[Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500

2018-10-16 Thread Erik Basilier
The KPA1500 is right now outside my budget, but there is nothing wrong with
dreaming and planning, right? The latest QST reviews the new Palstar amp,
which first seemed attractive, but I soon noticed that its continuous
carrier capacity is no better than the KPA500. Also, when you add the price
of the matching tuner, you are looking at a total price of $5k, which makes
the full legal power KPA1500 with included tuner look good at $6k. However,
what does dampen my enthusiasm is that the KPA1500 tuner handles swr only up
to 3:1 at full power. My main 40m antenna meets that requirement over a
significant portion of the band, but at band edges swr can be 4.5:1 or so.
The lower bands are where high power is most commonly needed, so it doesn't
make much sense to upgrade from my KPA500 only to have to throttle back to
500W on 40m. That begs the question exactly how much power the KPA1500 tuner
can handle on 40m. Also, it would be desirable to use higher power on the
portion of the band where swr does stay under 3:1. I could set the power to
a lower value on the K3 for 40m, but it would be helpful to be able to set
the power separately for different band segments. The actual power limit at
a higher swr probably depends on the actual impedance presented to the
tuner, and not just the swr value. One could perhaps use an antenna analyzer
to measure the complex impedance at different frequencies within the band,
and then program different drive power levels for the corresponding band
segments (if that capability were implemented). Maybe a future tuner design
could incorporate sensing of complex load impedance and signal the
transceiver to limit drive power accordingly. Or, instead of basing it on
load impedance, the design could directly measure voltages and currents
within the tuner to prevent excessive voltages and currents from being
produced (not dynamically a la ALC, but as a calibration using steady
carrier). 

73,
Erik K7TV

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[Elecraft] KPA-1500 failure

2018-10-16 Thread Paul Baldock
A friend of mine's KPA-1500 has just failed. It behaves like half the 
PA has died, with max output power about 900W, and requiring 
excessive drive to get that. He has calls in to service but no 
response yet. Has anybody experienced such a failure?


Thanks

- Paul  KW7Y

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[Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-16 Thread ANDY DURBIN
"If you can figure out how to keep the relatively thin "Z" panel from expanding 
and contracting as it is heated and cooled, you will have a solution to the 
problem."


If the Z bracket really is the source of the noise, and I'm not yet convinced 
it is, then there is no need to stop it expanding and contracting. All that is 
needed is to change the mechanical interface between the Z bracket and whatever 
is binding and releasing to cause the clicks.


My plan was to put thin Mylar sheet between the Z bracket and the parts to 
which it is attached. I was going to start with the Z bracket to heat sink 
interface. I was not willing to do that until I had characterized the Z bracket 
temperature dynamics and understood the heat flow between the Z bracket and the 
heat sink. I have the data but no longer have the clicks.


73,

Andy k3wyc
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

All,

If you can figure out how to keep the relatively thin "Z" panel from 
expanding and contracting as it is heated and cooled, you will have a 
solution to the problem.


It reminds me of my childhood days living with a coal furnace.  The 
furnace had an inner cast iron furnace surrounded by a sheet metal shell 
as the air plenum.
It was comforting on a cold winter's morning to hear that sheet metal 
expanding because that was the 1st indication that warm air was coming.


It was my job to shake down the ashes, put coal in and stoke up the fire 
in the mornings.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/16/2018 5:59 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

I do run 400 watts or so on digital modes.  Issues are not really noted on SSB 
or CW modes.

I've set the Fan Ctr to 2 and 3 and still noted the issue

Was recently showing my K Line to some hams friends. They commented rather 
negatively on the point.

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2018, at 4:52 PM, Dauer, Edward  wrote:


I've not experienced the problem with kit-built S/N 0651.  But then, I have 
never used it on high duty cycle data modes.

Ted, KN1CBR



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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:13:55 -0700
From: Dennis Moore 
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
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I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if
those with the kit experience more noise than those with factory
assembled units?

Dennis NJ6G



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-16 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I do run 400 watts or so on digital modes.  Issues are not really noted on SSB 
or CW modes. 

I've set the Fan Ctr to 2 and 3 and still noted the issue 

Was recently showing my K Line to some hams friends. They commented rather 
negatively on the point.  

