows, Linux, it
doesn't matter, it works on every OS :) Even works on any Chromebook if you
have one around.

   I made a short presentation about it at the Palo Alto amateur radio club
last Friday, and got very good feedback, so I thought I would share with
the Elecraft community as a whole.

   If you want to check it out, head over to http://www.wizkers.io/ for
more details. You will find the link to the Google Chrome store at the
bottom of the page. The overall scope of Wizkers goes far beyond Ham radio,
but as Hams, you can focus on the rig control capabilities...

   This rig controller offers unique features such as a advanced KXPA100
monitoring and charting, a very realistic and fully working KX3 panel,
direct VFO input, and an audio waterfall. And it is compatible with fldigi
too!

As an aside: besides working on any Chrome browser, you can also
install this on a BeagleBone and use this as a remote rig controller. I
have not implemented remote audio yet, but it is on the roadmap at some
point. If you have good programming skills in C++ and Javascript and would
like to contribute, you are most welcome! Get in touch with me :)

I am very much looking forward to hearing back from this group on what
you all think of it!

73
Ed, W6ELA

PS: Yes, it is an Open Source project, which means it is free - as in
freedom - as much as it is free - as in free beer.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0

2015-01-14 Thread Edward R Cole

Jeff and others:

I suspect recovering the P3 image remotely may take a bit of 
engineering as it is meant for local use.  I believe the P3 takes the 
K3 IF as input (and that is 8.215 MHz wideband RF).  The idea of 
using the LP-Pan may be better as one has broadband IQ output which 
could be sent to a soundcard for digitizing and transmission via the 
remote link in some manner.  That would provide the wideband digital 
IQ as data at the control station.  One would run their choice of 
panadaptor sw to view it.  But this would not be the P3 display.


Perhaps Elecraft may someday provide digital output from the P3 for 
remoting?  Obviously the P3 generates this at some point in the ckt.


I follow with mild interest.  My concept for a remote station is a 
full-station built into a toy-hauler trailer with foldover mast to 
set up antennas.  Then one only needs internet (wifi?) access at the 
remote site whether that be the cabin or a spare lot somewhere or a 
friend's backyard.  To be super-mobile remote add a satellite uplink 
to feed the internet (very common in the bush up here), and ...Think 
solar power.


73, Ed - KL7UW
I can see this unit parked in a storage lot someday with me an old 
codger living in assisted-living with a computer for control; 
essentially the same situation as someone with CCR.


From: k...@arrl.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0
Message-ID: 004801d02ffc$bda1dc70$38e59550$@net
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

 Sorry for my confusion, I was thinking IQ as the usable form of IF at the
control site, not the raw 8 mHz IF. My idea would be to somehow get the IQ
output from a LP-Pan or similar device, add another box on either end to
send and receive the IQ data, then simply use the control stations computer
soundcard and run your panadapter software of choice. Only problem here is I
don't have a clue on what to use for the remoting of the IQ output from the
LP-Pan...
 All this non-portable, not suited for hotel room use would work for me as I
will be at a desktop computer for 6 months or so while remoting from my
summer home.
 And of course to not stray from the original topic, it would be nice to
have the control station use a P3 with the extra data lines intergraded into
the 1258, or K3/0 mini mark II  :-).


73 Jeff kb2m


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
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[Elecraft] Dxpedition to Bonaire

2015-01-14 Thread Robert Emory
My experience for what it's worth.

Took K3 to New Caledonia stopping in Dallas,
Brisbaine and Sydney.  In Boston where the
trip originated one person wanted to see the
radio but could not get it out of Rose's padded 
case so it was not examined.

New Caledonia back to Australia not one seemed
to care.

Flights back from Broome through Perth Sydney
and to Dallas no one cared.  In Dallas (probably
because I had very little time to catch the connecting
flight to Boston) I had to show the radio so it could
be checked for explosives.

Had brought a portable battery sufficient to power the
radio up only.  Never asked.

Had copies of my US license and permission to operate
in New Caledonia and Australia.  No one even asked.

Botton line, I suppose, is be prepared to provide whatever
the regulations indicate but my experience is that no one
really seemed to care.

Just my experience and hope yours is just as smooth.

Best,
Bob (KD1CT)
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Re: [Elecraft] Dxpedition to Bonaire

2015-01-14 Thread Merv Schweigert

All the past stories on where you went and had no TSA problems etc etc are
really quite worthless.   Have you been there in the past two days?
Did you notice that the TSA as of today is on high alert,  they are 
checking

anything and everything in the light of new terror threats against airlines.
They are pulling people out of line with any items suspicious and swabbing
hands for prior explosive handling.
There have been updated alerts in the past 24 hours.

I would still take the radio if you really want to operate,  but call 
ahead or look up the

latest TSA alert levels and be prepared for more inspection than normal.

What happened yesterday is not valid in todays world,  like it or not.

73 Merv K9FD/KH6

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[Elecraft] [K3] NaP3 / CW Skimmer intergration using only K3 as RX

2015-01-14 Thread Luther Phillips

Hi John:

Make sure you have the MME audio driver selected in both NaP3  CW Skimmer. 
The ASIO driver does not allow sharing of the audio stream.


73,
Luther N4UW 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 mini

2015-01-14 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
It's not completely clear from the K3/0-mini documentation (which is
rather high-level), but it appears that it only has a TTL interface
(for connection to the RemoteRig box), and not RS232, so you wouldn't
be able to directly connect it to a K3 using a null modem cable, as
you could with the original K3/0. Perhaps you could build a
level-converter and make it work - I don't know if it's that simple or
not. It'd be a rather expensive upgrade anyway.

73,

~iain / N6ML



On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:39 AM, W2BLC w2...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 Does that mean all the wires and hardware that would be used for a real
 remote operation are needed just to get the faceplate on the desk for ease
 of use? Please explain - it has been very difficult to get this question
 answered.

