Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

[K9MA]

I learned an expensive lesson when I shipped my K3 back for service: 
Never ship from a UPS "Store", unless you prepay online. The store 
charged me about double the online price, with some excuse about using a 
different insurance company. You can, however, prepay online and just 
drop it off at a nearby store.


73,
Scott K9MA


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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

[Bill Johnson]

Joe, that is very good info for us with PO Boxes and want greater security.  

73,
Bill
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On 9/25/2018 8:15 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:36:59 -0400
> From: Grant Youngman
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS
>
> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and 
> needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping.

I shipped my K3 back to Elecraft earlier this year via UPS and $2,500 
insurance.  I use a local hardware store in my town that has UPS service at the 
normal rates.  They said they use a company that contracts with UPS for 
shipping.  The company that provides the UPS service to the hardware store 
requires inspection of high value packages, reportedly due to some fraud cases 
in the past.  Because they know me well they took my word that I double boxed 
it and packed it well, I didn't have to unpack it.  I had shipped many things 
with them in the past with no problems.

For the return address, I use my local post office where I have a PO box.  It's 
a little known fact that the USPS will accept packages for PO box holders from 
any private carrier, UPS, FedEx, etc.  They will also sign for some packages 
requiring signature if you have a signature on file.  This solves my problem of 
packages left on my doorstep for people to potentially steal.  This also solves 
the problem of people/businesses that will not ship to a PO box.

This is how I address packages to be mailed to me.

My Name
34 Main Street  #(my PO box number)
East Haddam, CT 06423

A really nice feature of the post office.  Look at:



73, Joe, K1ike


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Turn On

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Thanks Martin.

 Just wondering if it is normal.  From the reports, it is. 

Thanks to all. 

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Sep 25, 2018, at 10:21 PM, Martin Sole  wrote:
> 
> Mine does this. The white screen has gone though by the time my finger comes 
> off the K3 power button, replaced with a P3 boot loader message, that's also 
> gone very quickly.
> 
> Martin, HS0ZED
> 
> 
>> On 26/09/2018 07:15, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>> Just purchased a NIB P3 for my K3S station.   Love it!
>> 
>> Question - is it normal for it to initially power on with a bright white 
>> screen while it loads?  This is very brief, but sure makes a flash.   If 
>> normal, then so be it.  It is powered from the DC jack on the K3S.   I 
>> always switch the station supply on first and then the radio.  Thus the 
>> KAT500 and P3 are powered from the same switched source.
>> 
>> I did update it to the latest firmware as it came to me with older version.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Bob, K4TAX
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Turn On

[Martin Sole]

Mine does this. The white screen has gone though by the time my finger 
comes off the K3 power button, replaced with a P3 boot loader message, 
that's also gone very quickly.


Martin, HS0ZED


On 26/09/2018 07:15, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

Just purchased a NIB P3 for my K3S station.   Love it!

Question - is it normal for it to initially power on with a bright 
white screen while it loads?  This is very brief, but sure makes a 
flash.   If normal, then so be it.  It is powered from the DC jack on 
the K3S.   I always switch the station supply on first and then the 
radio.  Thus the KAT500 and P3 are powered from the same switched source.


I did update it to the latest firmware as it came to me with older 
version.


73

Bob, K4TAX


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[Elecraft] K3 internal 2-meter transverter problem

[Rus Healy]

I have an older K3 (low-2000 serial number) with the K144XV internal
2-meter transverter and KXV3A module (factory-upgraded in 2014).

In the September VHF contest, the first time I've used that band on that
radio, I found that the transmitter is flying. It puts out 2-3 watts when
keyed, regardless of mode (CW, SSB), with no keying/modulation. It drives
up to a few watts output and sounds okay on-frequency, TX and RX, but is
clearly not stable and the bad energy is in-band on 2 meters, and quite
nearby.

I haven't looked at the output on the spectrum analyzer yet, or taken the
radio apart to inspect the transverter; I wanted to ask here for any
similar experiences before I tear into it to hopefully save a bit of time.

Thanks in advance.

