Re: [Elecraft] XMIT button not working?

2016-09-27 Thread Gary
I got left at the on ramp
:-)

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To: "Ed Muns" 
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] XMIT button not working?

This I do not understand. - j

On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Ed Muns  wrote:

> Interesting because it worked fine for me all week.
>
> 73,
> Ed W0YK
> On Sep 27, 2016 9:02 PM, Jeff Stai  > wrote:
>
> Well, Wayne says it doesn't work anymore. I think I will program a
> writelog message for one letter. Close enough. 73 jeff wk6i
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Ed Muns  > wrote:
>
> I'm on the latest K3 firmware (5.52?) and the XMIT button continues to
> work as it always has in all modes, including RTTY.
>
> I can't think of what would cause it not to work and display 'N/A'.  I
> doubt it is unique to the K3s.
> On Sep 27, 2016 4:02 PM, ab2tc  > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Nobody has responded to this so I'll hop in with what I know.
> >
> > Apparently the XMIT button was disabled for all data modes in firmware
> > version 5.47 and all later versions. This has nothing to do with K3/K3S;
> > both are affected.
> >
> > AB2TC - Knut
> >
> >
> > jeff stai-2 wrote
> > > hi - I'm used to using this button to nudge the amp into auto tune/band
> > > change by toggling it on and off briefly. I am in data/FSK mode. It
> works
> > > fine on the older K3 but for some reason on the K3S I am getting an
> "N/A"
> > > on the display and nothing happens. Why would I be getting N/A?
> > >
> > > Thanks and 73 jeff wk6i
> > >
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Re: [Elecraft] XMIT button not working?

2016-09-27 Thread Jeff Stai
This I do not understand. - j

On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Ed Muns  wrote:

> Interesting because it worked fine for me all week.
>
> 73,
> Ed W0YK
> On Sep 27, 2016 9:02 PM, Jeff Stai  > wrote:
>
> Well, Wayne says it doesn't work anymore. I think I will program a
> writelog message for one letter. Close enough. 73 jeff wk6i
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Ed Muns  > wrote:
>
> I'm on the latest K3 firmware (5.52?) and the XMIT button continues to
> work as it always has in all modes, including RTTY.
>
> I can't think of what would cause it not to work and display 'N/A'.  I
> doubt it is unique to the K3s.
> On Sep 27, 2016 4:02 PM, ab2tc  > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Nobody has responded to this so I'll hop in with what I know.
> >
> > Apparently the XMIT button was disabled for all data modes in firmware
> > version 5.47 and all later versions. This has nothing to do with K3/K3S;
> > both are affected.
> >
> > AB2TC - Knut
> >
> >
> > jeff stai-2 wrote
> > > hi - I'm used to using this button to nudge the amp into auto tune/band
> > > change by toggling it on and off briefly. I am in data/FSK mode. It
> works
> > > fine on the older K3 but for some reason on the K3S I am getting an
> "N/A"
> > > on the display and nothing happens. Why would I be getting N/A?
> > >
> > > Thanks and 73 jeff wk6i
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeff Stai ~
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] XMIT button not working?

2016-09-27 Thread Jeff Stai
On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Nr4c  wrote:

> Wayne did not say "It doesn't work anymore. ". He said it no longer works
> with DATA submodes PSK D & FSK D.


What else matters?

