Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split RS232?

2009-05-26 Thread NZ0T

 Thanks Howard - seems to work fine as I have ACLog and K3_EZ running and
connected at the same time.  Now I need to figure out why K3_EZ keeps
messing the band map in the K3.


Let's say your K3 has one 9pin RS232C port, and you want to connect it to
your amplifier so the amplifier will always know the band/frequency the
radio is set to.
But wait - you also have the Palstar AT AUTO auto-tuner and you want to
connect its RS232 port to the K3 so that the tuner will always retune every
time you change the K3 frequency.  But, that's not enough.  You want to run
Ham Radio Deluxe on the computer - and it needs to access the K3's RS232
port.  What's a HAM to do?

This free VSPE software can solve it for you.

Let's say your computer has 3 COM ports:

COM1 - connected to the Radio.
COM2 - connected to the Apmplifier
COM3 - connected to the Antenna Tuner
Software 1: need to get access to COM1 (Radio) - Ham Radio Deluxe
Software 2: need to get access to COM1 (Radio) - perhaps some other
software.

Amplifier and Antenna tuner devices must also be connected to the
Radio.
---

Right?

1) Create VSPE Splitter (Source port=COM1, Virtual port = COM9)
2) Create VSPE Serial Redirector (COM9 = COM2) : (Radio = Amplifier)
3) Create VSPE Serial Redirector (COM9 = COM3) : (Radio = Antenna
Tuner)
4) Change Software 1 settings to use COM9 instead of COM1
5) Change Software 2 settings to use COM9 instead of COM1

Now the problem is solved - everything can share the COM1 going to the K3
radio.

The only problem that may exist is that if several programs try to send data
to the radio at the same moment, the bytes may get intermixed and if this
occurs it will be an unintelligible mess to the radio.  I have not tried
this, so I do not know if it will or will not occur.

Howard



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split RS232?

2009-05-25 Thread HowardZ



HowardZ wrote:
 
 This free software will solve your problem
 
 http://www.eterlogic.com/Products.VSPE.html
 

Let's say your K3 has one 9pin RS232C port, and you want to connect it to
your amplifier so the amplifier will always know the band/frequency the
radio is set to.
But wait - you also have the Palstar AT AUTO auto-tuner and you want to
connect its RS232 port to the K3 so that the tuner will always retune every
time you change the K3 frequency.  But, that's not enough.  You want to run
Ham Radio Deluxe on the computer - and it needs to access the K3's RS232
port.  What's a HAM to do?

This free VSPE software can solve it for you.

Let's say your computer has 3 COM ports:

COM1 - connected to the Radio.
COM2 - connected to the Apmplifier
COM3 - connected to the Antenna Tuner
Software 1: need to get access to COM1 (Radio) - Ham Radio Deluxe
Software 2: need to get access to COM1 (Radio) - perhaps some other
software.

Amplifier and Antenna tuner devices must also be connected to the
Radio.
---

Right?

1) Create VSPE Splitter (Source port=COM1, Virtual port = COM9)
2) Create VSPE Serial Redirector (COM9 = COM2) : (Radio = Amplifier)
3) Create VSPE Serial Redirector (COM9 = COM3) : (Radio = Antenna
Tuner)
4) Change Software 1 settings to use COM9 instead of COM1
5) Change Software 2 settings to use COM9 instead of COM1

Now the problem is solved - everything can share the COM1 going to the K3
radio.

The only problem that may exist is that if several programs try to send data
to the radio at the same moment, the bytes may get intermixed and if this
occurs it will be an unintelligible mess to the radio.  I have not tried
this, so I do not know if it will or will not occur.

Howard

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split RS232?

2009-05-24 Thread HowardZ

This free software will solve your problem

http://www.eterlogic.com/Products.VSPE.html
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[Elecraft] [K3] Split RS232?

2009-05-20 Thread NZ0T

I'm a computer idiot so I hope this is not too dumb of a question.  I
currently use N3FPR's ACLog using an RS232 cable to a USB adapter cable to
my laptop.  I recently started using K3_EZ and I would like to know if it's
possible to link both programs to the K3 at the same time using a split
cable or something like that.  It's a pain to exit the logging program when
I want to use K3_EZ. There is always the chance of acquiring a W2 which also
has RS232 capability and it would be nice to use it too.

TIA 73, Bill nz0t
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split RS232?