--73, Rus, K2UA
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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

[JOE]

On 9/25/2018 8:15 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

Message: 6
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:36:59 -0400
From: Grant Youngman
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and 
needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping.


I shipped my K3 back to Elecraft earlier this year via UPS and $2,500 
insurance.  I use a local hardware store in my town that has UPS service 
at the normal rates.  They said they use a company that contracts with 
UPS for shipping.  The company that provides the UPS service to the 
hardware store requires inspection of high value packages, reportedly 
due to some fraud cases in the past.  Because they know me well they 
took my word that I double boxed it and packed it well, I didn't have to 
unpack it.  I had shipped many things with them in the past with no 
problems.


For the return address, I use my local post office where I have a PO 
box.  It's a little known fact that the USPS will accept packages for PO 
box holders from any private carrier, UPS, FedEx, etc.  They will also 
sign for some packages requiring signature if you have a signature on 
file.  This solves my problem of packages left on my doorstep for people 
to potentially steal.  This also solves the problem of people/businesses 
that will not ship to a PO box.


This is how I address packages to be mailed to me.

My Name
34 Main Street  #(my PO box number)
East Haddam, CT 06423

A really nice feature of the post office.  Look at:



73, Joe, K1ike


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[Elecraft] P3 Turn On

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Just purchased a NIB P3 for my K3S station.   Love it!

Question - is it normal for it to initially power on with a bright white 
screen while it loads?  This is very brief, but sure makes a flash.   If 
normal, then so be it.  It is powered from the DC jack on the K3S.   I 
always switch the station supply on first and then the radio.  Thus the 
KAT500 and P3 are powered from the same switched source.


I did update it to the latest firmware as it came to me with older version.

73

Bob, K4TAX


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Re: [Elecraft] KAT2 Hi Cur warning

[Don Wilhelm]

Mark,

First, set the CAL CUR in the K2 menu to 3.50 - and also make certain 
the power supply voltage as displayed on the K2 display is not dropping 
significantly during a TUNE.  If it drops more than 1 volt suspect your 
power supply or the power cable.  A low supply voltage can cause the K2 
to report HI Cur - the K2 tries to maintain the power requested, and a 
lower voltage requires greater current.


Note that at least 2 watts is required to calibrate the KAT2 wattmeter 
and to do a TUNE.


The first step in bringing up the KAT2 is to balance (null) the 
wattmeter.  Adjust the trimmer capacitor for the lowest reading in ATU 
menu CALn.


After that, connect a good 50 ohm dummy load and do the CALP setting. 
Use an external wattmeter that you trust, or the measurement of the RF 
voltage with the RF Probe will work, but requires some calculation in 
between adjustments.  The external wattmeter is quicker.


With the ATU menu set for CALP, the relays should be set to open all 
paths to the capacitors and to short out the inductors, so I doubt that 
those relay measurements are of value - unless one of the relays has an 
unsoldered pin 1 or pin 10 which will not allow it to switch.
Check the schematic to see which relay pins should be closed and which 
should be open.


73,
Don W3FPR



On 9/25/2018 5:35 PM, AE0MM via Elecraft wrote:

Just installed the KAT2 in a newly assembled K2. At power levels greater than 
8.0 watts, the K2 was displaying the high current warning. The KAT2 power 
calibration was calibrated by measuring voltage with the K2's RF probe at the 
feed point to a dummy load.

I removed the KAT2 and remeasured the power across all bands. Again, power was 
calculated based on DC voltage from RF probe at dummy load feed point. The 
impedance of the feedline and dummy load were retested. (49 to 51 ohms over the 
amateur radio bands, measured with a sark-110 calibrated using a set of 
reference loads)

Here are the results:

BandPower At Load   K2 Current
80  9.7 2.2
40  9.2 2.0
30  9.4 2.1
20  9.7 2.1
17  11  2.1
15  9.3 2.0
12  9.4 2.2
10  9.6 2.3

After remeasuring power, the KAT2 was reinstalled, and its power meter verified 
correct at 5 watts. With the KAT2 reinstalled, rechecked K2 current draw at 10 
watts on all bands. For each band it measured 20% to 30% higher than without 
the KAT2.

