Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
One assumes you'll never buy a laptop. They've not had serial ports for several years and USB is usually the only expansion route. Phil Kane wrote: As aa long-time comm engineer I speak serial quite well, and would not buy a computer that did not have capability to add or enlarge same. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
At 04:30 AM 4/2/2006, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/KC8NHF wrote... One assumes you'll never buy a laptop. They've not had serial ports for several years and USB is usually the only expansion route. You just have to look before you buy, and not assume you can't get what you want. I'm typing this on a Dell D610 which is a current model and does indeed have a serial port, as do many other models. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
You CAN buy laptops/notebook with serial ports. I have bought at least 4 of them in the last year. I just tooked delivery on a HP NW8000 last week with one serial point. Dell also offers notebooks with serial. Besides, dont rule out a 4 port serial- pcmcia card. 73, Rich One assumes you'll never buy a laptop. They've not had serial ports for several years and USB is usually the only expansion route. Phil Kane wrote: As aa long-time comm engineer I speak serial quite well, and would not buy a computer that did not have capability to add or enlarge same. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
Thanks. I'd not considered that. I'm not familiar with PCMCIA cards. I assume they're relatively expensive. I'll check it out. Rich McCabe wrote: Besides, dont rule out a 4 port serial- pcmcia card. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:22:31 -0600, Rich Lentz wrote: We went through this a few years ago, but it sure would be nice for Elecraft to make a USB interface and scrap the serial adapter altogether. I think now is the time as the last two computers I bought have NO SERIAL PORT and no way of adding a card. I don't want to re-kick a dead horse, but you are making a bad assumption that everyone has or likes USB ports. I keep mine turned off because they interfere with other on-board adapters in my main machine which has 8 serial ports in use running IBM Warp OS/2, and I don;t have any external devices whoch run on USB. My newest computer (6 months old) running Win XP has 1 built-in serial port, and I have three multi-port cards and the slots available to use them. Right now I have three ports in use on that machine. As aa long-time comm engineer I speak serial quite well, and would not buy a computer that did not have capability to add or enlarge same. Pardon my rant - I'll shut up now. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane K2/100 5402 - coming to a HF band near you real soon ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:56:46 -0500, Ian Stirling wrote: Even better than a designed-in K2 USB port, how about a Bluetooth interface for wireless connecting to a computer? This assumes that everyone speaks Bluetooth. I don't. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane K2/100 5402 - coming to a ham band near you real soon ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
The K2 has a great built in serial bus called the AUX BUS. All communications between various modules take place over this bus except for the I/O. I believe elsewhere it would be called the 1-Wire or Single Wire Bus and the capabilities of the 1-Wire Bus are limitless. Someone that knows what is going on could probably interface directly to the aux bus and not even use the K2IO. The K2 serial I/O (pseudo RS-232) uses 2 of the MCU ports and the needed overhead of code, memory, parts, etc. to talk to the K2IO, which in turn talks to a USB/serial converter, which in-turn talks to the PC (And who knows what inside there). As a long time comm. engineer then you should know the virtues of getting rid of three (four) devices in series that do nothing more than convert a signal back and forth, up and down, so that two devices can talk to each other. Especially when they could talk to each other directly. My thought is get rid of the K2IO, the daisy chain of converters, free up the wasted memory, two MCU ports and do two things: 1) use a USB chip fed directly by the AUX Bus to provide USB interface. 2) take that freed up memory and add more useful features, e.g. switches that could be used to activate amps, or, monitoring of various aspects of the K2 (Temp, etc.) and maybe even free up memory for other features. This would be an Option, the K2IO would still be available (for those that don't want to change) BUT there would also be a K2USB (or whatever) for those of us that don’t like dongles plugged into dongles plugged into adapters to talk to the K2. As I said in the first, the newer lap tops have no serial port, and other than a dongle it is cost prohibitive to add one. The new PC I just bought ONLY has a PCI express slot open, there is no PCI slot and I have been unable to find a PCIexpress serial adapter. I guess a could take out the four port USB/3 port 1394 adapter and buy a new four port USB/3 port 1394/2 port serial adapter ($$$) but the cost is almost 1/4th the price of the PC - thus no way. In the future new PCs will be even harder to use serial other than the dongle - and I HATE dongles. Rich, KE0X -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Kane Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9:21 