Re: [Elecraft] KIO2 RS-232 to USB?

[Dave]

Also a lot of people have issues with Prolific chipset USB cables, especially 
on Windows 10. The cables with FTDI chipset are much more reliable.

Dave wo2x


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From: Jack Brindle via Elecraft
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 1:18 AM
To: K2bew
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO2 RS-232 to USB?

Be absolutely sure to use the cable as described in the K2’s KIO2 manual to 
connect the K2 to the USB adapter. Using a straight-through cable will cause 
damage to the K2.

73!
Jack, W6FB


> On Feb 14, 2019, at 7:08 PM, K2bew  wrote:
> 
> My computer does not have a 9 pin serial port. I have a 9 pin to USB
> prolific cable/adapter that I use to connect my Ten-Tec RX320, that also
> has a 9 pin serial port, to the computers USB.
> The manual for the KIO2  says you can use a 24 pin to 9 pin adapter, but it
> does not mention connecting to USB. Since the cable is so specialized for
> the KIO2 to K2 can I connect it with the 9pin to USB prolific cable? I
> don't want to short anything out etc...
> 
> Thanks and 73,
> Tom Bewick, k2bew
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO2 RS-232 to USB?

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

Be absolutely sure to use the cable as described in the K2’s KIO2 manual to 
connect the K2 to the USB adapter. Using a straight-through cable will cause 
damage to the K2.

73!
Jack, W6FB


> On Feb 14, 2019, at 7:08 PM, K2bew  wrote:
> 
> My computer does not have a 9 pin serial port. I have a 9 pin to USB
> prolific cable/adapter that I use to connect my Ten-Tec RX320, that also
> has a 9 pin serial port, to the computers USB.
> The manual for the KIO2  says you can use a 24 pin to 9 pin adapter, but it
> does not mention connecting to USB. Since the cable is so specialized for
> the KIO2 to K2 can I connect it with the 9pin to USB prolific cable? I
> don't want to short anything out etc...
> 
> Thanks and 73,
> Tom Bewick, k2bew
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO2 RS-232 to USB?

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

>From experience I find the units from R T Systems are 100% reliable. Much more 
>so than the office supplies, electronics stores, Walmart and such. Plus if you 
>have questions, a phone call allows one to speak with a real person in the 
>USA. 

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Feb 14, 2019, at 10:14 PM, K1FFX  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Tom -
> 
> I don't have the specific DB9 to USB adapter that you have, but do this one:
> 
> https://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/Serial-Cards-Adapters/1-Port-USB-Serial-RS232-Adapter-Cable~ICUSB2321F
> 
> which I use with both the KIO2 as well as the DB9 port on the KPA100 and it
> works great.
> 
> From what I've read, the FTDI chipset, which the Startech product
> implements, is the best choice in this application.
> 
> Best -
> 
> Bruce K1FFX
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Bruce Rosen
> K1FFX
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO2 RS-232 to USB?

[K1FFX]

Hi, Tom -

I don't have the specific DB9 to USB adapter that you have, but do this one:

https://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/Serial-Cards-Adapters/1-Port-USB-Serial-RS232-Adapter-Cable~ICUSB2321F

which I use with both the KIO2 as well as the DB9 port on the KPA100 and it
works great.

>From what I've read, the FTDI chipset, which the Startech product
implements, is the best choice in this application.

Best -

Bruce K1FFX




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[Elecraft] KIO2 RS-232 to USB?

[K2bew]

My computer does not have a 9 pin serial port. I have a 9 pin to USB
prolific cable/adapter that I use to connect my Ten-Tec RX320, that also
has a 9 pin serial port, to the computers USB.
The manual for the KIO2  says you can use a 24 pin to 9 pin adapter, but it
does not mention connecting to USB. Since the cable is so specialized for
the KIO2 to K2 can I connect it with the 9pin to USB prolific cable? I
don't want to short anything out etc...

Thanks and 73,
Tom Bewick, k2bew
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Re: [Elecraft] Bodnar GPS Question

[Grant Youngman]

Thanks everyone for the replies.  I set it to the lowest output level (8 dB), 
and it appears to be working just fine.  

