[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good evening, A cool week with winds from the Pacific have cleaned the air. The sun is yellow again and the air doesn't taste bad. I did have to yell at a doe who thought my rhododendrons were food. She'd never heard me raise my voice before gave me a guilty look and left. The bees seem to have disappeared. Weeks of smokey weather finally drove them off. The lavender is still blooming with no one around to pollinate them. The sun is quiet. Folks are predicting a colder winter because of it. Then in the next paragraph write about the Carrington event. Luckily the snow will put out any residual fires. And the sun is active enough to support HF. Now to get more wood before the snow gets too deep. Please join us tomorrow on: 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) 7045 kHz at z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday) 73, Kevin. KD5ONS _ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Data transmission on 30 meters with PX3 problem
Hi Gwen, Still sounds like RF getting in somewhere. That kind of antenna is guaranteed to bring common mode current into the shack. If you have a dummy load I would connect it directly to the output of the radio and see if the problem still occurs. 73, Gary K9GS Original message From: Gwen Patton Date: 9/1/18 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Data transmission on 30 meters with PX3 problem This happens very rarely for me EXCEPT for 30 meters. Then it happens so much, it makes data modes (CW, RTTY, PSK) useless. I'm using a wired USB keyboard connected to the PX3. If I'm on 30 meters, and I use the ATU to match the antenna, transmitting any data mode causes extra, spurious characters to be added onto the end of the keyboard input buffer. In some circumstances, it starts appending additional messages stored in message slots mapped to function keys. Usually it's just a few characters -- a couple of numbers, a few alphas -- that get transmitted at the end of my transmission. In less frequent cases, the transmission doesn't stop, as new characters are being shoved into the keyboard buffer faster than they can be transmitted. Pressing backspace to erase these characters works very seldom, though it can help, marginally. In very rare cases, it seems scan codes for function keys are getting shoved into the keyboard buffer, which appends those message slot contents to the end. I usually wind up hitting ESC to stop the transmission, because it's running wild. RF power isn't a determinant. I can run power down to less than a watt and it still happens. I tried wrapping a big ferrite toroid (T200-2) with the keyboard cable just before the PX3 keyboard port, but it doesn't appear to help. I've searched for solutions online and in both the PX3 and KX3 manuals. The antenna is a half-length "W3EDP Jr." end-fed antenna with an LDG RU-4:1 unun, run from my front porch to a tree, about 15' up at the porch end, and about 25' up at the far end. This is the antenna I'm using: https://thewakesileave.wordpress.com/2016/08/15/a-42-portable-multiband-hf-antenna-with-no-wire-on-the-ground-the-w3edp-jr/ Has anyone else had this problem, or can you suggest something I might set differently in a menu option? I've gone through about everything I can think of, including changing the position of the coax, the aforementioned choke on the keyboard cable, et. al., but can't figure out what's causing this. It acts like RF getting into the keyboard. I'll try a different keyboard while I wait for any suggestions, but other than that, I'm stuck. Being a member of 30MDG, I'd sort of like to be able to operate on 30! 73, Gwen NG3P -- -+-+-+-+- Jenny Everywhere's Infinite: Quark Time http://quarktime.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to garyk...@wi.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Data transmission on 30 meters with PX3 problem
This happens very rarely for me EXCEPT for 30 meters. Then it happens so much, it makes data modes (CW, RTTY, PSK) useless. I'm using a wired USB keyboard connected to the PX3. If I'm on 30 meters, and I use the ATU to match the antenna, transmitting any data mode causes extra, spurious characters to be added onto the end of the keyboard input buffer. In some circumstances, it starts appending additional messages stored in message slots mapped to function keys. Usually it's just a few characters -- a couple of numbers, a few alphas -- that get transmitted at the end of my transmission. In less frequent cases, the transmission doesn't stop, as new characters are being shoved into the keyboard buffer faster than they can be transmitted. Pressing backspace to erase these characters works very seldom, though it can help, marginally. In very rare cases, it seems scan codes for function keys are getting shoved into the keyboard buffer, which appends those message slot contents to the end. I usually wind up hitting ESC to stop the transmission, because it's running wild. RF power isn't a determinant. I can run power down to less than a watt and it still happens. I tried wrapping a big ferrite toroid (T200-2) with the keyboard cable just before the PX3 keyboard port, but it doesn't appear to help. I've searched for solutions online and in both the PX3 and KX3 manuals. The antenna is a half-length "W3EDP Jr." end-fed antenna with an LDG RU-4:1 unun, run from my front porch to a tree, about 15' up at the porch end, and about 25' up at the far end. This is the antenna I'm using: https://thewakesileave.wordpress.com/2016/08/15/a-42-portable-multiband-hf-antenna-with-no-wire-on-the-ground-the-w3edp-jr/ Has anyone else had this problem, or can you suggest something I might set differently in a menu option? I've gone through about everything I can think of, including changing the position of the coax, the aforementioned choke on the keyboard cable, et. al., but can't figure out what's causing this. It acts like RF getting into the keyboard. I'll try a different keyboard while I wait for any suggestions, but other than that, I'm stuck. Being a member of 30MDG, I'd sort of like to be able to operate on 30! 73, Gwen NG3P -- -+-+-+-+- Jenny Everywhere's Infinite: Quark Time http://quarktime.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] internet speed for remote K3S
