Re: [Elecraft] Looking ahead to Field Day - roofing filter question

2009-02-06 Thread Bill W4ZV



Julius Fazekas n2wn wrote:
 
 In my CW opinion, I would say you don't need a filter for FD use. While
 popular, it doesn't hold a candle to the harsh conditions during a 160M or
 major DX contest, such as CQ WW on 20M.
 

Unless your antennas or operating environment can present signals
approximately S9+30 to the K3's front end, there is NO need for ANY roofing
filters other than the stock 2.7k.  Also remember that 2.7k is already about
twice as narrow as the narrowest roofing filters in the FT-1000 family
*with* Inrad roofing filters, FT2000, FT9000, IC-7700, IC-7800, etc.  Yes
Icom and Yaesu claim to have 3k roofing filters but they have been
actually been measured at ~5k by Sherwood and others.  Advertising hype
rules at these companies (as usual).

73,  Bill

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Re: [Elecraft] Looking ahead to Field Day - roofing filter question

2009-02-06 Thread K4IA
I use the 500 hz roofer set to cut in when the  DSP gets around 750 hz.  That 
eliminates a lot of the crud that comes  through.  That crud is the 
growling noise you hear in background of the  other rigs when you tighten 
down their 
DSP.

Buck 
k4ia
k3  #101

In a message dated 2/6/2009 8:38:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
btipp...@alum.mit.edu writes:



Julius Fazekas n2wn wrote:
  
 In my CW opinion, I would say you don't need a filter for FD use.  While
 popular, it doesn't hold a candle to the harsh conditions during a  160M or
 major DX contest, such as CQ WW on 20M.
 

Unless  your antennas or operating environment can present signals
approximately  S9+30 to the K3's front end, there is NO need for ANY roofing
filters other  than the stock 2.7k.  Also remember that 2.7k is already about
twice as  narrow as the narrowest roofing filters in the FT-1000 family
*with* Inrad  roofing filters, FT2000, FT9000, IC-7700, IC-7800, etc.  Yes
Icom and  Yaesu claim to have 3k roofing filters but they have been
actually been  measured at ~5k by Sherwood and others.  Advertising hype
rules at these  companies (as usual).

73,  Bill

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[Elecraft] Looking ahead to Field Day - roofing filter question

2009-02-06 Thread Julius Fazekas
Bill,

In my CW opinion, I would say you don't need a filter for FD use. While 
popular, it doesn't hold a candle to the harsh conditions during a 160M or 
major DX contest, such as CQ WW on 20M.

The 500 Hz filter is a good choice for general contesting and semi-crowded 
conditions. For casual CW, you probably don't even need a special CW filter 
with the K3.

The beauty of the uber-narrow filters in excessively crowded bands is that you 
can really kill most of the garbage outside of your filter's pass band. 

I think it's been stated here before, unless you have serious needs, like 
contesting, the K3 does great bare bones and added roofing filters are not 
necessary.

I'll be hauling my K2 out for FD, love the all-in-one QRP package.

73,
Julius

Julius Fazekas
N2WN

Tennessee Contest Group
TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/

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[Elecraft] Looking ahead to Field Day - roofing filter question

2009-02-05 Thread NZ0T

I plan to take my K3 to Scorpion ranch for our annual WS4Y Field Day op.  I
have no roofing filters at present and frankly have been pretty well pleased
in the little time I have spent in contest conditions.  The DSP filters work
quite well.  Is it worth the money for a roofing filter and is the 500 Hz 5
pole filter adequate?  

Times are tough and money tight here so I want to make sure it's worth the
$100!  But I also would like to wow the other guys at FD =^D

73, Bill NZ0T
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