Re: [Elecraft] K4 observation
No difference with or without the microphone: of course, I never had an issue on CW in the first place! Tom W4KX From: Ray Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 2:50 PM To: Wayne Burdick; Tom Doligalski Cc: Elecraft Reflector; John Harper Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K4 observation Did You Trying Transmitting in CW mode with the Mic disconnected ? WA6VAB ray From: Wayne Burdick Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 11:41 AM To: Tom Doligalski Cc: Elecraft Reflector; John Harper Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 observation > On Jun 19, 2021, at 3:17 AM, Tom Doligalski wrote: > > Actually, it could be a radio station. I haven’t listened long enough to > ascertain… > > Frankly, I don’t care! The bigger problem is the rfi when I transmit. Which *will* be fixed. Wayne > > Tom W4KX > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 18, 2021, at 11:10 PM, w2xj wrote: >> >> >> Wayne >> >> I seriously doubt this is an RF issue. TV is all digital and has no discrete >> audio carrier. TV RF interference would sound like white noise. This sounds >> more like an audio ground loop of some sort. >> >> >> >> >>> On June 18, 2021 10:33 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: >>> >>> >>> John, >>> >>> If the K4 is *off*, then there's no active circuitry involved. However, the >>> headphone plug-insertion detect circuit may involve an IC downstream that >>> could include a schottky diode junction -- a potential way a very strong >>> signal could be rectified right at the radio end of the cable. We're >>> looking at that. >>> >>> If the cable is not very well shielded, and the TV station is *very >>> strong*, I can imagine modern physics just barely covering this situation. >>> It would help if the headphone cable was about the length of an end-fed >>> dipole at the station's frequency. >>> >>> As for the K4 chassis itself: It's very well sealed (far better than the >>> K3/K3S). >>> >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> >>> >>> > On Jun 18, 2021, at 3:36 PM, John Harper wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1XRaNpgQDI John AE5X https://ae5x.blogspot.com > Noticed that when the antenna are disconnected, and the K4 turned off, I > hear a local TV station in the headphones… Never happened on the K3. __ >>> >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to w...@w2xj.net >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to w...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wa6...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 no RF on FT8
My K3S occasionally does not put out any power when transmitting FT8. The problem was usually resolved by turning the rig off then back on. Now it doesn't want to put out RF when in that mode. It does transmit just fine on CW. The normal level of mic (Level) setting is 11-12 but now I have to crank it way up to 58 to get any power out. Any thoughts on what's wrong and how to fix? Pete Chamalian, W1RM w...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 no RF on FT8
Just spitballing what I'd check: Have you checked all the computer-side settings? There's output attenuation in the app, per-app output volume (on some operating systems), and master output volume. If it can be toggled or there are separate jacks, are you using headphones or line-out? Have you tried the other? If you've got an audio interface with a hardware output gain knob, have you checked the settings on that? Have you checked the cables and connections, and perhaps tried another cable? If you're using SSB instead of DATA mode, have you checked the COMP and TX EQ settings? (DATA mode avoids this problem.) Have you tried transmitting some other computer audio, like a plain sine wave of good volume? This would isolate the app, output attentuation, or per-app volume. Have you tried transmitting some plain mic audio in the same mode? This would isolate the app, computer, or interface. 73, Julie On Sun, Jun 20, 2021, 13:10 wrote: > > > My K3S occasionally does not put out any power when transmitting FT8. The > problem was usually resolved by turning the rig off then back on. Now it > doesn't want to put out RF when in that mode. It does transmit just fine > on > CW. > > > > The normal level of mic (Level) setting is 11-12 but now I have to crank it > way up to 58 to get any power out. > > > > Any thoughts on what's wrong and how to fix? > > > > > > > > Pete Chamalian, W1RM > > w...@comcast.net > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 no RF on FT8
That was it, Mike. Dang windows messed with the settings. I've been restoring this computer for 3 days now and I'm punchy with it. Pete Chamalian, W1RM w...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Mike Flowers Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 1:15 PM To: w...@comcast.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 no RF on FT8 Hi Pete, I would first look at how you are generating your FT8 audio tones. The symptoms you describe seem to me to be a case of your input audio tones being attenuated somehow. Sometimes Windows updates mess with the sound levels of various audio devices, so whatever sound device you're using is worth checking the levels. - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Vice-President 2021-2022 > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net boun...@mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of w...@comcast.net > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 10:10 > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 no RF on FT8 > > > > My K3S occasionally does not put out any power when transmitting FT8. > The problem was usually resolved by turning the rig off then back on. > Now it doesn't want to put out RF when in that mode. It does transmit > just fine on > CW. > > > > The normal level of mic (Level) setting is 11-12 but now I have to > crank it way > up to 58 to get any power out. > > > > Any thoughts on what's wrong and how to fix? > > > > > > > > Pete Chamalian, W1RM > > w...@comcast.net > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to mike.flow...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] New K3 user... Can't figure out how to set up and use sub receiver
