Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

[Stewart]

Don,
Got fed up of all the years either pulling equipment or desks out to get at 
cables. Fixing one upset others...

New shack has desk permanently 2 ft away from the wall so I can walk behind it 
and fix things.

Deep Joy !!!

73
Stewart G3RXQ

On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 19:10:04 -0500, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Gary,
>
> In the "olden days", we did not have such clutter.  If one is willing to
> do paper logging, there is no need for a computer connection and if we
> stick to SSB and CW, we only need a microphone and a key - KISS
> principle, and no extra cables except for the mic and key cables.
>
> Problem is that we 'want it all', and so the cable clutter expands
> without bounds as each additional device is introduced.
> I am planning a new operating desk that can be pulled away from the wall
> so I can access the rear of the equipment and hopefully keep those
> 'extra' cables neat and tidy.  It may be a while before that is realized.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 12/16/2015 6:57 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Well, being that I am 24/7 in my Motorhome, I want the KIOB upgrade to help 
reduce the , dare I say, clutter at the back of my wireless. Hmm, that's a 
misnomer...
>> Santa has informed me he is running late and my KIOB will not be delivered 
till the 1st quarter, 2016.
>> Guess he knows Eric well.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

[MontyS]

Another approach...

Shack in closet.  Bathroom behind develops water leak.  Pull shack desk to 
remove wet wall.  Fix rats nest of cables behind monitor.  Get power strips 
for all the power cubes. Repair plumbing and wall.  Push desk back.


Monty K2DLJ

I am planning a new operating desk that can be pulled away from the wall
so I can access the rear of the equipment and hopefully keep those
'extra' cables neat and tidy.  It may be a while before that is realized.

73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

[K9ZTV]

I bought 3 executive desks from Walmart, arranged them in a U-shape, and put 
them in the center of the room.  I put the equipment (modern and vintage) 
facing outward.  Cables and cords are hidden by the gear, yet easily accessable 
inside the U (and by walking upright, too).  No crawling under, no pulling 
anything out, no opening windows.  Coax,  AC, and 4-inch copper strap come up 
through the floor, inside the U. 

73,

Kent  K9ZTV



> 
> I am planning a new operating desk that can be pulled away from the wall
> so I can access the rear of the equipment and hopefully keep those 'extra' 
> cables neat and tidy.


> 
> 
> Here in Arizona, I have the desk in my shack against two side-by-side 
> windows.  I can access all equipment and cables from outside.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Got fed up of all the years either pulling equipment or desks out to get at 
>> cables. Fixing one upset others...
>> 
>> New shack has desk permanently 2 ft away from the wall so I can walk behind 
>> it 
>> and fix things.
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[Dr. William J. Schmidt, II]

Hi Eric, thanks for the reply.  For me, the K3IOB is not an upgrade, per se, 
but a necessary part to get my broken K3 on an island in the Caribbean fixed.  
Alas, my K3 shall remain broken for a few more months while I await a stock of 
replacement parts (a few months because I only get there every few months at 
best).  I guess I’ll bring my Icom 756 Pro II along with me on the plane 
tomorrow.  So much for my (highly touted, and maybe not so permanent) K3.

 

 

Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ 

 

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

 

Owner – Operator

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Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

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From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 7:51 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: Dr. William J. Schmidt, II 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

 

Hi Bill (and everyone else interested in the KIO3B upgrade),

Unfortunately pulling the KIO3B boards out of a packaged K3S kit or already 
built K3S is not practical, and would really cause production problems here. We 
build the assembled K3S base units ahead of time before option configuration, 
and for kits, the KIO3B boards are inside of sealed boxes of kitted product 
packaged ahead of time.

We are also fully maxed out getting December orders out the door for last 
minute shoppers, presents etc. 

Fortunately, we will begin taking orders for the KIO3B board set the week after 
next - after the holiday rush. This will probably on either the 29th or 30th, 
and we expect to begin shipments 5-10 days after that. We should have the extra 
KIO3B boards in-house and tested by then. 

Please do not try to order or call before we announce that the order form is up 
as we do not have the web order form or internal order systems ready to handle 
KIO3B upgrade orders. (We prefer on-line orders to avoid phone overload here..) 
We are also maxed handling the holiday order rush. 

We will post here on the Elecraft List and of course on our web page as soon as 
we are ready to take orders and the order form is up and running. 

We're running as fast as we can - Its a busy month at Elecraft this time of 
year. 

73,
Eric

elecraft.com

On 12/16/2015 8:03 AM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote:

I feel a bit responsible for this thread and it needs to end. The issue for me 
is that my radio is at my place on J6 where my electronics lab is not. I have 
three options:  1. Bring the radio back and fix it, 2. Try to fix it down there 
(with very minimal resources), or 3. Bring a new part down with me to swap out 
and trouble shoot the broken part back here in the states.  Ordering a new KIO3 
would be less than smart.
 
I decided last night i would simply order a new K3s, tell Elecraft to hot shot 
the KIO3B out of it and keep the radio/ send the radio with a replacement KIO3B 
when they become available (months from now, i don't care).  Theres more than 
one way to skin this cat!
 
 
Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
 
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC
Staunton, Illinois
 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

[K9ZTV]

I bought 3 executive desks from Walmart, arranged them in a U-shape, and put 
them in the center of the room.  I put the equipment (modern and vintage) 
facing outward.  Cables and cords are hidden by the gear, yet easily accessable 
inside the U (and by walking upright, too).  No crawling under, no pulling 
anything out, no opening windows.  Coax,  AC , and 4-inch copper strap come up 
through the fl



> 
> I am planning a new operating desk that can be pulled away from the wall
> so I can access the rear of the equipment and hopefully keep those 'extra' 
> cables neat and tidy.
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Re: [Elecraft] No transmit on 12m in split??

[Don Wilhelm]

Getting VFO B to the same mode as VFO A is easy enough if you are in the 
habit of first tapping A>B,  tap it twice.
First tap transfers the frequency, the 2nd tap transfers the mode, 
filters, etc.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/17/2015 7:00 AM, Gary Smith wrote:

G'mornin'

With my K3, if I earlier had been split
and the mode was different like RTTY or
SSB and this current mode is CW, it won't
transmit cross mode. Be sure both sides of
the split are the same mode, the K3
(assuming that is what you have) remembers
your last settings per band.




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Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

[Walter Underwood]

Years ago, HP made computer room furniture with a cable tray underneath the 
back edge. It was wonderful.

