[Elecraft] P3 for Sale

2023-04-20 Thread Dave Agsten
I have a very nice, basic P3 for sale. Includes cables, copy of namual and a 
wool/felt cover. $499, shipped and insured. Pleas respond off list to 
n...@comcast.net mailto:n...@comcast.net . Tnx es 73, Dave N8AG
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Re: [Elecraft] Where to put the wattmeter

2023-04-20 Thread Jim Brown

On 4/20/2023 11:05 AM, Fred Jensen wrote:
I've just never found that the time-domain waveform was a very good 
indicator of signal quality.


RIGHT!

By far, the most sensitive (and the most meaningful) measure of transmit 
distortion is occupied bandwidth, as measured on a spectrum display with 
narrow resolution bandwidth and narrow display bandwidth, and that can 
display and hold signal peaks. The P3 is quite good for this, and even 
better with the SVGA module. For voice modes, the waterfall can be 
adjusted to display splatter as horizontal expansion of the signal on 
voice peaks.


Elecraft rigs look great on such a display, straight vertical bars; 
overdriven power amps and many recent model Yaesu rigs produce splatter 
about 2.5 kHz both sides of their signal (those vertical bars), only 20 
dB down from PEP. That is, 2.5 kHz on both the suppressed carrier side, 
and 5.5 kHz on the other side of the suppressed carrier.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Where to put the wattmeter

2023-04-20 Thread Fred Jensen
The classic way [I believe used by the now-ancient Heath monitor scope 
although I could be mixing up archaeologic relics] was to feed the RF 
sensor output to the vertical deflection and the audio [from the speech 
amp ... remember those?] to the horizontal deflection.  I've just never 
found that the time-domain waveform was a very good indicator of signal 
quality.  I can vaguely see a system where the P3 in TX monitor mode 
would accept a hypothetical "TX audio monitor output" from the K3 to 
provide the H-deflection ...that might do it ... I think.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

Alan Bloom wrote on 4/19/2023 7:32 PM:
There's no reason the P3 can't display it if you have a way to 
generate the trapezoidal pattern from the transmitter.  I think 
feeding a triangle wave from a function generator into the mic input 
would do it.


Alan N1AL



On 4/19/23 16:38, Fred Jensen wrote:
and I'd buy one if it would do a trapezoidal pattern.  Judging TX 
signal quality looking at the time-domain envelope is pretty hard, 
but I can judge straight sides on the T-pattern


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County






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