[Elecraft] SSB Net 3-2022

2022-03-21 Thread Eric Lanzl
Here is the list of stations checking in to the Sunday March 20, 2022 SSB Net
Here are the SSB nets which all take place on Sundays:
20m net 1800Z  14.303.5 alternate 14.31040m net 1900Z    7280Zoom meeting 
contact Carl K8NU for the link80m net  0100Z   3775
A big thank you to the relay stations who always help out every week.    Eric 
WB9JNZ Net Control operator



Call   Name    State  Radio    
Serial#  QRP    Notes

WB9JNZ   Eric    IL   K3  
4017    Net Control 

N6JW    John  CA K3  
936   
RelayStation 

NS7P Phil    OR K3  
1826    Relay 
Station 

K8NU    Carl   OH K3S    
10996   

AE6JV   Bill NH K3  
6299     

K1NW   Brian RI   K3  
4974    
RelayStation 

NC0JW Jim CO KX3   1356 
    

W3SA    John  NC K4     616 
   

K5PD Pete   TX  K3  
545    

N8SBE  Dave MI  K3S    
11361   

N0MPM    Mike  C0  KX3   8820   
      

WB3EGD Rich   PA  Kenwood  TS480
   

KO4VHZ  Chris    VA Kenwood  TS590G 
   

K6FW    Frank    CA K3S    
11672   

W1NGA    Al   CO KX2   2002 
    

KT7P John  AZ  K4  
329    

WM6P   Steve GA K3S    
11453  RelayStation 

KO5V    Jim NM    K2/100  7225  
   

WB8HRO Tim    MI  Yaesu    FT450
     

N6PGQ  Bob   CA K3  
5891     

KR4QT Mark GA Yaesu    891  
      

AB7CE Roy   MT K3S/KX2  10823/ 153  
   

W4DML   Doug TN  K3  6433   
      

W0NTA    Dick   CO K2/100  7235 
    

K6WDE    David    CA KX3   4599 
    

w0rch    Rich   CO Icom  
7300     

N7YW   Ken    AZ  K3  
8183     

KE4WY    Jim KY K3S    7000 
    

W9EJB  Ed  IN   K4D   
498    

NY9H    Bill PA  K4D   
142    

K3GO   

Re: [Elecraft] Knowles HC-3 Mic Element Replacement For Heil HC-5

2022-03-21 Thread Jim Brown

On 3/21/2022 3:30 PM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote:

Expensive:


Blame that on Bob Heil.


20 years ago when I started working with Knowles mic elements for Mil headsets they cost 
the firm GBP15 each in lots of 20k.  One of the main criteria was reliability. I recall 
the output was 100mV with a standard close-coupled tone on the face of the capsule. The 
instruction to the squaddie was "kiss the mic" to get the right output.  The 
noise environment was inside an APC etc and it was common for them to shout.

David G3UNA


On 21 March 2022 at 20:42 Tony <73gu...@gmail.com> wrote:


Jim:


Close-talking" microphones are designed for use in very noisy
environments, like military aircraft.They are not directional, rather
they cancel all sounds more than an inch or two from their element.
73, Jim K9YC


That seems to be the case with the Knowles HC-3. It would be great if
these elements could be modified to perform better. I've been searching
for a drop-in headset element that has the same sensitivity and response
curve as the original Heil HC-4 / HC-5 (see below). They have great
articulation and work well with rigs that don't have TX-EQ. Used HC-4/5
elements are pricey!

Tony

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Re: [Elecraft] Knowles HC-3 Mic Element Replacement For Heil HC-5

2022-03-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
I agree with Fred (Skip)- electret mic elements are hard to beat, 
especially with Elecraft rigs or others which have frequency 
compensation.  The electret elements are small and inexpensive.  With 
their flat responses, they will need some equalization for use as ham 
mics - reduced low frequency response mainly.  If you want a boost in 
the 3000 to 3500 Hz, equalization Will do it.  They do need bias to 
function, but that is no problem with Elecraft gear, just turn bias on 
in the menu.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/21/2022 6:15 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

"It would be great if these elements could be modified to perform better"

Au contraire, Tony.  They were designed for a particular purpose and 
they perform very well for that purpose.  Unfortunately, that purpose 
is just not normally found in ham radio.


It is very hard to beat electret mics.  They're cheap, tiny, have flat 
responses, and tend to be immune to breath-blasts if you talk across 
them rather than into them. Some mics [dynamic and especially ribbon 
velocity mics] will emphasize the lows as you move close to them.  The 
classic RCA 44-BX series [fairly large, prismatic-shaped one, Johnny 
Carson used to have one on his desk] was particularly afflicted ... 
when I was 17 and on AM, I sounded like I was 17.  Crawl up very close 
to the -BX and I sounded like Morgan Freeman playing God in "Bruce 
Almighty."  There is little speech information in the low frequencies 
but a lot of power. Electrets are generally less prone to this.  Most 
of today's rigs provide the DC bias electrets require right on the mic 
connector.




