Re: [Elecraft] Antenna comparisons, WSPRnet and timed serial port macros

2013-08-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Put it into TX on a dummy load and run your batch file and find out!
73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)


On 7 Aug 2013, at 04:35, drewko wrote:

 Ray,
 
 Tks again for the idea. I now have the batch files set up to switch
 the K3's ANT every hour, half-hour or 15 mts while WSPR is running.;
 no other software needed.
 
 My only question is: what happens if the K3 receives a serial command
 to switch ANT while it is transmitting? I assume the command will just
 be ignored, but would like to know for sure...
 
 73,
 Drew
 AF2Z

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Re: [Elecraft] Antenna comparisons, WSPRnet and timed serial port macros

2013-08-07 Thread drewko
Even with dummy loads connected I'd hesitate to hot switch ANT. 

Perhaps could try it while transmitting at 0 watts?

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 09:25:24 +0100, you wrote:

Put it into TX on a dummy load and run your batch file and find out!
73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)


On 7 Aug 2013, at 04:35, drewko wrote:

 Ray,
 
 Tks again for the idea. I now have the batch files set up to switch
 the K3's ANT every hour, half-hour or 15 mts while WSPR is running.;
 no other software needed.
 
 My only question is: what happens if the K3 receives a serial command
 to switch ANT while it is transmitting? I assume the command will just
 be ignored, but would like to know for sure...
 
 73,
 Drew
 AF2Z

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[Elecraft] Antenna comparisons, WSPRnet and timed serial port macros

2013-08-06 Thread drewko
I've been doing some performance comparison between two antennas I am
using. I'm compiling data of my WSPR transmissions and spots over
periods of many hours. I got a little carried away and made up a
spreadsheet  to compare reciprocal signal reports as well as the
performance differences between my two antennas...

Basically, I am manually switching from one antenna to the other on a
reqular basis, keeping track of which time periods each is in use.
What I'd like to do is automate the antenna switching on my K3 at
periodic intervals. 

The question is, what is the simplest solution for achieving this?
Don't really want to install some full-blown logging-control software.
I am wondering if there is perhaps some little generic utility
available that will send user specified commands over the serial port
at specified intervals. Is there anything like that available? (Years
ago there was a great telecom program called COMMO that could do
this.)

73,
Drew
AF2Z

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Re: [Elecraft] Antenna comparisons, WSPRnet and timed serial port macros

2013-08-06 Thread Ray Cadmus

Here is a link that may answer part of the question:

http://batchloaf.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/simple-trick-for-sending-characters-to-a-serial-port-in-windows/

His simple method of doing echo hello or your command string to 
com1  would probably work.  You could then make that a batch file to be 
run periodically.  While I am not currently a Windows user I seem to 
recall an ON command that can schedule things.


Hope this helps.

Regards,

RayW0PFO

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On 08/06/2013 11:36 AM, drewko wrote:

The question is, what is the simplest solution for achieving this?
Don't really want to install some full-blown logging-control software.
I am wondering if there is perhaps some little generic utility
available that will send user specified commands over the serial port
at specified intervals. Is there anything like that available? (Years
ago there was a great telecom program called COMMO that could do
this.)

73,
Drew
AF2Z



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Re: [Elecraft] Antenna comparisons, WSPRnet and timed serial port macros

2013-08-06 Thread Mike WA8BXN
Get a mechanical timer, one that has the pegs in a wheel to set on and off
times to control a lamp etc. Set up an antenna relay that connects one
antenna when power is on, and the other when off. 

73 - Mike WA8BXN 

 

 

 

 

---Original Message--- 

 

From: drewko 

Date: 8/6/2013 12:36:39 PM 

To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 

Subject: [Elecraft] Antenna comparisons, WSPRnet and timed serial port
macros 

 

I've been doing some performance comparison between two antennas I am 

using. I'm compiling data of my WSPR transmissions and spots over 

periods of many hours. I got a little carried away and made up a 

spreadsheet to compare reciprocal signal reports as well as the 

performance differences between my two antennas... 