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware? On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:22:31 -0600, Rich Lentz wrote: We went through this a few years ago, but it sure would be nice for Elecraft to make a USB interface and scrap the serial adapter altogether. I think now is the time as the last two computers I bought have NO SERIAL PORT and no way of adding a card. I don't want to re-kick a dead horse, but you are making a bad assumption that everyone has or likes USB ports. I keep mine turned off because they interfere with other on-board adapters in my main machine which has 8 serial ports in use running IBM Warp OS/2, and I don;t have any external devices whoch run on USB. My newest computer (6 months old) running Win XP has 1 built-in serial port, and I have three multi-port cards and the slots available to use them. Right now I have three ports in use on that machine. As aa long-time comm engineer I speak serial quite well, and would not buy a computer that did not have capability to add or enlarge same. Pardon my rant - I'll shut up now. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane K2/100 5402 - coming to a HF band near you real soon ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Rich, HamStationExtreme just yesterday announced version 3.00.17. I downloaded it but have not yet had a chance to try it. Version 3.00.16 does not work for me either. Keep me informed as to your progress. 73, Bob VE3XM K2/100 S/N 4031 K2 S/N 4575 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
I recently completed my K2. I assume that it has the very latest firmware. Although it works fine with k2Remote, it doesn't work reliably with any third-party software that I've tried. I've tried the latest version of dxLab commander, HamRadioDelux, and even purchased HamStationExtreme. Comander won't even connect with the K2. HRD keeps stalling when updating the frequency display. The current release of HSE doesn't appear to work. I'm waiting for an update. As far as I can tell from research I've been able to do, there are firmware problems in the K2 that make the interface unreliable. Elecraft says they don't have any room in their program space to add any flow control. Does anyone have any information about this problem or comments about other control software? Regards Rich - KE1EV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
Rich, I am running my K2 with the latest firmware and Ham Radio Deluxe works fine here. If the K2 operates properly with any program (check with a simplistic one, like HyperTerm), then the K2 is responding properly and you can look for the solution in your computer - the answer will be found in how Windows is working with your application. Yes, there is no flow control (and that is not a problem), it is strictly a command/response protocol, but it has always been that way, and it has always worked for me as long as I set up the computer port properly. Try setting the baud rate and flow control for the computer serial port from the Windows Device Manager as well as from the application and see if your responses are any better. If you are using a USB to serial port adapter, be certain you have the proper drivers - depending on how your computer handles task switching for that adapter device, you may find the problem there. 73, Don W3FPR -Original Message- I recently completed my K2. I assume that it has the very latest firmware. Although it works fine with k2Remote, it doesn't work reliably with any third-party software that I've tried. I've tried the latest version of dxLab commander, HamRadioDelux, and even purchased HamStationExtreme. Comander won't even connect with the K2. HRD keeps stalling when updating the frequency display. The current release of HSE doesn't appear to work. I'm waiting for an update. As far as I can tell from research I've been able to do, there are firmware problems in the K2 that make the interface unreliable. Elecraft says they don't have any room in their program space to add any flow control. Does anyone have any information about this problem or comments about other control software? Regards Rich - KE1EV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
Rich, My K2 works without problem with MixW 2.16. MixW even controls the PTT through the TxD line rather than RTS. I don't even have the loopback RTS/CTS installed. 73 Bob 2M0KDZ #5339 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
Rich, I have my K2 (sn 4950) working just fine with DX Lab - commander, and with HRD; no stalls; I had to adjust the frequency of interrogation to get it reliable, but it seems to be quite happy in doing it. I also remember something about setting the com port in the com tab, and the radios tab in Commander to get it happy. (Sorry, its been a while)... 73 de Dave, W5SV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently completed my K2. I assume that it has the very latest firmware. Although it works fine with k2Remote, it doesn't work reliably with any third-party software that I've tried. I've tried the latest version of dxLab commander, HamRadioDelux, and even purchased HamStationExtreme. Comander won't even connect with the K2. HRD keeps stalling when updating the frequency display. The current release of HSE doesn't appear to work. I'm waiting for an update. As far as I can tell from research I've been able to do, there are firmware problems in the K2 that make the interface unreliable. Elecraft says they don't have any room in their program space to add any flow control. Does anyone have any information about this problem or comments about other control software? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
