Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Spontaneous HI CURR, audio reduction in RX mode

2019-02-05 Thread Nr4c
The phones jack does not have that restriction. Only the Speaker jack. They 
have different audio path. 

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> On Feb 5, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Mike K8CN  wrote:
> 
> I believe I found a potential answer in the K3 manual (to my embarrassment, I
> should have looked there first, eh?) under the Troubleshooting section,
> Receive mode:
> 
> "HI CUR or SPKRS=1 warning: HI CUR may indicate a shorted left speaker
> channel; the K3 will
> reduce AF gain."
> 
> Funny thing is that I don't use the internal speaker, just headphones
> connected via the rear panel PHONES jack, and have never plugged anything
> into the external speaker jack...I guess I'll unbutton the case and see
> if any wiring is awry.  The intermittency of the HI CUR warning in receive
> mode is puzzling - if there's a shorted audio channel, I would think it
> would stay shorted unless my headphones have an intermittent short on one
> side.
> 
> Thanks, too, to Joe, 4Z7JBA, for his offline suggestion of another potential
> cause for the observed behavior in receive mode.  
> 
> Mike, K8CN
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Spontaneous HI CURR, audio reduction in RX mode

2019-02-05 Thread Mike K8CN
With thanks to Björn SM7IUN and Mike VP8NO for pointing me to the firmware
revision notes, I checked my installed firmware and the K3 Utility and find
them to be fully up to date.  I'll go quiet on this issue until I've had a
chance to reload the firmware and open the case to explore the board
connectors.  I appreciate the guidance from those with better memories of
firmware revision notes!

73,
Mike, K8CN



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Re: [Elecraft] Using SunSDR2 pro with KPA500

2019-02-05 Thread W4IEN
You might want to try the forums for the SDR  radios because their have been 
discussions on this very topic.  Hope this helps.

72/73,
EM73vx
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> On Feb 5, 2019, at 18:37, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Stephen,
> 
> What is needed is a KeyOut from the driving transceiver - that is an output 
> which is grounded when the driving transceiver goes to transmit.
> The KPA500 will frequency sense if it receives a short burst of RF, so the 
> band data is not necessary, just connect the transverter and amplifier in the 
> Basic Configuration.
> 
> You will have to consult with the SDR transceiver folks to see if there is a 
> KeyOut connector (I did not see one when I looked a some of the ads).  
> Without that, the SunSDR2 cannot key any amplifier.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 2/5/2019 1:15 PM, Stephen Prior wrote:
>> Does anyone have any experience of fully interfacing this SDR with the
>> KPA500 please?  I confess to be rather confused.  I am looking to configure
>> the Ext Ctrl tables with the BCD values that the KPA500 requires for band
>> switching etc.  I understand what BCD is, but in this context I'm confused
>> as to how to define it in the SDR's setup.
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Re: [Elecraft] Using SunSDR2 pro with KPA500

2019-02-05 Thread Don Wilhelm

Stephen,

What is needed is a KeyOut from the driving transceiver - that is an 
output which is grounded when the driving transceiver goes to transmit.
The KPA500 will frequency sense if it receives a short burst of RF, so 
the band data is not necessary, just connect the transverter and 
amplifier in the Basic Configuration.


You will have to consult with the SDR transceiver folks to see if there 
is a KeyOut connector (I did not see one when I looked a some of the 
ads).  Without that, the SunSDR2 cannot key any amplifier.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/5/2019 1:15 PM, Stephen Prior wrote:

Does anyone have any experience of fully interfacing this SDR with the
KPA500 please?  I confess to be rather confused.  I am looking to configure
the Ext Ctrl tables with the BCD values that the KPA500 requires for band
switching etc.  I understand what BCD is, but in this context I'm confused
as to how to define it in the SDR's setup.

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[Elecraft] HI Current

2019-02-05 Thread Mike Harris via Elecraft

From the firmware release notes:


K3 MCU 5.66 / DSP 2.88 / FPF 1.26, 11-28-2018

* ADDED SWR READ COMMAND:  "SW;" returns the most recent SWR reading in 
transmit or TUNE mode, e.g. "SW023;" for an SWR of 2.3:1. Max value 
returned is "SW99;" (SWR = 99.9:1).


K3 MCU 5.64 / DSP 2.88 / FPF 1.26, 2-22-2018

* RCV MODE "HI CUR" THRESHOLD CHANGED:  The threshold at which "HI CUR" 
(excessive current drain) warnings appear in receive mode has been 
increased. Some users with all options enabled (including the sub 
receiver, internal transverter, and K-Pod) were seeing spurious HI-CUR 
warnings and disabling of one speaker channel.



Enjoy,

Mike VP8NO
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Spontaneous HI CURR, audio reduction in RX mode

2019-02-05 Thread Björn Ekelund
Mike,

do you have the latest firmware? I believe a similar issue was mentioned in
a firmware update.
I have experienced it myself at SK3W on a station with an outdated
firmware.

