Re: [Elecraft] CORRECTION Re: SB-221 for K3 need some help.

2008-08-31 Thread Bill W5WVO
Oops, correction. Looks like the K3 will handle the SB-220's T-R
relay coil voltage after all. Sorry about that, my bad. You still
need to worry about the closure timing, though. I have my K3 set
to the max (20 ms) and there doesn't SEEM to be a probelm -- but
I've never actually measured how longs it takes the original Heath
frame relay to close. You really should do that.

Bill W5WVO


- Original Message - 
From: Bill W5WVO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED];
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: SB-221 for K3 need some help.


 As far as the bandswitch is concerned, a good source for them
are
 the guys who do the 6-meter conversions for SB-220s and SB221s,
 since they remove the whole bandswitch assembly. Check with Lou
at
 King Conversions ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). He may be able to help you
 out. Lou does a great job with his 6-meter conversions, BTW. I'm
 using one with my K3, but part of his conversion is installing a
 solid-state buffer for the T-R line, which in the unmodified
 SB-220 switches 120VDC. Do NOT connect an unmodified SB-220's
T-R
 switch line directly to the K3's T-R switch output jack. Your K3
 will NOT be happy.

 Bill W5WVO


 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:50 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Re: SB-221 for K3 need some help.


  Don, there isn't a diode across the relay coil in an SB220 -
so
 there
  may be a nasty back emf voltage on key release. Also, the K3
 maximum
  keying delay is 20 mS, will the relay in a SB220 switch in
that
 time?
 
  I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm, but old linears were
 designed
  for relay contact switching and generally were slow on change
 over...
  They can be modified, but in standard format may not work too
 well.
 
  73 Dave, G4AON
  K3/100 #80, Acom 1000
  
 
  I found out this week that K3 is good with Heathkit
  SB-220 amps, all you need to do is connect a shielded
  RCA cable between the units - how easy is that? !!!
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[Elecraft] CORRECTION Re: SB-221 for K3 need some help.

2008-08-31 Thread Don Rasmussen
Thanks Bill, 

I don't *think* I received any special treatment from
the factory, I just sent and email to the guy that
created the transceiver. Amazing. I got a response in
less than an hour, a quote from an actual user of my
configuration. To those reading this, Elecraft will
spoil you for life, never think about buying anything
other - hi. 

Yes, I turned off QSK and have a decent long delay in
semi-break in. I had a QSO with NH6SV tonight and he
reports a clean signal st 599. 

I thought I had Tom cornered on no reason to install
that soft key but I like his answer. In addition, I
had the amp apart several times today and it provided
me with a renewed respect for that little innocent
looking line. ;-) Beforte that comment he made, I
would not have bothered shutting off both units before
connecting / disconnecting. Until or unless I install
soft key, will maintain that procedure. 

..


[Elecraft] CORRECTION Re: SB-221 for K3 need some
help.
Bill W5WVO w5wvo at cybermesa.net 
Sun Aug 31 17:17:45 EDT 2008 

Oops, correction. Looks like the K3 will handle the
SB-220's T-R relay coil voltage after all. Sorry about
that, my bad. You still need to worry about the
closure timing, though. I have my K3 set to the max
(20 ms) and there doesn't SEEM to be a probelm -- but
I've never actually measured how longs it takes the
original Heath frame relay to close. You really should
do that.

Bill W5WVO


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Re: [Elecraft] CORRECTION Re: SB-221 for K3 need some help.

2008-08-31 Thread Don Rasmussen
Oh - by the way - my Sb-221 bandswitch is in a
shambles but I hard wired the amp for 20 meters until
a new switch arrives. I learned a valuable lesson,
bandswitches are delicate, close tolerance devices -
don't ever try to repair one that is cracked - hi -
but the contacts can be replaced if the wafer is good.

Time was, I would never consider working on an amp -
too intimidating. But after a couple K2's, soldering
up those big anough to fit in your hands parts seemed
to be a piece of cake!!!


--- Don Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Bill, 
 
 I don't *think* I received any special treatment
 from
 the factory, I just sent and email to the guy that
 created the transceiver. Amazing. I got a response
 in
 less than an hour, a quote from an actual user of my
 configuration. To those reading this, Elecraft will
 spoil you for life, never think about buying
 anything
 other - hi. 
 
 Yes, I turned off QSK and have a decent long delay
 in
 semi-break in. I had a QSO with NH6SV tonight and he
 reports a clean signal st 599. 
 
 I thought I had Tom cornered on no reason to install
 that soft key but I like his answer. In addition, I
 had the amp apart several times today and it
 provided
 me with a renewed respect for that little innocent
 looking line. ;-) Beforte that comment he made, I
 would not have bothered shutting off both units
 before
 connecting / disconnecting. Until or unless I
 install
 soft key, will maintain that procedure. 
 
 ..
 
 
 [Elecraft] CORRECTION Re: SB-221 for K3 need some
 help.
 Bill W5WVO w5wvo at cybermesa.net 
 Sun Aug 31 17:17:45 EDT 2008 
 
 Oops, correction. Looks like the K3 will handle the
 SB-220's T-R relay coil voltage after all. Sorry
 about
 that, my bad. You still need to worry about the
 closure timing, though. I have my K3 set to the max
 (20 ms) and there doesn't SEEM to be a probelm --
 but
 I've never actually measured how longs it takes the
 original Heath frame relay to close. You really
 should
 do that.
 
 Bill W5WVO
 
 
 

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