With the power level on the K2 set to one watt and the ATU set to CALP, I used 
the RF probe to measure a few points on the KAT2 control board, and the input 
from the RF board. At the one watt level, there is approximately 1v drop 
between K17 pins 2/9 and 4/7.


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[Elecraft] microHAM USB III interface with K2/100 cable __SOLD

[Ralph McClintock]

sorry, forgot. my USB III and cable have been sold.

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[Elecraft] KAT2 Hi Cur warning

[AE0MM via Elecraft]

Just installed the KAT2 in a newly assembled K2. At power levels greater than 
8.0 watts, the K2 was displaying the high current warning. The KAT2 power 
calibration was calibrated by measuring voltage with the K2's RF probe at the 
feed point to a dummy load.

I removed the KAT2 and remeasured the power across all bands. Again, power was 
calculated based on DC voltage from RF probe at dummy load feed point. The 
impedance of the feedline and dummy load were retested. (49 to 51 ohms over the 
amateur radio bands, measured with a sark-110 calibrated using a set of 
reference loads)

Here are the results:

BandPower At Load   K2 Current
80  9.7 2.2
40  9.2 2.0
30  9.4 2.1
20  9.7 2.1
17  11  2.1
15  9.3 2.0
12  9.4 2.2
10  9.6 2.3

After remeasuring power, the KAT2 was reinstalled, and its power meter verified 
correct at 5 watts. With the KAT2 reinstalled, rechecked K2 current draw at 10 
watts on all bands. For each band it measured 20% to 30% higher than without 
the KAT2.

With the power level on the K2 set to one watt and the ATU set to CALP, I used 
the RF probe to measure a few points on the KAT2 control board, and the input 
from the RF board. At the one watt level, there is approximately 1v drop 
between K17 pins 2/9 and 4/7.

K17
PinsVolts
2/9 9.9
3/8 9.9
4/7 8.6

K18
PinsVolts
3/8 8.6

Is this expected behavior, or is something amiss with this KAT2?

Thanks,
--mark/ae0mm
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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

[Grant Youngman]

I do, too., usually.   Except this time.  UPS — a little under  $100, maximum 
insurance, ground.  USPS — almost $170 (Priority).  UPS 3-day was around $225.  
The differences would have cut way too far into the IPA  budget item.  You have 
to prioritize somewhere :-)

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Peter Dougherty (W2IRT)  wrote:
> 
> I ship *everything* by the US Postal Service, and if the day ever comes that 
> I need to send my K3s or KPA-1500 back for service you can bet it'll be using 
> the post office, with original Elecraft shipping boxes and a premium shipping 
> method with full insurance. I ship merchandise commercially and I've found 
> their insurance far easier to claim on the 2 instances in 27 years that I 
> needed to do so than the first (and only) time I ever tried to do this with 
> UPS on a used/dead laptop. And they refused to pay. FedEx I wouldn't trust to 
> pick up a piece of litter on the ground, let alone a $6,000 amp.
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Shipping

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Lets also end -this- duplicate thread at this time in the interest of improving 
list SNR for our other readers.


Eric
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On 9/25/2018 1:35 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

I agree for small shipments. However USPS doesn't pack. The point being, if I use the 
Fed-X packing service and it gets damaged or lost it is 100% their issue.   In other 
words they don't come back to me and say "poorly packed".

I lost a radio via UPS due to damage. When I recovered it there was a corner crushed and 
some type of equipment track on the box.  Their response was "improper 
packaging".   Guess I should have used a steel case.

Seems that diff folks have different results.


Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 25, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Ken G Kopp  wrote:

In decades we've -never- had a positive interaction with FedEx ... IMO, an
awful company!

Rose (Elecraft Cases & Covers) ships 10 - 20 orders per month via USPS
Priority Mail, and have never had a single issue.  Never more than 3 days
to anywhere in the US.

73!