 Thanks,

 Bill W2BLC K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 + iMic Sound Card = Wild Scan

2015-01-14 Thread David Ahrendts
High fives to everyone who helped a dig-newby get up and running. Happy to say 
FLDigi is cookin’ on the Mac Mini using a SignaLink sound card and a home brew 
cable to the KX3-KXPA100. Thanks especially to Dave, G0WBX, who provided 
detailed help. Had my first PSK QSO LA to Alberta last evening. Love digital 
with the KX3.

David Ahrendts, KC0XT, Los Angeles


 On Jan 8, 2015, at 7:28 AM, David Ahrendts davidahren...@me.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Dave B g8kbvd...@googlemail.com mailto:g8kbvd...@googlemail.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: January 8, 2015 at 4:25:49 AM PST
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 + iMic Sound Card = Wild Scan
 
 Use a 4 pole jack plug too helps.
 
 Tip, Ring, Ring, Sleve.
 
 They are relatively easy to obtain.
 
 You may also (probably will) need a resistive atenuator, and maybe a DC 
 blocking cap between the iMic's line out, and the KX3's Mic input.   Or 
 setting 
 levels gets tricky!
 
 For receive, there are other issues, using the Phones jack, mutes the rig's 
 speaker.
 
 Using the I/Q output, is another way, but I've had poor results with that.   
 I 
 ended up making a cable that had a floating jack socket, to connect a small 
 speaker or 'phones to, while using digimodes, that in turn connects to the 
 Phone 
 socket on the rig.
 
 For Fldigi use, set the rig into USB and DATA A mode (turns off any/all 
 TX/RX 
 equalisation, but keeps the settings you have for voice modes.)
 
 Set the rig's filters so that it passes just about everything between 100 
 and 
 3000Hz to the iMic.  Let Fldigi do all the heavy lifting.
 
 Use USB for ALL Fldigi work, even if you are working on the low bands.   
 If you 
 need to swap tones (for some RTTY needs) use Fldigi's Rev button (lower 
 right.)
 
 If you have the USBKX3 serial lead, try using the K3 driver XML file 
 (download from the Fldigi XML archives page  
 http://www.w1hkj.com/xmlarchives.html 
 http://www.w1hkj.com/xmlarchives.html)
 
 Or try using Flrig also set to use a K3.   Hamlib results vary!
 
 Then the frequency values in Fldigi follow what the rig is doing, much 
 easier to 
 use that way.
 
 (The RIGCAT XML route is my preference, edited so that JUST the tuning and 
 frequency data passes back/forth, I prefer to manipulate the radio's other 
 settings by  mk1 fingers at this time.)
 
 Note, the KX3 and K3 use a CAT protocol that is very similar to that used by 
 Kenwood.   There is a lot you can do with it, but there are some significant 
 differences!
 
 Enjoy!
 
 73.
 
 Dave.  G0WBX.
 
 
 
 David,
 
 Set MIC BTN to OFF
 
 That should fix it I think.
 
 73
 
 David Anderson GM4JJJ 
 
 On 7 Jan 2015, at 02:53, David Ahrendts davidahren...@me.com 
 mailto:davidahren...@me.com
 wrote:
 
 Strange one. Trying to make audio in and out connections with my Mac
 Mini and
 my KX3 Line for use with cocoaModem and FLDigi. Mac Mini ?sees the
 Mic, and responds to the RX I/Q stream from the PX3. BUT, when I
 connect the iMic to the KX3 MIC port, it sends the KX3 into a scan
 frequency mode. What am I doing wrong?   David Ahrendts, KC0XT, LA 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0

2015-01-14 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
I have another soft-rock kit coming (I foolishly sold my last one)
I've been thinking about tinkering around around with having the remoting it as 
a bit of a proof of concept.
Now if I can only find the time to put it together. after all the other 
projects that I have simmering





  From: Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org
 To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 5:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0
   
Two channels of 16-bit 192kHz audio compressed with FLAC should use around 
500kbits/s. That is a chunk of bandwidth, but it is fairly reasonable for a 
remote site. Lossy compression would use less bandwidth, but it would put an 
artificial noise floor on the spectrum display. Probably not a good experience.

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/

On Jan 14, 2015, at 1:51 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote:

 I did experiment with this concept a couple of years ago. At the
 remote site, I captured I/Q from a LP-Pan to a sound card, using ulaw,
 and streamed that to the local PC, where I fed it (via VAC, I think)
 into some SDR software (maybe NaP3). It worked, but it was a
 bandwidth-hog. To get 192kHz with 16-bit samples, I think that adds up
 to 6Mbps. I suspect that not many remote sites have that sort of
 upstream b/w available
 
 73,
 
    ~iain / N6ML
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:19 AM,  k...@arrl.net wrote:
 Sorry for my confusion, I was thinking IQ as the usable form of IF at the
 control site, not the raw 8 mHz IF. My idea would be to somehow get the IQ
 output from a LP-Pan or similar device, add another box on either end to
 send and receive the IQ data, then simply use the control stations computer
 soundcard and run your panadapter software of choice. Only problem here is I
 don't have a clue on what to use for the remoting of the IQ output from the
 LP-Pan...
 All this non-portable, not suited for hotel room use would work for me as I
 will be at a desktop computer for 6 months or so while remoting from my
 summer home.
 And of course to not stray from the original topic, it would be nice to
 have the control station use a P3 with the extra data lines intergraded into
 the 1258, or K3/0 mini mark II  :-).
 
 
 73 Jeff kb2m
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred
 Jensen
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 19:59 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0
 
 Hmmm ... K3 1st IF is ~8 MHz.  Could pose some problems for generally
 available somethingoverIP for many people.  I/Q sounds like a better way
 to go with a PX3?  I guess that would require an outboard quadrature demod
 at the real K3.
 