2009-05-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill,

Multiple applications using the same real serial port is one situation, 
but your additional comment about the W2 is (I believe) a different 
situation.  The W2 needs its own serial port and the K3 needs another.  
Perhaps something like the SteppIR controller with its Y cable may be 
possible with the W2, but I have my doubts, the SteppIR just listens for 
the band frequency information, but the W2 must send data to the computer.

There are software applications out there (like LP-Bridge) that make a 
single serial port into several virtual ports each with its own com address.

73,
Don W3FPR

NZ0T wrote:
 I'm a computer idiot so I hope this is not too dumb of a question.  I
 currently use N3FPR's ACLog using an RS232 cable to a USB adapter cable to
 my laptop.  I recently started using K3_EZ and I would like to know if it's
 possible to link both programs to the K3 at the same time using a split
 cable or something like that.  It's a pain to exit the logging program when
 I want to use K3_EZ. There is always the chance of acquiring a W2 which also
 has RS232 capability and it would be nice to use it too.

 TIA 73, Bill nz0t
   
   
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split RS232?

2009-05-20 Thread David Gilbert

According to the author on his web site, K3_EZ does not work with LP-Bridge.

73,
Dave   AB7E



Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Bill,

 Multiple applications using the same real serial port is one situation, 
 but your additional comment about the W2 is (I believe) a different 
 situation.  The W2 needs its own serial port and the K3 needs another.  
 Perhaps something like the SteppIR controller with its Y cable may be 
 possible with the W2, but I have my doubts, the SteppIR just listens for 
 the band frequency information, but the W2 must send data to the computer.

 There are software applications out there (like LP-Bridge) that make a 
 single serial port into several virtual ports each with its own com address.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 NZ0T wrote:
   
 I'm a computer idiot so I hope this is not too dumb of a question.  I
 currently use N3FPR's ACLog using an RS232 cable to a USB adapter cable to
 my laptop.  I recently started using K3_EZ and I would like to know if it's
 possible to link both programs to the K3 at the same time using a split
 cable or something like that.  It's a pain to exit the logging program when
 I want to use K3_EZ. There is always the chance of acquiring a W2 which also
 has RS232 capability and it would be nice to use it too.

 TIA 73, Bill nz0t
   
   
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split RS232?

2009-05-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave,

That is true, I pointed out that an application *like* LP-Bridge 
provides multiple virtual ports.
I did not intend to say that any particular application would work with 
LP-Bridge.  There are other similar applications, and some *may* work.  
Sorry, but I do not have the details about what works and what doesn't.  
The person with the question might want to do some research knowing that 
there is a possible solution out there - some experimentation may be 
required.

73,
Don W3FPR


David Gilbert wrote:
 According to the author on his web site, K3_EZ does not work with LP-Bridge.

 73,
 Dave   AB7E



 Don Wilhelm wrote:
   
 Bill,

 Multiple applications using the same real serial port is one situation, 
 but your additional comment about the W2 is (I believe) a different 
 situation.  The W2 needs its own serial port and the K3 needs another.  
 Perhaps something like the SteppIR controller with its Y cable may be 
 possible with the W2, but I have my doubts, the SteppIR just listens for 
 the band frequency information, but the W2 must send data to the computer.

 There are software applications out there (like LP-Bridge) that make a 
 single serial port into several virtual ports each with its own com address.

 73,
 Don W3FPR
 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split RS232?

2009-05-20 Thread NZ0T

I'll see what I can come up with as I really would like top be able to use
K3_EZ along with my logging program.  Thanks for the input.





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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split RS232?

2009-05-20 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed, 20 May 2009 19:08:07 -0700 (PDT), NZ0T wrote:

I really would like top be able to use K3_EZ along with my logging 
program.

Depending on what you want to accomplish, you might consider an 
alternate approach -- try to find a logging program that controls 
the K3 in the ways you need. Several do, with varying degrees of 
sophistication. The logger DXKeeper works with control software 
called Commander (same publisher, both are FREE). It's a very nice 
logger. DXKeeper also works with Ham Radio Deluxe, which is QUITE 
sophisticated control software, and it's FREE. Ham Radio Deluxe 
includes a logging program, and that logger is being significantly 
upgraded NOW. Also FREE.  These are all general purpose loggers 
and controllers, designed general QSOs and DXing. They do NOT do 
contesting.  

Almost any good contest logger supports the K3, including WinTest 
($75-$100), WriteLog (about $75) and N1MM (FREE), and allow quite 
sophisticated control and logging functions. 

I'm sure there are other loggers to consider -- these are the ones I 
know about. 

73,

Jim Brown K9YC


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