You can buy cable trays now and add them to your desk.

http://www.cableorganizer.com/under-desk-cable-tray/ 

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/30200253/ 

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/our-favorite-cord-control-gutters-and-trays-174720
 


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> On Dec 17, 2015, at 3:36 AM, Robert Nobis  wrote:
> 
> Here in Arizona, I have the desk in my shack against two side-by-side 
> windows.  I can access all equipment and cables from outside.  
> 
> 73,
> 
> 
> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
> n7...@nobis.net
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 01:10, Stewart  wrote:
>> 
>> Don,
>> Got fed up of all the years either pulling equipment or desks out to get at 
>> cables. Fixing one upset others...
>> 
>> New shack has desk permanently 2 ft away from the wall so I can walk behind 
>> it 
>> and fix things.
>> 
>> Deep Joy !!!
>> 
>> 73
>> Stewart G3RXQ
>> 
>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 19:10:04 -0500, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> Gary,
>>> 
>>> In the "olden days", we did not have such clutter.  If one is willing to
>>> do paper logging, there is no need for a computer connection and if we
>>> stick to SSB and CW, we only need a microphone and a key - KISS
>>> principle, and no extra cables except for the mic and key cables.
>>> 
>>> Problem is that we 'want it all', and so the cable clutter expands
>>> without bounds as each additional device is introduced.
>>> I am planning a new operating desk that can be pulled away from the wall
>>> so I can access the rear of the equipment and hopefully keep those
>>> 'extra' cables neat and tidy.  It may be a while before that is realized.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>> 
>>> On 12/16/2015 6:57 PM, Gary wrote:
 Well, being that I am 24/7 in my Motorhome, I want the KIOB upgrade to 
 help 
>> reduce the , dare I say, clutter at the back of my wireless. Hmm, that's a 
>> misnomer...
 Santa has informed me he is running late and my KIOB will not be delivered 
>> till the 1st quarter, 2016.
 Guess he knows Eric well.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[Phil Hystad]

I thought of doing something with Python and SDR I/Q processing but never got 
around
to doing anything.  But, I decided it would be far easier to use Mathematica 
(for what I
want do to) rather than Python even though I would probably have to cobble 
together an
interface to pull out the I/Q data stream and feed to Mathematica (unless 
someone has
already done this).

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:12 AM, a45wg  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>Is anyone doing any SDR I/Q processing using Python with the KX3 ?
> 
>I am trying to get some traction with this - but finding little info in 
> terms of Elecraft - plenty in the rtl-sdr however
> 
>Thanks for the valuable info contained here
> 
>  Tim - A45WG
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[Per-Tore Aasestrand]

Interesting!

Will Mathematica be able to handle the data-stream in real-time?

73

P-T / LA7NO


On 17 December 2015 at 17:29, Phil Hystad  wrote:

> I thought of doing something with Python and SDR I/Q processing but never
> got around
> to doing anything.  But, I decided it would be far easier to use
> Mathematica (for what I
> want do to) rather than Python even though I would probably have to cobble
> together an
> interface to pull out the I/Q data stream and feed to Mathematica (unless
> someone has
> already done this).
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
>
>
> > On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:12 AM, a45wg  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >Is anyone doing any SDR I/Q processing using Python with the KX3 ?
> >
> >I am trying to get some traction with this - but finding little info
> in terms of Elecraft - plenty in the rtl-sdr however
> >
> >Thanks for the valuable info contained here
> >
> >  Tim - A45WG
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[Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[a45wg]

Hi,
Is anyone doing any SDR I/Q processing using Python with the KX3 ?

I am trying to get some traction with this - but finding little info in 
terms of Elecraft - plenty in the rtl-sdr however

Thanks for the valuable info contained here

  Tim - A45WG
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[Phil Hystad]

Probably not in real time but I am actually not sure of that.  Mathematica 
already supports
a pretty descent range of devices to feed data real-time.  Not sure if it could 
handle the bulk
of real time of actual signal frequencies.  Also, Mathematica runs on Raspberry 
Pi and supports
a number of data interfaces as a result of that work (part of their device 
support).

However, my interest is not real-time.  I am more interested in studying the 
math part of
digital signal processing.  That is what Mathematica is good at doing.  I have 
ZERO (capitalized
for great emphasis) interest in making my own SDR, after all, I have a KX3 (and 
most other
rigs made by Elecraft).

I have used Mathematica for many different projects over the last 15 years and 
some of those were
gigantic number crunching projects for work.  But, now that I am retired, I 
have the Home Edition
of Mathematica (actually two copies, one for the iMac and one for the Macbook 
Pro) and I use
it for physics calculations, antenna analysis (I built a runtime interface to 
NEC4), and even game
playing such as solving Sudoku puzzles and playing chess.  It is a great 
functional and pattern
matching language besides the big “curated” data interface it now supports 
(from the work
of WolframAlpha).

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Per-Tore Aasestrand  wrote:
> 
> Interesting!
> 
> Will Mathematica be able to handle the data-stream in real-time?
> 
> 73
> 
> P-T / LA7NO
> 
> 
> On 17 December 2015 at 17:29, Phil Hystad  > wrote:
> I thought of doing something with Python and SDR I/Q processing but never got 
> around
> to doing anything.  But, I decided it would be far easier to use Mathematica 
> (for what I
> want do to) rather than Python even though I would probably have to cobble 
> together an
> interface to pull out the I/Q data stream and feed to Mathematica (unless 
> someone has
> already done this).
> 
> 73, phil, K7PEH
> 
> 
> > On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:12 AM, a45wg  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >Is anyone doing any SDR I/Q processing using Python with the KX3 ?
> >
> >I am trying to get some traction with this - but finding little info in 
> > terms of Elecraft - plenty in the rtl-sdr however
> >
> >Thanks for the valuable info contained here
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Cable runs [was: KIOB]

[G4GNX - Alan]

I am building a new shack in the roof space, using drywall. I plan to keep 
all cables suspended on cable trays or hooks on the outside of the walls, in 
the void where there is sufficient space for me to access them.


73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Nobis

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:36 AM
To: Stewart
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net ; Richard - HB9ANM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

Here in Arizona, I have the desk in my shack against two side-by-side 
windows.  I can access all equipment and cables from outside.