 While I don't do remote stuff right now, we're eventually going to have to
 sell our 5 ac and move to a 1-story house, probably with CCR's.
 Consequently, remote operation may be a part of my future.  Since I got the
 P3, it is the almost total focus of my concentration when operating ... I
 would hate to lose the functionality.
 
 73,
 
 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
 - www.cqp.org
 
 On 1/13/2015 3:27 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
 When you stop and think about it I really wonder if they could make a
 P3/0 For the most part much of the P3 screen does not change at any
 given moment.so if they only send the changes I would venture to say
 that much of it could besent over the wire much as we now send Voice
 Over IP. Using the current chips for multimedia and possible some of
 the open source CODEXsit may be a workable item, though I would expect
 it to me a bit off a pricey option
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0

2015-01-14 Thread Tom Blahovici
One can use the svga and an avermedia hd game broadcaster capture card. You can 
then use their software to stream the video. 
73's Tom

On Jan 14, 2015 4:25 PM, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:

 Jeff and others: 

 I suspect recovering the P3 image remotely may take a bit of 
 engineering as it is meant for local use.  I believe the P3 takes the 
 K3 IF as input (and that is 8.215 MHz wideband RF).  The idea of 
 using the LP-Pan may be better as one has broadband IQ output which 
 could be sent to a soundcard for digitizing and transmission via the 
 remote link in some manner.  That would provide the wideband digital 
 IQ as data at the control station.  One would run their choice of 
 panadaptor sw to view it.  But this would not be the P3 display. 

 Perhaps Elecraft may someday provide digital output from the P3 for 
 remoting?  Obviously the P3 generates this at some point in the ckt. 

 I follow with mild interest.  My concept for a remote station is a 
 full-station built into a toy-hauler trailer with foldover mast to 
 set up antennas.  Then one only needs internet (wifi?) access at the 
 remote site whether that be the cabin or a spare lot somewhere or a 
 friend's backyard.  To be super-mobile remote add a satellite uplink 
 to feed the internet (very common in the bush up here), and ...Think 
 solar power. 

 73, Ed - KL7UW 
 I can see this unit parked in a storage lot someday with me an old 
 codger living in assisted-living with a computer for control; 
 essentially the same situation as someone with CCR. 

 From: k...@arrl.net 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0 
 Message-ID: 004801d02ffc$bda1dc70$38e59550$@net 
 Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii 

   Sorry for my confusion, I was thinking IQ as the usable form of IF at the 
 control site, not the raw 8 mHz IF. My idea would be to somehow get the IQ 
 output from a LP-Pan or similar device, add another box on either end to 
 send and receive the IQ data, then simply use the control stations computer 
 soundcard and run your panadapter software of choice. Only problem here is I 
 don't have a clue on what to use for the remoting of the IQ output from the 
 LP-Pan... 
   All this non-portable, not suited for hotel room use would work for me as I 
 will be at a desktop computer for 6 months or so while remoting from my 
 summer home. 
   And of course to not stray from the original topic, it would be nice to 
 have the control station use a P3 with the extra data lines intergraded into 
 the 1258, or K3/0 mini mark II  :-). 


 73 Jeff kb2m 


 73, Ed - KL7UW 
 http://www.kl7uw.com 
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[Elecraft] Looking for two parts for recently purchased Vibroplex keys

2015-01-14 Thread Roger Marrotte
Looking for two parts for recently purchased Vibroplex keys.

 

1. 1923 Vibroplex Original - need a weight.  Would like one suitable to
that era and in good condition.  The plating on this key is in very good
condition.

2. 1945 Vibroplex  Lightning Bug - Need one nut for the cord binding
post.  This key is in like new condition and so I'm hoping to find one that
looks like new.  Not one of the ones currently being sold by Vibroplex.
They sure don't look anything like the old ones.

 

If anyone has one or both of these items, please contact me off list.

 

I've been practicing with the Lightning bug and will be using it with my K3
soon.  I've had bugs in the past but have been using an iambic key for a
long time.  What a difference.  

 

Thanks,

 

Roger, W1EM

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[Elecraft] NAQCC 160 Meter Sprint Thursday Night

2015-01-14 Thread Larry Makoski
NAQCC 160 Meter Sprint Thursday night!

The January 160 Meter sprint is this coming Thursday evening local time 
(January 15th,
EST - 8:30-10:30PM, CST - 7:30-9:30PM, MST - 6:30-8:30PM, PST - 5:30-7:30PM),
which translates as Friday, January 16th, 0130 to 0330Z in all cases.

For all the official information, please go to:

http://naqcc.info/sprint201501_160.html

There you will find all the details as to time, frequencies and other important
information.

Certificates: SWA (simple wire antennas) certificates by call area, VE and DX
for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place finishers (New!). A Certificate for top score in the
GAIN antenna category.

This is a special event that caters to the CW veteran, the CW newcomer, straight
key and bug fans. All are welcome to participate in this Top Band Sprint - 
1805-1815 kHz.

If you've been hesitant to join in our sprints because you hear other sprints
running at breakneck speeds, have no fear. Our sprints are geared to the
newcomer to CW and/or contesting. Virtually everyone including the many veteran
contesters who regularly enter our sprints will slow down to YOUR speed to help
you make your contacts.

If you are not already a member of NAQCC... membership is FREE! Now is your
chance to join the largest QRP CW Club in the world!! We currently have 7100+
members in: All 50 States - 9 VE Provinces - 100 Countries. Sign up on the
NAQCC website today (http://naqcc.info/) and receive a handsome certificate,
with your membership number on it, which is good for life.

Come join us and have a real good time!