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2018, at 4:52 PM, Dauer, Edward  wrote:
> 
> 
> I've not experienced the problem with kit-built S/N 0651.  But then, I have 
> never used it on high duty cycle data modes.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> 
> 
> 
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> 
>Message: 25
>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:13:55 -0700
>From: Dennis Moore 
>To: Elecraft Reflector 
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
>Message-ID: <0497f5c1-6e76-75be-53c4-4acf668d9...@mail4life.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
>I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if 
>those with the kit experience more noise than those with factory 
>assembled units?
> 
>Dennis NJ6G
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-16 Thread Jim Brown

On 10/16/2018 1:56 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
I've tried to determine where the clicks originate without success. 


This is a much discussed issue. Check the archive. Call or email 
Elecraft if you want to know more.


73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-16 Thread Dauer, Edward
 
I've not experienced the problem with kit-built S/N 0651.  But then, I have 
never used it on high duty cycle data modes.

Ted, KN1CBR



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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:13:55 -0700
From: Dennis Moore 
To: Elecraft Reflector 
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I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if 
those with the kit experience more noise than those with factory 
assembled units?

Dennis NJ6G

 

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[Elecraft] W2 wattmeter for sale

2018-10-16 Thread Doug Shields
Hello everyone,

  I have an excellent condition Elecraft W2 wattmeter for sale.  It has
the 200 watt HF +6 meter coupler.  I will include the coupler cable, RS-232
data cable, 12V DC power cable with powerpole connector installed, and the
original owner's manual.  There are no issues with the meter.  $250 shipped
and insured to any US destination.  I can accept payments through Paypal,
cash, check, or money order.

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-16 Thread AB4IQ
Mine was a kit and does the same thing.  Sort of like Railroad Welded Rail,  in 
the summer it expands and shrinks in the winter.  We had the same issue with #6 
solid copper on the communications lines.  It only does it on the KPA500 when I 
do a lot of RTTY or FT8.  Very seldom on SSB or CW.

ED..AB4IQ

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if those 
with the kit experience more noise than those with factory assembled units?

Dennis NJ6G


On 10/14/2018 19:52, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> What is the recommended solution to stopping the clicks and pops from 
> the KPA500 as the amp heats during transmission and cools during 
> receive?  I've seen one that suggested replacing the screws in the Z 
> bracket with 4-40 x 1/4".Any traction to this?
>
> The amp performs absolutely fantastic.  The clicks and pops are more 
> annoying when working high duty cycle modes.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
> KPA500 s/n 3519

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-16 Thread KENT TRIMBLE

Mine was a kit (sn 267) and I've never heard any noises from it whatever.

Kent  K9ZTV



On 10/16/2018 4:13 PM, Dennis Moore wrote:
I wonder if those with the kit experience more noise than those with 
factory assembled units?






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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-16 Thread Bill Johnson
I did a FT on the device and never an issue.  Building requires a bit of 
electro mechanical skills that some do not have.  When I read the issues, I 
wonder about how it was built or modified.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:14 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if those 
with the kit experience more noise than those with factory assembled units?

Dennis NJ6G


On 10/14/2018 19:52, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> What is the recommended solution to stopping the clicks and pops from 
> the KPA500 as the amp heats during transmission and cools during 
> receive?  I've seen one that suggested replacing the screws in the Z 
> bracket with 4-40 x 1/4".    Any traction to this?
>
> The amp performs absolutely fantastic.  The clicks and pops are more 
> annoying when working high duty cycle modes.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
> KPA500 s/n 3519

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-16 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX

Mine is a KPA500-F s/n 3519 thus it is factory assembled.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/16/2018 4:13 PM, Dennis Moore wrote:
I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if 
those with the kit experience more noise than those with factory 
assembled units?


Dennis NJ6G


On 10/14/2018 19:52, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
What is the recommended solution to stopping the clicks and pops from 
the KPA500 as the amp heats during transmission and cools during 
receive?  I've seen one that suggested replacing the screws in the Z 
bracket with 4-40 x 1/4".    Any traction to this?


The amp performs absolutely fantastic.  The clicks and pops are more 
annoying when working high duty cycle modes.


Thanks in advance.