K0PP


On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 13:32 Carl Jón Denbow  wrote:

Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I’ve shipped many high value
items with them.  I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at
FedEx once. They opened the box because I said the value was about
$4000.00.  They had to insure the packing was sufficient.  I’ve avoided
them for high-value items ever since. 73 de Carl

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On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:04 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX 

wrote:

I just took mine to the authorized Fed-X shipping store and let them

deal with it.  No hassles. Less expensive than UPS and faster service.

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Grant Youngman 

wrote:

The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead

and needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about
shipping.

For several good reasons, I just sent my K3 to Elecraft for service for

the first time ever.  Insured, double boxed, expensive Uline 3” plank foam
cushion support for the inner carton, etc.   Because I insured it for a
high value, I was required by UPS to take the carton to the local UPS
Customer Service Center, not the UPS store, etc. to obtain a signature.
Don’t know if I’d scheduled a pickup that it would have been the same fire
drill, but that wasn’t an option for me because of UPS schedules around
here.

Got to the UPS Center at the airport  and was told that I had to UNPACK

ALL of the cartons so they could see what was inside and determine that it
wasn’t explosives (apparently there was an incident at FedEx back in
February).   UPS did a sloppy job of retaping everything.  Nothing worse
than having to cut open carefully packed and sealed containers to prove
you’re not just another uni-bomber.  I bit my lips and was (mostly)
friendly about it.  Worse than TSA … because they don’t have the chemical
detection wipes and X-ray machines that TSA has.   So it’s a bigger than
average hassle.

Word to the wise — leave your  cartons untaped, take your tape gun with

you, and close/tape the containers yourself.  (Maybe I’m the only person
that didn’t know this was a current UPS policy?)

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Lets end this thread at this time in the interest of improving list SNR for our 
other readers.


73,
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On 9/25/2018 1:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Grant and all,

I use both UPS and USPS for shipping.


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Shipping

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I agree for small shipments. However USPS doesn't pack. The point being, if I 
use the Fed-X packing service and it gets damaged or lost it is 100% their 
issue.   In other words they don't come back to me and say "poorly packed".  

I lost a radio via UPS due to damage. When I recovered it there was a corner 
crushed and some type of equipment track on the box.  Their response was 
"improper packaging".   Guess I should have used a steel case.  

Seems that diff folks have different results. 


Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Ken G Kopp  wrote:
> 
> In decades we've -never- had a positive interaction with FedEx ... IMO, an
> awful company!
> 
> Rose (Elecraft Cases & Covers) ships 10 - 20 orders per month via USPS
> Priority Mail, and have never had a single issue.  Never more than 3 days
> to anywhere in the US.
> 
> 73!
> 
> K0PP
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 13:32 Carl Jón Denbow  wrote:
>> 
>> Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I’ve shipped many high value
>> items with them.  I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at
>> FedEx once. They opened the box because I said the value was about
>> $4000.00.  They had to insure the packing was sufficient.  I’ve avoided
>> them for high-value items ever since. 73 de Carl
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ===
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>> 17 Coventry Lane
>> Athens, Ohio 45701-3718
>> 
>> c...@n8vz.com
>> www.n8vz.com
>> EM89wh
>> 
>> IRLP 4533   Echolink 116070
>> 
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>> ===
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:04 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just took mine to the authorized Fed-X shipping store and let them
>> deal with it.  No hassles. Less expensive than UPS and faster service.
>>> 
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Grant Youngman 
>> wrote:
 
 The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead
>> and needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about
>> shipping.
 
 For several good reasons, I just sent my K3 to Elecraft for service for
>> the first time ever.  Insured, double boxed, expensive Uline 3” plank foam
>> cushion support for the inner carton, etc.   Because I insured it for a
>> high value, I was required by UPS to take the carton to the local UPS
>> Customer Service Center, not the UPS store, etc. to obtain a signature.
>> Don’t know if I’d scheduled a pickup that it would have been the same fire
>> drill, but that wasn’t an option for me because of UPS schedules around
>> here.
 