72/73 de Larry W2LJ
NAQCC #35

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0

2015-01-14 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
I did experiment with this concept a couple of years ago. At the
remote site, I captured I/Q from a LP-Pan to a sound card, using ulaw,
and streamed that to the local PC, where I fed it (via VAC, I think)
into some SDR software (maybe NaP3). It worked, but it was a
bandwidth-hog. To get 192kHz with 16-bit samples, I think that adds up
to 6Mbps. I suspect that not many remote sites have that sort of
upstream b/w available

73,

~iain / N6ML


On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:19 AM,  k...@arrl.net wrote:
  Sorry for my confusion, I was thinking IQ as the usable form of IF at the
 control site, not the raw 8 mHz IF. My idea would be to somehow get the IQ
 output from a LP-Pan or similar device, add another box on either end to
 send and receive the IQ data, then simply use the control stations computer
 soundcard and run your panadapter software of choice. Only problem here is I
 don't have a clue on what to use for the remoting of the IQ output from the
 LP-Pan...
  All this non-portable, not suited for hotel room use would work for me as I
 will be at a desktop computer for 6 months or so while remoting from my
 summer home.
  And of course to not stray from the original topic, it would be nice to
 have the control station use a P3 with the extra data lines intergraded into
 the 1258, or K3/0 mini mark II  :-).


 73 Jeff kb2m

 -Original Message-
 From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred
 Jensen
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 19:59 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0

 Hmmm ... K3 1st IF is ~8 MHz.  Could pose some problems for generally
 available somethingoverIP for many people.  I/Q sounds like a better way
 to go with a PX3?  I guess that would require an outboard quadrature demod
 at the real K3.

 While I don't do remote stuff right now, we're eventually going to have to
 sell our 5 ac and move to a 1-story house, probably with CCR's.
 Consequently, remote operation may be a part of my future.  Since I got the
 P3, it is the almost total focus of my concentration when operating ... I
 would hate to lose the functionality.

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
 - www.cqp.org

 On 1/13/2015 3:27 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
 When you stop and think about it I really wonder if they could make a
 P3/0 For the most part much of the P3 screen does not change at any
 given moment.so if they only send the changes I would venture to say
 that much of it could besent over the wire much as we now send Voice
 Over IP. Using the current chips for multimedia and possible some of
 the open source CODEXsit may be a workable item, though I would expect
 it to me a bit off a pricey option

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0

2015-01-14 Thread Walter Underwood
Two channels of 16-bit 192kHz audio compressed with FLAC should use around 
500kbits/s. That is a chunk of bandwidth, but it is fairly reasonable for a 
remote site. Lossy compression would use less bandwidth, but it would put an 
artificial noise floor on the spectrum display. Probably not a good experience.

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/

On Jan 14, 2015, at 1:51 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote:

 I did experiment with this concept a couple of years ago. At the
 remote site, I captured I/Q from a LP-Pan to a sound card, using ulaw,
 and streamed that to the local PC, where I fed it (via VAC, I think)
 into some SDR software (maybe NaP3). It worked, but it was a
 bandwidth-hog. To get 192kHz with 16-bit samples, I think that adds up
 to 6Mbps. I suspect that not many remote sites have that sort of
 upstream b/w available
 
 73,
 
~iain / N6ML
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:19 AM,  k...@arrl.net wrote:
 Sorry for my confusion, I was thinking IQ as the usable form of IF at the
 control site, not the raw 8 mHz IF. My idea would be to somehow get the IQ
 output from a LP-Pan or similar device, add another box on either end to
 send and receive the IQ data, then simply use the control stations computer
 soundcard and run your panadapter software of choice. Only problem here is I
 don't have a clue on what to use for the remoting of the IQ output from the
 LP-Pan...
 All this non-portable, not suited for hotel room use would work for me as I
 will be at a desktop computer for 6 months or so while remoting from my
 summer home.
 And of course to not stray from the original topic, it would be nice to
 have the control station use a P3 with the extra data lines intergraded into
 the 1258, or K3/0 mini mark II  :-).
 
 
 73 Jeff kb2m
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred
 Jensen
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 19:59 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0
 
 Hmmm ... K3 1st IF is ~8 MHz.  Could pose some problems for generally
 available somethingoverIP for many people.  I/Q sounds like a better way
 to go with a PX3?  I guess that would require an outboard quadrature demod
 at the real K3.
 
 While I don't do remote stuff right now, we're eventually going to have to
 sell our 5 ac and move to a 1-story house, probably with CCR's.
 Consequently, remote operation may be a part of my future.  Since I got the
 P3, it is the almost total focus of my concentration when operating ... I
 would hate to lose the functionality.
 
 73,
 
 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
 - www.cqp.org
 
 On 1/13/2015 3:27 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
 When you stop and think about it I really wonder if they could make a
 P3/0 For the most part much of the P3 screen does not change at any
 given moment.so if they only send the changes I would venture to say
 that much of it could besent over the wire much as we now send Voice
 Over IP. Using the current chips for multimedia and possible some of
 the open source CODEXsit may be a workable item, though I would expect
 it to me a bit off a pricey option
 
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[Elecraft] P3 1.34/SVGA 1.21 BETA Firmware available

2015-01-14 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
New BETA firmware for the P3/SVGA is available for download from:  P3/SVGA
BETA FIRMWARE ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/firmware/beta/  

Release notes: 

*MCU 01.34 / 1-8-2015*

* Added support for the SVGA noise blanker.
* Fixed a bug that occasionally caused a hesitation in resuming the display
updates when the K3 stops  transmitting.  
* Improved reliability of K3 commands received via RS-232.
   Eliminates firmware load error with older Mac versions of K3 Utility, and
reduces flash file load time in all cases.

*P3SVGA 01.21 / 1-5-2015*
* Added Noise Blanker.
* Developed a faster method of detecting K3 transmit/receive state changes.
Speeds up display resuming after Tx. 
* Added data terminal ‘send on space’ to the available data TX modes.
* Added replay of keyboard input using Ctrl-Alt-R. Ctrl-C will clear replay
buffer.
* Added ‘\r’ to embed a CR in text message. Use ‘\\’ to send a single ‘\’.
* Added ‘\c’ to embed an incrementing serial counter in a text message.
Clearing/presetting counter may be done in the setup screen (Ctrl-Alt-S).
* Text messages sent in data terminal mode now respect the mode setting
(VOX, CR, ^T).
* Fixed a bug in data terminal mode that was causing the time-out to not
reset correctly.
* Fixed a bug in data terminal mode that was causing non-existent characters
to be retrieved and sent. Also fixes a bug of missing characters.
* Added waterfall cursors, these display exactly as they do on the P3
screen.