73

Bob, K4TAX

KPA500 s/n 3519 


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-16 Thread Dennis Moore
I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if 
those with the kit experience more noise than those with factory 
assembled units?


Dennis NJ6G


On 10/14/2018 19:52, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
What is the recommended solution to stopping the clicks and pops from 
the KPA500 as the amp heats during transmission and cools during 
receive?  I've seen one that suggested replacing the screws in the Z 
bracket with 4-40 x 1/4".    Any traction to this?


The amp performs absolutely fantastic.  The clicks and pops are more 
annoying when working high duty cycle modes.


Thanks in advance.

73

Bob, K4TAX

KPA500 s/n 3519 


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-16 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I've tried to determine where the clicks originate without success.  
I've loosened screws on the top and right side and tightened screws on 
the top and right side.  No difference. Perhaps someone at Elecraft will 
add a comment in this regard.


I did observe that the 5 screws at the center of the top cover are 
longer than the others.   I'm really at a loss as to the somewhat 
annoying Rice Krispies Snap Crackle and Pop.    Still love the amp in 
all other aspects.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/16/2018 8:52 AM, ANDY DURBIN wrote:

I found this quite annoying too.  My approach was to try to understand how the 
Z bracket temperature varied relative to the heat sink temperature.  I placed a 
thermistor on the front end of the Z bracket and another on the heat sink fin 
closest to the Z bracket.  I logged the standard PA temperature and these 
additional thermistor temperatures for every transmission I made (still do).   
I established baseline temperature characteristics and planned to use this data 
to see if any mods I made changed the characteristics.


Surprise!  -  When I though I had enough data to move on to the next step in 
the investigation it stopped clicking.


Adding the thermistors only required removal of the front panel and the Z 
bracket screws were no touched.   It continued to click after the thermistors 
were added and then stopped a few weeks later.


The data show the rapid change in temperature is at the PA sensor only.  The 
heat sink and Z bracket change much more slowly and never have a large 
temperature difference.  Their temperatures do cross over though.


One problem with temperature logging is that I had no data, except for my test 
notes , on the clicks themselves.  I had planned to added some inexpensive 
sound detection modules and add this data to the logger.  That's on hold until 
the clicks come back.


It's really nice not to have the amp click continuously on every FT8 
transmission.  I wish I knew what fixed it.


73,

Andy k3wyc
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Short whip operating tips

2018-10-16 Thread Carl Jón Denbow
How are folks ordering this antenna?  The web site says “coming soon” with no 
place to order it now.  I signed up at Dayton for the advanced notice list, but 
never got notified.  Are these early orders coming from that list?

73,

Carl

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> Having operated pedestrian mobile many times, I’d like to offer a few 
> suggestions for those new to the use of short whips (like the AX1). These and 
> other tips appear in the AX1 manual. 
> 
> * Elevate the antenna whenever possible. For example, if you’re using a KX2, 
> HT-style, your transmitted signal will almost always be stronger if you’re 
> standing rather than sitting on the ground. (Exception: sitting on the edge 
> of a cliff is probably just as good as standing. Don’t do anything risky :)
> 
> * Initially, try to find strong stations to call (S7 or higher), especially 
> when using SSB. High signal strength at your end is often indicative of good 
> propagation and/or that the station is using a gain antenna. 
> 
> * Try the higher-frequency bands first. 17 meters in particular is an 
> outstanding QRP band. When I call strong stations on this band using 10 W SSB 
> and the AX1, my success rate is something like 80%.
> 
> * ALWAYS use a counterpoise wire (one is supplied with the AX1). Otherwise 
> your transmitted signal will be down as much as 20 dB.
> 
> * If you use the AX1 with the AXT1 tripod adapter, use a short length of 
> coax, especially on 17 and 15 m were the rig’s ATU is required to achieve 
> resonance.
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> Happy hiking— 
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Re: [Elecraft] AX-1

2018-10-16 Thread Wayne Burdick
Thanks for the report, Thaire. 

As we recommend in the AX1 owners manual, it’s a good idea to also bring along 
wire for a tree-based antenna for times when conditions are very poor, and/or 
you have more time to set up.

Have fun!