73 jeff wk6i


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>
> > On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:02 AM, Jeff Stai  > wrote:
> >
> > Well, Wayne says it doesn't work anymore. I think I will program a
> writelog
> > message for one letter. Close enough. 73 jeff wk6i
> >
> >
> >> On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Ed Muns >
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm on the latest K3 firmware (5.52?) and the XMIT button continues to
> >> work as it always has in all modes, including RTTY.
> >>
> >> I can't think of what would cause it not to work and display 'N/A'.  I
> >> doubt it is unique to the K3s.
> >>> On Sep 27, 2016 4:02 PM, ab2tc 
> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Nobody has responded to this so I'll hop in with what I know.
> >>>
> >>> Apparently the XMIT button was disabled for all data modes in firmware
> >>> version 5.47 and all later versions. This has nothing to do with
> K3/K3S;
> >>> both are affected.
> >>>
> >>> AB2TC - Knut
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> jeff stai-2 wrote
>  hi - I'm used to using this button to nudge the amp into auto
> tune/band
>  change by toggling it on and off briefly. I am in data/FSK mode. It
> >> works
>  fine on the older K3 but for some reason on the K3S I am getting an
> >> "N/A"
>  on the display and nothing happens. Why would I be getting N/A?
> 
>  Thanks and 73 jeff wk6i
> 
>  --
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Re: [Elecraft] XMIT button not working?

2016-09-27 Thread Ed Muns

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Re: [Elecraft] XMIT button not working?

2016-09-27 Thread Nr4c
Wayne did not say "It doesn't work anymore. ". He said it no longer works with 
DATA submodes PSK D & FSK D.  

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:02 AM, Jeff Stai  wrote:
> 
> Well, Wayne says it doesn't work anymore. I think I will program a writelog
> message for one letter. Close enough. 73 jeff wk6i
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Ed Muns  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm on the latest K3 firmware (5.52?) and the XMIT button continues to
>> work as it always has in all modes, including RTTY.
>> 
>> I can't think of what would cause it not to work and display 'N/A'.  I
>> doubt it is unique to the K3s.
>>> On Sep 27, 2016 4:02 PM, ab2tc > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Nobody has responded to this so I'll hop in with what I know.
>>> 
>>> Apparently the XMIT button was disabled for all data modes in firmware
>>> version 5.47 and all later versions. This has nothing to do with K3/K3S;
>>> both are affected.
>>> 
>>> AB2TC - Knut
>>> 
>>> 
>>> jeff stai-2 wrote
 hi - I'm used to using this button to nudge the amp into auto tune/band
 change by toggling it on and off briefly. I am in data/FSK mode. It
>> works
 fine on the older K3 but for some reason on the K3S I am getting an
>> "N/A"
 on the display and nothing happens. Why would I be getting N/A?
 
 Thanks and 73 jeff wk6i
 
 --
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>>> 
 wk6i.jeff@
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Re: [Elecraft] XMIT button not working?

2016-09-27 Thread Jeff Stai
Well, Wayne says it doesn't work anymore. I think I will program a writelog
message for one letter. Close enough. 73 jeff wk6i


On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Ed Muns  wrote:

> I'm on the latest K3 firmware (5.52?) and the XMIT button continues to
> work as it always has in all modes, including RTTY.
>
> I can't think of what would cause it not to work and display 'N/A'.  I
> doubt it is unique to the K3s.
> On Sep 27, 2016 4:02 PM, ab2tc > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Nobody has responded to this so I'll hop in with what I know.
> >
> > Apparently the XMIT button was disabled for all data modes in firmware
> > version 5.47 and all later versions. This has nothing to do with K3/K3S;
> > both are affected.
> >
> > AB2TC - Knut
> >
> >
> > jeff stai-2 wrote
> > > hi - I'm used to using this button to nudge the amp into auto tune/band
> > > change by toggling it on and off briefly. I am in data/FSK mode. It
> works
> > > fine on the older K3 but for some reason on the K3S I am getting an
> "N/A"
> > > on the display and nothing happens. Why would I be getting N/A?
> > >
> > > Thanks and 73 jeff wk6i
> > >
> > > --
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Re: [Elecraft] XMIT button not working?

2016-09-27 Thread Ed Muns
I'm on the latest K3 firmware (5.52?) and the XMIT button continues to work as 
it always has in all modes, including RTTY.