73, 

Paul





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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Warm climate for a vacation/be-the-DX winter holiday?

2015-01-14 Thread KarlErb
You could even operate from a site on the water first visited (by a European) 
by James Cook.

Karl, W3BF

Karl Erb
5253 Strathmore Ave
Kensington, MD 20895
301 456 6212

 On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA jeffvk...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Another vote for VK here Jim, we tick all the boxes.
 Maybe a trip to one of the VK9 call areas like maybe Lord Howe or Cocos -
 Keeling Islands?
 There's always northern VK4, VK6  or anywhere in VK8.
 Come and see the rainforests in and around Cairns, head to VK8 for Ularu
 (Ayers Rock), Alice Springs or Darwin or head to northern VK6 and visit
 Broome, Port Headland or go anywhere in between.
 And, if you're hanging out for a bit of snow, head south to Canberra or
 Mount Kosiusko or any other of our snowfields.
 We got it all, there is so much to see and do.
 We speak the lingo, the licencing isn't a hassle, the people are (mostly)
 friendly and it's cheap!
 The US dollar is about $1.20 here and its getting better each day for you
 folk to come on down!
 We'd love to see ya!
 
 Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA
 innisfail, Far North QLD
 Australia (In case you didn't notice) :)
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Warm climate for a vacation/be-the-DX winter holiday?

2015-01-14 Thread Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA
Another vote for VK here Jim, we tick all the boxes.
Maybe a trip to one of the VK9 call areas like maybe Lord Howe or Cocos -
Keeling Islands?
There's always northern VK4, VK6  or anywhere in VK8.
Come and see the rainforests in and around Cairns, head to VK8 for Ularu
(Ayers Rock), Alice Springs or Darwin or head to northern VK6 and visit
Broome, Port Headland or go anywhere in between.
And, if you're hanging out for a bit of snow, head south to Canberra or
Mount Kosiusko or any other of our snowfields.
We got it all, there is so much to see and do.
We speak the lingo, the licencing isn't a hassle, the people are (mostly)
friendly and it's cheap!
The US dollar is about $1.20 here and its getting better each day for you
folk to come on down!
We'd love to see ya!

Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA
innisfail, Far North QLD
Australia (In case you didn't notice) :)




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[Elecraft] K3 synthesizer question

2015-01-14 Thread James Lanier
Just curious. The synthesizer uses a DDS which feeds the PLL circuit. The DDS 
output is filtered through a 4 pole crystal filter to remove spurs. So why use 
a DDS at all? The only thing I can figure is that a DDS always has lower phase 
noise than the DDS reference oscillator. Is this why?

Jim

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 synthesizer question

2015-01-14 Thread Wayne Burdick
The PLL provides coarse tuning steps only. The DDS provides fine tuning steps. 
The DDS crystal filter removes spurs from the DDS, which would otherwise be 
seen in the PLL's output. (Many radios use DDS directly, with no PLL, leading 
to unwanted spurious responses in both RX and TX.)

The PLL's step size is on the order of 20 kHz. Since the DDS filter is much 
narrower, we have to constantly recalculate the PLL divider values as you tune 
the VFO. A lot of magic was required in firmware.

73,
Wayne
N6KW



On Jan 14, 2015, at 3:40 PM, James Lanier lanier...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just curious. The synthesizer uses a DDS which feeds the PLL circuit. The DDS 
 output is filtered through a 4 pole crystal filter to remove spurs. So why 
 use a DDS at all? The only thing I can figure is that a DDS always has lower 
 phase noise than the DDS reference oscillator. Is this why?
 
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Re: [Elecraft] W1 versus WM1

2015-01-14 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

I believe that is the case.

73,
Eric
elecraft.com

On 1/13/2015 8:34 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

A typo that was repeated through the document and made its way to being 
labelled on the PCB!!

That is some typo.  Check the docs and I doubt you will think them as a typo.  
Seems like a lot of opinions of people who think this is some other product of 
another company or a mistake.  But the document is still on the Elecraft web 
site and can be read.

The user guide has a date of 2006 and there is also a data sheet along with 
other mini-modules from Elecraft.  It is listed for $89.95.



I am convinced it was the older name of the W1.  Maybe some Elecraft person can 
confirm.

PEH's iPad



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Warm climate for a vacation/be-the-DX winter holiday?

2015-01-14 Thread Gary Gregory
..orcruise into Innisfail...yeah i said cruise.it is always
raining and if by chace it is notheck just sit fer a minute or three
and it will bucket down to make up for its bad manners by not greeting you
with a drenchingGrin

G'day Jefflol

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 15/01/2015 10:06 AM, KarlErb karle...@gmail.com wrote:

 You could even operate from a site on the water first visited (by a
 European) by James Cook.

 Karl, W3BF

 Karl Erb
 5253 Strathmore Ave
 Kensington, MD 20895
 301 456 6212

  On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA jeffvk...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Another vote for VK here Jim, we tick all the boxes.
  Maybe a trip to one of the VK9 call areas like maybe Lord Howe or Cocos -
  Keeling Islands?
  There's always northern VK4, VK6  or anywhere in VK8.
  Come and see the rainforests in and around Cairns, head to VK8 for Ularu
  (Ayers Rock), Alice Springs or Darwin or head to northern VK6 and visit
  Broome, Port Headland or go anywhere in between.
  And, if you're hanging out for a bit of snow, head south to Canberra or
  Mount Kosiusko or any other of our snowfields.
  We got it all, there is so much to see and do.
  We speak the lingo, the licencing isn't a hassle, the people are (mostly)
  friendly and it's cheap!
  The US dollar is about $1.20 here and its getting better each day for you
  folk to come on down!
  We'd love to see ya!
 
  Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA
  innisfail, Far North QLD
  Australia (In case you didn't notice) :)
 
 
 
 
  -
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  Innisfail, QLD, Australia.
  K3 #4767
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0

2015-01-14 Thread Vic Rosenthal
My idea was similar -- a box containing a transceiver and wireless link with an 
antenna on top. All you would need to provide is power (could be solar) and 
wireless signal (could be 3G).
The box could be placed on the roof of your house, a nearby tall building, or a 
mountain peak. Think terrestrial satellite.

Vic K2VCO /4X6GP 

 On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:25 PM, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:
 
 Jeff and others:
 
 I suspect recovering the P3 image remotely may take a bit of engineering as 
 it is meant for local use.  I believe the P3 takes the K3 IF as input (and 
 that is 8.215 MHz wideband RF).  The idea of using the LP-Pan may be better 
 as one has broadband IQ output which could be sent to a soundcard for 
 digitizing and transmission via the remote link in some manner.  That would 
 provide the wideband digital IQ as data at the control station.  One would 
 run their choice of panadaptor sw to view it.  But this would not be the P3 
 display.
 
 Perhaps Elecraft may someday provide digital output from the P3 for remoting? 
  Obviously the P3 generates this at some point in the ckt.
 
 I follow with mild interest.  My concept for a remote station is a 
 full-station built into a toy-hauler trailer with foldover mast to set up 
 antennas.  Then one only needs internet (wifi?) access at the remote site 
 whether that be the cabin or a spare lot somewhere or a friend's backyard.  
 To be super-mobile remote add a satellite uplink to feed the internet (very 
 common in the bush up here), and ...Think solar power.
 
 73, Ed - KL7UW
 I can see this unit parked in a storage lot someday with me an old codger 
 living in assisted-living with a computer for control; essentially the same 
 situation as someone with CCR.
 
 From: k...@arrl.net
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0
 Message-ID: 004801d02ffc$bda1dc70$38e59550$@net
 Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii
 
 Sorry for my confusion, I was thinking IQ as the usable form of IF at the
 control site, not the raw 8 mHz IF. My idea would be to somehow get the IQ
 output from a LP-Pan or similar device, add another box on either end to
 send and receive the IQ data, then simply use the control stations computer
 soundcard and run your panadapter software of choice. Only problem here is I
 don't have a clue on what to use for the remoting of the IQ output from the
 LP-Pan...
 All this non-portable, not suited for hotel room use would work for me as I
 will be at a desktop computer for 6 months or so while remoting from my
 summer home.
 And of course to not stray from the original topic, it would be nice to
 have the control station use a P3 with the extra data lines intergraded into
 the 1258, or K3/0 mini mark II  :-).
 
 
 73 Jeff kb2m
 
 
 73, Ed - KL7UW
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[Elecraft] Travel with ham radio gear

2015-01-14 Thread John Fritze
My son flew today from Maryland DC to Puerto Rico with no problems.

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[Elecraft] DXpedition to Bonaire ... Questions

2015-01-14 Thread Eugene Worth
OK, folks … I’ve spent a couple of months gathering equipment, testing, 
packing, and unpacking radio stuff. Leaving at the end of next week for 
Bonaire, Netherlands Antilles. 

Headlines today, as a result of the terrorist activities and threats, talks of 
very high alerts for domestic and foreign travel. So, does anyone have opinions 
about the wisdom of taking radio/antenna equipment right now?

Thanks in advance. (My inclination at this point is that it will not be worth 
the hassle factor at this point in time. There will be other times … I usually 
go annually in late January.)

gene
WG7GW


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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition to Bonaire ... Questions

2015-01-14 Thread Nick Kemp
Take it and don't worry.  Be prepared to power it (if it is battery 
powered) as you go through security if you carry it on the plane. They 
may ask a few questions about it... many times simply out of curiosity. 
  Checking it via luggage  may cause it to get an extra check but you 
won't know until you get your luggage.  Inventory everything in the 
luggage and take pictures of equipment if you are concerned about theft. 
Don't lock your luggage other than the locks that TSA and everyone else 
who wants one has a key for.  Check airline insurance coverage to be 
sure it is fully covered (Ham radio equip is expensive) in the event of 
theft. It may be worth paying for additional coverage if needed.


About 4.5 million people fly per day and that does not change 
significantly as the results of recent events.  Although the news would 
have you believe that nothing else in the world is going on besides what 
they broadcast, for the most part you won't even notice as you travel.


Nick
N1KMP



Eugene Worth wrote on 1/14/2015 9:33 AM:

...So, does anyone have opinions about the wisdom of taking radio/antenna 
equipment right now?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 mini

2015-01-14 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka

Yes, but it's not as portable as you'd think. I have the whole remoterig
set up and I'm remoting a whole foot. It actually frees up a lot of
space on my desk.

On Wed, 14 Jan 2015, W2BLC wrote:

Does anyone use the K3/0 mini as a movable faceplate on their main desk? If 
so, how is it connected to the K3?


Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition to Bonaire ... Questions

2015-01-14 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt, II
No problem. I do it all the time. Just expect it to be searched and have your 
papers granting permission to bring your equipment in handy. You may need them 


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
 
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC
Staunton, Illinois
 
Owner – Operator
Villa Grand Piton
Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.
Rent it at: http://www.vrbo.com/487375
 
email:  b...@wjschmidt.com
 

 On Jan 14, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Eugene Worth erw@gmail.com wrote:
 
 OK, folks … I’ve spent a couple of months gathering equipment, testing, 
 packing, and unpacking radio stuff. Leaving at the end of next week for 
 Bonaire, Netherlands Antilles. 
 