Before using Elecraft, I used a Yaesu Ft 1000MP Mark-V Field and it was a mere touch of a button to use the sub receiver. I have scoured Pages 37/38 and still have not come up with a way to individually use the 2 receivers. Perhaps it is in the setting, although I did adhere to the directions for separate frequencies on each receiver. I am using a Butternut HF-9V antenna for both. What I need is to switch back and forth between the two receivers and be able to hear a speak on both. I hope someone will help me as I feel I am losing half the receiver, and I am sure it is much simpler than I imagine. Thanks in advance, Rick/W3RKI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 user... Can't figure out how to set up and use sub receiver
How this got to you I don’t know. I tried sending it to the reflector and it came back as well. We’ll try again. > On Jun 20, 2021, at 2:31 PM, Richard Isaacs wrote: > > Before using Elecraft, I used a Yaesu Ft 1000MP Mark-V Field and it was a > mere touch of a button to use the sub receiver. I have scoured Pages 37/38 > and still have not come up with a way to individually use the 2 receivers. > Perhaps it is in the setting, although I did adhere to the directions for > separate frequencies on each receiver. I am using a Butternut HF-9V antenna > for both. What I need is to switch back and forth between the two receivers > and be able to hear a speak on both. > > I hope someone will help me as I feel I am losing half the receiver, and I > am sure it is much simpler than I imagine. > > Thanks in advance, > > Rick/W3RKI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 user... Can't figure out how to set up and use sub receiver
On 6/20/2021 11:31 AM, Richard Isaacs via Elecraft wrote: Before using Elecraft, I used a Yaesu Ft 1000MP Mark-V Field and it was a mere touch of a button to use the sub receiver. I have scoured Pages 37/38 and still have not come up with a way to individually use the 2 receivers. Gee, it's trivially easy. Push the SUB button to turn it on. With headphones set for stereo, you'll hear it in your right ear, with the main RX in your left ear. Once it's on, a long push on the SUB button puts you in Diversity mode, for which you need a second antenna and an input for it. Perhaps study of the rest of manual might be a good thing. Over the years, I've owned ICOM, Yaesu, an Ten Tec rigs, and their user interfaces have all differed radically from each other. The Elecraft UI is, by far, the best of them all, but you have to RTFM to understand it. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 user... Can't figure out how to set up and use sub receiver
One possible gotcha is that the sub receiver is an option on the K3, and you need to set a configuration menu item to say that it is installed. The process is mentioned in the KRX3 manual and at the end of the K3 manual where the various menu items are described. Hold the CONFIG button (the button is labeled "Menu") located near the top left of the front panel. Rotate VFO B until you see "KRX3" in the bottom line of the LCD screen. Rotate VFO A to Ant = ATU or Ant = bnc depending on your use of a 2nd antenna (mine says ANT = ATU). Leave the menu (by tapping the MENU button again), then turn on the SUB by tapping the SUB button on the bottom right of VFO A. the "SUB" icon (surrounded by a box) should appear beneath the two VFO frequencies on the LCD screen. Adjust the main and sub receiver volumes with the concentric RF and AF gain knobs. You can decide whether to hear the sub and main mixed into both headphones by the L - MIX - R menu item, mine is set to A b so that I hear the main and sub receivers simultaneously, one in each ear. Other possible problems are that the sub receiver may be switched to a different antenna, to check this, HOLD BSET (to the top right of the LCD screen), then set the ANT to the appropriate antenna for VFO B and make sure that the RX ANT is as you expect it to be. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 12:06 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New K3 user... Can't figure out how to set up and use sub receiver On 6/20/2021 11:31 AM, Richard Isaacs via Elecraft wrote: > Before using Elecraft, I used a Yaesu Ft 1000MP Mark-V Field and it > was a mere touch of a button to use the sub receiver. I have scoured > Pages 37/38 and still have not come up with a way to individually use the 2 receivers. Gee, it's trivially easy. Push the SUB button to turn it on. With headphones set for stereo, you'll hear it in your right ear, with the main RX in your left ear. Once it's on, a long push on the SUB button puts you in Diversity mode, for which you need a second antenna and an input for it. Perhaps study of the rest of manual might be a good thing. Over the years, I've owned ICOM, Yaesu, an Ten Tec rigs, and their user interfaces have all differed radically from each other. The Elecraft UI is, by far, the best of them all, but you have to RTFM to understand it. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Strange behavior of K3 on FT8
You need to Hold down DATA MD and select the right data sub-mode. It is set per-band. DATA A is usually the correct sub-mode for FT8. This uses the USB mode. On 30m, you were likely using the AFSK A mode, which is similar, but uses LSB mode. AFSK A is used for RTTY, generally. > On Jun 19, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Carl-N8VZ wrote: > > Dear OM or YL: Today I did a successful POTA activation using my K3. I > usually use a smaller, lower wattage rig, but decided recently to use the K3 > portable. I've used the K3 for POTA activation three times before this week > -- but all on SSB. Today, I used FT8. I first was on 20M and everything > was quite normal. Then I switched to 30M, and I was hearing nothing and > friend who I was texting who lives fairly close to the park wasn't seeing my > CQs. I had the MODE set to DATA. The friend suggested I switch to USB > mode, and lo and below I started seeing signals on my screen and completed > several QSOs. I had used DATA mode on 20M and it worked FB. I also later > used DATA mode on 40M. Why didn't DATA mode work on 30M? Is there some > setting where I have to declare USB or LSB for each band separately for DATA > mode? All of this seems very strange to me. I used my K3 before for data > modes in the shack, and I don't recall this issue. Any suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. -- 73 de Carl N8VZ > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to aa...@arrl.net Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: aa...@arrl.net Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Gift Items
- This mail is in HTML. Some elements may be ommited in plain text. - Hi, How are you doing? Do you have an account with Amazon ? Please let me know. Dave __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Firmware Update Failure ?