I run remote to W7RN [near Virginia City NV] from Sparks, NV ... maybe 50-60 km road miles away. Trace Route shows that most packets go through Sacramento, some through San Francisco, some through Los Angeles. Ping times average about 35-40 ms. BW required by RemoteRig is much lower than I expected, maybe around 30-60 Kbps both ways. At 40 ms, the latency is just noticeable if I spin the Big Knob really fast. The RRC 1258 is simplex, no QSK. These data are for CW, I almost never use SSB, and haven't tried RTTY yet. One of the other users runs FT8 all the time, very successfully. We use Teamviewer to view and control the station automation, it seems to consume around 300 Kbps under most conditions. The RRC CODEC has a variety of options, some requiring more BW than others. Web cams on the monitor can really increase the BW requirement. They usually work in a differential mode, sending only the changes from the last frame. A tree outside the window in a little breeze will make a huge number of pixel changes in the shack lighting and the camera really sucks up the BW. Packet-level reliability is far more important than raw speed. If there are other devices on your sub-net with high throughput, or if your WAN is unreliable at packet-level, it may be impossible to operate. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 9/1/2018 12:38 PM, David Cutter via Elecraft wrote: I will soon be building a remote control station about 20miles away. Both stations have access to broadband, but what speed will give satisfactory results? tnx and 73 David G3UNA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] internet speed for remote K3S
Agreed, My Hughes net satellite service was a bust for it Mel, K6KBE From: David F. Reed To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2018 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] internet speed for remote K3S My experience is exactly that; look out for latency; that is the killer. Yes you need a minimal speed that is pretty good, but latency is a big issue; for example the satellite based ISPs are useless for this; adequate for streaming movies, etc. but latency is way to high... 73 de Dave, W5SV On 9/1/18 3:30 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On 9/1/2018 12:38 PM, David Cutter via Elecraft wrote: >> Both >> stations have access to broadband, but what speed will give satisfactory >> results? > > Hi David, > > I've never done this, but reading from what others have done, I > suspect that latency may be as important as speed, especially if you > want to do CW contesting or break a DX pileup. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w5sv.d...@gmail.com -- שָׁלום עֲלֵיכֶם - עֲלֵיכֶם שָׁלום __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to farrerfo...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] internet speed for remote K3S
My experience is exactly that; look out for latency; that is the killer. Yes you need a minimal speed that is pretty good, but latency is a big issue; for example the satellite based ISPs are useless for this; adequate for streaming movies, etc. but latency is way to high... 73 de Dave, W5SV On 9/1/18 3:30 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 9/1/2018 12:38 PM, David Cutter via Elecraft wrote: Both stations have access to broadband, but what speed will give satisfactory results? Hi David, I've never done this, but reading from what others have done, I suspect that latency may be as important as speed, especially if you want to do CW contesting or break a DX pileup. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w5sv.d...@gmail.com -- שָׁלום עֲלֵיכֶם - עֲלֵיכֶם שָׁלום __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] internet speed for remote K3S
On 9/1/2018 12:38 PM, David Cutter via Elecraft wrote: Both stations have access to broadband, but what speed will give satisfactory results? Hi David, I've never done this, but reading from what others have done, I suspect that latency may be as important as speed, especially if you want to do CW contesting or break a DX pileup. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] internet speed for remote K3S
David: > On Sep 1, 2018, at 3:38 PM, David Cutter via Elecraft > wrote: > > I will soon be building a remote control station about 20miles away. Both > stations have access to broadband, but what speed will give satisfactory > results? My experience operating remote is with a K3I/O-mini and Remote Rig interfaces. My station is 1,250 miles from where I’m currently located. The K3 transmitter site (Southeast Georgia) is in a rural setting that uses DSL with a downlink capability of about 20 Mbps and uplink capability of about 1 Mbps (the fastest speed available for residential customers). The control location (Boston) with the K3/IO-Mini uses Comcast/Xfinity which provides a downlink capability of 90 MBps and 6 Mbps uplink. With this setup I have no problems using the K3/IO through the K3/IO-Mini with excellent audio and instantaneous management of the radio. At the same, I’m using web-based interfaces (RR-1216H) to control the KPA500 amplifier and Green Heron RT-21 rotor controller. One of the advantages of Remote Rig is that there are various audio codec options available which can be set depending upon how much bandwidth is available. My remote rig setup uses a relatively low audio setting (16 KHz) but the audio sounds fine to my ears and I have no problem with this setup. I haven’t experimented with higher audio settings in part because I have other devices feeding data through that 1 MB Uplink as well. Bottom line is that if you have true “broadband” at both locations, I wouldn’t expect any problems. FWIW, Barry Baines, WD4ASW (Currently in Boston, MA) > tnx and 73 > David G3UNA > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bbai...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] internet speed for remote K3S
I will soon be building a remote control station about 20miles away. Both stations have access to broadband, but what speed will give satisfactory results? tnx and 73 David G3UNA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] NJQRP Skeeter Hunt - If you snooze .....