 Headlines today, as a result of the terrorist activities and threats, talks 
 of very high alerts for domestic and foreign travel. So, does anyone have 
 opinions about the wisdom of taking radio/antenna equipment right now?
 
 Thanks in advance. (My inclination at this point is that it will not be worth 
 the hassle factor at this point in time. There will be other times … I 
 usually go annually in late January.)
 
 gene
 WG7GW
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] 8 or5 Pole cw filters

2015-01-14 Thread Jim Brown

On Wed,1/14/2015 12:21 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

With the 8 pole CW filters there is a not so obvious method to the
madness here. We do the same thing as Jim with the 250 filter, but
here's some more stuff to add to the discussion.


Thanks for that additional advice, Guy. Much appreciated.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition to Bonaire ... Questions

2015-01-14 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt, II
Never been asked to power my radio on in at least 25 Caribbean trips. 


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
 
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC
Staunton, Illinois
 
Owner – Operator
Villa Grand Piton
Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.
Rent it at: http://www.vrbo.com/487375
 
email:  b...@wjschmidt.com
 

 On Jan 14, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Nick Kemp nkemp1...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Take it and don't worry.  Be prepared to power it (if it is battery powered) 
 as you go through security if you carry it on the plane. They may ask a few 
 questions about it... many times simply out of curiosity.   Checking it via 
 luggage  may cause it to get an extra check but you won't know until you get 
 your luggage.  Inventory everything in the luggage and take pictures of 
 equipment if you are concerned about theft. Don't lock your luggage other 
 than the locks that TSA and everyone else who wants one has a key for.  Check 
 airline insurance coverage to be sure it is fully covered (Ham radio equip is 
 expensive) in the event of theft. It may be worth paying for additional 
 coverage if needed.
 
 About 4.5 million people fly per day and that does not change significantly 
 as the results of recent events.  Although the news would have you believe 
 that nothing else in the world is going on besides what they broadcast, for 
 the most part you won't even notice as you travel.
 
 Nick
 N1KMP
 
 
 
 Eugene Worth wrote on 1/14/2015 9:33 AM:
 ...So, does anyone have opinions about the wisdom of taking radio/antenna 
 equipment right now?
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 mini

2015-01-14 Thread W2BLC
Does that mean all the wires and hardware that would be used for a real 
remote operation are needed just to get the faceplate on the desk for 
ease of use? Please explain - it has been very difficult to get this 
question answered.


Thanks,

Bill W2BLC K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition to Bonaire ... Questions

2015-01-14 Thread charlie carroll
Gene:
Take the radio. I traveled regularly to Bonaire for 4 or 5 years without
any difficulty.  For a change, last February I went to Montserrat with
my K3 and a suitcase full of antenna stuff.  The only problem was
leaving Montserrat when the young lady running the x-ray machine wanted
to inspect my suitcase.  I'm sure she had no clue what all the wires,
switches, etc. did, but she went through every little piece.  The K3 in
the pelican case didn't rate a second glance.

This past November I went to St. Croix and carried my K3 in a back pack
and an Alpha 76 in a pelican case.  When leaving KP2, they actually
pulled the K3 from my back pack, but when I said it was ham radio, the
TSA agent's eyes sort of lit up.  Seems ham radio was something he
wanted to try, so no problems.  The Alpha in the pelican case wasn't
challenged.  FWIW, I carry the Alpha's power transformer in a small
igloo cooler as a carry on.  That didn't rate more than a cursory look.

No one has ever asked me to turn on the K3. A friend does a lot of the
same traveling with equipment, and he's never been challenged to turn
anything on.

73 charlie, k1xx

On 1/14/2015 10:33 AM, Eugene Worth wrote:
 OK, folks … I’ve spent a couple of months gathering equipment, testing, 
 packing, and unpacking radio stuff. Leaving at the end of next week for 
 Bonaire, Netherlands Antilles. 

 Headlines today, as a result of the terrorist activities and threats, talks 
 of very high alerts for domestic and foreign travel. So, does anyone have 
 opinions about the wisdom of taking radio/antenna equipment right now?

 Thanks in advance. (My inclination at this point is that it will not be worth 
 the hassle factor at this point in time. There will be other times … I 
 usually go annually in late January.)

 gene
 WG7GW


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[Elecraft] [K3] NaP3 / CW Skimmer integration using only K3 as RX

2015-01-14 Thread John Shadle
Hi all,
I know that I have seen a blog post by a non-US ham about doing this, but I
can't seem to locate concrete instructions on his site or elsewhere.

My setup is as follows.
- K3
- LP-Bridge to share serial ports for rig control and logging
- LP-PAN using NaP3
- E-MU 0202 USB sound card

NaP3 works fine with this setup, but I can't get CW Skimmer to load while
NaP3 is running. Once I shut down NaP3, I can run CW Skimmer with no issues.

Anyone have tips on how to use both NaP3 as well as CW Skimmer
simultaneously with this setup?

Thanks!
-john W4PAH
Madison, WI
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Re: [Elecraft] 8 or5 Pole cw filters

2015-01-14 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:
 250 Hz filter set to switch in at 350 Hz, and I do most CW operation with a
 250 Hz IF setting. These are settings you can play with.

With the 8 pole CW filters there is a not so obvious method to the
madness here. We do the same thing as Jim with the 250 filter, but
here's some more stuff to add to the discussion.

The K3 8 pole filters are electrically the same as the 8 MHz IF INRAD
filters used in the FT1000MP. They went together with 455 kHz IF
filters also called 400 and 250. In series, they produced a 400 and
250 Hz CW overall bandwidth of exceptional sharpness and a combined
floor below the noise floor of most measuring instruments. In the K3,
the 455 kHz filters are replaced by the K3's DSP, and the 8 MHz
filters are now the roofing filters in a different mounting. Wayne
chose to retain the FT1000MP nomenclature for the filters, 400 and
250.