73,

Björn SM7IUN


Den tis 5 feb. 2019 kl 19:47 skrev Mike K8CN :

> I believe I found a potential answer in the K3 manual (to my
> embarrassment, I
> should have looked there first, eh?) under the Troubleshooting section,
> Receive mode:
>
> "HI CUR or SPKRS=1 warning: HI CUR may indicate a shorted left speaker
> channel; the K3 will
> reduce AF gain."
>
> Funny thing is that I don't use the internal speaker, just headphones
> connected via the rear panel PHONES jack, and have never plugged anything
> into the external speaker jack...I guess I'll unbutton the case and see
> if any wiring is awry.  The intermittency of the HI CUR warning in receive
> mode is puzzling - if there's a shorted audio channel, I would think it
> would stay shorted unless my headphones have an intermittent short on one
> side.
>
> Thanks, too, to Joe, 4Z7JBA, for his offline suggestion of another
> potential
> cause for the observed behavior in receive mode.
>
> Mike, K8CN
>
>
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[Elecraft] How to get a pgm like MSHV or WSJTx to read the K3 Sub-Rx QRG ?

2019-02-05 Thread Bob KD7YZ
So I have two programs running to decode FT8.

By using Left and right chan of the audio (tnx N5TM), the two iterations
of WSJTX can decode the K3 Rx USB Codec 2-Chan-48k audio individually.

Now I would like that WSJTX of the Right-Chan on the Sub-Rx to know the
frequency.

Personally, I am using DxLabSuite's "Commander" to control the K3 ...
and when running this way, I see that Commander "VFO-B" sees the correct
freq.

Anyway, I can't get that QRG out of Commander, but that's alright. I
sent a screenshot if they make it to the list. I also tried to guess a
way outside of "Commander' to make WSJTX read the Sub Band, but cvan't
do that either .

Thus, my question to y'all



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Spontaneous HI CURR, audio reduction in RX mode

2019-02-05 Thread Mike K8CN
I believe I found a potential answer in the K3 manual (to my embarrassment, I
should have looked there first, eh?) under the Troubleshooting section,
Receive mode:

"HI CUR or SPKRS=1 warning: HI CUR may indicate a shorted left speaker
channel; the K3 will
reduce AF gain."

Funny thing is that I don't use the internal speaker, just headphones
connected via the rear panel PHONES jack, and have never plugged anything
into the external speaker jack...I guess I'll unbutton the case and see
if any wiring is awry.  The intermittency of the HI CUR warning in receive
mode is puzzling - if there's a shorted audio channel, I would think it
would stay shorted unless my headphones have an intermittent short on one
side.

Thanks, too, to Joe, 4Z7JBA, for his offline suggestion of another potential
cause for the observed behavior in receive mode.  

Mike, K8CN



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[Elecraft] Using SunSDR2 pro with KPA500

2019-02-05 Thread Stephen Prior
Does anyone have any experience of fully interfacing this SDR with the
KPA500 please?  I confess to be rather confused.  I am looking to configure
the Ext Ctrl tables with the BCD values that the KPA500 requires for band
switching etc.  I understand what BCD is, but in this context I'm confused
as to how to define it in the SDR's setup.

Thanks and 73

Stephen, G4SJP
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 display

2019-02-05 Thread Gwen Patton
Ok, try holding the menu/labels button at the lower right of the px3 to
change the bottom labels selection. It cycles through options, too. You
should get an option with no bottom labels and no text box.

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 10:14 AM Joseph Trombino, Jr  Thought I found the correct adjustment by going to MENU item “Height of
> waterfall display”.
>
> I got the full screen I wanted…but after I turned the KX3 on the large
> full screen changed to about half size.
>
> Tried gain several times without success…I can’t seem to replicate the
> full screen I want.
>
> Am thoroughly confused now so any help is really appreciated.
>
> 73, Joe W2KJ
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Re: [Elecraft] Tx distortion

2019-02-05 Thread mustang65
Don,

I missed that the collector q6  must be the most ineresting pin to look at
and when tuning on 80 meters there is a nice 3.8 Mhz sinuswave.

73 Mike sm3xgm



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Re: [Elecraft] Tx distortion

2019-02-05 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

There is very little change in current for the low level stages between 
receive and transmit, but the RF amplifier stages Q5 thru Q8 draw more 
current in transmit.


Have you checked your power supply to make sure it is not producing 
ripple or low voltage during transmit.  A low power supply voltage will 
increase the IMD significantly.
Check the power supply connections as well.  Monitor the voltage the K2 
sees during transmit by using the K2 display function rather than 
measuring the power supply voltage directly.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/5/2019 6:26 AM, mustang65 wrote:

Don,

I forgott to mention that I do not have the k60xv option but that hade been
a nice way
to rule out the powerstage.