73,


Bob Nobis - N7RJN
n7...@nobis.net

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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[Ed Muns]

If you have a K3 with a broken KIO3 or KIO3A, why did you refuse my offer to
send you a KIO3A last week?  It is used but operationally fine.

This addresses your stated problem and you still have the option to replace
it with a "new" assembly when the KIO3B is available.

Ed W0YK



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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dr.
William J. Schmidt, II
Sent: 17 December, 2015 06:18
To: 'Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

Hi Eric, thanks for the reply.  For me, the K3IOB is not an upgrade, per se,
but a necessary part to get my broken K3 on an island in the Caribbean
fixed.  Alas, my K3 shall remain broken for a few more months while I await
a stock of replacement parts (a few months because I only get there every
few months at best).  I guess I'll bring my Icom 756 Pro II along with me on
the plane tomorrow.  So much for my (highly touted, and maybe not so
permanent) K3.

 

 

Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ 

 

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch - K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

 

Owner - Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:   www.VillaGrandPiton.com

 

email:    b...@wjschmidt.com

 

From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 7:51 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: Dr. William J. Schmidt, II 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

 

Hi Bill (and everyone else interested in the KIO3B upgrade),

Unfortunately pulling the KIO3B boards out of a packaged K3S kit or already
built K3S is not practical, and would really cause production problems here.
We build the assembled K3S base units ahead of time before option
configuration, and for kits, the KIO3B boards are inside of sealed boxes of
kitted product packaged ahead of time.

We are also fully maxed out getting December orders out the door for last
minute shoppers, presents etc. 

Fortunately, we will begin taking orders for the KIO3B board set the week
after next - after the holiday rush. This will probably on either the 29th
or 30th, and we expect to begin shipments 5-10 days after that. We should
have the extra KIO3B boards in-house and tested by then. 

Please do not try to order or call before we announce that the order form is
up as we do not have the web order form or internal order systems ready to
handle KIO3B upgrade orders. (We prefer on-line orders to avoid phone
overload here..) We are also maxed handling the holiday order rush. 

We will post here on the Elecraft List and of course on our web page as soon
as we are ready to take orders and the order form is up and running. 

We're running as fast as we can - Its a busy month at Elecraft this time of
year. 

73,
Eric

elecraft.com

On 12/16/2015 8:03 AM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote:

I feel a bit responsible for this thread and it needs to end. The issue for
me is that my radio is at my place on J6 where my electronics lab is not. I
have three options:  1. Bring the radio back and fix it, 2. Try to fix it
down there (with very minimal resources), or 3. Bring a new part down with
me to swap out and trouble shoot the broken part back here in the states.
Ordering a new KIO3 would be less than smart.
 
I decided last night i would simply order a new K3s, tell Elecraft to hot
shot the KIO3B out of it and keep the radio/ send the radio with a
replacement KIO3B when they become available (months from now, i don't
care).  Theres more than one way to skin this cat!
 
 
Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
 
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch - K9ZC
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[Walter Underwood]

Octave seems to be the popular tool for these problems.

https://www.gnu.org/software/octave/

David Rowe, VK5DGR, has been using this for his digital voice development work.

http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?page_id=452

wunder
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> On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Per-Tore Aasestrand  wrote:
> 
> Interesting!
> 
> Will Mathematica be able to handle the data-stream in real-time?
> 
> 73
> 
> P-T / LA7NO
> 
> 
> On 17 December 2015 at 17:29, Phil Hystad  wrote:
> 
>> I thought of doing something with Python and SDR I/Q processing but never
>> got around
>> to doing anything.  But, I decided it would be far easier to use
>> Mathematica (for what I
>> want do to) rather than Python even though I would probably have to cobble
>> together an
>> interface to pull out the I/Q data stream and feed to Mathematica (unless
>> someone has
>> already done this).
>> 
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:12 AM, a45wg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>   Is anyone doing any SDR I/Q processing using Python with the KX3 ?
>>> 
>>>   I am trying to get some traction with this - but finding little info
>> in terms of Elecraft - plenty in the rtl-sdr however
>>> 
>>>   Thanks for the valuable info contained here
>>> 
>>> Tim - A45WG
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[Per-Tore Aasestrand]

Hi Phil,

I agree with your points of view.
Mathematica and Wolfram are marvellous tools.

For real-time work I have had som successes using NI LabVIEW. Could be that
it can be suitable for the signal proessing required for this application.

73,

Per-Tore/LA7NO


On 17 December 2015 at 18:32, Phil Hystad  wrote:

> Probably not in real time but I am actually not sure of that.  Mathematica
> already supports
> a pretty descent range of devices to feed data real-time.  Not sure if it
> could handle the bulk
> of real time of actual signal frequencies.  Also, Mathematica runs on
> Raspberry Pi and supports
> a number of data interfaces as a result of that work (part of their device
> support).
>
> However, my interest is not real-time.  I am more interested in studying
> the math part of
> digital signal processing.  That is what Mathematica is good at doing.  I
> have ZERO (capitalized
> for great emphasis) interest in making my own SDR, after all, I have a KX3
> (and most other
> rigs made by Elecraft).
>
> I have used Mathematica for many different projects over the last 15 years
> and some of those were
> gigantic number crunching projects for work.  But, now that I am retired,
> I have the Home Edition
> of Mathematica (actually two copies, one for the iMac and one for the
> Macbook Pro) and I use
> it for physics calculations, antenna analysis (I built a runtime interface
> to NEC4), and even game
> playing such as solving Sudoku puzzles and playing chess.  It is a great
> functional and pattern
> matching language besides the big “curated” data interface it now supports
> (from the work
> of WolframAlpha).
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Per-Tore Aasestrand  wrote:
>
> Interesting!
>
> Will Mathematica be able to handle the data-stream in real-time?
>
> 73
>
> P-T / LA7NO
>
>
> On 17 December 2015 at 17:29, Phil Hystad  wrote:
>
>> I thought of doing something with Python and SDR I/Q processing but never
>> got around
>> to doing anything.  But, I decided it would be far easier to use
>> Mathematica (for what I
>> want do to) rather than Python even though I would probably have to
>> cobble together an
>> interface to pull out the I/Q data stream and feed to Mathematica (unless
>> someone has
>> already done this).
>>
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:12 AM, a45wg  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >Is anyone doing any SDR I/Q processing using Python with the KX3 ?
>> >
>> >I am trying to get some traction with this - but finding little info
>> in terms of Elecraft - plenty in the rtl-sdr however
>> >
>> >Thanks for the valuable info contained here
>> >
>> >  Tim - A45WG
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Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

I don't have a mic. cable or a key cable.