Used by themselves as they are in the K3, the 400 Hz is really a
440, and the 250 Hz is really a 330 Hz. I switch in the 400 Hz at
450 and the 250 at 350. This is a filter choice and setting adopted
by all the K3 bringers who operate NY3A multi-op in the CW contests,
including N4AF who lives there, and has a pair of K3's.

With the 400 and 250 offset tweaked to center them on the DSP
passband, the combined passband at 450 and 350 will transform a key
click to a spike, which the K3 handles nicely. The K3, with DSB NB set
to dSP t2-7 or t3.7, IF NB off, and CONFIG: AGC PLS set to nor, with
those filters and width settings one can nearly eliminate key clicks,
even from a loud station up or down only 400 Hz.

This is contesting-developed information, but it works well in any
setting. The roofing filter plus DSP is almost, but not quite as sharp
a passband as the MP's cascaded 8MHz/455 kHz filter combo. But it
takes a lab instrument to tell the difference, and the K3's DSP and
firmware driven features open up a whole new world for contesting
beyond the MP series. Before the K3, the MP was THE contesting radio.

I would note that in crowded contesting conditions, you pretty much
have to use a filter which matches the DSP setting. What gets by the
roofing filter can engage the defensive hardware AGC which is there
to keep input to the analog to digital conversion in the sweet range
of the AD device. This can become a problem with very loud signals
right at the edge of the DSP passband, if the roofing filter is not
close in bandwidth.

73 and good luck, Guy K2AV
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] 8 or 5 Pole cw filters

2015-01-14 Thread Gary W. Hvizdak
K8XF writes ...

As a cw opr ... I would like to know ...

Hi Mike,

1)  If you are considering using the optional sub-RX for diversity
reception, then you might prefer INRAD's 8-pole filters simply because they
are already matched, i.e. their center frequencies are much tighter than
Elecraft's 5-pole filters.  (We're talking about tens of Hz for the INRAD
filters compare to more like a kHz for the Elecraft filters!)

2)  All SSB, CW, and digital TX is done via the normal SSB filter (either
2.8 kHz 8-pole or 2.7 kHz 5-pole).  Thus many guys will choose the 8-pole
2.8 kHz filter, that it might produce a slightly cleaner transmitted CW
signal.  This is more important if you run 500 Watts as opposed to 10 Watts.

3)  Due to the K3's architecture, it is sometimes desirable to have a
crystal filter whose width is close to your DSP passband setting.
Specifically when working a weak signal that's close to a strong one.
Otherwise, if the strong signal is inside the passband of your crystal
filter, it can cause AGC pumping and render the weak signal unreadable.
Your needs in this regard will depend on local band conditions.

4)  INRAD's 250 Hz filter is actually closer to 370 Hz wide at 6 dB down,
while their 400 Hz filter is about 435 Hz wide.  That's a difference of
roughly 21%, which IMHO is too similar to justify installing both.

5)  In addition to the INRAD CW filters offered by Elecraft (1000 Hz, 400
Hz, and 250 Hz), INRAD also offers 500 Hz via their website.  See
http://www.inrad.net/home.php?cat=140 

6)  In addition to the INRAD CW filters offered by Elecraft and INRAD,
WB2ART and I also offer 700 Hz.  Note that this is a special order item
which is currently in stock, but which usually entails a preorder waiting
list and a 14-week manufacturing lead-time.  See http://www.unpcbs.com  

7)  I suspect that guys who have the P3 (panadapter) tend to set a tighter
passband and in turn prefer narrower crystal filters.

73,
Gary  KI4GGX
webmaster, unpcbs.com

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0

2015-01-14 Thread kb2m
 Sorry for my confusion, I was thinking IQ as the usable form of IF at the
control site, not the raw 8 mHz IF. My idea would be to somehow get the IQ
output from a LP-Pan or similar device, add another box on either end to
send and receive the IQ data, then simply use the control stations computer
soundcard and run your panadapter software of choice. Only problem here is I
don't have a clue on what to use for the remoting of the IQ output from the
LP-Pan...
 All this non-portable, not suited for hotel room use would work for me as I
will be at a desktop computer for 6 months or so while remoting from my
summer home.
 And of course to not stray from the original topic, it would be nice to
have the control station use a P3 with the extra data lines intergraded into
the 1258, or K3/0 mini mark II  :-).
 

73 Jeff kb2m 

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred
Jensen
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 19:59 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 all in one box? + P3/0

Hmmm ... K3 1st IF is ~8 MHz.  Could pose some problems for generally
available somethingoverIP for many people.  I/Q sounds like a better way
to go with a PX3?  I guess that would require an outboard quadrature demod
at the real K3.

While I don't do remote stuff right now, we're eventually going to have to
sell our 5 ac and move to a 1-story house, probably with CCR's. 
Consequently, remote operation may be a part of my future.  Since I got the
P3, it is the almost total focus of my concentration when operating ... I
would hate to lose the functionality.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 1/13/2015 3:27 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
 When you stop and think about it I really wonder if they could make a
 P3/0 For the most part much of the P3 screen does not change at any 
 given moment.so if they only send the changes I would venture to say 
 that much of it could besent over the wire much as we now send Voice 
 Over IP. Using the current chips for multimedia and possible some of 
 the open source CODEXsit may be a workable item, though I would expect 
 it to me a bit off a pricey option

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[Elecraft] NIFTY MINI MANUAL FOR K2

2015-01-14 Thread Alan KB7MBI via Elecraft
Could someone tell me what the NIFTY MINI MANUAL FOR K2  contains?There 
appears to be very little discussion in  the ARCHIVES. I recently bought a 
used K2 and it would be helpful to have  some sort of guide for set up of 
the radio and operating shortcuts
 
Alan KB7MBI
Woodinville, WA
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[Elecraft] K3/0 mini

2015-01-14 Thread W2BLC
Does anyone use the K3/0 mini as a movable faceplate on their main desk? 
If so, how is it connected to the K3?


Bill W2BLC K-Line

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