Happy Father's day all ! I was updating the firmware today on a good working K3. I have done this many times without any issues. This time,while it was updating to 5.67,it failed about 90% through. A box came on saying to close the window on the k3 Utility program. I did this,and was going to start over and try again. The radio was frozen,and on the screen it said MCU LD The screen turned pretty dark,and I was not able to turn the radio off. I had to unplug it to turn it off. I plugged it back in,and turned it on again,and now the Transmit LED was blinking on and off. The power switch still will not turn off the radio. Only unplugging it turned it off. I tried it about 5 times,and same thing. I hope this is simple ? Thanks in advance for any help, Larry k6ro Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to aa...@arrl.net Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: aa...@arrl.net Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to las...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Update Failure ?
Look in the utility "help" tab. it tells you how to recover from this. Carl AB1DD On 6/20/2021 9:11 PM, Larry Shapiro wrote: Happy Father's day all ! I was updating the firmware today on a good working K3. I have done this many times without any issues. This time,while it was updating to 5.67,it failed about 90% through. A box came on saying to close the window on the k3 Utility program. I did this,and was going to start over and try again. The radio was frozen,and on the screen it said MCU LD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Update Failure ?
Thank you all.. We are fixed again :) Larry k6ro -Original Message- From: Carl Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 7:06 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Update Failure ? Look in the utility "help" tab. it tells you how to recover from this. Carl AB1DD On 6/20/2021 9:11 PM, Larry Shapiro wrote: Happy Father's day all ! I was updating the firmware today on a good working K3. I have done this many times without any issues. This time,while it was updating to 5.67,it failed about 90% through. A box came on saying to close the window on the k3 Utility program. I did this,and was going to start over and try again. The radio was frozen,and on the screen it said MCU LD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to las...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 user... Can't figure out how to set up, and use sub receiver
When I first set up for digital modes on my K3 (probably in 2010) when I long-pressed DATA MD and rotated VFO-B to select DATA-A it came up in LSB instead of USB. I was on 28-MHz so SSB ran USB, but not DATA. I do not recall exactly, but I forced it to USB (I think using the MODE button). Never had it change sidebands in DATA-A after that. Of course several updates of firmware since then so maybe it was a bug that got fixed?? I'm still using firmware rev 5.67 (should probably update it). --- Note: New in my shack is an IC9700 (talk about complicated and then there is the whole touch screen nonsense). Spectrum display will be nice, though. I already get that with my SDR-IQ running in parallel with the K3. I might be on 6m FT8 during FD from home. My HF triband appears shot (atu will not tune it-guessing problem with the traps) so no luck for running 20-10m. I have a potential replacement from an estate sale. 73, Ed -KL7UW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Report
Good Evening, Conditions were not so good. Some QSB with a side order of QRN. I received a number of emails though. Fathers were being feted. Twenty meters was good to the east and south. Forty meters was good to the west. Temperatures are creeping up with some wind. I was awakened by fog rain falling from the trees. Large drops made it sound like a storm was starting; but they lasted for less than a minute. I looked out the window to see dense fog with a tree showing here and there. By 7 AM it was clear. I hope it returns before the dry season begins. On 14050 kHz at 2200z: K0DTJ - Brian - CA K4JPN - Steve - GA K4WJ - John - FL On 7047.5 kHz at z: WM5F - Dwight - ID K0DTJ - Brian - CA Until next week 73, Kevin. KD5ONS - Mr. Spock, remind me to tell you that I'm sick and tired of your logic. That is a most illogical attitude. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com