Rich I suppose it depends on what you are trying to do. Here I use TR LOG with my K2, and will shortly (as soon as I get a new(er) desktop computer) be going to SO2R with two K2s. TR will handle them just fine. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG The Little Station with Attitude -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:04 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware? I recently completed my K2. I assume that it has the very latest firmware. Although it works fine with k2Remote, it doesn't work reliably with any third-party software that I've tried. I've tried the latest version of dxLab commander, HamRadioDelux, and even purchased HamStationExtreme. Comander won't even connect with the K2. HRD keeps stalling when updating the frequency display. The current release of HSE doesn't appear to work. I'm waiting for an update. As far as I can tell from research I've been able to do, there are firmware problems in the K2 that make the interface unreliable. Elecraft says they don't have any room in their program space to add any flow control. Does anyone have any information about this problem or comments about other control software? Regards Rich - KE1EV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
Warning - if you use an external USB = serial adapter then get a good one, they are not all alike. Some can't handle the strain of repeated communications, especially with Windows 98. Some have poor driver software which gets in a muddle. I have come across the stalling problem a lot but not just with the K2, it's almost always been down the a poor USB = serial port converter. Simon Brown --- http://blog.hb9drv.ch/ - Original Message - From: David F. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rich, I have my K2 (sn 4950) working just fine with DX Lab - commander, and with HRD; no stalls; I had to adjust the frequency of interrogation to get it reliable, but it seems to be quite happy in doing it. I also remember something about setting the com port in the com tab, and the radios tab in Commander to get it happy. (Sorry, its been a while)... 73 de Dave, W5SV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently completed my K2. I assume that it has the very latest firmware. Although it works fine with k2Remote, it doesn't work reliably with any third-party software that I've tried. I've tried the latest version of dxLab commander, HamRadioDelux, and even purchased HamStationExtreme. Comander won't even connect with the K2. HRD keeps stalling when updating the frequency display. The current release of HSE doesn't appear to work. I'm waiting for an update. As far as I can tell from research I've been able to do, there are firmware problems in the K2 that make the interface unreliable. Elecraft says they don't have any room in their program space to add any flow control. Does anyone have any information about this problem or comments about other control software? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
A serious suggestion for Elecraft - sell or recommend a good USB = serial converter to avoid the misery caused by the lesser options out there. Simon Brown --- http://blog.hb9drv.ch/ - Original Message - From: Simon Brown (HB9DRV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warning - if you use an external USB = serial adapter then get a good one, they are not all alike. Some can't handle the strain of repeated communications, especially with Windows 98. Some have poor driver software which gets in a muddle. I have come across the stalling problem a lot but not just with the K2, it's almost always been down the a poor USB = serial port converter. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
Not to endorse radio shack but, I have had very good luck with their USB-Serial adapter. We went through this a few years ago, but it sure would be nice for Elecraft to make a USB interface and scrap the serial adapter altogether. I think now is the time as the last two computers I bought have NO SERIAL PORT and no way of adding a card. Rich. KE0X A serious suggestion for Elecraft - sell or recommend a good USB = serial converter to avoid the misery caused by the lesser options out there. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
Got a microHAM USB-II and it works GREAT! Rich, KE0X -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
You can always add serial ports. best thing Elecraft could do is increate the speed of the I/O card to 57,600. FWIW I have two ports on a PCI card and 4 via a USB = serial port expander. All work flawlessly. Simon Brown --- http://blog.hb9drv.ch/ - Original Message - From: Rich Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not to endorse radio shack but, I have had very good luck with their USB-Serial adapter. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
On Thursday 30 March 2006 13:22, Rich Lentz wrote: We went through this a few years ago, but it sure would be nice for Elecraft to make a USB interface and scrap the serial adapter altogether. I think now is the time as the last two computers I bought have NO SERIAL PORT and no way of adding a card. Even better than a designed-in K2 USB port, how about a Bluetooth interface for wireless connecting to a computer? I had a hard time finding a laptop computer with a serial port in October 2002. A new (January this year) tower computer that I bought came with an unwanted modem card and no serial ports. I took that card out and added a PCI two serial ports card. Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962 -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
