Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Re: KXPA100 SN 707 Total Frustration with this Amp

2014-03-10 Thread rldillon

Thanks to all that replied either directly or via the reflector.

Today I removed the back plate and checked the coax connectors. They were 
installed on the proper place on the board and were fully seated. 

I decided to start over from scratch and took everything apart. I tightened 
every screw on the back plate and reinstalled the hex nut on the rs232 jack and 
checked everything with my fluke.  I reseated the coax connectors on the board 
and reinstalled the case then the back and front plates per the assembly manual.

I configured the kx3 per the Amp Manual and tested into an IFR 1600 on all HF 
Bands with no faults. I then added the Palstar and AL80B back in line. I keyed 
up the KX3 with al80b in standby and tuner bypassed. All was ok no faults on 10 
- 20 Hexxbeam. I tried another antenna that required the tuner and got an 
error. I reduced power and fine tuned the Palstar. The SWR to fault must be 
sensitive in the amp since swr was under 4 before I retuned. 

Everything appears to be working correctly. Again thanks to all who replied.






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Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 SN 707 Total Frustration with this Amp

2014-03-09 Thread rldillon

The high SWR happens even when the AL80b or Palstar tuner is not connected. In 
other words when coax from the kpxa100 goes direct to the K4KIO Hexx beam with 
nothing in between to confuse the amp except a barrel connector.

Yes you can drive a larger amp with the kx3 and KXPA100. It is covered on page 
19 of the manual in paragraph titled Keying an External Amplifier. 


-Original Message-
From: Dr. William J. Schmidt, II 
To: rldillon ; elecraft ; KX3 

Sent: Sun, Mar 9, 2014 8:49 pm
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KXPA100 SN 707 Total Frustration with this Amp


Am I reading this correctly?  You are driving an AL80B with the KXPA100
being driven by the KX3?  That's quite imaginative if that's correct.  The
SWR fault is coming from the AL80B input circuit not your antenna (the KXPA
can't see the SWR on the other side of the AL80B).  probably something bad
in the input circuit of the AL80B causing the high SWR...


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ
 
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch
Staunton, Illinois
 
email:  b...@wjschmidt.com


 
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[Elecraft] KXPA100 SN 707 Total Frustration with this Amp

2014-03-09 Thread rldillon

Upfront this email is long and outlines the frustrations with this amp that I 
have never encountered with another piece of new Ham Equipment in my 27 years 
of being licensed.

First indication of Problem:

I received this amp on 27 Feb at 10:55 when the situation started. I unpacked 
the items and laid them out on the table with an anti-static mat in place. As I 
inventoried the items, I discovered that I had two back plates and no face 
plate. I started assembly of the amp and noticed that the hex nut for the RS232 
(PC) connector was missing. I looked in the parts bag and it was not there 
either. I sent an email to parts at Elecraft and received a phone call asking 
to describe what was missing. I described in detail what was missing and 
received a promise that correct parts would be shipped.

Front Plate and hex nut were shipped via USPS on 3 March and received in WV on 
5 March. I installed the front plate and then opened the small envelope with 
the hex nut. It was the wrong one. I sent another email to Parts at Elecraft 
with an attached picture showing that the part sent was the wrong one.

The correct part was shipped 6 Mar and received 8 Mar. I installed and hooked 
up the amp today (see comments below for todays adventure).

What has really caused the frustrations with this amp.

After the weekend ARRL Contest, I hooked the amp to the KX3 per the manual by 
setting Tun Power to nor and PA MODE to on. The amp immediately came to life. I 
adjusted the power knob and noticed that the power was now showing what the amp 
would output versus the KX3 power. There was station on 20 RTTY that I wanted 
to work so I set the output power to 45 watts which would drive the AL80B to 
just between 400 to 500 watts. Tuner after the AL80B is a Palstar AT4K into a 
Hexx Beam with an swr of 1.2 on 20M with tuner bypassed. I started up kcomm and 
entered the stations call. I heard the AL80B amp keying each time I sent my 
call. I tried several times with no contact with the station calling CQ. I 
keyed again and noticed that the al80B was only showing about 30-40 watts 
instead of 4-500. I immediately stopped sending call and exited kcomm, started 
the KXPA utility program and found the fault table. It showed several faults 
for hi swr of 99.9:1. How do you get an swr this high into
  an antenna with an swr of 1.2? I went back into the kx3 menu and turned off 
PA mode. I then set kx3 power to 10 watts and keyed with amp turned off. SWR 
showing on KX3 was 1.3. I turned amp on and keyed up with another fault for Hi 
SWR. I did work the station with my TS590, AL80B, Palstar tuner and hex with NO 
SWR problems!!

I tried more bands with the same problems. I downloaded the Beta Firmware and 
new utility and updated the firmware. Same problems and results. I swapped out 
the coax between the KXPA100 and the AL80B. Same results. I swapped out the 
coax that came with the KXPA cable package with a known good jumper to the amp 
same results. I bypassed the AL80b and Palstar tuner direct to the hex. Hi SWR 
faults. I tried dipole with Palstar same results. I added an LDG Auto tuner 
after amp with same results.

I reloaded ver 1.04 of the firmware and tried again same results. I also 
reloaded the beta a second time.

Today I hooked the amp back up after installing the correct hex and decided to 
try some more trouble shooting. Today with the PA Mode on and running the 
utility software, If I uncheck PA Bypass, which comes on with equipment turn 
on,  the PA Bypass comes back on. I can hear the relays clicking each time. If 
I change PA Mode so I can manually turn the amp off and on the PA Bypass works 
correctly. I changed the short piece of CAT 5 with a piece of fully shielded 
CAT 6. Did not make a difference.

I saw on the reflector an individual having problems with tuner retuning during 
a qso due to sensitive SWR . This is not my situation as mine does not have a 
tuner and is a kit version. I also saw where an individual had a problem using 
an LDG auto tuner. That is also not a symptom I am having as LDG tuner tunes 
fine when you use at least 5 watts or so to tune.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. I have totally lost any faith or 
confidence in the amp. As one of my friends told me it is probably time for it 
go away.

Rich, K8VE



 
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