Re: [Elecraft] Digital modes on 144MHz only

[Jim Brown]

In today's world, a mast-mounted preamp is a waste of effort for the 
vast majority of hams because circuit noise in the receiver is rarely 
the limitation on what we hear. Rather it's all the trash from the 
electronics in our homes and homes of our neighbors, in addition to 
power line noise. I've recently been working 6M grid expeditions to VERY 
quiet places, and the ops say that they have to run high power to get 
over the local noise of the stations who want to work them.  That's why 
I bought the KPA1500 that will show up next week. :)


Most of the time, my QTH is pretty quiet, and although I'm running 500W 
to 4-el at 120 ft fed with 7/8 hard line, I nearly always give a signal 
report that's 10-15dB better than I receive. Today I worked a station 
double-hop E-skip who I gave +1 and he gave me -24.


When it's quiet, it's because I worked to make it that way. When it's 
not, it's when some new source fires up.  One of the things I'd be 
concerned about with the internally mounted transverter is frequency 
stability due to the additional internally generated heat.


I don't know how they're building them now, but the XV144 and XV220 I 
bought used about 15 years ago have serious bonding issues, and they can 
be a bit unstable. One of the most serious design faults is the that BNC 
I/O connectors are insulated from the shielding enclosure!  Hello!  
Clearly the designer did the wrong thing to fix whatever instability was 
caused by other errors.


73, Jim K9YC



73, Jim K9YC

On 7/4/2019 3:11 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
Make sure you balance the station receive performance with that of the 
1 KW amp.   Power is easy to generate.   Low noise receive performance 
is a challenge.   Start with a mast mounted low noise preamp, then low 
loss feedline such as 7/8" hard-line, and such. Remember, loss in the 
feedline adds to receiver noise.


I encounter many stations that have great signals but seemingly can't 
hear other stations calling them.  I call them alligators...all 
mouth, no ears. 



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Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood / KPA500 cable

[Jim Brown]

On 7/4/2019 4:48 PM, Andy Durbin wrote:

I know you, and probably many others, are content to use RF frequency detection 
but it did not appeal to me.


I'm a huge fan of KISS when it's just as good as complicated. :) And 
Elecraft's implementation is VERY good.


73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] CW problem

[John and Rita Freitag via Elecraft]

I am trying to run down a CW transmit problem on my K3s. Anytime I change the 
mode from LSB or USB on any band to CW it starts to send a “dit” without 
stopping and I have to halt it by restoring the configuration. This does fix it 
until I try to switch to CW again; and then, the same story. 

I recently removed a Kent (straight key plug) and the problem showed up. Any 
ideas?

(+) John Freitag, WW4JF

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[Elecraft] Legacy K2 Tuneup, Rescue, Build Services

[Alan D. Wilcox]

Hello,

Does your K2 need repair? Tuneup?
Want to sell it, but it needs some attention before offering it for sale? 

In addition to tuning your rig, I can also rescue a building project you might 
have started some time ago.

See what my clients have said about my construction and service work at 
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768 

Photos of the popular "Twins" -- the KPA100 and KAT100 in EC2 enclosure --  are 
at
https://wilcoxengineering.com/kpa100-in-ec2/ 

Cheers,
Alan

Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40)
570-916-9590 (cell, text)
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Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood / KPA500 cable

[Andy Durbin]

"but all you need is coax for RF and a cable to connect the rig's Amp Key out 
to an RCA on the KPA500"

Hi Jim,

I know you, and probably many others, are content to use RF frequency detection 
but it did not appeal to me.  In fact I disliked it so much that I have 
invested a lot of effort in creating a controller that configures my KAT500 and 
KPA500 before any RF is emitted. (It does a lot of other things too)

I don't have a TS-890S, just the much more humble cousin the TS-590S.  My only 
interest in the cable was to help a TS-890S owner.  The configuration of the 
keying cable is independent of whether RF detection is used or not.   A proper 
cable for the TS-590SG and TS-890S would use the active low solid state output 
of the rig, not the relay output (Especially true since Elecraft take great 
pride in silent keying).

73,
Andy, k3wyc

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Re: [Elecraft] Digital modes on 144MHz only

[hbjr]

I was not happy with the 9700 - it had calibration issues.  I returned it.

I have the internal K144XV with the reflock board and 1PPM TXCO installed in
the K3S - the external reference clock for the K3S would be better.  So far
it has worked on the few digital modes I have tried.  I use an external
soundcard (PK-232sc+) because I like its specs and it also is a real TNC for
packet and pactor.  So far so good.  I'm only running a 200 watt amplifier.