I can't think of what would cause it not to work and display 'N/A'.  I doubt it 
is unique to the K3s.
On Sep 27, 2016 4:02 PM, ab2tc  wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> Nobody has responded to this so I'll hop in with what I know. 
>
> Apparently the XMIT button was disabled for all data modes in firmware 
> version 5.47 and all later versions. This has nothing to do with K3/K3S; 
> both are affected. 
>
> AB2TC - Knut 
>
>
> jeff stai-2 wrote 
> > hi - I'm used to using this button to nudge the amp into auto tune/band 
> > change by toggling it on and off briefly. I am in data/FSK mode. It works 
> > fine on the older K3 but for some reason on the K3S I am getting an "N/A" 
> > on the display and nothing happens. Why would I be getting N/A? 
> > 
> > Thanks and 73 jeff wk6i 
> > 
> > -- 
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Re: [Elecraft] XMIT button not working?

2016-09-27 Thread Wayne Burdick
What Joe said :)

I suppose you could put "TX;" into a switch macro, too, restoring the ability 
to do this via a front-panel switch.

Wayne

On Sep 27, 2016, at 4:22 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV"  wrote:

> On 9/27/2016 7:00 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > There are three ways to transmit in FSK-D and PSK-D modes:
> 
> *FIVE* ways in FSK-D:
> 
> 4) assert PTT on the mic jack, rear panel PTT jack or CAT RTS/DTR
>   line if selected
> 
> 5) Sent TX; to the CAT interface
> 
> Both are used by common RTTY software (in FSK mode), like MMTTY.
> 
> 73,
> 
>   ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> On 9/27/2016 7:00 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> XMIT was disabled only for FSK-D and PSK-D data submodes. It can still be 
>> used in DATA-A and AFSK-A submodes.
>> 
>> There are three ways to transmit in FSK-D and PSK-D modes:
>> 
>> 1.  Keyer paddle
>> 
>> 2.  Message play (M1-M4 tap) or message repeat (M1-M4 hold)
>> 
>> 3.  Text packet from a host computer or macro (see KeYing command, KY)
>> 
>> XMIT was disable for FSK-D and PSK-D as part of a much larger firmware 
>> makeover having to do with T/R, the USB port, and safe exit from transmit.
>> 
>> If you need to test transmit while in these or any other modes, you can do a 
>> TUNE.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 27, 2016, at 1:02 PM, ab2tc  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Nobody has responded to this so I'll hop in with what I know.
>>> 
>>> Apparently the XMIT button was disabled for all data modes in firmware
>>> version 5.47 and all later versions. This has nothing to do with K3/K3S;
>>> both are affected.
>>> 
>>> AB2TC - Knut
>>> 
>>> 
>>> jeff stai-2 wrote
 hi - I'm used to using this button to nudge the amp into auto tune/band
 change by toggling it on and off briefly. I am in data/FSK mode. It works
 fine on the older K3 but for some reason on the K3S I am getting an "N/A"
 on the display and nothing happens. Why would I be getting N/A?
 
 Thanks and 73 jeff wk6i
 
 --
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Re: [Elecraft] XMIT button not working?

2016-09-27 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

On 9/27/2016 7:00 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> There are three ways to transmit in FSK-D and PSK-D modes:

*FIVE* ways in FSK-D:

4) assert PTT on the mic jack, rear panel PTT jack or CAT RTS/DTR
   line if selected

5) Sent TX; to the CAT interface

Both are used by common RTTY software (in FSK mode), like MMTTY.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV

On 9/27/2016 7:00 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

XMIT was disabled only for FSK-D and PSK-D data submodes. It can still be used 
in DATA-A and AFSK-A submodes.

There are three ways to transmit in FSK-D and PSK-D modes:

1.  Keyer paddle

2.  Message play (M1-M4 tap) or message repeat (M1-M4 hold)

3.  Text packet from a host computer or macro (see KeYing command, KY)

XMIT was disable for FSK-D and PSK-D as part of a much larger firmware makeover 
having to do with T/R, the USB port, and safe exit from transmit.

If you need to test transmit while in these or any other modes, you can do a 
TUNE.