If you snooze, you lose! DON'T BE LEFT OUT! If you partook - send in your score and comments. Log submissions are due by Midnight of Labor Day, September 3rd. That's THIS Monday night. You don't have to submit your entire logs - just a summary - follow this example Larry - W2LJ - NJ Skeeter #13 - All CW Single Op Skeeter QSOs - 23 Non-Skeeter QRP QSOs - 5 Non-Skeeter QRO QSOs - (if any) S/P/Cs - 18 Station Class Multiplier X4 Water Bonus - 100 points Please send it to w2lj...@gmail.com I will answer each log submission with an e-mail veifying your entry. If you don't hear from me - try again. The Scoreboard and comments will be posted Tuesday evening. 72 de Larry W2LJ NJQRP Skeeter Hunt Manager __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Why Black
Folks, this thread was closed over a day ago in the interest of limiting list reader email overload. Please refrain from further posts on this topic. 73, Eric Moderator, and chief bottle washer. elecraft.com --- Sent from my iPhone 6S > On Aug 31, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Gwen Patton wrote: > > The issue I have with black items is that EVERYTHING is black these days. > Cables are black. Cases are black. Bags are black. Boxes are black. > Microphones are black. Handhelds are black (except for Baofeng :P). Rubber > duckies are black. When you get a pile of black things it's impossible to > find one SPECIFIC shapeless black object among them. Thankfully someone got > the idea regarding USB cables, and now they're starting to make them in > more visible colors. I'd be able to find the nice bright electric green USB > cable, if I could only find the shapeless black bag I put it in because the > bag came with the package of cables... > > 73, > Gwen NG3P > >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 7:18 PM wrote: >> >> For those of us who are visually challenged black on anything is very >> tough. >> The one exception to the rule is computer screens. A black or dark >> background with light text really helps with the eye strain. >> I think Elecraft should seriously consider changing the color of the >> display. Orange background with black text isn't high contrast enough. A >> black background ala just about everybody else makes the radio easier to >> see. >> >> R. Kevin StoverAC0H >> >> ARRL, FISTS, SKCC, NAQCC. >> "If it doesn't work the first time you push the button it won't work the >> 20th.Just stop." >> >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> On >> Behalf Of Bill Frantz >> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 8:45 AM >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] Why Black >> >>> On 8/30/18 at 5:31 AM, glcazz...@alice.it (IK4EWX) wrote: >>> >>> ... Here the problem is the black face of KPOD. >> >> I have had problems reading the labels on my K3 in dark rooms and tents. I >> wonder why most radio available today are black. In the old days, the >> Collins and Heathkit radios weren't black. It would seem that black letters >> on a light background would be more visible under low light conditions. It >> would also liven up the shack. >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> --- >> Bill Frantz| Concurrency is hard. 12 out | Periwinkle >> (408)356-8506 | 10 programmers get it wrong. | 16345 >> Englewood Ave >> www.pwpconsult.com |- Jeff Frantz | Los Gatos, >> CA 95032 >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message >> delivered to ksto...@ac0h.net >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ard...@gmail.com >> > > > -- > > -+-+-+-+- > Jenny Everywhere's Infinite: Quark Time > http://quarktime.net > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swa...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] (OT )AND YOU CW WAS THE CAT'S MEOW
and the winner is Morse code < https://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/standards/morse-codes-vanquished-competitor-the-dial-telegraph > -- The Morse be with youLive Long and Prosper __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