I run digital modes.  Thanks to the computer, I no longer need a 28KSR 
or a TU.


On 12/17/2015 9:14 AM, Michael Schulz wrote:

I call shenanigans on that less clutter because of no computer


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Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

[Michael Schulz]

I call shenanigans on that less clutter because of no computer :) The number
of cables in my shack related directly to the
radio (I don't even do SSB) far outnumbers the computer related cables. 
Paper logging? Seems to work wonders in contests ;) *cough dupes cough*


73 Mike K5TRI

> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don
> Wilhelm
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:10 PM
> To: Gary ; Richard - HB9ANM
> ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIOB
> 
> Gary,
> 
> In the "olden days", we did not have such clutter.  If one is willing to
do paper
> logging, there is no need for a computer connection and if we stick to SSB
> and CW, we only need a microphone and a key - KISS principle, and no extra
> cables except for the mic and key cables.
> 
> Problem is that we 'want it all', and so the cable clutter expands without
> bounds as each additional device is introduced.
> I am planning a new operating desk that can be pulled away from the wall
so I
> can access the rear of the equipment and hopefully keep those 'extra'
cables
> neat and tidy.  It may be a while before that is realized.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 12/16/2015 6:57 PM, Gary wrote:
> > Well, being that I am 24/7 in my Motorhome, I want the KIOB upgrade to
> help reduce the , dare I say, clutter at the back of my wireless. Hmm,
that's a
> misnomer...
> > Santa has informed me he is running late and my KIOB will not be
delivered
> till the 1st quarter, 2016.
> > Guess he knows Eric well.
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[wb4jfi]

Check out the Tiny Python Panadaptor (April 2014 QST).  There is also a Tiny 
Python Panadaptor Yahoo group.  It runs a panadaptor (and waterfall) in 
Python on either a Raspberry Pi or Beaglebone Black with a KX3.  It does I/Q 
processing from whatever small sound card in Linux.  It can also do rig 
control if you can figure out how to do that on the BBB.  Pi is easier.


I'm not sure why the Elecraft would be any different than any other 
sound-card based I/Q processing - such as a Softrock.  I do realize that the 
rtl-sdr is quite different as far as inputting samples, however.  What 
platform are you using?  Windows, Linux, Apple?

73, Terry, N4TLF


-Original Message- 
From: a45wg

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:12 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

Hi,
   Is anyone doing any SDR I/Q processing using Python with the KX3 ?

   I am trying to get some traction with this - but finding little info in 
terms of Elecraft - plenty in the rtl-sdr however


   Thanks for the valuable info contained here

 Tim - A45WG
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[a45wg]

Terry,

I have been following the Tiny Pan article - but there seems to be little 
actual code - more of a set of good Modules/Libraries to use.

I can use Linux/Max as far as OS goes…. I am a Software Engineer by trade - but 
SDR is not my bread and butter.

Tim


> On 17 Dec 2015, at 21:17,   wrote:
> 
> Check out the Tiny Python Panadaptor (April 2014 QST).  There is also a Tiny 
> Python Panadaptor Yahoo group.  It runs a panadaptor (and waterfall) in 
> Python on either a Raspberry Pi or Beaglebone Black with a KX3.  It does I/Q 
> processing from whatever small sound card in Linux.  It can also do rig 
> control if you can figure out how to do that on the BBB.  Pi is easier.
> 
> I'm not sure why the Elecraft would be any different than any other 
> sound-card based I/Q processing - such as a Softrock.  I do realize that the 
> rtl-sdr is quite different as far as inputting samples, however.  What 
> platform are you using?  Windows, Linux, Apple?
> 73, Terry, N4TLF
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: a45wg
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:12 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python
> 
> Hi,
>   Is anyone doing any SDR I/Q processing using Python with the KX3 ?
> 
>   I am trying to get some traction with this - but finding little info in 
> terms of Elecraft - plenty in the rtl-sdr however
> 
>   Thanks for the valuable info contained here
> 
> Tim - A45WG
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S 15KHz output?

[Wayne Burdick]

Bob,

The K3 and K3S have an internal 15-kHz (nominal) 2nd IF that goes to the DSP. 
But this is not a quadrature signal like in the KX3, and it also follows the 
crystal filter, so it is very narrow band.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Dec 17, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Bob Novas  wrote:

> Far as I can tell, there is no 15KHz output from the K3S that can be used
> for experimenting with SDR. Is that correct? Thanks, Bob W3DK
> 
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[Elecraft] SDRPlay + HDSDR on K3S (was RE: K3S 15KHz output?)

[Michael Schulz]

Has anybody made the SDRPlay with HDSDR work as a pan adapter using the IF
out? When I tried to use HDSDR
in IF mode, it complained that the IF frequency was too low (current version
of the driver), so I had to resort to 
using the RX ant in/out with the SDRPlay, which works but is not the most
elegant solution.

73 Mike K5TRI

> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don
> Wilhelm
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 1:17 PM
> To: bob.no...@verizon.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S 15KHz output?
> 
> Bob,
> 
> No 15 kHz output, but better for SDR experimenting, use the IF output at
> 8.215 MHz.  That gives you a output that is prior to any IF filters in the
K3S.
> If you want baseband I/Q outputs, you can connect a softrock receiver or
> LPpan2 to that IF output.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 12/17/2015 3:57 PM, Bob Novas wrote:
> > Far as I can tell, there is no 15KHz output from the K3S that can be
> > used for experimenting with SDR. Is that correct? Thanks, Bob W3DK
> >
> >
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[Elecraft] K3S 15KHz output?

[Bob Novas]

Far as I can tell, there is no 15KHz output from the K3S that can be used
for experimenting with SDR. Is that correct? Thanks, Bob W3DK

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[Bill Frantz]

ShinySDR  is written in 
Python. Its design goal is to have a nice user interface. It is 
compatible with RTL-SDR. See also .


73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/17/15 at 8:12 AM, a4...@sy-edm.com (a45wg) wrote:


Is anyone doing any SDR I/Q processing using Python with the KX3 ?

I am trying to get some traction with this - but finding little 
info in terms of Elecraft - plenty in the rtl-sdr however


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S 15KHz output?

