Re: [Elecraft] Apple MacBook Pro Audio for PSK-31 with K2?

2010-12-11 Thread James Sarte (K2QI)
Alan, what MBP do you own?

I have a 2010 15 MBP, and it has separate stereo input and output
jacks.  I am able to input anything the K3 spits out with nothing more
than a regular stereo cable.

73,
James K2QI

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Alan D. Wilcox
a...@wilcoxengineering.com wrote:
 Hello,

 The MacBook Pro has a single 1/8 audio connection for both mic in and
 external-speaker output. Unfortunately, that disables the internal speakers,
 preventing their use for monitoring. Also, the single special plug needs a
 homebrew Y-cable to get the input and output on separate connectors.

 Before I over-complicate what should be a simple interface to the K2, does
 anyone have a success story with the MacBook Pro?

 Cheers, Alan

 Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX
 570-321-1516
 http://WilcoxEngineering.com
 https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/28062
 Williamsport, PA 17701


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Re: [Elecraft] Apple MacBook Pro Audio for PSK-31 with K2?

2010-12-10 Thread Paul Wilton
Just about any old USB soundcard will work with a MacBook Pro - I use an old 
Creative USB Soundblaster that I picked up second hand.  Noting that you can 
plug in an iPhone headset, I did experiment using an iPod Classic 4 pin 3.5mm 
to 3 x phono connectors but decided it was too work to sort out since the 
input would be at microphone level and would need a capacitor to remove the 
microphone bias voltage.  Going with the USB soundcard was far easier.  You can 
pick up some no-brand dongle versions for less than $10 on ebay.

73
Paul
M1CNK



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Re: [Elecraft] Apple MacBook Pro Audio for PSK-31 with K2?

2010-12-10 Thread Kok Chen

On Dec 10, 2010, at 12/1011:32 AM, Paul Wilton wrote:

 Just about any old USB soundcard will work with a MacBook Pro - I  
 use an old Creative USB Soundblaster that I picked up second hand.   
 Noting that you can plug in an iPhone headset, I did experiment  
 using an iPod Classic 4 pin 3.5mm to 3 x phono connectors but  
 decided it was too work to sort out since the input would be at  
 microphone level and would need a capacitor to remove the microphone  
 bias voltage.  Going with the USB soundcard was far easier.  You can  
 pick up some no-brand dongle versions for less than $10 on ebay.

Many of the MacBook Pro models have an integrated analog audio and  
digital S/PDIF built into the common 1/8 phone jack.

Either a plain wired 1/8 plug or a S/PDIF 1/8 plug will plug into  
that jack.

For example, you can connect the fiber optical output from an Icom  
7800 directly to the MacBook Pro as long as whatever software that you  
use can accept that one fixed sampling rate from the Icom.  Perfect  
galvanic isolation.  No RFI, no ground loops, no drivers.

I had responded privately to the person who started this thread by  
recommending the cheap and simple Griffin Technology iMic (not the  
greatest noise floor, but probably sufficient for his intended  
purpose), and the SignaLink USB if he wants hard keyed PTT.

73
Chen, W7AY

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Re: [Elecraft] Apple MacBook Pro Audio for PSK-31 with K2?

2010-12-10 Thread Alan D. Wilcox

Thanks for all the replies!

To answer questions: The MacBook Pro is the 13 with the faster cpu and 
larger drive. New production, just got it several weeks ago. There is 
only ONE audio connection: the required 1/8 plug is same as regular 
stereo plug but has tip and TWO rings.


I cobbled up a Y-cable last evening, and I'm getting audio into the MBP. 
No way to hear the audio on the MBP tho; looks like I'll need to do a 
line-out jack on the K2 for constant volume to the MBP while I adjust 
the K2 volume to listening level for me.


The MBP--K2 mic direct connection seems to work with VOX and I can 
watch ALC when tx.


Doesn't look like I've got any ground loops, even with the MBP charger 
plugged in.


The Griffin iMic looks like a good way to get separate in and out. As I 
understand it, when it's active, the internal mic and speakers are 
disabled. Yes?
OTOH, the iMic would give me isolation. I'm somewhat concerned about my 
direct connections into the MBP. I don't know what circuit I'm working 
into. (Like a black box, but it's white with an apple on it.)


At this point, I'll put an extra line-out jack on the K2. Maybe get the 
iMic ...


Thanks again,
Alan

Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX
570-321-1516
http://WilcoxEngineering.com
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/28062
Williamsport, PA 17701


On 12/9/10 9:27 PM, Alan D. Wilcox wrote:

Hello,

The MacBook Pro has a single 1/8 audio connection for both mic in and 
external-speaker output. Unfortunately, that disables the internal 
speakers, preventing their use for monitoring. Also, the single 
special plug needs a homebrew Y-cable to get the input and output on 
separate connectors.


Before I over-complicate what should be a simple interface to the K2, 
does anyone have a success story with the MacBook Pro?


Cheers, Alan

Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX
570-321-1516
http://WilcoxEngineering.com
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/28062
Williamsport, PA 17701


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[Elecraft] Apple MacBook Pro Audio for PSK-31 with K2?

2010-12-09 Thread Alan D. Wilcox

Hello,

The MacBook Pro has a single 1/8 audio connection for both mic in and 
external-speaker output. Unfortunately, that disables the internal 
speakers, preventing their use for monitoring. Also, the single 
special plug needs a homebrew Y-cable to get the input and output on 
separate connectors.


Before I over-complicate what should be a simple interface to the K2, 
does anyone have a success story with the MacBook Pro?


Cheers, Alan

Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX
570-321-1516
http://WilcoxEngineering.com
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/28062
Williamsport, PA 17701

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Re: [Elecraft] Apple MacBook Pro Audio for PSK-31 with K2?

2010-12-09 Thread Rick Prather
Alan,

What flavor of MBP do you have that has only a single audio connection?

Rick
K6LE


On 12/9/2010, at 6:27 , Alan D. Wilcox wrote:

 Hello,
 
 The MacBook Pro has a single 1/8 audio connection for both mic in and 
 external-speaker output. Unfortunately, that disables the internal speakers, 
 preventing their use for monitoring. Also, the single special plug needs a 
 homebrew Y-cable to get the input and output on separate connectors.
 
 Before I over-complicate what should be a simple interface to the K2, does 
 anyone have a success story with the MacBook Pro?
 
 Cheers, Alan
 
 Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX
 570-321-1516
 http://WilcoxEngineering.com
 https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/28062
 Williamsport, PA 17701

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Re: [Elecraft] Apple MacBook Pro Audio for PSK-31 with K2?

2010-12-09 Thread Stephen Prior
Alan

I know it further complicates things, but what about a iMic USB outboard
soundcard?  

73 Stephen G4SJP


On 10/12/2010 02:27, Alan D. Wilcox a...@wilcoxengineering.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 The MacBook Pro has a single 1/8 audio connection for both mic in and
 external-speaker output. Unfortunately, that disables the internal
 speakers, preventing their use for monitoring. Also, the single
 special plug needs a homebrew Y-cable to get the input and output on
 separate connectors.
 
 Before I over-complicate what should be a simple interface to the K2,
 does anyone have a success story with the MacBook Pro?
 
 Cheers, Alan
 
 Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX
 570-321-1516
 http://WilcoxEngineering.com
 https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/28062
 Williamsport, PA 17701
 
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