 

Basically, I am manually switching from one antenna to the other on a 

reqular basis, keeping track of which time periods each is in use. 

What I'd like to do is automate the antenna switching on my K3 at 

periodic intervals. 

 

The question is, what is the simplest solution for achieving this? 

Don't really want to install some full-blown logging-control software. 

I am wondering if there is perhaps some little generic utility 

available that will send user specified commands over the serial port 

at specified intervals. Is there anything like that available? (Years 

ago there was a great telecom program called COMMO that could do 

this.) 

 

73, 

Drew 

AF2Z 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Antenna comparisons, WSPRnet and timed serial port macros

2013-08-06 Thread drewko
Brian,

Yes, I want to send the ANT 1/2 switch command to the K3, say every
quarter hour. I believe there is no serial port rig control from the
WSPR software to contend with, just the tones from the soundcard that
key the rig periodically. 

So, I just need a utility to send the ant switch command over the
serial port to the K3 at fixed intervals.

Actually, I have found an old copy of COMMO that may run in a DOS
window. I'll try it later but if someone knows of a more recent
similar program pls let me know, thanks.

73,
Drew
AF2Z






On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:02:50 +, you wrote:

Drew,

Do you mean K3's internal antenna 1/2 or some external antenna switch?

If K3's internal:

Try the commands AN1; and AN2; in the firmware update program to see if 
it does what you want.  That command can easily be programed in a stand 
alone program.

If you are using rig control in WSPR, then you would need to share the 
COM port with a program like LPBRIDGE.

If external box, then you can kluge something mechanical/electrical up 
to do the switching at prescribed intervals.

73 de Brian/K3KO



On 8/6/2013 16:36, drewko wrote:
 I've been doing some performance comparison between two antennas I am
 using. I'm compiling data of my WSPR transmissions and spots over
 periods of many hours. I got a little carried away and made up a
 spreadsheet  to compare reciprocal signal reports as well as the
 performance differences between my two antennas...

 Basically, I am manually switching from one antenna to the other on a
 reqular basis, keeping track of which time periods each is in use.
 What I'd like to do is automate the antenna switching on my K3 at
 periodic intervals.

 The question is, what is the simplest solution for achieving this?
 Don't really want to install some full-blown logging-control software.
 I am wondering if there is perhaps some little generic utility
 available that will send user specified commands over the serial port
 at specified intervals. Is there anything like that available? (Years
 ago there was a great telecom program called COMMO that could do
 this.)

 73,
 Drew
 AF2Z

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Re: [Elecraft] Antenna comparisons, WSPRnet and timed serial port macros

2013-08-06 Thread drewko
Ray,

Thanks! That's what I had in mind... I believe it is the AT command
(not ON). Also, SCHTASKS perhaps...

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:52:57 -0500, you wrote:

Here is a link that may answer part of the question:

http://batchloaf.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/simple-trick-for-sending-characters-to-a-serial-port-in-windows/

His simple method of doing echo hello or your command string to 
com1  would probably work.  You could then make that a batch file to be 
run periodically.  While I am not currently a Windows user I seem to 
recall an ON command that can schedule things.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

RayW0PFO

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Re: [Elecraft] Antenna comparisons, WSPRnet and timed serial port macros

2013-08-06 Thread drewko
Ray,

Tks again for the idea. I now have the batch files set up to switch
the K3's ANT every hour, half-hour or 15 mts while WSPR is running.;
no other software needed.

My only question is: what happens if the K3 receives a serial command
to switch ANT while it is transmitting? I assume the command will just
be ignored, but would like to know for sure...

73,
Drew
AF2Z



On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:52:57 -0500, you wrote:

Here is a link that may answer part of the question:

http://batchloaf.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/simple-trick-for-sending-characters-to-a-serial-port-in-windows/

His simple method of doing echo hello or your command string to 
com1  would probably work.  You could then make that a batch file to be 
run periodically.  While I am not currently a Windows user I seem to 
recall an ON command that can schedule things.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

RayW0PFO

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