[Don Wilhelm]

Bob,

No 15 kHz output, but better for SDR experimenting, use the IF output at 
8.215 MHz.  That gives you a output that is prior to any IF filters in 
the K3S.
If you want baseband I/Q outputs, you can connect a softrock receiver or 
LPpan2 to that IF output.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/17/2015 3:57 PM, Bob Novas wrote:

Far as I can tell, there is no 15KHz output from the K3S that can be used
for experimenting with SDR. Is that correct? Thanks, Bob W3DK




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Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[Hajo Dezelski]

Hi,

same experience
...
that spending more time on the python
version did not make sense.
...
A
at all.

73 de
Hajo DL1SDZ

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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[Dr. William J. Schmidt, II]

Your offer was most gracious, but i have no desire to tear into this thing 
multiple times for the same problem. 

I have a solution so all this discussion is for not. Will use my Icom 756 Pro 
II. 


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
 
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC
Staunton, Illinois
 
Owner – Operator
Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ
Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.
Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com

email:  b...@wjschmidt.com
 

> On Dec 17, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Ed Muns  wrote:
> 
> If you have a K3 with a broken KIO3 or KIO3A, why did you refuse my offer to
> send you a KIO3A last week?  It is used but operationally fine.
> 
> This addresses your stated problem and you still have the option to replace
> it with a "new" assembly when the KIO3B is available.
> 
> Ed W0YK
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dr.
> William J. Schmidt, II
> Sent: 17 December, 2015 06:18
> To: 'Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft'
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B
> 
> Hi Eric, thanks for the reply.  For me, the K3IOB is not an upgrade, per se,
> but a necessary part to get my broken K3 on an island in the Caribbean
> fixed.  Alas, my K3 shall remain broken for a few more months while I await
> a stock of replacement parts (a few months because I only get there every
> few months at best).  I guess I'll bring my Icom 756 Pro II along with me on
> the plane tomorrow.  So much for my (highly touted, and maybe not so
> permanent) K3.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> email:    b...@wjschmidt.com
> 
> 
> 
> From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 7:51 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Cc: Dr. William J. Schmidt, II 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Bill (and everyone else interested in the KIO3B upgrade),
> 
> Unfortunately pulling the KIO3B boards out of a packaged K3S kit or already
> built K3S is not practical, and would really cause production problems here.
> We build the assembled K3S base units ahead of time before option
> configuration, and for kits, the KIO3B boards are inside of sealed boxes of
> kitted product packaged ahead of time.
> 
> We are also fully maxed out getting December orders out the door for last
> minute shoppers, presents etc. 
> 
> Fortunately, we will begin taking orders for the KIO3B board set the week
> after next - after the holiday rush. This will probably on either the 29th
> or 30th, and we expect to begin shipments 5-10 days after that. We should
> have the extra KIO3B boards in-house and tested by then. 
> 
> Please do not try to order or call before we announce that the order form is
> up as we do not have the web order form or internal order systems ready to
> handle KIO3B upgrade orders. (We prefer on-line orders to avoid phone
> overload here..) We are also maxed handling the holiday order rush. 
> 
> We will post here on the Elecraft List and of course on our web page as soon
> as we are ready to take orders and the order form is up and running. 
> 
> We're running as fast as we can - Its a busy month at Elecraft this time of
> year. 
> 
> 73,
> Eric
> 
> elecraft.com
> 
> On 12/16/2015 8:03 AM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote:
> 
> I feel a bit responsible for this thread and it needs to end. The issue for
> me is that my radio is at my place on J6 where my electronics lab is not. I
> have three options:  1. Bring the radio back and fix it, 2. Try to fix it
> down there (with very minimal resources), or 3. Bring a new part down with
> me to swap out and trouble shoot the broken part back here in the states.
> Ordering a new KIO3 would be less than smart.
> 
> I decided last night i would simply order a new K3s, tell Elecraft to hot
> shot the KIO3B out of it and keep the radio/ send the radio with a
> replacement KIO3B when they become available (months from now, i don't
> care).  Theres more than one way to skin this cat!
> 
> 
> Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
> 
> Owner - Operator
> Big Signal Ranch - K9ZC
> Staunton, Illinois
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[Bob N3MNT]

I implemented the BBB tiny python Panadapter. It was straight forward and
worked very well.. I used it until the PX3 was available,  The PX3 is so
well integrated in the KX3 system that spending more time on the python
version did not make sense.  



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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[Robert Nobis]

Jim,

Well said. A great overview of a great company and great radio.

73,


Bob Nobis - N7RJN
n7...@nobis.net


> On Dec 17, 2015, at 21:53, Jim Ewing  wrote:
> 
> Regarding posts reflecting impatience with KIO3B deliveries, other
> displeasure:  I don't agree with you.  I have owned my K3 for about 2
> months, after researching matters fully and finally making my decision to
> buy.  As a benchmark, I also collect and operate Collins radios, which are
> works of art and evoke the character, talent, vision and elegance of Art
> Collins.  I love my K3 and greatly admire Elecraft for reasons that
> parallel why I love Collins radios and the legacy of Art Collins.  In at
> least these respects:
> 
> 
> 
> 1.Elecraft are people who clearly build these radios as a labor
> of love.  They operate cw (sometimes during lunch break!), do QRP, hike and
> accordingly know what’s needed to build radios that are a joy to operate –
> even outdoors and on the trail where radios are put to the greatest test.
> They come from a long line of great radios, having built the NorCal 40 and
> the Sierra, among other great radios.  I can tell from the craftsmanship,
> design, attention to detail and ergonomics, that my K3 is a labor of love.
> 
> 
> 
> 2.I admire their story.  I admire how Wayne Burdick left his
> day job to start this company, and how Eric also bet his assets on the
> venture as well.  They believe in and love what they do, and my K3 sitting
> in my shack always reminds me of that powerful story.  They are not
> beholden to the bankers who might encourage more massive production, corner
> cutting and expediency, next-Q profit mentality over quality.  They have
> the discipline to avoid spreading themselves too thin.  They have the
> courage to keep their focus on doing things well, even if that sometimes
> means we have to wait.  Sometimes, as here, good things come to people who
> wait.
> 
> 
> 
> 3.Their manual is well written, well organized, cogent, and
> pleasing-to-read – some of the best technical prose I have ever read (this
> I can say after practicing telecoms patent law for 33 years).  The manual
> is not just some random listing of buttons and features like you see in
> other manufacturers’ manuals, but rather reflects the thought, care and
> organization of someone who has put himself or herself in the operator’s
> shoes.
> 
> 
> 
> 4.As a builder, I appreciate the thought, competence and
> innovation reflected in how their circuits are designed, for maximum
> performance and reliability, and minimal power consumption.  I also think
> it’s great they don’t seem to feel compelled to hire a Jony Ive for the
> latest cosmetic design in order to sell radios.
> 
> 
> 
> 5.Their customer support is orders of magnitude above everyone
> else.  The other night, for example, I sent an email about some error
> messages I was getting, and Elecraft responded with the correct fix early
> the next morning.  Turns out I had inadvertently, in boneheaded fashion,
> hit the Config button and changed a setting.  The level of care, tact and
> patience reflected in the email, on top of the raw technical competence,
> were not lost on me.
> 
> 
> 
> 6.That said, I am doubly dismayed, saddened and annoyed when my
> reflector message list is fouled with the whining of people who seem blind
> to these great radios and this great company.  People who whine because
> they want whatever *right now *so they can dash off to their island without
> delay, who are cheesed because the knobs are not sufficiently shiny, who
> seem affronted by the notion of having to open their radio up to add some
> of the amazing boards and circuits offered by this best-of-planet company
> because it might mar the paint job.  I am reminded of that New Yorker
> cartoon some years ago that shows a Met Patron standing in front of a Monet
> and complaining, reflecting more on herself than on the artist.  Would you
> people please *just stop*?
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> Jim Ewing
> 
> N4TMM
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[Gary Gregory]