 Got to the UPS Center at the airport  and was told that I had to UNPACK
>> ALL of the cartons so they could see what was inside and determine that it
>> wasn’t explosives (apparently there was an incident at FedEx back in
>> February).   UPS did a sloppy job of retaping everything.  Nothing worse
>> than having to cut open carefully packed and sealed containers to prove
>> you’re not just another uni-bomber.  I bit my lips and was (mostly)
>> friendly about it.  Worse than TSA … because they don’t have the chemical
>> detection wipes and X-ray machines that TSA has.   So it’s a bigger than
>> average hassle.
 
 Word to the wise — leave your  cartons untaped, take your tape gun with
>> you, and close/tape the containers yourself.  (Maybe I’m the only person
>> that didn’t know this was a current UPS policy?)
 
 Grant NQ5T
 K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

[Don Wilhelm]

Grant and all,

I use both UPS and USPS for shipping.

With UPS, if you go on-line and fill out the information and print the 
shipping label, you can give it to any UPS driver.  If the value is 
$1000 or more, the driver will have to sign your receipt.

Less than $1000, you can drop it off at any shipping center.
Yes, the UPS store may want to wrap it for you (and charge for that 
service), but I have never had anyone ask me to do that.
So print your own shipping labels and avoid the hassle - if the declared 
value is $1000 or above, hand it to a UPS driver, or expect to take it 
to a UPS distribution center (not a UPS store).


With USPS, I have insured items for most any amount up to the maximum of 
$5000 with no questions other than those normally asked about hazardous 
contents, etc.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/25/2018 3:52 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:

I don’t know what the other guys do.  But this has apparently been a UPS policy 
since February for packages  delivered to the Service Center.  Didn’t know 
about it of course, and don’t think there was any kind of warning on the 
website.  Maybe just missed the announcement.   I seem to recall the last time 
I shipped something insured for near maximum value, that the UPS Store could 
take it and sign for it, but that doesn’t seem to be the case any longer.

I’m not deriding UPS, just be aware if you ship an item (like a K3) with 
high-value insurance by UPS,  and have to take it to a Service Center, expect 
them to ask you (you have to do yourself) to open or unpack the item so they 
can inspect it and make sure it isn’t ticking :-)

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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

[Fred Jensen]

Interesting thread.  Back when we had lots of troops in Iraq, my wife 
and I adopted some and sent them packages. ["Pay it Forward" ... my 
combat team and I got many in SE Asia from strangers].  They had to go 
USPS Priority, every one made it.  OTOH, my employer had a contract with 
FedX.  Everything went FedX.  I don't remember ever having a problem.  
Much less experience with UPS so I don't really know except that when 
something we buy comes UPS and the email warning says it will require a 
signature, it's almost always just left on the porch.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 9/25/2018 1:17 PM, Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) wrote:

I ship *everything* by the US Postal Service, and if the day ever comes that I 
need to send my K3s or KPA-1500 back for service you can bet it'll be using the 
post office, with original Elecraft shipping boxes and a premium shipping 
method with full insurance. I ship merchandise commercially and I've found 
their insurance far easier to claim on the 2 instances in 27 years that I 
needed to do so than the first (and only) time I ever tried to do this with UPS 
on a used/dead laptop. And they refused to pay. FedEx I wouldn't trust to pick 
up a piece of litter on the ground, let alone a $6,000 amp.



Regards,
Peter Dougherty, W2IRT
DXCC Card Checker/CQ-WAZ Checkpoint



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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

[Peter Dougherty (W2IRT)]

I ship *everything* by the US Postal Service, and if the day ever comes that I 
need to send my K3s or KPA-1500 back for service you can bet it'll be using the 
post office, with original Elecraft shipping boxes and a premium shipping 
method with full insurance. I ship merchandise commercially and I've found 
their insurance far easier to claim on the 2 instances in 27 years that I 
needed to do so than the first (and only) time I ever tried to do this with UPS 
on a used/dead laptop. And they refused to pay. FedEx I wouldn't trust to pick 
up a piece of litter on the ground, let alone a $6,000 amp.