Hank
K4HYJ

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Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 2:31 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] Digital modes on 144MHz only

Digital modes on 144MHz only

I plan for a second station to use for digital modes on 144MHz only. If you
look at performance only (no price, no ergonomics, no use outside digital
modes on 144MHz) what would you prefer

1)   K3/K3S with internal transverter
2)   IC-9700

In both cases I plan to use a 1kW amplifier. 

Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld
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Re: [Elecraft] Digital modes on 144MHz only

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Make sure you balance the station receive performance with that of the 1 
KW amp.   Power is easy to generate.   Low noise receive performance is 
a challenge.   Start with a mast mounted low noise preamp, then low loss 
feedline such as 7/8" hard-line, and such. Remember, loss in the 
feedline adds to receiver noise.


I encounter many stations that have great signals but seemingly can't 
hear other stations calling them.  I call them alligators...all 
mouth, no ears.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 7/4/2019 4:14 PM, Wes wrote:
I don't know the '9700, but if you already have a K3(S), I would say 
an external transverter like an XV144.


Wes  N7WS

On 7/4/2019 11:31 AM, Kjeld Holm wrote:

Digital modes on 144MHz only

I plan for a second station to use for digital modes on 144MHz only. 
If you look at performance only (no price, no ergonomics, no use 
outside digital modes on 144MHz) what would you prefer


1)   K3/K3S with internal transverter
2)   IC-9700

In both cases I plan to use a 1kW amplifier.

Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld
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Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood / KPA500 cable

[Jim Brown]

Hi Andy,

I have no idea what they're selling, but all you need is coax for RF and 
a cable to connect the rig's Amp Key out to an RCA on the KPA500.  
That's all I've ever used. Elecraft amps and tuners all detect RF 
frequency near instantaneously, and switch to the right band.


73, Jim K9YC

On 7/4/2019 12:01 PM, Andy Durbin wrote:

What cable is Elecraft selling for interfacing the Kenwood TS-890S or TS-590SG 
with the KPA500.



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Re: [Elecraft] Digital modes on 144MHz only

[Wes]

I don't know the '9700, but if you already have a K3(S), I would say an external 
transverter like an XV144.


Wes  N7WS

On 7/4/2019 11:31 AM, Kjeld Holm wrote:

Digital modes on 144MHz only

I plan for a second station to use for digital modes on 144MHz only. If you 
look at performance only (no price, no ergonomics, no use outside digital modes 
on 144MHz) what would you prefer

1)   K3/K3S with internal transverter
2)   IC-9700

In both cases I plan to use a 1kW amplifier.

Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld
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[Elecraft] Kenwood / KPA500 cable

[Andy Durbin]

What cable is Elecraft selling for interfacing the Kenwood TS-890S or TS-590SG 
with the KPA500.  Can someone point me to a cable drawing?   A post to TS-890S 
group seems to suggest that Elecraft is selling a cable that does not support 
active low solid state keying for these rigs.

Thanks and 73,
Andy, k3wyc
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[Elecraft] Digital modes on 144MHz only

[Kjeld Holm]

Digital modes on 144MHz only

I plan for a second station to use for digital modes on 144MHz only. If you 
look at performance only (no price, no ergonomics, no use outside digital modes 
on 144MHz) what would you prefer

1)   K3/K3S with internal transverter
2)   IC-9700

In both cases I plan to use a 1kW amplifier. 

Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld
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Re: [Elecraft] K4

[Wayne Burdick]

Sorry about that. The K3/K3S is strictly superhet. 

Wayne 


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> On Jul 4, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> He meant K4. I spent a while thinking about that myself. Has to be K4 as he 
> later mentioned turning Superhet front-end OFF in order to get to Direct 
> Sampling mode. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Jul 4, 2019, at 11:18 AM,   
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wayne,
>> 
>> May I ask how would I use  direct sampling mode in the K3?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
>> Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 17:34 PM
>> To: RALPH TURK 
>> Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:46 AM, RALPH TURK  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will the k4 with Mars software transmit from 1.8 through 30 Mhz with 
>>> no band stop like the K3 has at the IF freq?
>> 
>> The K3 will transmit and receive in the 8 MHz range as long as you're using
>> direct sampling mode. The HDR module (in the K4HD model) has an 8 MHz I.F.,
>> like a K3, so it would have to be turned off in this case.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4

[Nr4c]