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

> On Feb 14, 2019, at 2:36 PM, Dave Van Wallaghen  wrote:
> 
> Grant,
> 
> I just bought one of those a few months ago. I don't have it in front of me, 
> but as I remember, the default output from the Bodnar unit was exactly in 
> range of what is required by the K3. I didn't have to change anything in the 
> setup to get it working correctly with my K3.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 73,
> Dave W8FGU
> 
> On 2/14/2019 1:35:59 PM, "Grant Youngman"  wrote:
> 
>> To reduce the overall footprint of “stuff” around here, I’ve purchased a 
>> Bodnar GPS to replace a Trimble Thunderbolt, open frame power supply, and 
>> status display for use with my K3.
>> 
>> Is there a recommended output level from the Bodnar for the K3?  it seems 
>> the lowest level should work ok, but just checking in case I don’t 
>> understand something .. which is probably more likely than not.
>> 
>> 
>> Grant NQ5T
>> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
>> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Bodnar GPS Question

[Joe DeVincentis]

I have one of these and set it to 8mA output for several years with no problem. 
 I chose it based on the following:

From the K3EXREF manual

Connect the external 10 MHz signal source to the rear panel REF. connector. The 
10 MHz source
should have a signal level between +4 dBm and +16 dBm, nominal. For square wave 
sources, 2VDC to
3.3VDC peak is optimum. If the source is a 5V logic level, use a 50-ohm 
resistor in series with the
input. Caution: To avoid damage to the K3EXREF, do not exceed these levels.

From Bodnar’s website:

Both output signals are at 3.3V CMOS levels with 50 Ohms characteristic 
impedance. Their output drive levels can be adjusted.
Output power level (measured at 10MHz, fundamental power channel):

+13.3dBm, drive setting 32mA
+12.7dBm, drive setting 24mA
+11.4dBm, drive setting 16mA
+7.7dBm, drive setting 8mA


Joe, KO8V


> On Feb 14, 2019, at 2:36 PM, Dave Van Wallaghen  wrote:
> 
> Grant,
> 
> I just bought one of those a few months ago. I don't have it in front of me, 
> but as I remember, the default output from the Bodnar unit was exactly in 
> range of what is required by the K3. I didn't have to change anything in the 
> setup to get it working correctly with my K3.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 73,
> Dave W8FGU
> 
> On 2/14/2019 1:35:59 PM, "Grant Youngman"  wrote:
> 
>> To reduce the overall footprint of “stuff” around here, I’ve purchased a 
>> Bodnar GPS to replace a Trimble Thunderbolt, open frame power supply, and 
>> status display for use with my K3.
>> 
>> Is there a recommended output level from the Bodnar for the K3?  it seems 
>> the lowest level should work ok, but just checking in case I don’t 
>> understand something .. which is probably more likely than not.
>> 
>> 
>> Grant NQ5T
>> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Bodnar GPS Question

[Dave Van Wallaghen]

Grant,

I just bought one of those a few months ago. I don't have it in front of 
me, but as I remember, the default output from the Bodnar unit was 
exactly in range of what is required by the K3. I didn't have to change 
anything in the setup to get it working correctly with my K3.


HTH

73,
Dave W8FGU

On 2/14/2019 1:35:59 PM, "Grant Youngman"  wrote:


To reduce the overall footprint of “stuff” around here, I’ve purchased a Bodnar 
GPS to replace a Trimble Thunderbolt, open frame power supply, and status 
display for use with my K3.

Is there a recommended output level from the Bodnar for the K3?  it seems the 
lowest level should work ok, but just checking in case I don’t understand 
something .. which is probably more likely than not.


Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 lost comm with PC

[Don Wilhelm]

Paul,

Download the one on the first page that opens.  I can't recall, but I 
think it is VCP.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/14/2019 12:24 PM, Paul Ecker wrote:
Don - so at the FTDI Chip site they list  VCP, D2XX,D3XX drivers for 
download. What type works with the Elecraft KXUSB ??


Tnx & 73
Paul

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:25 AM Don Wilhelm > wrote:


Paul,

I would suggest downloading the FTDI drivers and after installing,
restart the computer.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/14/2019 9:33 AM, Paul Ecker wrote:
> My KAT500 has stopped communicating with my Win 10 PC. I have
tried two
> different KXUSB cables. When connected, neither show up in the
Windows 10
> Device Mgr Ports list. This problem has only occurred in the
last week.
> Prior to that had been working fine. Otherwise KAT is working
fine.Any
> ideas on a remedy?



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft business practices - more info

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

... and being in the service provider business, I can tell you that way 
too many shopping carts are set up on the assumption that the product 
will ship within 24 hours.


The typical developer has never read a merchant credit card agreement, 
and doesn't know that many of them state that you do not charge the card 
until the merchandise is actually shipped.


The developer doesn't seen a need for split transactions, since no one 
ever mentioned that they'd be taking orders for a very expensive product 
with an order backlog.


I'm ashamed of what my industry has become.

-- Lynn

On 2/13/2019 8:52 PM, Cliff Frescura wrote:

Being in the payments industry, I can tell you that most of these policies
are driven by the card brands (Visa, MasterCard, etc.), certifying bodies
(PCI, EMVCo) as well as the payment gateways.  It is a very complicated
chain with many rules.