Regards,
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

I don’t know what the other guys do.  But this has apparently been a UPS policy 
since February for packages  delivered to the Service Center.  Didn’t know 
about it of course, and don’t think there was any kind of warning on the 
website.  Maybe just missed the announcement.   I seem to recall the last time 
I shipped something insured for near maximum value, that the UPS Store could 
take it and sign for it, but that doesn’t seem to be the case any longer.

I’m not deriding UPS, just be aware if you ship an item (like a K3) with 
high-value insurance by UPS,  and have to take it to a Service Center, expect 
them to ask you (you have to do yourself) to open or unpack the item so they 
can inspect it and make sure it isn’t ticking :-)

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Carl Jón Denbow  wrote:
> 
> Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I’ve shipped many high value items 
> with them.  I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at FedEx once. 
> They opened the box because I said the value was about $4000.00.  They had to 
> insure the packing was sufficient.  I’ve avoided them for high-value items 
> ever since. 73 de Carl
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

[Grant Youngman]

I don’t know what the other guys do.  But this has apparently been a UPS policy 
since February for packages  delivered to the Service Center.  Didn’t know 
about it of course, and don’t think there was any kind of warning on the 
website.  Maybe just missed the announcement.   I seem to recall the last time 
I shipped something insured for near maximum value, that the UPS Store could 
take it and sign for it, but that doesn’t seem to be the case any longer.

I’m not deriding UPS, just be aware if you ship an item (like a K3) with 
high-value insurance by UPS,  and have to take it to a Service Center, expect 
them to ask you (you have to do yourself) to open or unpack the item so they 
can inspect it and make sure it isn’t ticking :-)

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Carl Jón Denbow  wrote:
> 
> Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I’ve shipped many high value items 
> with them.  I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at FedEx once. 
> They opened the box because I said the value was about $4000.00.  They had to 
> insure the packing was sufficient.  I’ve avoided them for high-value items 
> ever since. 73 de Carl
> 

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[Elecraft] OT: Shipping

[Ken G Kopp]

In decades we've -never- had a positive interaction with FedEx ... IMO, an
awful company!

Rose (Elecraft Cases & Covers) ships 10 - 20 orders per month via USPS
Priority Mail, and have never had a single issue.  Never more than 3 days
to anywhere in the US.

73!

K0PP

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 13:32 Carl Jón Denbow  wrote:

> Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I’ve shipped many high value
> items with them.  I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at
> FedEx once. They opened the box because I said the value was about
> $4000.00.  They had to insure the packing was sufficient.  I’ve avoided
> them for high-value items ever since. 73 de Carl
>
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> > On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:04 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX 
> wrote:
> >
> > I just took mine to the authorized Fed-X shipping store and let them
> deal with it.  No hassles. Less expensive than UPS and faster service.
> >
> > Bob, K4TAX
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Grant Youngman 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead
> and needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about
> shipping.
> >>
> >> For several good reasons, I just sent my K3 to Elecraft for service for
> the first time ever.  Insured, double boxed, expensive Uline 3” plank foam
> cushion support for the inner carton, etc.   Because I insured it for a
> high value, I was required by UPS to take the carton to the local UPS
> Customer Service Center, not the UPS store, etc. to obtain a signature.
> Don’t know if I’d scheduled a pickup that it would have been the same fire
> drill, but that wasn’t an option for me because of UPS schedules around
> here.
> >>
> >> Got to the UPS Center at the airport  and was told that I had to UNPACK
> ALL of the cartons so they could see what was inside and determine that it
> wasn’t explosives (apparently there was an incident at FedEx back in
> February).   UPS did a sloppy job of retaping everything.  Nothing worse
> than having to cut open carefully packed and sealed containers to prove
> you’re not just another uni-bomber.  I bit my lips and was (mostly)
> friendly about it.  Worse than TSA … because they don’t have the chemical
> detection wipes and X-ray machines that TSA has.   So it’s a bigger than
> average hassle.
> >>
> >> Word to the wise — leave your  cartons untaped, take your tape gun with
> you, and close/tape the containers yourself.  (Maybe I’m the only person
> that didn’t know this was a current UPS policy?)
> >>
> >> Grant NQ5T
> >> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