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Re: [Elecraft] Knowles HC-3 Mic Element Replacement For Heil HC-5

2022-03-21 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft
Expensive:
20 years ago when I started working with Knowles mic elements for Mil headsets 
they cost the firm GBP15 each in lots of 20k.  One of the main criteria was 
reliability. I recall the output was 100mV with a standard close-coupled tone 
on the face of the capsule. The instruction to the squaddie was "kiss the mic" 
to get the right output.  The noise environment was inside an APC etc and it 
was common for them to shout. 

David G3UNA

> On 21 March 2022 at 20:42 Tony <73gu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Jim:
> 
> > Close-talking" microphones are designed for use in very noisy 
> > environments, like military aircraft.They are not directional, rather 
> > they cancel all sounds more than an inch or two from their element.  
> > 73, Jim K9YC 
> 
> That seems to be the case with the Knowles HC-3. It would be great if 
> these elements could be modified to perform better. I've been searching 
> for a drop-in headset element that has the same sensitivity and response 
> curve as the original Heil HC-4 / HC-5 (see below). They have great 
> articulation and work well with rigs that don't have TX-EQ. Used HC-4/5 
> elements are pricey!
> 
> Tony
> 
> .
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Re: [Elecraft] Knowles HC-3 Mic Element Replacement For Heil HC-5

2022-03-21 Thread Fred Jensen

"It would be great if these elements could be modified to perform better"

Au contraire, Tony.  They were designed for a particular purpose and 
they perform very well for that purpose.  Unfortunately, that purpose is 
just not normally found in ham radio.


It is very hard to beat electret mics.  They're cheap, tiny, have flat 
responses, and tend to be immune to breath-blasts if you talk across 
them rather than into them. Some mics [dynamic and especially ribbon 
velocity mics] will emphasize the lows as you move close to them.  The 
classic RCA 44-BX series [fairly large, prismatic-shaped one, Johnny 
Carson used to have one on his desk] was particularly afflicted ... when 
I was 17 and on AM, I sounded like I was 17.  Crawl up very close to the 
-BX and I sounded like Morgan Freeman playing God in "Bruce Almighty."  
There is little speech information in the low frequencies but a lot of 
power.  Electrets are generally less prone to this.  Most of today's 
rigs provide the DC bias electrets require right on the mic connector.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

Tony wrote on 3/21/2022 1:42 PM:

Jim:

Close-talking" microphones are designed for use in very noisy 
environments, like military aircraft.They are not directional, rather 
they cancel all sounds more than an inch or two from their element. 
73, Jim K9YC 


That seems to be the case with the Knowles HC-3. It would be great if 
these elements could be modified to perform better. I've been 
searching for a drop-in headset element that has the same sensitivity 
and response curve as the original Heil HC-4 / HC-5 (see below). They 
have great articulation and work well with rigs that don't have TX-EQ. 
Used HC-4/5 elements are pricey!


Tony




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Re: [Elecraft] Knowles HC-3 Mic Element Replacement For Heil HC-5

2022-03-21 Thread Tony

Jim:

Close-talking" microphones are designed for use in very noisy 
environments, like military aircraft.They are not directional, rather 
they cancel all sounds more than an inch or two from their element.  
73, Jim K9YC 


That seems to be the case with the Knowles HC-3. It would be great if 
these elements could be modified to perform better. I've been searching 
for a drop-in headset element that has the same sensitivity and response 
curve as the original Heil HC-4 / HC-5 (see below). They have great 
articulation and work well with rigs that don't have TX-EQ. Used HC-4/5 
elements are pricey!


Tony

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Re: [Elecraft] De-soldering Tool Recommendations?

2022-03-21 Thread SteveL
As a valuable side note, the Hakko 808 makes an excellent enameled wire 
stripping/tinning tool for toroids and similar.  I prop my up vertically, melt 
a blob of solder in the tip, plunge the enameled wire into the tip through the 
solder blob, wait a second or two and activate the vacuum.  The excess solder 
is whisked away along with the enamel insulation leaving a brightly tinned and 
stripped wire.

I believe I’ve actually used my 808 more for this than desoldering!  It 
actually made building the toroids for a K2, T1, and other projects fun.  

Consider this valuable additional function as you justify the cost of a similar 
tool.

Steve
AA8AF


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[Elecraft] Wanted: Elecraft XG-3 Signal Source

2022-03-21 Thread Randy via Elecraft
I am looking for a XG-3 signal source
 Please reply directly to w...@aol.com 73 Randy
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