Simply stated facts. Thanks Jim for the well written response.

Regards,
Gary

On 18 December 2015 at 15:25, Robert Nobis  wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Well said. A great overview of a great company and great radio.
>
> 73,
>
>
> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
> n7...@nobis.net
>
>
> > On Dec 17, 2015, at 21:53, Jim Ewing  wrote:
> >
> > Regarding posts reflecting impatience with KIO3B deliveries, other
> > displeasure:  I don't agree with you.  I have owned my K3 for about 2
> > months, after researching matters fully and finally making my decision to
> > buy.  As a benchmark, I also collect and operate Collins radios, which
> are
> > works of art and evoke the character, talent, vision and elegance of Art
> > Collins.  I love my K3 and greatly admire Elecraft for reasons that
> > parallel why I love Collins radios and the legacy of Art Collins.  In at
> > least these respects:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.Elecraft are people who clearly build these radios as a
> labor
> > of love.  They operate cw (sometimes during lunch break!), do QRP, hike
> and
> > accordingly know what’s needed to build radios that are a joy to operate
> –
> > even outdoors and on the trail where radios are put to the greatest test.
> > They come from a long line of great radios, having built the NorCal 40
> and
> > the Sierra, among other great radios.  I can tell from the craftsmanship,
> > design, attention to detail and ergonomics, that my K3 is a labor of
> love.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2.I admire their story.  I admire how Wayne Burdick left his
> > day job to start this company, and how Eric also bet his assets on the
> > venture as well.  They believe in and love what they do, and my K3
> sitting
> > in my shack always reminds me of that powerful story.  They are not
> > beholden to the bankers who might encourage more massive production,
> corner
> > cutting and expediency, next-Q profit mentality over quality.  They have
> > the discipline to avoid spreading themselves too thin.  They have the
> > courage to keep their focus on doing things well, even if that sometimes
> > means we have to wait.  Sometimes, as here, good things come to people
> who
> > wait.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3.Their manual is well written, well organized, cogent, and
> > pleasing-to-read – some of the best technical prose I have ever read
> (this
> > I can say after practicing telecoms patent law for 33 years).  The manual
> > is not just some random listing of buttons and features like you see in
> > other manufacturers’ manuals, but rather reflects the thought, care and
> > organization of someone who has put himself or herself in the operator’s
> > shoes.
> >
> >
> >
> > 4.As a builder, I appreciate the thought, competence and
> > innovation reflected in how their circuits are designed, for maximum
> > performance and reliability, and minimal power consumption.  I also think
> > it’s great they don’t seem to feel compelled to hire a Jony Ive for the
> > latest cosmetic design in order to sell radios.
> >
> >
> >
> > 5.Their customer support is orders of magnitude above
> everyone
> > else.  The other night, for example, I sent an email about some error
> > messages I was getting, and Elecraft responded with the correct fix early
> > the next morning.  Turns out I had inadvertently, in boneheaded fashion,
> > hit the Config button and changed a setting.  The level of care, tact and
> > patience reflected in the email, on top of the raw technical competence,
> > were not lost on me.
> >
> >
> >
> > 6.That said, I am doubly dismayed, saddened and annoyed when
> my
> > reflector message list is fouled with the whining of people who seem
> blind
> > to these great radios and this great company.  People who whine because
> > they want whatever *right now *so they can dash off to their island
> without
> > delay, who are cheesed because the knobs are not sufficiently shiny, who
> > seem affronted by the notion of having to open their radio up to add some
> > of the amazing boards and circuits offered by this best-of-planet company
> > because it might mar the paint job.  I am reminded of that New Yorker
> > cartoon some years ago that shows a Met Patron standing in front of a
> Monet
> > and complaining, reflecting more on herself than on the artist.  Would
> you
> > people please *just stop*?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim Ewing
> >
> > N4TMM
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[wb7ond]

I have recently discovered gnuradio companion.
http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki
Mike Ossmann has some tutorials here:
https://greatscottgadgets.com/sdr/
and youtube has some good gnuradio tutorials.
Drag and drop boxes, set properties etc. build your own
sdr interface..  Have not tried it with KX3.  Have not looked
for KX3 libraries..  

Dick
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Re: [Elecraft] No transmit on 12m in split??

[Gary Smith]

G'mornin'

With my K3, if I earlier had been split 
and the mode was different like RTTY or 
SSB and this current mode is CW, it won't 
transmit cross mode. Be sure both sides of 
the split are the same mode, the K3 
(assuming that is what you have) remembers 
your last settings per band.

73,

Gary
KA1J

> Hi,
> You´d think I´d know the radio by nowToday I wanted to answer a DX on 12m 
> at 24960 up 5.  Put the radio in split and went to transmit.  No output.  
> Tuned off split to test, no problem.  Tried this on other bands, no problem.  
> It´s just on 12m! Anybody know what´s up?
> Thanks, va2fsq
> va2fsq.com

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Re: [Elecraft] WTB K2 KAF2 audio Filter

[Joe Vrabel]

Thanks for the reply.  I found one. 73



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Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

[Robert Nobis]

Here in Arizona, I have the desk in my shack against two side-by-side windows.  
I can access all equipment and cables from outside.  

