Re: [Elecraft] Connections for K3S, P3 Revisited
Be sure the RJ-45 portion of the K3S<->P3 "Y" cable is fully seated. Sometimes the rubber boot slides a bit on the connector and it appears to be fully mated, but isn't. It must be seated until the plastic tab on the RJ-45 clicks. There is a jumper connection in the RJ-45 connector on this cable that tells the K3S that this cable is in use. The fact that with nothing connected to the DE-9 connectors, you appear to be communicating with the K3S over USB (your step 6) suggests that the jumper is not being detected, which is why I suspect the cable may not be fully seated. 73, Lyle KK7P Let me summarize my tests in hope someone has an idea. 1. I have followed the instructions. 2. I am using the proper cable. 3. As far as I know. It seems simple. 1. Set K3S CONFIG:RS232 to USB. Connect USB between computer and K3S. [CHECK] 2. Connect CBLP3Y to P3 (top+bottom) and K3S RJ-45 Serial. [CHECK] 3. The COM Port assigned and working in Step #1 no longer works. 4. Repeat step #2, only connecting the lower connection to the P3. No joy. 5. Repeat step #2, only connecting the upper connection to the P3. No joy. 6. Repeat step #2, only connecting the RJ-45 and nothing on the P3. COM for #1 works. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Connections for K3S, P3 Revisited WORKAROUND
Byron, The way you have it connected now, you have to use two "COM" ports, one for the K3S and another for the P3. It would be better to use only one. Since you have a USB to serial adapter working with the P3, I suggest you remove the USB cable (unless you are using the internal K3S soundcard), and connect the K3S and P3 with the E980297 cable as shown on page 19 of the manual. You would then change the RS232 menu entry to the baud rate being used by your software application (use 38,400 if possible). I believe that is a better 'workaround' than you are now using. My guess is that you may have a defective CBLP3Y. You can still use the audio path provided by the USB audio section if desired. If by 'Data Terminal Mode' you are referring to displaying the K3S decode of CW and DATA on the P3 - that is not displayed on the P3 screen, but with the SVGA option in the P3, it can be displayed on the attached SVGA screen - see the SVGA option manual. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/26/2015 4:32 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: I found a workaround by using the Elecraft RJ-45-to-Serial cable and a separate PC-to-P3 USB-to-serial. I am uncertain how to test the RJ-45-to-Serial cable, but at least it no longer "breaks" my K3S to PC USB. Data Terminal Mode in the P3 seems like a secret, but I'm hunting for it now. 73, Byron __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Connections for K3S, P3 Revisited WORKAROUND
I found a workaround by using the Elecraft RJ-45-to-Serial cable and a separate PC-to-P3 USB-to-serial. I am uncertain how to test the RJ-45-to-Serial cable, but at least it no longer "breaks" my K3S to PC USB. Data Terminal Mode in the P3 seems like a secret, but I'm hunting for it now. 73, Byron On 09/26/2015 03:28 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: Let me summarize my tests in hope someone has an idea. 1. I have followed the instructions. 2. I am using the proper cable. 3. As far as I know. It seems simple. 1. Set K3S CONFIG:RS232 to USB. Connect USB between computer and K3S. [CHECK] 2. Connect CBLP3Y to P3 (top+bottom) and K3S RJ-45 Serial. [CHECK] 3. The COM Port assigned and working in Step #1 no longer works. 4. Repeat step #2, only connecting the lower connection to the P3. No joy. 5. Repeat step #2, only connecting the upper connection to the P3. No joy. 6. Repeat step #2, only connecting the RJ-45 and nothing on the P3. COM for #1 works. 7. When I use a PC-to-K3S USB and a PC-to-P3 USB those conenctions are fine, but the CBLP3Y is an issue. Is there some magic setting I'm missing? 73, Byron On 09/25/2015 09:29 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: I have had the K3S, KAT500 and KPA500 connected and configured. All units are connected to the computer via USB so I can use the appropriate Utility. Now, when I try to connect the P3 to the K3S there is this behavior. I can only use the USB *or* the RJ45 serial. Once I connect to the RJ-45 serial, the USB is disconnected at the K3S and I lose access to the COM port(s). I am guessing there is no value to the RJ-45 port once I decide to use USB, and I should use the USB-DB9 connector to connect the P3 to my PC for the P3 Utility. I thought I had seen something where the PC connected through the K3S or P3 to the otyher, but I can't find that documented so I think it's recovered childhood memory. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Connections for K3S, P3 Revisited
Let me summarize my tests in hope someone has an idea. 1. I have followed the instructions. 2. I am using the proper cable. 3. As far as I know. It seems simple. 1. Set K3S CONFIG:RS232 to USB. Connect USB between computer and K3S. [CHECK] 2. Connect CBLP3Y to P3 (top+bottom) and K3S RJ-45 Serial. [CHECK] 3. The COM Port assigned and working in Step #1 no longer works. 4. Repeat step #2, only connecting the lower connection to the P3. No joy. 5. Repeat step #2, only connecting the upper connection to the P3. No joy. 6. Repeat step #2, only connecting the RJ-45 and nothing on the P3. COM for #1 works. 7. When I use a PC-to-K3S USB and a PC-to-P3 USB those conenctions are fine, but the CBLP3Y is an issue. Is there some magic setting I'm missing? 73, Byron On 09/25/2015 09:29 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: I have had the K3S, KAT500 and KPA500 connected and configured. All units are connected to the computer via USB so I can use the appropriate Utility. Now, when I try to connect the P3 to the K3S there is this behavior. I can only use the USB *or* the RJ45 serial. Once I connect to the RJ-45 serial, the USB is disconnected at the K3S and I lose access to the COM port(s). I am guessing there is no value to the RJ-45 port once I decide to use USB, and I should use the USB-DB9 connector to connect the P3 to my PC for the P3 Utility. I thought I had seen something where the PC connected through the K3S or P3 to the otyher, but I can't find that documented so I think it's recovered childhood memory. I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Connections for K3S, P3 Revisited