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[Elecraft] Bodnar GPS Question

[Grant Youngman]

To reduce the overall footprint of “stuff” around here, I’ve purchased a Bodnar 
GPS to replace a Trimble Thunderbolt, open frame power supply, and status 
display for use with my K3.

Is there a recommended output level from the Bodnar for the K3?  it seems the 
lowest level should work ok, but just checking in case I don’t understand 
something .. which is probably more likely than not.


Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 refuses to turn on

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I called Elecraft and ask if they would send the schematics for my 
KAT500 and my KPA500.   In about 30 minutes they were in my e-mail in 
box.  Very high quality printouts now reside in my manuals.


73

Bob, K4TAX



On 2/14/2019 11:03 AM, Tony Brock-Fisher via Elecraft wrote:


On 2/14/2019 9:38 AM, Ken Winterling wrote:

If you don't have a schematic you should download one.



I own a KAT500 but can't find the schematics on the Elecraft web site. 
Where can I download them?


-Tony, K1KP

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[Elecraft] KX3 Utility & PX3 Utility - Future on OSX?

[Jeff Hughes]

The present KX3 Utility and PX3 Utility are 32-bit apps on Apple’s OSX 
platform.  Does anyone know if Elecraft plans to update these to 64-bit anytime 
soon?  With the release of the next version of OSX later this year, those 
applications will no longer work in their current guise.

Thanks for any insight…

73, Jeff K4EI

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Re: [Elecraft] 2-10-2019 SSB Net correction

[Jim KO5V]

Eric,

Just to be correct, my K2's S/N is listed incorrectly. 
It appears the K2 was MUCH more popular than I ever thought it was:

"K05V   Jim  NM  K282255"

It should be 7225. Sorry if I mumbled!

73, Jim K05V

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft business practices - more info

[John Simmons]

Cliff,

Thanks for your insightful post. I was in the mail-order biz in the 80s, 
and we had to rely on weekly mailings of flagged credit card numbers. It 
was a PITA to look up every number taken over the phone and most of us 
at this place relied on 'gut' instincts based upon the behavior of the 
caller. Much safer now!


73,
John NI0K


Cliff Frescura 
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:52 PM
Being in the payments industry, I can tell you that most of these policies
are driven by the card brands (Visa, MasterCard, etc.), certifying bodies
(PCI, EMVCo) as well as the payment gateways. It is a very complicated
chain with many rules.

The shopping cart either does an immediate charge or what is called a
"pre-auth" where it holds the funds but does not transfer them yet. If and
when they decide to actually charge the card, then a complete/post-auth is
issued. The catch is that if a pre-auth is issued it will reverse
automatically if no complete/post-auth is issued, usually within 24 hours.
So the only practical choice is to charge the card.

The alternative is for the shopping cart to get a card token from the
gateway that it can store and retrieve for later payment. It is 
verboten to

store clear text card numbers, in any media: computer, post it note, etc.
When the order is shipped, operations tells the shopping cart software 
to go

ahead and charge against the card token. In this scenario it would be best
practice to the shopping cart software to also delete the token and
associated card data from the payment gateway, unless the cardholder
explicitly opted in to save card info.

This is not an Elecraft only issue. Payments are very complicated and
challenging for many merchants. Fundamental reasons are for risk reduction
(for all stakeholders) and security.

73,

Cliff K3LL

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lou Voerman W2ROW
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:27 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft business practices - more info

I heard from Elecraft Sales and will attempt to communicate what I was 
told.


Sales is using a new shopping cart platform which allows them limited time
to capture payment information. As a result, it seems that they are unable
to defer payment in the case of a backorder, so orders are charged
immediately (as was the case for the two orders I placed recently).

They said that they are testing a new application which will allow 
deferring

payment until actual ship time. The target for this application to be
implemented is next month. In the mean time they said they will add a 
refund

offer to the notifications they send to customers when a backorder occurs.

I am generally satisfied with this explanation but would have liked to 
have

told in advance.

Again, I have been a loyal and satisfied Elecraft customer for many years
and am not attempting to in any way talk anyone out of doing business with
them. I was surprised when my credit card was charged twice before 
shipment

was projected to occur and now I have more knowledge.

Thanks,
Lou





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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 lost comm with PC

[Paul Ecker]

Don - so at the FTDI Chip site they list  VCP, D2XX,D3XX drivers for
download. What type works with the Elecraft KXUSB ??