73,
Wayne
N6KR




On Sep 27, 2016, at 1:02 PM, ab2tc  wrote:


Hi,

Nobody has responded to this so I'll hop in with what I know.

Apparently the XMIT button was disabled for all data modes in firmware
version 5.47 and all later versions. This has nothing to do with K3/K3S;
both are affected.

AB2TC - Knut


jeff stai-2 wrote

hi - I'm used to using this button to nudge the amp into auto tune/band
change by toggling it on and off briefly. I am in data/FSK mode. It works
fine on the older K3 but for some reason on the K3S I am getting an "N/A"
on the display and nothing happens. Why would I be getting N/A?

Thanks and 73 jeff wk6i

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Re: [Elecraft] XMIT button not working?

2016-09-27 Thread Wayne Burdick
XMIT was disabled only for FSK-D and PSK-D data submodes. It can still be used 
in DATA-A and AFSK-A submodes.

There are three ways to transmit in FSK-D and PSK-D modes:

1.  Keyer paddle

2.  Message play (M1-M4 tap) or message repeat (M1-M4 hold)

3.  Text packet from a host computer or macro (see KeYing command, KY)

XMIT was disable for FSK-D and PSK-D as part of a much larger firmware makeover 
having to do with T/R, the USB port, and safe exit from transmit. 

If you need to test transmit while in these or any other modes, you can do a 
TUNE.

73,
Wayne
N6KR




On Sep 27, 2016, at 1:02 PM, ab2tc  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Nobody has responded to this so I'll hop in with what I know.
> 
> Apparently the XMIT button was disabled for all data modes in firmware
> version 5.47 and all later versions. This has nothing to do with K3/K3S;
> both are affected.
> 
> AB2TC - Knut
> 
> 
> jeff stai-2 wrote
>> hi - I'm used to using this button to nudge the amp into auto tune/band
>> change by toggling it on and off briefly. I am in data/FSK mode. It works
>> fine on the older K3 but for some reason on the K3S I am getting an "N/A"
>> on the display and nothing happens. Why would I be getting N/A?
>> 
>> Thanks and 73 jeff wk6i
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] XMIT button not working?

2016-09-27 Thread ab2tc
Hi,

Nobody has responded to this so I'll hop in with what I know.

Apparently the XMIT button was disabled for all data modes in firmware
version 5.47 and all later versions. This has nothing to do with K3/K3S;
both are affected.

AB2TC - Knut


jeff stai-2 wrote
> hi - I'm used to using this button to nudge the amp into auto tune/band
> change by toggling it on and off briefly. I am in data/FSK mode. It works
> fine on the older K3 but for some reason on the K3S I am getting an "N/A"
> on the display and nothing happens. Why would I be getting N/A?
> 
> Thanks and 73 jeff wk6i
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Poor sensitivity

2016-09-27 Thread Radiobeamer
Hi John and Don,

Thanks for your responses.  Very useful information.

for John:
Thanks for the link.  I'm not sure that my ears really understand what a
30dB S/N ratio sounds like but for sure with well over 1uV input (which is
-107dBm) I was not getting what I think of as 30+ dB S/N.  With the signal
generator down at -120dBm the signal was lost in the noise so I'm quite sure
that there is some kind of issue here.  I'll hook up the audio to a PC with
Spectrum lab and do some measurements.

for Don:
I used the radio for a few CW QSOs before adding the SSB and 60m/transverter
options and I was happy enough with it but I'm not sure if the sensitivity
was OK before adding the SSB option.  It sounds OK when connected to a
decent antenna and you can make contacts well enough (on 40m and 20m).  With
the noise in a domestic environment and a good antenna you don't need a
super-sensitive receiver on those bands!