I had the same issue with HRD and it was the USB serial adapter. The one I was using had a transfer speed of 115 mbps which apparently wasn't sufficient. Bought a Keyspan adapter with a transfer rate of 220 mbps and all works well. I did have to go into the device manager and make a few changes to the port settings for the Keyspan. Saw an Iogear adapter at WalMart for I think it was $29.00 that had a transfer rate of 200 mbps and appear to work well from accounts I've read. 73, Ed N0EHQ I recently completed my K2. I assume that it has the very latest firmware. Although it works fine with k2Remote, it doesn't work reliably with any third-party software that I've tried. I've tried the latest version of dxLab commander, HamRadioDelux, and even purchased HamStationExtreme. Comander won't even connect with the K2. HRD keeps stalling when updating the frequency display. The current release of HSE doesn't appear to work. I'm waiting for an update. As far as I can tell from research I've been able to do, there are firmware problems in the K2 that make the interface unreliable. Elecraft says they don't have any room in their program space to add any flow control. Does anyone have any information about this problem or comments about other control software? Regards Rich - KE1EV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
Thanks, I had a few responses about USB/Serial adapters. Since I've had poor luck with almost every control software program I've tried, I was suspecting the serial adapter or the K2. As you are probably aware, most notebooks no longer come with I/O ports. I've added 8 prolific USB/Serial adapters to control various radios and related devices. They seem to work on everything else I operate, so I was suspicious of the K2. There may be an issue with this particular device and the prolific ports though. I don't mind buying yet another serial adapter. Walmart is on my way home. I'll pick one up and try it. If it doesn't work, Walmart's pretty good about taking stuff back. Thanks for the info. Rich - KE1EV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the same issue with HRD and it was the USB serial adapter. The one I was using had a transfer speed of 115 mbps which apparently wasn't sufficient. Bought a Keyspan adapter with a transfer rate of 220 mbps and all works well. I did have to go into the device manager and make a few changes to the port settings for the Keyspan. Saw an Iogear adapter at WalMart for I think it was $29.00 that had a transfer rate of 200 mbps and appear to work well from accounts I've read. 73, Ed N0EHQ I recently completed my K2. I assume that it has the very latest firmware. Although it works fine with k2Remote, it doesn't work reliably with any third-party software that I've tried. I've tried the latest version of dxLab commander, HamRadioDelux, and even purchased HamStationExtreme. Comander won't even connect with the K2. HRD keeps stalling when updating the frequency display. The current release of HSE doesn't appear to work. I'm waiting for an update. As far as I can tell from research I've been able to do, there are firmware problems in the K2 that make the interface unreliable. Elecraft says they don't have any room in their program space to add any flow control. Does anyone have any information about this problem or comments about other control software? Regards Rich - KE1EV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
Oh, in re-reading your message, it looks like the transfer rate is an issue. I've got my USB/Serial adapters out on USB hubs, so they don't get full bandwidth. Maybe that's the issue. Odd that a 4800 baud device needs 200+mb connection to work... Thanks again Rich - KE1EV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the same issue with HRD and it was the USB serial adapter. The one I was using had a transfer speed of 115 mbps which apparently wasn't sufficient. Bought a Keyspan adapter with a transfer rate of 220 mbps and all works well. I did have to go into the device manager and make a few changes to the port settings for the Keyspan. Saw an Iogear adapter at WalMart for I think it was $29.00 that had a transfer rate of 200 mbps and appear to work well from accounts I've read. 73, Ed N0EHQ I recently completed my K2. I assume that it has the very latest firmware. Although it works fine with k2Remote, it doesn't work reliably with any third-party software that I've tried. I've tried the latest version of dxLab commander, HamRadioDelux, and even purchased HamStationExtreme. Comander won't even connect with the K2. HRD keeps stalling when updating the frequency display. The current release of HSE doesn't appear to work. I'm waiting for an update. As far as I can tell from research I've been able to do, there are firmware problems in the K2 that make the interface unreliable. Elecraft says they don't have any room in their program space to add any flow control. Does anyone have any information about this problem or comments about other control software? Regards Rich - KE1EV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