73,


Bob Nobis - N7RJN
n7...@nobis.net


> On Dec 17, 2015, at 01:10, Stewart  wrote:
> 
> Don,
> Got fed up of all the years either pulling equipment or desks out to get at 
> cables. Fixing one upset others...
> 
> New shack has desk permanently 2 ft away from the wall so I can walk behind 
> it 
> and fix things.
> 
> Deep Joy !!!
> 
> 73
> Stewart G3RXQ
> 
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 19:10:04 -0500, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Gary,
>> 
>> In the "olden days", we did not have such clutter.  If one is willing to
>> do paper logging, there is no need for a computer connection and if we
>> stick to SSB and CW, we only need a microphone and a key - KISS
>> principle, and no extra cables except for the mic and key cables.
>> 
>> Problem is that we 'want it all', and so the cable clutter expands
>> without bounds as each additional device is introduced.
>> I am planning a new operating desk that can be pulled away from the wall
>> so I can access the rear of the equipment and hopefully keep those
>> 'extra' cables neat and tidy.  It may be a while before that is realized.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> On 12/16/2015 6:57 PM, Gary wrote:
>>> Well, being that I am 24/7 in my Motorhome, I want the KIOB upgrade to help 
> reduce the , dare I say, clutter at the back of my wireless. Hmm, that's a 
> misnomer...
>>> Santa has informed me he is running late and my KIOB will not be delivered 
> till the 1st quarter, 2016.
>>> Guess he knows Eric well.
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[a45wg]

David,
Octave is very good - however some of the functions are not fully 
implemented under Ubuntu - especially those trying to resolve FFT at scale 
(CW-Skimmer type functionality).

Regards

Tim




> On 17 Dec 2015, at 21:06, Walter Underwood  wrote:
> 
> Octave seems to be the popular tool for these problems.
> 
> https://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
> 
> David Rowe, VK5DGR, has been using this for his digital voice development 
> work.
> 
> http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?page_id=452
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Per-Tore Aasestrand  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting!
>> 
>> Will Mathematica be able to handle the data-stream in real-time?
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> P-T / LA7NO
>> 
>> 
>> On 17 December 2015 at 17:29, Phil Hystad  wrote:
>> 
>>> I thought of doing something with Python and SDR I/Q processing but never
>>> got around
>>> to doing anything.  But, I decided it would be far easier to use
>>> Mathematica (for what I
>>> want do to) rather than Python even though I would probably have to cobble
>>> together an
>>> interface to pull out the I/Q data stream and feed to Mathematica (unless
>>> someone has
>>> already done this).
>>> 
>>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:12 AM, a45wg  wrote:
 
 Hi,
  Is anyone doing any SDR I/Q processing using Python with the KX3 ?
 
  I am trying to get some traction with this - but finding little info
>>> in terms of Elecraft - plenty in the rtl-sdr however
 
  Thanks for the valuable info contained here
 
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[Elecraft] FS: K3/10

[n1ix]

 

 

 

Decided that I am too old to learn how to do SO2R so my second K3 is for
sale. 

 

K3/10 for sale. This K3 was originally set up for with for with a 2 meter
transverter. Excellent like new condition. Recent serial #8353, KAT3
Internal ATU with 2nd antenna jack, KXV3A IF out and Xverter interface,
KFL3A-250HP 250 HZ 8 pole cw/data filter KFL3A-400HP 400 HZ 8 pole cw/data
filter KFL3A-2.7K 2.7kHZ filter (standard) KTCX03-1 TCXO 1PPM High Stability
Osc K3EXREF Ext Freq ref input. 
$1825 with CW filters
$1650 without CW filters
plus shipping from 03858. Paypal ok or MO. 

Will ship Internatinal Paypal only.

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[Elecraft] KIO3B

[James Wilson]

[Elecraft] KIO3B


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>If you have a K3 with a broken KIO3 or KIO3A, why did you >refuse my offer to
>send you a KIO3A last week?  It is used but operationally >fine.

>This addresses your stated problem and you still have the >option to replace
>it with a "new" assembly when the KIO3B is available.

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>From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>] On >Behalf Of Dr.
>William J. Schmidt, II
>Sent: 17 December, 2015 06:18
>To: 'Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft'
>Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

>Hi Eric, thanks for the reply.  For me, the K3IOB is not an >upgrade, per se,
>but a necessary part to get my broken K3 on an island in the >Caribbean
>fixed.  Alas, my K3 shall remain broken
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S 15KHz output?

[Jeff Schmidt]

Not to hijack this thread, but has anyone used the IF out of a K3(s) w/ 
a Funcube Dongle Pro+?


Jeff KC9WSJ

On 12/17/2015 3:16 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Bob,

No 15 kHz output, but better for SDR experimenting, use the IF output 
at 8.215 MHz.  That gives you a output that is prior to any IF filters 
in the K3S.
If you want baseband I/Q outputs, you can connect a softrock receiver 
or LPpan2 to that IF output.


73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

[wb4jfi]

Thanks for the info Bob.  Did you implement rig control with the BBB/TPP and 
KX3?  If so, could we chat off the reflector, as I've had a hard time 
getting rig control to work with the BBB, due to serial port issues.  Not a 
problem with the Pi/BBB, but the BBB seems to be more difficult, especially 
if you don't want to use the debug serial port.


I seem to be out of funds at the moment, and already have the BBB/TPP, so a 
PX3 will have to wait.

Thanks & 73, Terry, N4TLF


-Original Message- 
From: Bob N3MNT

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 4:44 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from KX3 in Python

I implemented the BBB tiny python Panadapter. It was straight forward and
worked very well.. I used it until the PX3 was available,  The PX3 is so
well integrated in the KX3 system that spending more time on the python
version did not make sense.



