[Elecraft] AM RX bandwith

2009-04-08 Thread Jan Erik Holm
This might be a stupid question since I think this
has been on the list before.

Just upgraded from 2.76 to 3.06. I´m using 13 KHz
FM filter for AM RX´ing.
Before I could see 10 KHz DSP bandwith but now 5.00 KHz.
Something has changed. What bandwith do I get? Did
I get 10 KHz before and now it is changed to 5 KHz or
is it just one sideband I´m seeing? I´m just puzzled.

This is how I like to have it. Would like to be able to
widen the DSP all the way out to the filter (13 KHz)
but it seems to me it´s not possible, maybe it never
was.

Sorry if this has been on the agenda before.

73 Jim SM2EKM

PS: When I think about it maybe I saw 9 KHz before and
not 10, well one or the other.


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Re: [Elecraft] AM RX bandwith

2009-04-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim,

The change is only in the displayed width.  Before it was the IF 
bandwidth, and now it is the audio bandwidth - for AM, that will be 1/2 
of the IF bandwidth, so 10 kHz before equals 5 kHz displayed now.   It 
is consistent with the other bandwidth displays that indicate the audio 
channel width.

73,
Don W3FPR

Jan Erik Holm wrote:
 This might be a stupid question since I think this
 has been on the list before.

 Just upgraded from 2.76 to 3.06. I´m using 13 KHz
 FM filter for AM RX´ing.
 Before I could see 10 KHz DSP bandwith but now 5.00 KHz.
 Something has changed. What bandwith do I get? Did
 I get 10 KHz before and now it is changed to 5 KHz or
 is it just one sideband I´m seeing? I´m just puzzled.

 This is how I like to have it. Would like to be able to
 widen the DSP all the way out to the filter (13 KHz)
 but it seems to me it´s not possible, maybe it never
 was.

 Sorry if this has been on the agenda before.

 73 Jim SM2EKM

 PS: When I think about it maybe I saw 9 KHz before and
 not 10, well one or the other.
   

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Re: [Elecraft] AM RX bandwith

2009-04-08 Thread Wes Stewart

It is my understanding that the displayed BW is that of the audio. At least 
with my single 2.8KHz filter, there is a caveat: the operational bandwidth 
can't exceed the i-f filter bandwidth, even though the display will lull you 
into thinking so, if you're not careful.

With my radio if I normalize the BW, the Lo Cut defaults to 100 Hz and the Hi 
Cut to 2.9KHz.  If for some reason I adjust the Hi cut to a higher frequency, 
the display will still show the Lo Cut at 100 Hz.  If for example I decide to 
widen the BW to 3.5 KHz (Hi = 3.6) to improve fidelity the Lo Cut readout 
will still display 100 Hz, but the low frequency response isn't what it was 
before.

In doing this with my radio, a 300 Hz tone is down 12 dB.  This was because 
changing the DSP limit moved the i-f filter pass-band with respect to the 
signal.  In other words, the DSP BW is *not* independent of the i-f filter BW.

Of course it can be argued that the readouts are displaying the audio pass-band 
and this is to be expected.  But I think this is wrong.  Perhaps some of the 
reports of lousy audio result from this mistake.

Wes Stewart, N7WS


--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AM RX bandwith
 To: Jan Erik Holm sm2...@telia.com
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 8:37 AM
 Jim,
 
 The change is only in the displayed width.  Before it was
 the IF 
 bandwidth, and now it is the audio bandwidth - for AM, that
 will be 1/2 
 of the IF bandwidth, so 10 kHz before equals 5 kHz
 displayed now.   It 
 is consistent with the other bandwidth displays that
 indicate the audio 
 channel width.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 Jan Erik Holm wrote:
  This might be a stupid question since I think this
  has been on the list before.
 
  Just upgraded from 2.76 to 3.06. I´m using 13 KHz
  FM filter for AM RX´ing.
  Before I could see 10 KHz DSP bandwith but now 5.00
 KHz.
  Something has changed. What bandwith do I get? Did
  I get 10 KHz before and now it is changed to 5 KHz or
  is it just one sideband I´m seeing? I´m
 just puzzled.
 
  This is how I like to have it. Would like to be able
 to
  widen the DSP all the way out to the filter (13 KHz)
  but it seems to me it´s not possible, maybe it never
  was.
 
  Sorry if this has been on the agenda before.
 
  73 Jim SM2EKM
 
  PS: When I think about it maybe I saw 9 KHz before and
  not 10, well one or the other.

 
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Re: [Elecraft] AM RX bandwith

2009-04-08 Thread Jan Erik Holm
OK thanks info.

/ Jim SM2EKM
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Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Jim,
 
 The change is only in the displayed width.  Before it was the IF 


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