I have had the K3S, KAT500 and KPA500 connected and configured. All units are connected to the computer via USB so I can use the appropriate Utility. Now, when I try to connect the P3 to the K3S there is this behavior. I can only use the USB *or* the RJ45 serial. Once I connect to the RJ-45 serial, the USB is disconnected at the K3S and I lose access to the COM port(s). I am guessing there is no value to the RJ-45 port once I decide to use USB, and I should use the USB-DB9 connector to connect the P3 to my PC for the P3 Utility. I thought I had seen something where the PC connected through the K3S or P3 to the otyher, but I can't find that documented so I think it's recovered childhood memory. In summary, I expect to connect PC-to-P3 via USB-DB9 and have only the DC-power and IF-BNC between the K3S and the P3. DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? 73, Byron __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Connections for K3S, P3 Revisited
In summary, I expect to connect PC-to-P3 via USB-DB9 and have only the DC-power and IF-BNC between the K3S and the P3. DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? No. If you plan to connect the computer to the K3S using the internal USB port, you need to use the optional CBL3Y cable from Elecraft to connect the P3 as documented on page 18 of the K3S Owner's Manual. The alternative is to use the standard E98097 cable to connect P3 to the K3S and connect the computer to the P3 PC jack using the K3USB or a standard serial port a shown on page 19 of the K3S Owner's Manual. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 9/25/2015 9:29 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: I have had the K3S, KAT500 and KPA500 connected and configured. All units are connected to the computer via USB so I can use the appropriate Utility. Now, when I try to connect the P3 to the K3S there is this behavior. I can only use the USB *or* the RJ45 serial. Once I connect to the RJ-45 serial, the USB is disconnected at the K3S and I lose access to the COM port(s). I am guessing there is no value to the RJ-45 port once I decide to use USB, and I should use the USB-DB9 connector to connect the P3 to my PC for the P3 Utility. I thought I had seen something where the PC connected through the K3S or P3 to the otyher, but I can't find that documented so I think it's recovered childhood memory. In summary, I expect to connect PC-to-P3 via USB-DB9 and have only the DC-power and IF-BNC between the K3S and the P3. DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? 73, Byron __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Connections for K3S, P3 Revisited
THis is what I did, but it seems to disable the K3S USB port. I have the K3S RS232 setting set to USB; should that be 38400 instead? Would USB still work? 73, Byron On 09/25/2015 09:58 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: In summary, I expect to connect PC-to-P3 via USB-DB9 and have only the DC-power and IF-BNC between the K3S and the P3. DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? No. If you plan to connect the computer to the K3S using the internal USB port, you need to use the optional CBL3Y cable from Elecraft to connect the P3 as documented on page 18 of the K3S Owner's Manual. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Connections for K3S, P3 Revisited
Byron, See page 18 of the K3S manual for connection to the P3 if you are using the USB port on the K3S. You must use the CBLP3Y cable between the K3S RJ-45 connector and the P3. Note that the connector with 2 cables plugs into the XCVR DE-9 connector on the P3. If you are using a USB to RS-232 adapter between the computer and the P3/K3S, refer to the diagram on page 19 of the manual - connect the USB to RS-232 adapter to the P3 "PC" connector and connect the P3 XVTR connector to the K3S using the E980297 DE-9 to RJ-45 cable. Read pages 18 through 20 of the K3S manual. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/25/2015 9:29 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: I have had the K3S, KAT500 and KPA500 connected and configured. All units are connected to the computer via USB so I can use the appropriate Utility. Now, when I try to connect the P3 to the K3S there is this behavior. I can only use the USB *or* the RJ45 serial. Once I connect to the RJ-45 serial, the USB is disconnected at the K3S and I lose access to the COM port(s). I am guessing there is no value to the RJ-45 port once I decide to use USB, and I should use the USB-DB9 connector to connect the P3 to my PC for the P3 Utility. I thought I had seen something where the PC connected through the K3S or P3 to the otyher, but I can't find that documented so I think it's recovered childhood memory. In summary, I expect to connect PC-to-P3 via USB-DB9 and have only the DC-power and IF-BNC between the K3S and the P3. DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? 73, Byron __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w3...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
