[Elecraft] BCB sensitivity [K3]

2008-07-18 Thread Mike Scott
>Is sensitivity very low below about 1000khz in the BC band or is it just
me?


Something to keep in mind, there is gigantic difference in the BCB
performance on my K3 depending on what antenna I have it connected to and
the results are counterintuitive. On a BCB station I am listening to at 790
KHZ right now hooked up to a resonant 20M dipole the S reading is 10 over
S9. When I shift to a 40M inverted V the signal drops to S4 with ATU and S3
with ATU in bypass. The difference is gigantic. A resonant 40M antenna seems
to be a particularly bad BCB performer. The 20M dipole has a Balun, the 40M
inverted V does not.

Sometimes the ATU helps and sometimes the ATU hurts signals on the BCB.



Mike Scott
 
Tarzana, CA
 


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[Elecraft] BCB sensitivity [K3]

2008-07-18 Thread KM5Q

Mike,

How do you tune the ATU optimally for BCB, since you can't transmit?

Windy KM5Q

Sometimes the ATU helps and sometimes the ATU hurts signals on the  
BCB.

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Re: [Elecraft] BCB sensitivity [K3]

2008-07-19 Thread drewko1
You can set the KAT3 menu config entry to LCSet. Exit the menu then
tap ATU TUNE. You can set the L and C values individually with the A
and B VFO controls. But it doesn't seem to make any difference in the
AM received signal as far as I can tell. I'm using a 100' wire for an
antenna.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:53:52 -0600, KM5Q wrote:

>Mike,
>
>How do you tune the ATU optimally for BCB, since you can't transmit?
>
>Windy KM5Q
>
>> Sometimes the ATU helps and sometimes the ATU hurts signals on the  
>> BCB.

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Re: [Elecraft] BCB sensitivity [K3]

2008-07-19 Thread drewko1
Also, while dialing in the L and C values, tap ANT to switch between
CA and CT. However, it seems you can't adjust the two caps
independently; whatever value is dialed in for CA is duplicated for
CT, and vice versa. Is this a bug?

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:16:37 -0400, AF2Z wrote:

>You can set the KAT3 menu config entry to LCSet. Exit the menu then
>tap ATU TUNE. You can set the L and C values individually with the A
>and B VFO controls. But it doesn't seem to make any difference in the
>AM received signal as far as I can tell. I'm using a 100' wire for an
>antenna.
>
>73,
>Drew
>AF2Z
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] BCB sensitivity [K3]

2008-07-19 Thread drewko1
Ok..., it seems the ANT switch, which is supposed to be switching
between CA and CT while in the LCSet mode, is actually switching
antennas as it would do in normal operation. I guess this is a bug,
unless I'm doing something wrong here...

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:30:44 -0400, AF2Z wrote:

>Also, while dialing in the L and C values, tap ANT to switch between
>CA and CT. However, it seems you can't adjust the two caps
>independently; whatever value is dialed in for CA is duplicated for
>CT, and vice versa. Is this a bug?
>
>73,
>Drew
>AF2Z
>
>
>On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:16:37 -0400, AF2Z wrote:
>
>>You can set the KAT3 menu config entry to LCSet. Exit the menu then
>>tap ATU TUNE. You can set the L and C values individually with the A
>>and B VFO controls. But it doesn't seem to make any difference in the
>>AM received signal as far as I can tell. I'm using a 100' wire for an
>>antenna.
>>
>>73,
>>Drew
>>AF2Z
>>
>>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] BCB sensitivity [K3]

2008-07-19 Thread drewko1
Ok, my final conclusion (i promise) 

Manually adjusting the L and C values of the ATU DOES have an effect
on BCB reception (had my RF gain turned down before, so seemed like
there was no difference). Maximum L (17.35 pH) gives maximum received
signal strength on a short antenna, as expected. 

However, you can't adjust CA and CT independently. And checking all of
my pretuned bands the values for CA and CT on any given band are
equivalent (which seems odd). Furthermore, merely selecting between CA
and CT with the ANT button while in LCSet mode has an effect on the
received signal-- a couple of s-units difference between the two is
what I noticed. (But I don't think it is the antenna relay being
switched, as mentioned before.)

What I want to know is, are the displayed values for CA and CT
correct, and can they be adjusted independently of each other?

BTW, I am using F/W ver 2.13.

Thanks,

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:43:44 -0400, AF2Z wrote:

>Ok..., it seems the ANT switch, which is supposed to be switching
>between CA and CT while in the LCSet mode, is actually switching
>antennas as it would do in normal operation. I guess this is a bug,
>unless I'm doing something wrong here...
>
>73,
>Drew
>AF2Z
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] BCB sensitivity [K3]

2008-07-19 Thread Vic K2VCO

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Manually adjusting the L and C values of the ATU DOES have an effect
on BCB reception (had my RF gain turned down before, so seemed like
there was no difference). Maximum L (17.35 pH) gives maximum received
signal strength on a short antenna, as expected. 



However, you can't adjust CA and CT independently. And checking all of
my pretuned bands the values for CA and CT on any given band are
equivalent (which seems odd). Furthermore, merely selecting between CA
and CT with the ANT button while in LCSet mode has an effect on the
received signal-- a couple of s-units difference between the two is
what I noticed. (But I don't think it is the antenna relay being
switched, as mentioned before.)



What I want to know is, are the displayed values for CA and CT
correct, and can they be adjusted independently of each other?


I believe this is a bug which I reported. If I remember properly, the 
problem is that the values are not being displayed correctly.

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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