Tnx & 73
Paul

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:25 AM Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Paul,
>
> I would suggest downloading the FTDI drivers and after installing,
> restart the computer.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 2/14/2019 9:33 AM, Paul Ecker wrote:
> > My KAT500 has stopped communicating with my Win 10 PC. I have tried two
> > different KXUSB cables. When connected, neither show up in the Windows 10
> > Device Mgr Ports list. This problem has only occurred in the last week.
> > Prior to that had been working fine. Otherwise KAT is working fine.Any
> > ideas on a remedy?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 refuses to turn on

[Tony Brock-Fisher via Elecraft]

On 2/14/2019 9:38 AM, Ken Winterling wrote:

If you don't have a schematic you should download one.



I own a KAT500 but can't find the schematics on the Elecraft web site. 
Where can I download them?


-Tony, K1KP

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Re: [Elecraft] 2-10-2019 SSB Net correction

[Bill Johnson]

Eric, it is K9YEQ.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 6:53:16 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] 2-10-2019 SSB Net correction

Here is a corrected call from last Sunday's net.

KE9YEQ  Bill   WIK3S 11140
Eric WB9JNZ
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 lost comm with PC

[Don Wilhelm]

Paul,

I would suggest downloading the FTDI drivers and after installing, 
restart the computer.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/14/2019 9:33 AM, Paul Ecker wrote:

My KAT500 has stopped communicating with my Win 10 PC. I have tried two
different KXUSB cables. When connected, neither show up in the Windows 10
Device Mgr Ports list. This problem has only occurred in the last week.
Prior to that had been working fine. Otherwise KAT is working fine.Any
ideas on a remedy?

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 refuses to turn on

[Ken Winterling]

Jim,

If you don't have a schematic you should download one.  According to the
schematic there isn't any internal fuse.
The 12VDC is passed from the rear panel jack through a polarity protection
diode to a choke then to a voltage regulator, a LM7805.

To start, you need to open the case and check that there is 12V on the jack
*inside* the case.  Then check if there is 5V at the regulator output.

If there isn't 5V at the outout check the regulator input side for
approximately 12VDC and work back through the choke and diode until you
find the defective component.

If the LM7805 has 5V on the output then it is likely there is a logic
failure and you should contact Elecraft.

Gl!

Ken
WA2LBI


On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 09:01 Jim Douglas via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote:

> Hi All,I have the K line here. I was listening to a QSO and out of the
> blue my KAT500 lost power.I disconnected everything from the KAT500 and
> then reconnected. The power plug has 12 volts so that is not the
> problem.The KAT500 was set up to turn on automatically when I turned on the
> power supply and now that does not work anymore.When I press the mode
> button to turn on the tuner that does not work now either. Where do I start
> looking?


Thanks, Jim Douglas  K2ZF
> 
>
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[Elecraft] KAT500 lost comm with PC

[Paul Ecker]

My KAT500 has stopped communicating with my Win 10 PC. I have tried two
different KXUSB cables. When connected, neither show up in the Windows 10
Device Mgr Ports list. This problem has only occurred in the last week.
Prior to that had been working fine. Otherwise KAT is working fine.Any
ideas on a remedy?

73
Paul
w2eck
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 refuses to turn on

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I'd start by opening the box and check the input and output of the 
regulator, U4, being a LM7805.   Should have ~12V on the input and 5V on 
the output.  If there is not 12V on the input then check both sides of 
the diode, D8, which is in series with the 12V input.  Also there is an 
inductor/choke L9 in series with the 12 volt line to the LM7805.


If the LM7805 does not have 5V on the output, either it has failed or 
there is a short which is pulling the 5V line to zero. Schematics are 
available and the rest depends on your trouble shooting skills.


Otherwise, obtain an RA from Elecraft Tech Support.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 2/14/2019 8:00 AM, Jim Douglas via Elecraft wrote:

Hi All,I have the K line here. I was listening to a QSO and out of the blue my 
KAT500 lost power.I disconnected everything from the KAT500 and then 
reconnected. The power plug has 12 volts so that is not the problem.The KAT500 
was set up to turn on automatically when I turned on the power supply and now 
that does not work anymore.When I press the mode button to turn on the tuner 
that does not work now either. Where do I start looking?Thanks, Jim Douglas  
K2ZF
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[Elecraft] KAT500 refuses to turn on

[Jim Douglas via Elecraft]

Hi All,I have the K line here. I was listening to a QSO and out of the blue my 
KAT500 lost power.I disconnected everything from the KAT500 and then 
reconnected. The power plug has 12 volts so that is not the problem.The KAT500 
was set up to turn on automatically when I turned on the power supply and now 
that does not work anymore.When I press the mode button to turn on the tuner 
that does not work now either. Where do I start looking?Thanks, Jim Douglas  
K2ZF
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