Not sure of the others on this list but EVERYTIME I have ever used a USB/Serial adapter on a USB hub I have had problems. Often it was not recognized upon startup of the PC - it was only recognized when unplugged and then plugged in with the PC On. I had to place the adapter in every USB socket it was ever in and then Uninstall - the device. THEN place in the HUB. The serial adapter ALWAYS had to be in the same HUB socket. I ended up with 6 - 8 serial ports only one of which was any good. Ended up restoring (can only do with WIN-XP) the PC to before I ever bought the @#$% thing. I now only place it in a specific non-HUB USB socket and always the same one. Might be a good idea to put some fingernail polish on the socket/plug. Rich, KE0X From KE1EV - Oh, in re-reading your message, it looks like the transfer rate is an issue. I've got my USB/Serial adapters out on USB hubs, so they don't get full bandwidth. Maybe that's the issue. Odd that a 4800 baud device needs 200+mb connection to work... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/298 - Release Date: 3/30/2006 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, in re-reading your message, it looks like the transfer rate is an issue. I've got my USB/Serial adapters out on USB hubs, so they don't get full bandwidth. Maybe that's the issue. Odd that a 4800 baud device needs 200+mb connection to work... Thanks again Rich - KE1EV That could be a problem! I have had radios go out to lunch with HRD and Logger32 when I was using a non external powered USB hub. So I tried a external powered USB hub. Both programs - Same thing! Went to a separate USB port per radio and no problems and this was with cheap USB - Serial adapters. 73HankK8DD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
Better yet, take the next step and provide a module for direct USB communication with a computer. The KUSB2...I can see it now, and I'll be first in line if and when it happens! 73, Ken Alexander VE3HLS --- Simon Brown (HB9DRV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A serious suggestion for Elecraft - sell or recommend a good USB = serial converter to avoid the misery caused by the lesser options out there. Simon Brown --- http://blog.hb9drv.ch/ - Original Message - From: Simon Brown (HB9DRV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warning - if you use an external USB = serial adapter then get a good one, they are not all alike. Some can't handle the strain of repeated communications, especially with Windows 98. Some have poor driver software which gets in a muddle. I have come across the stalling problem a lot but not just with the K2, it's almost always been down the a poor USB = serial port converter. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware?
Actually, I'm designing one as we speak. It's a compound USB device containing a sound card and serial port. I did a proof of concept with the design strung out on my bench. I never used it on the air but the USB side of things worked quite well. The signals on the waterfall looked very good. I tested it with Digipan 2.0, MixW, and Ham Radio Deluxe. I was never able to get my current external USB interface to work with HRD so I was very pleased. I'm purposely designing it to use the Windows-supplied drivers so no driver installation CD is required. This I hope will make it work with a wide range of software programs. However, it requires Windows XP equipped computers. I'm not sure if many people are still using the older versions of Windows. Anyway, I'm designing a prototype circuit board to test it with the K2. If that's successful, the next stage is to redesign the PC board again to get it inside the K2. I just have the base K2 so I need to determine a shape for the PCB that will work inside a basic K2 as well as a fully-loaded K2. I'm sure it's quite crowded inside with all the options. I think I might have to separate the USB Type B connector from the rest of the board in order to make installation more flexible. The design is still in the early stages but I'll be interested in enlisting the help of some testers in the future. If you'd like to help test this contraption in exchange for a completed product when released, then send me an e-mail. Kevin N8IQ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Alexander Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:47 PM To: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Computer control issues - unreliable firmware? Better yet, take the next step and provide a module for direct USB communication with a computer. The KUSB2...I can see it now, and I'll be first in line if and when it happens! 73, Ken Alexander VE3HLS --- Simon Brown (HB9DRV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A serious suggestion for Elecraft - sell or recommend a good USB = serial converter to avoid the misery caused by the lesser options out there. Simon Brown --- http://blog.hb9drv.ch/ - Original Message - From: Simon Brown (HB9DRV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warning - if you use an external USB = serial adapter then get a good one, they are not all alike. Some can't handle the strain of repeated communications, especially with Windows 98. Some have poor driver software which gets in a muddle. I have come across the stalling problem a lot but not just with the K2, it's almost always been down the a poor USB = serial port converter. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