I completed the SSB board last week and I'm confident of my abilities so I'm
thinking that (hopefully) the SSB module is good.  As you mentioned, it is
easy enough to reverse the options mods so I can easily check that.  My HP
sig gen goes from -136dBm to +7dBm so it can get pretty strong!  One bad
thing about buying used is that the test probes (frequency and RF signal)
didn't come with the radio so I'll have to build some up  - I already did
the frequency probe to allow the BFO to be aligned.  Just need to find a
detector diode now ...

Also - thanks for all of the great information on your web site Don.  I
already downloaded your alignment guide.  I'll spend some more time
troubleshooting and let you know what I find.

73,

Paul



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[Elecraft] KX1 For Sale!

2016-09-27 Thread rfphelps
For Sale, my KX1 transceiver, s/n 0294:

 

Includes:

. KX1 Transceiver

. KXPD1 Keyer paddle

. KXAT1, Internal Automatic Antenna Tuner

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. All documentation

. Plastic carrying case (not waterproof)

 

Rig is in pristine condition!  

 

Price: $400.00, which includes shipping in continental US

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Poor sensitivity

2016-09-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

Paul,

If the sensitivity was OK before adding the KSB2 option, then the KSB2 
is the most likely cause.
Remove the KSB2 and put a bent wire jumper between pins 1 and 3 of both 
J9 and J10 and see if the sensitivity improves.


If so, re-flow the soldering on the KSB2 board, check the diode 
orientation and check the leads of T1 and T2 to be sure they were well 
stripped and tinned.


If you need to optimize the filter alignment, take a look at the K2 Dial 
Calibration article on my website www.w3fpr.com - part 3 of that article 
covers filter alignment.


If it turns out that there is something else wrong, you will have to do 
Receive Signal Tracing to isolate it to the failing stage. See Appendix 
A in the manual.  It takes a strong signal input to do the checks with 
an RF Probe.  If your HP signal generator is not strong enough to 
provide the specified input signal level, build the signal generator 
shown in the manual.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/27/2016 6:38 AM, Radiobeamer wrote:

Hi group,

I bought a used K2 some time ago.  I've not used it much but it seemed to
work fine.  I recently upgraded it with the SSB option and the
60m/transverter option.  I had to go through the BFO re-alignment procedure
in order to make the filters work properly after installing the SSB option,
and this process seemed to work quite well. The added options appear to be
working OK and I was able to make a few CW and SSB QSOs.




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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: [K3] Weird behavior on 17m

2016-09-27 Thread george allen
I have seen this issue with several different radios and traced the problem to 
RF feedback.  When you run high power, RF can get into everything in the world. 
 You will need to do some enhanced grounding and put split-ferrite cores on all 
cables.

I first encountered this while on a dxpedition to Bequia ( St. vincent and the 
Grenadines) as J8K2CM.  I could not get a good ground...so had to limit my 
power to 25 watts.  More power than that and the radio would hang up.

I have seen this on both my K3 and Flex 6700. No problem with the barefoot KX3.

George
K2CM

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> From: "Steve Ward" 
> Date: Sep 25, 2016 5:17 PM
> Subject: [K3] Weird behavior on 17m
> To: 
> Cc:
> 
> During the CQWW RTTY contest just concluded I happened to accidentally QSY
> to 17m and my radio basically locked up in transmit mode, it'd "blip" into
> RX every second or so, but go right back to TX before I could do anything
> to stop it.  The only way out seems to be the band selector buttons on the
> KPA500 which allowed me to switch back to 20m.
> 
> I checked all the other bands and did not observe this behavior, it's only
> 17m.  I'm at a total loss as to what is happening as it doesn't appear to
> have anything to do with the computer interface (I unplugged the USB cable
> from the rig and the problem persists).  It may be the case the problem has
> been with me a long time as my antenna is not resonant on 17, so I hardly
> every go there.
> 
> Corrupted config or firmware maybe?
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Poor sensitivity

2016-09-27 Thread John Oppenheimer
Hi Paul,

There is a procedure for estimating MDS documented in the XG3 manual,
the "Measuring Receiver Sensitivity" section:
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740154%20XG3%20Owner%27s%20Manual%20Rev%20D2%20-%20ECO%2001887.pdf

I've performed this test and found my K2 to have a reasonable match.