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[Elecraft] KIO3B

[Jim Ewing]

Regarding posts reflecting impatience with KIO3B deliveries, other
displeasure:  I don't agree with you.  I have owned my K3 for about 2
months, after researching matters fully and finally making my decision to
buy.  As a benchmark, I also collect and operate Collins radios, which are
works of art and evoke the character, talent, vision and elegance of Art
Collins.  I love my K3 and greatly admire Elecraft for reasons that
parallel why I love Collins radios and the legacy of Art Collins.  In at
least these respects:



1.Elecraft are people who clearly build these radios as a labor
of love.  They operate cw (sometimes during lunch break!), do QRP, hike and
accordingly know what’s needed to build radios that are a joy to operate –
even outdoors and on the trail where radios are put to the greatest test.
They come from a long line of great radios, having built the NorCal 40 and
the Sierra, among other great radios.  I can tell from the craftsmanship,
design, attention to detail and ergonomics, that my K3 is a labor of love.



2.I admire their story.  I admire how Wayne Burdick left his
day job to start this company, and how Eric also bet his assets on the
venture as well.  They believe in and love what they do, and my K3 sitting
in my shack always reminds me of that powerful story.  They are not
beholden to the bankers who might encourage more massive production, corner
cutting and expediency, next-Q profit mentality over quality.  They have
the discipline to avoid spreading themselves too thin.  They have the
courage to keep their focus on doing things well, even if that sometimes
means we have to wait.  Sometimes, as here, good things come to people who
wait.



3.Their manual is well written, well organized, cogent, and
pleasing-to-read – some of the best technical prose I have ever read (this
I can say after practicing telecoms patent law for 33 years).  The manual
is not just some random listing of buttons and features like you see in
other manufacturers’ manuals, but rather reflects the thought, care and
organization of someone who has put himself or herself in the operator’s
shoes.



4.As a builder, I appreciate the thought, competence and
innovation reflected in how their circuits are designed, for maximum
performance and reliability, and minimal power consumption.  I also think
it’s great they don’t seem to feel compelled to hire a Jony Ive for the
latest cosmetic design in order to sell radios.



5.Their customer support is orders of magnitude above everyone
else.  The other night, for example, I sent an email about some error
messages I was getting, and Elecraft responded with the correct fix early
the next morning.  Turns out I had inadvertently, in boneheaded fashion,
hit the Config button and changed a setting.  The level of care, tact and
patience reflected in the email, on top of the raw technical competence,
were not lost on me.



6.That said, I am doubly dismayed, saddened and annoyed when my
reflector message list is fouled with the whining of people who seem blind
to these great radios and this great company.  People who whine because
they want whatever *right now *so they can dash off to their island without
delay, who are cheesed because the knobs are not sufficiently shiny, who
seem affronted by the notion of having to open their radio up to add some
of the amazing boards and circuits offered by this best-of-planet company
because it might mar the paint job.  I am reminded of that New Yorker
cartoon some years ago that shows a Met Patron standing in front of a Monet
and complaining, reflecting more on herself than on the artist.  Would you
people please *just stop*?



Thank you.



Jim Ewing

N4TMM
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[David Glasser]

Bravo.
Well said.
I could not agree more!!
David Glasser

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2015, at 22:54, Jim Ewing  wrote:
> 
> Regarding posts reflecting impatience with KIO3B deliveries, other
> displeasure:  I don't agree with you.  I have owned my K3 for about 2
> months, after researching matters fully and finally making my decision to
> buy.  As a benchmark, I also collect and operate Collins radios, which are
> works of art and evoke the character, talent, vision and elegance of Art
> Collins.  I love my K3 and greatly admire Elecraft for reasons that
> parallel why I love Collins radios and the legacy of Art Collins.  In at
> least these respects:
> 
> 
> 
> 1.Elecraft are people who clearly build these radios as a labor
> of love.  They operate cw (sometimes during lunch break!), do QRP, hike and
> accordingly know what’s needed to build radios that are a joy to operate –
> even outdoors and on the trail where radios are put to the greatest test.
> They come from a long line of great radios, having built the NorCal 40 and
> the Sierra, among other great radios.  I can tell from the craftsmanship,
> design, attention to detail and ergonomics, that my K3 is a labor of love.
> 
> 
> 
> 2.I admire their story.  I admire how Wayne Burdick left his
> day job to start this company, and how Eric also bet his assets on the
> venture as well.  They believe in and love what they do, and my K3 sitting
> in my shack always reminds me of that powerful story.  They are not
> beholden to the bankers who might encourage more massive production, corner
> cutting and expediency, next-Q profit mentality over quality.  They have
> the discipline to avoid spreading themselves too thin.  They have the
> courage to keep their focus on doing things well, even if that sometimes
> means we have to wait.  Sometimes, as here, good things come to people who
> wait.
> 
> 
> 
> 3.Their manual is well written, well organized, cogent, and
> pleasing-to-read – some of the best technical prose I have ever read (this
> I can say after practicing telecoms patent law for 33 years).  The manual
> is not just some random listing of buttons and features like you see in
> other manufacturers’ manuals, but rather reflects the thought, care and
> organization of someone who has put himself or herself in the operator’s
> shoes.
> 
> 
> 
> 4.As a builder, I appreciate the thought, competence and
> innovation reflected in how their circuits are designed, for maximum
> performance and reliability, and minimal power consumption.  I also think
> it’s great they don’t seem to feel compelled to hire a Jony Ive for the
> latest cosmetic design in order to sell radios.
> 
> 
> 
> 5.Their customer support is orders of magnitude above everyone
> else.  The other night, for example, I sent an email about some error
> messages I was getting, and Elecraft responded with the correct fix early
> the next morning.  Turns out I had inadvertently, in boneheaded fashion,
> hit the Config button and changed a setting.  The level of care, tact and
> patience reflected in the email, on top of the raw technical competence,
> were not lost on me.
> 
> 
> 
> 6.That said, I am doubly dismayed, saddened and annoyed when my
> reflector message list is fouled with the whining of people who seem blind
> to these great radios and this great company.  People who whine because
> they want whatever *right now *so they can dash off to their island without
> delay, who are cheesed because the knobs are not sufficiently shiny, who
> seem affronted by the notion of having to open their radio up to add some
> of the amazing boards and circuits offered by this best-of-planet company
> because it might mar the paint job.  I am reminded of that New Yorker
> cartoon some years ago that shows a Met Patron standing in front of a Monet
> and complaining, reflecting more on herself than on the artist.  Would you
> people please *just stop*?
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> Jim Ewing
> 
> N4TMM
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[Ken G Kopp]

Another "Well said" !

Next, do yourself a favor and get a copy of the KE7X book covering the K3.

73!

Ken - K0PP
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