Wayne
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> On Oct 16, 2018, at 8:59 AM, Thaire Bryant  wrote:
> 
> I received my new AX-1 yesterday at noon at the post office in New Hampshire. 
>  By 1:30 (1700 UTC) I had it set up on a 4’ tripod on the deck, the 
> counterpoise attached to the KX3 and with 10 watts worked LZ and HA on 20 M 
> CW!
> 
> Wayne, thank you!  This will be my new SOTA antenna.
> 
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[Elecraft] Short whip operating tips

2018-10-16 Thread Wayne Burdick
Having operated pedestrian mobile many times, I’d like to offer a few 
suggestions for those new to the use of short whips (like the AX1). These and 
other tips appear in the AX1 manual. 

* Elevate the antenna whenever possible. For example, if you’re using a KX2, 
HT-style, your transmitted signal will almost always be stronger if you’re 
standing rather than sitting on the ground. (Exception: sitting on the edge of 
a cliff is probably just as good as standing. Don’t do anything risky :)

* Initially, try to find strong stations to call (S7 or higher), especially 
when using SSB. High signal strength at your end is often indicative of good 
propagation and/or that the station is using a gain antenna. 

* Try the higher-frequency bands first. 17 meters in particular is an 
outstanding QRP band. When I call strong stations on this band using 10 W SSB 
and the AX1, my success rate is something like 80%.

* ALWAYS use a counterpoise wire (one is supplied with the AX1). Otherwise your 
transmitted signal will be down as much as 20 dB.

* If you use the AX1 with the AXT1 tripod adapter, use a short length of coax, 
especially on 17 and 15 m were the rig’s ATU is required to achieve resonance.

Happy hiking— 

Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] AX-1

2018-10-16 Thread Thaire Bryant
I received my new AX-1 yesterday at noon at the post office in New Hampshire.  
By 1:30 (1700 UTC) I had it set up on a 4’ tripod on the deck, the counterpoise 
attached to the KX3 and with 10 watts worked LZ and HA on 20 M CW!

Wayne, thank you!  This will be my new SOTA antenna.

Thaire. W2APF
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Re: [Elecraft] Re(3): dxlab

2018-10-16 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Do not click on the possibly dangerous link from this spam that was sent to the 
Elecraft list.


Apparently the spam sender is spoofing KB3ILS's email address, or has hacked his 
email program.


We have temporarily put the kb3...@comcast.net email address in list moderation 
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[Elecraft] K3 2878 no rx (sort of)

2018-10-16 Thread Martin

Elecrafters,
after a long qso on uhf i returned to my muted K3 (soon to be 10 years 
old) , cranked up the volume and heard...zzz.


No audio from the speaker or headphone. RX was ok, i could see signals 
on the LP-Pan ,TX ok, power out ok. Power cycle didn't help.


A slap on the cover imediatelly restored rx/audio to normal level. What 
problem am i experiencing here? Is ist the front panel pin header?


--

Ohne CW ist es nur CB..

73, Martin DM4iM
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[Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-16 Thread ANDY DURBIN
I found this quite annoying too.  My approach was to try to understand how the 
Z bracket temperature varied relative to the heat sink temperature.  I placed a 
thermistor on the front end of the Z bracket and another on the heat sink fin 
closest to the Z bracket.  I logged the standard PA temperature and these 
additional thermistor temperatures for every transmission I made (still do).   
I established baseline temperature characteristics and planned to use this data 
to see if any mods I made changed the characteristics.


Surprise!  -  When I though I had enough data to move on to the next step in 
the investigation it stopped clicking.


Adding the thermistors only required removal of the front panel and the Z 
bracket screws were no touched.   It continued to click after the thermistors 
were added and then stopped a few weeks later.


The data show the rapid change in temperature is at the PA sensor only.  The 
heat sink and Z bracket change much more slowly and never have a large 
temperature difference.  Their temperatures do cross over though.


One problem with temperature logging is that I had no data, except for my test 
notes , on the clicks themselves.  I had planned to added some inexpensive 
sound detection modules and add this data to the logger.  That's on hold until 
the clicks come back.


It's really nice not to have the amp click continuously on every FT8 
transmission.  I wish I knew what fixed it.


73,

Andy k3wyc
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[Elecraft] Re(3): dxlab

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