John KN5L

On 09/27/2016 05:38 AM, Radiobeamer wrote:
> I noticed that the S meter was not moving very much so I thought to
> check the sensitivity.  According to the spec we should have a sensitivity
> (MDS) of something like -130dBm without the preamp and -135dBm with the
> preamp.  I have an HP signal generator and, without being too precise about
> MDS etc,
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[Elecraft] K2 Poor sensitivity

2016-09-27 Thread Radiobeamer
Hi group,

I bought a used K2 some time ago.  I've not used it much but it seemed to
work fine.  I recently upgraded it with the SSB option and the
60m/transverter option.  I had to go through the BFO re-alignment procedure
in order to make the filters work properly after installing the SSB option,
and this process seemed to work quite well. The added options appear to be
working OK and I was able to make a few CW and SSB QSOs.  

However, I noticed that the S meter was not moving very much so I thought to
check the sensitivity.  According to the spec we should have a sensitivity
(MDS) of something like -130dBm without the preamp and -135dBm with the
preamp.  I have an HP signal generator and, without being too precise about
MDS etc, I was not able to hear anything at all below about -120dBm (ie the
signal was completely buried in the noise) and it would probably take
-110dBm to -100dBm to be able to copy a signal.  This is with the preamp on. 
So I am looking for reasons why my sensitivity is a bit down, say 20 to
30dB.

My K2 has, in addition to the SSB and 60m options, the noise blanker and top
band options as well as the KPA100 and KDSP2, which were not in use during
these checks.  I was able to make the following observations:

a) The sensitivity is about the same on all bands which would seem to
exclude the 60m module as a potential source of the problem.
b) The sensitivity is the same using the separate receive antenna input in
the top band option.
c) The transverter option does not appear to be causing the problem since I
can use it to switch between the transverter input and the normal BNC
antenna connection.
d) The sensitivity seemed to be slightly better using the SSB filter than
the CW filters.  By the time the 200Hz crystal filter bandwidth was selected
the signal was audibly weaker than using the fixed SSB filter.

I'm not all that familiar with the K2 architecture and particularly the
alignment procedure.  So I should like some advice about the best way to
approach this issue.  I see that the noise blanker has an IF filter
(labelled -6dB) which I imagine could cause a problem like this if it was
built incorrectly.  I guess it is an easy enough step to remove the option
and replace it with a wire link.  

Assuming that this did not resolve the problem, would I be wise to look for
a definite fault (eg in the IF amplifier chain) or to go down the path of
complete re-alignment?  Can poor alignment (excluding front-end alignment)
of the radio cause poor sensitivity?  Could this be the reason why the CW
filters seem less sensitive than the SSB filter?  Bear in mind that there
could be an original build fault causing this issue (perhaps a wrongly wound
matching transformer, for example).

Thanks in advance for your help.

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[Elecraft] Fwd: [K3] Weird behavior on 17m

2016-09-27 Thread Steve Ward
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From: "Steve Ward" 
Date: Sep 25, 2016 5:17 PM
Subject: [K3] Weird behavior on 17m
To: 
Cc:

During the CQWW RTTY contest just concluded I happened to accidentally QSY
to 17m and my radio basically locked up in transmit mode, it'd "blip" into
RX every second or so, but go right back to TX before I could do anything
to stop it.  The only way out seems to be the band selector buttons on the
KPA500 which allowed me to switch back to 20m.

I checked all the other bands and did not observe this behavior, it's only
17m.  I'm at a total loss as to what is happening as it doesn't appear to
have anything to do with the computer interface (I unplugged the USB cable
from the rig and the problem persists).  It may be the case the problem has
been with me a long time as my antenna is not resonant on 17, so I hardly
every go there.

Corrupted config or firmware maybe?

Thanks,

Steve AD7OG
K3 sn 1544
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