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Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I’ve shipped many high value items 
with them.  I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at FedEx once. 
They opened the box because I said the value was about $4000.00.  They had to 
insure the packing was sufficient.  I’ve avoided them for high-value items ever 
since. 73 de Carl

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> On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:04 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
> 
> I just took mine to the authorized Fed-X shipping store and let them deal 
> with it.  No hassles. Less expensive than UPS and faster service.  
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
>> 
>> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and 
>> needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping.
>> 
>> For several good reasons, I just sent my K3 to Elecraft for service for the 
>> first time ever.  Insured, double boxed, expensive Uline 3” plank foam 
>> cushion support for the inner carton, etc.   Because I insured it for a high 
>> value, I was required by UPS to take the carton to the local UPS Customer 
>> Service Center, not the UPS store, etc. to obtain a signature.  Don’t know 
>> if I’d scheduled a pickup that it would have been the same fire drill, but 
>> that wasn’t an option for me because of UPS schedules around here.
>> 
>> Got to the UPS Center at the airport  and was told that I had to UNPACK ALL 
>> of the cartons so they could see what was inside and determine that it 
>> wasn’t explosives (apparently there was an incident at FedEx back in 
>> February).   UPS did a sloppy job of retaping everything.  Nothing worse 
>> than having to cut open carefully packed and sealed containers to prove 
>> you’re not just another uni-bomber.  I bit my lips and was (mostly) friendly 
>> about it.  Worse than TSA … because they don’t have the chemical detection 
>> wipes and X-ray machines that TSA has.   So it’s a bigger than  average 
>> hassle.
>> 
>> Word to the wise — leave your  cartons untaped, take your tape gun with you, 
>> and close/tape the containers yourself.  (Maybe I’m the only person that 
>> didn’t know this was a current UPS policy?)
>> 
>> Grant NQ5T
>> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I just took mine to the authorized Fed-X shipping store and let them deal with 
it.  No hassles. Less expensive than UPS and faster service.  

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and 
> needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping.
> 
> For several good reasons, I just sent my K3 to Elecraft for service for the 
> first time ever.  Insured, double boxed, expensive Uline 3” plank foam 
> cushion support for the inner carton, etc.   Because I insured it for a high 
> value, I was required by UPS to take the carton to the local UPS Customer 
> Service Center, not the UPS store, etc. to obtain a signature.  Don’t know if 
> I’d scheduled a pickup that it would have been the same fire drill, but that 
> wasn’t an option for me because of UPS schedules around here.
> 
> Got to the UPS Center at the airport  and was told that I had to UNPACK ALL 
> of the cartons so they could see what was inside and determine that it wasn’t 
> explosives (apparently there was an incident at FedEx back in February).   
> UPS did a sloppy job of retaping everything.  Nothing worse than having to 
> cut open carefully packed and sealed containers to prove you’re not just 
> another uni-bomber.  I bit my lips and was (mostly) friendly about it.  Worse 
> than TSA … because they don’t have the chemical detection wipes and X-ray 
> machines that TSA has.   So it’s a bigger than  average hassle.
> 
> Word to the wise — leave your  cartons untaped, take your tape gun with you, 
> and close/tape the containers yourself.  (Maybe I’m the only person that 
> didn’t know this was a current UPS policy?)
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
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[Elecraft] Elecraft K3/100 - sold

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Hi All,
The K3 has been sold.

Thanks for the inquiries.
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[Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS

[Grant Youngman]

The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and 
needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping.

For several good reasons, I just sent my K3 to Elecraft for service for the 
first time ever.  Insured, double boxed, expensive Uline 3” plank foam cushion 
support for the inner carton, etc.   Because I insured it for a high value, I 
was required by UPS to take the carton to the local UPS Customer Service 
Center, not the UPS store, etc. to obtain a signature.  Don’t know if I’d 
scheduled a pickup that it would have been the same fire drill, but that wasn’t 
an option for me because of UPS schedules around here.