  I wonder   can there be any circuit that draws more current in Tx then Rx
and causing rippel on the
dc voltage during tx but not rx due to a cap that has lost capacitans?

Have replaced all el. caps. on the ksb2 board but not any on the other
boards.


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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 display

2019-02-05 Thread Joseph Trombino, Jr
Thought I found the correct adjustment by going to MENU item “Height of 
waterfall display”.

I got the full screen I wanted…but after I turned the KX3 on the large full 
screen changed to about half size.

Tried gain several times without success…I can’t seem to replicate the full 
screen I want.

Am thoroughly confused now so any help is really appreciated.

73, Joe W2KJ
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 display

2019-02-05 Thread Dale Boresz
Tap the the "Display / Average" button in the upper right corner of the PX3

73,
Dale - WA8SRA


On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 9:45 AM Joseph Trombino, Jr 
wrote:

> Howdy Gang.
>
> Recently picked up a nice PX3 to use with my KX3 and have been playing
> with the menu options but can’t seem to find the one I want.
>
> I’d like to make the upper frequency portion of the display full screen….I
> don’t need the bottom waterfall.
>
> Is this possible?
>
> Seems like largest screen I can get is about 1/2 size.
>
> Am I missing a menu option?
>
> Appreciate any info/assistance.
>
> 73, Joe W2KJ
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 display

2019-02-05 Thread Gwen Patton
Did you try the "Disp" button on the top right of the PX3?

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 9:45 AM Joseph Trombino, Jr 
wrote:

> Howdy Gang.
>
> Recently picked up a nice PX3 to use with my KX3 and have been playing
> with the menu options but can’t seem to find the one I want.
>
> I’d like to make the upper frequency portion of the display full screen….I
> don’t need the bottom waterfall.
>
> Is this possible?
>
> Seems like largest screen I can get is about 1/2 size.
>
> Am I missing a menu option?
>
> Appreciate any info/assistance.
>
> 73, Joe W2KJ
>
>
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[Elecraft] PX3 display

2019-02-05 Thread Joseph Trombino, Jr
Howdy Gang.

Recently picked up a nice PX3 to use with my KX3 and have been playing with the 
menu options but can’t seem to find the one I want.

I’d like to make the upper frequency portion of the display full screen….I 
don’t need the bottom waterfall.

Is this possible?

Seems like largest screen I can get is about 1/2 size.

Am I missing a menu option?

Appreciate any info/assistance.

73, Joe W2KJ


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[Elecraft] Subrx COR

2019-02-05 Thread TJ Campie
Exactly how much signal is required to activate the subrx COR?
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Re: [Elecraft] Tx distortion

2019-02-05 Thread mustang65
Don,

I forgott to mention that I do not have the k60xv option but that hade been
a nice way
to rule out the powerstage.

 I wonder   can there be any circuit that draws more current in Tx then Rx
and causing rippel on the
dc voltage during tx but not rx due to a cap that has lost capacitans?

Have replaced all el. caps. on the ksb2 board but not any on the other
boards.

73 Mike sm3xgm



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Re: [Elecraft] Tx distortion

2019-02-05 Thread mustang65
Jim,
Thanks for the advice. It is also my experiece that electrolytic caps are
the main reasen for mailfunction
specially in a bit older electronic euqvipment. I have replaced all el.caps
in the ksb2 board but not any
on the other boards mostly because I beleive they are commen with receiving.
On the other hand can there be any circuit that draws more current in Tx
then Rx and start rippel on the
dc voltage ?

73 Mike sm3xgm 



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Re: [Elecraft] Tx distortion

2019-02-05 Thread mustang65
Don,
Thanks for all help.
I have measured on q5,q6,q7 when it been resting over night and when it is
warm
and the difference is smal.

q5 base cold )7,9 varm 7,9
q6 base 1,04 emitter 0,28 varm base 1,03 emitter 031 caculeted gives Ic
200mA Pdissipation 2,8W

q7 cold bas 0,658varm 0,647
All in ssb with no modulation.

I looked with he scope on the base of q5,q6,q7 on the3.8 MHz signal in
tuning
and on  q5 I have a nice sinuswave but on q6 it lookslike a sampled digital
sinuswave
a sinus stairway. On q7 base the positiv side hase roud sinuswave form but
the negativ
side is like a saw vawe sharp edge.
Maybe the scope loads the signal down I do not no the cap. of the probe but
guess it is
about 16pF.

The strange thing is way there is almost no distotion when it been resting
over the night
but comes in after a couple of minutes transmitting.
I put it out in the cold for a while but the distortion was still there even
if it was cold
so it do  not looks like it is the temp more like a old care battery that
almost empty but will
get back a little power resting a night even if you do not charge it.

I have replaced the electrolytic caps on
the ksb2 board but can there be bad caps on the controlboard
that effects transmitt but maybe receive just a little?

I been thinking if there is a problem with the bfo or vco it should effect
Rx as mutch as Tx.

73 Mike sm3xgm






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