He meant K4. I spent a while thinking about that myself. Has to be K4 as he 
later mentioned turning Superhet front-end OFF in order to get to Direct 
Sampling mode. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jul 4, 2019, at 11:18 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Wayne,
> 
> May I ask how would I use  direct sampling mode in the K3?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
> Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 17:34 PM
> To: RALPH TURK 
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4
> 
> 
>> On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:46 AM, RALPH TURK  wrote:
>> 
>> Will the k4 with Mars software transmit from 1.8 through 30 Mhz with 
>> no band stop like the K3 has at the IF freq?
> 
> The K3 will transmit and receive in the 8 MHz range as long as you're using
> direct sampling mode. The HDR module (in the K4HD model) has an 8 MHz I.F.,
> like a K3, so it would have to be turned off in this case.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4

[Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP]

He meant K4, of course. Good thing he didn't accidentally type "K5" or 
it would have given rise to another 48,674 queries.



73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
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On 04/07/2019 18:18, w...@jetbroadband.com wrote:

Wayne,

May I ask how would I use  direct sampling mode in the K3?

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Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 17:34 PM
To: RALPH TURK 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4



On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:46 AM, RALPH TURK  wrote:

Will the k4 with Mars software transmit from 1.8 through 30 Mhz with
no band stop like the K3 has at the IF freq?


The K3 will transmit and receive in the 8 MHz range as long as you're using
direct sampling mode. The HDR module (in the K4HD model) has an 8 MHz I.F.,
like a K3, so it would have to be turned off in this case.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K4

[Grant Youngman]

The operative word is “typo :-)

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

> On Jul 4, 2019, at 11:18 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Wayne,
> 
> May I ask how would I use  direct sampling mode in the K3?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
> Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 17:34 PM
> To: RALPH TURK 
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4
> 
> 
>> On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:46 AM, RALPH TURK  wrote:
>> 
>> Will the k4 with Mars software transmit from 1.8 through 30 Mhz with 
>> no band stop like the K3 has at the IF freq?
> 
> The K3 will transmit and receive in the 8 MHz range as long as you're using
> direct sampling mode. The HDR module (in the K4HD model) has an 8 MHz I.F.,
> like a K3, so it would have to be turned off in this case.
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] K4

[w1ie]

Wayne,

May I ask how would I use  direct sampling mode in the K3?

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 17:34 PM
To: RALPH TURK 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4


> On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:46 AM, RALPH TURK  wrote:
> 
> Will the k4 with Mars software transmit from 1.8 through 30 Mhz with 
> no band stop like the K3 has at the IF freq?

The K3 will transmit and receive in the 8 MHz range as long as you're using
direct sampling mode. The HDR module (in the K4HD model) has an 8 MHz I.F.,
like a K3, so it would have to be turned off in this case.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] FOR SALE K2 SER#7750

[David Wilcox via Elecraft]

Guys,

This is a great opportunity.  I have two of RC’s earlier builds (K2 and I think 
KX1) and he is obsessive with his records and detail.  He sent my K2 out for 
professional tune up before sending it to me.  It is pristine and still sits in 
a place of honor on my desk.

You are getting a gem of a radio no matter what he sells.

Dave K8WPE since 1960

David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad

> On Jul 3, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Robert 'RC' Conley  wrote:
> 
> LET'S TRY AGAIN:
> I am relocating to a senior’s apartment complex and will not be allowed my 
> ham station. As a result, my Elecraft K2 #7750 has to go.
> When I built K2 #7750 it was intended to be a CW only station with computer 
> control so only the KIO2 option was included.
> 
> I document all my builds. You can see the complete documented build on my web 
> site at .
> 
> I had some issues, so I sent it to Alan Wilcox who fixed the issue, aligned 
> it, and also built and installed the KIO2 option for me.
> Then FT8 came along, so W5LA (Jim Ragsdale) built and installed the KSB2 
> option for me as I no longer felt qualified to do the work.
> Since Jan 24th until June 12th I have made over 2,500 FT8 QSO's, including 
> over 500 QSO's as a W5L special event station with K2 #7750
> and various wire antennas: an 80/40 trap inverted Vee and a 40/20 trap 
> inverted Vee @ 75'. All with this K2 #7750. Sideband operation
> is also available , however you supply the microphone.
> 
> I will greatly miss this radio. No need to clutter the reflector, so  PLEASE 
> reply off the list.
> I am offering my Elecraft K2 #7750 for sale for $850.00 firm. I'll ship it 
> USPS PRIORITY MAIL. I'll pay the shipping and the PayPal fees.
> 
> 73, RC WW5RC ex KC5WA
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