Got to the UPS Center at the airport  and was told that I had to UNPACK ALL of 
the cartons so they could see what was inside and determine that it wasn’t 
explosives (apparently there was an incident at FedEx back in February).   UPS 
did a sloppy job of retaping everything.  Nothing worse than having to cut open 
carefully packed and sealed containers to prove you’re not just another 
uni-bomber.  I bit my lips and was (mostly) friendly about it.  Worse than TSA 
… because they don’t have the chemical detection wipes and X-ray machines that 
TSA has.   So it’s a bigger than  average hassle.

Word to the wise — leave your  cartons untaped, take your tape gun with you, 
and close/tape the containers yourself.  (Maybe I’m the only person that didn’t 
know this was a current UPS policy?)

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

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Re: [Elecraft] My KX2 may be sick

[Paul Smith]

Thanks guys for the words on my KX2. I was watching the volt meter I have on 
the power supply. It dropped to 13V when I keyed the rig then shot up to 13.9 
and sat rock solid. I changed power supplys and all is well now. The little 
radio seems to be happy again. And Thanks Don for the advice on NOT sending the 
rig in. I will check my cables as well,   tnx all de N0NBD Paul Smith

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Re: [Elecraft] My KX2 may be sick

[Don Wilhelm]

Paul,

An ERR KEY message normally only occurs on power up, and indicates that 
a key contact is closed or a PTT switch is closed.


I suggest that you remove all cables from the KX2 except for the antenna 
and power and see if the message is still present.
If it is gone, then plug each cable in until it occurs.  When you find 
the offending cable, test it and repair it.


In most cases, there is nothing wrong with the transceiver, but the 
problem is with external cables.  It would not be good to send it to 
Elecraft for repair only to find a report of No Trouble Found and an 
invoice for $99 plus shipping.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/25/2018 9:46 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

Last night after working a couple SKCC guys on 3550 my KX2 just shut down and 
said on the display err key. I could not get it to do anything so I sent the 
configure file to it. It seemed to be ok but shut down again a few minutes 
later. It has done the same thing twice this morning. A cheep led volt meter 
reads that the power supply drops to 13.6 volts while transmitting. What the 
heck do I need to look for or is my radio number 855  wanting a roadtrip to the 
home factory?

Thanks in advance de Paul N0NBD

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Re: [Elecraft] My KX2 may be sick

[Walter Underwood]

Look up “ERR KEY” in the Troubleshooting section of your KX2 manual. 

In my KX3 manual, it says this:

“Usually caused by an incorrect setting of MENU:MIC
BTN for the current microphone, or an external device
shorting the KEY or PTT line to ground, or a shorted
KXPD3 keyer paddle. Turn power off, then disconnect the
KXPD3 (if applicable) and everything plugged into the
left side panel, except for the power supply. Turn power
back on. Plug devices back in one at a time to see which
one caused the error.”

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 6:46 AM, Paul Smith  wrote:
> 
> Last night after working a couple SKCC guys on 3550 my KX2 just shut down and 
> said on the display err key. I could not get it to do anything so I sent the 
> configure file to it. It seemed to be ok but shut down again a few minutes 
> later. It has done the same thing twice this morning. A cheep led volt meter 
> reads that the power supply drops to 13.6 volts while transmitting. What the 
> heck do I need to look for or is my radio number 855  wanting a roadtrip to 
> the home factory?
> 
> Thanks in advance de Paul N0NBD
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] My KX2 may be sick

[Paul Smith]

Last night after working a couple SKCC guys on 3550 my KX2 just shut down and 
said on the display err key. I could not get it to do anything so I sent the 
configure file to it. It seemed to be ok but shut down again a few minutes 
later. It has done the same thing twice this morning. A cheep led volt meter 
reads that the power supply drops to 13.6 volts while transmitting. What the 
heck do I need to look for or is my radio number 855  wanting a roadtrip to the 
home factory?

Thanks in advance de Paul N0NBD


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