Re: [Elecraft] Considering purchase of K4D

2024-03-13 Thread Rick NK7I

The highlights are:

1)

 * A MUCH quieter receiver (the BEST CW rig I've used over the past
   almost 50 years);
 * Better overall performance;
 * It is a living growing product (some things, still being fleshed out
   or developed)
 * Ability to manage via one real serial port, 2 USB com ports or
   unlimited via IP _all at the same time_.
 * It will only get better over time;  the K3 is a 'dead end' line
   (that still works VERY well) it has reached it's limit;
 * You can get parts and add ons for the K4;
 * It has ability to be run by it's internal or external macros (HUGE
   flexibility option);
 * Native 1GHz capable network, in place;
 * Simpler overall interfacing for specific station needs (antennas,
   transverters, switches);
 * Simpler remote operations, including K4-K4 without a computer and
   VK4 on laptops, tablets and phones (shortly).

Noise reduction and noise blanking, is one of the works in progress 
(remote operations topped 'the list').  While adequate for me now (I'm 
rural but with some power lines, electric fences and other rural 
'things'); it could be made better.  The quieter receiver does help make 
weaker signals heard, most of the time even with the noises of farm and 
timber lands.


2)

 * Because Rob Sherwood (and he has clearly stated) only saw one K4
   with the earlier firmware versions and it is MUCH improved now (and
   still in progress).  If you read the rest of Rob, it's not about all
   of the numbers, but a compilation of MANY factors (mostly UI like
   menu and knob access).
 * An updated evaluation can be done IF someone is willing to loan (or
   buy) a K4 for Rob for testing (takes xxx weeks, he's thorough).
 * One does not judge the performance of any living line, on the first
   model (i.e. the Mustang, Corvette or Camaro); things get better
   (it's no Pinto or Edsel).
 * There is one likely near you; seek it out and ask to see it play (or
   watch some videos online).

Is the K4 perfect?  Not yet but my very well dressed K3/P3 sits in a 
storage box (next to other bygone gear).


Is now the right time to buy?  Yes, there is a sale until the end of the 
month (or buy used but be QUICK about it once posted, seconds count) and 
the prices won't get much better.


To install my K4, I pulled the K3/P3 off the desk, reconnected 
everything to the K4 and was up and running in minutes (excluding some 
software changes of course, mostly port settings and audio levels).


I'm no shill and I have no issue in being direct.  I liked the K4 so 
much that I bought a second for chair two or as backup should the need 
ever arise.  (Station growth never ends.)


Most of the default menus items were 'ok' and over the next couple weeks 
were adjusted to my operating preferences (DXing) and local conditions.


K3 to K4 transition is not a steep learning curve; but they are two 
different rigs, there IS a curve.  (Kenwood to Elecraft, slightly 
steeper.  "Other" brands, steeper again but MUCH simpler.)


73,
Rick nk7i


On 3/13/2024 12:56 PM, n...@earthlink.net wrote:

I am considering the purchase of a K4D, upgrading from K3+ ("+" means I have
installed all available upgrades except the USB I/O board, but it is not
quite a K3s), but I have a few questions and pardon me if these have been
asked and answered before, as they probably have:

  


1.  Other than diversity receive, what additional benefits do I get with
the 'D' version (for $1000)?
2.  Why is the K4D down so low on the Sherwood receiver list and does it
really make a difference in a somewhat noise, semi-urban environment?

  


Thanks in advance,

  


Allen R. Brier N5XZ

1515 Windloch Lane

Richmond, TX 77406

713-705-4801

n...@arrl.net

  


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Re: [Elecraft] Considering purchase of K4D

2024-03-13 Thread Jim Brown

Hi Allen,

On 3/13/2024 12:56 PM, n...@earthlink.net wrote:

Other than diversity receive, what additional benefits do I get with
the 'D' version (for $1000)?


Diversity RX is a biggie if you can rig decent antennas to use with it. 
I also use it in 160 contests when I want to listen in more than one 
direction, or when I want to listen with a wide antenna and a Beverage 
to get weak callers off-axis of the RX antenna



2.  Why is the K4D down so low on the Sherwood receiver list and does it
really make a difference in a somewhat noise, semi-urban environment?


Remember that the Sherwood list is for a single parameter. I live in an 
environment that can be very quiet or very noisy, depending on time of 
day, what my neighbors are doing, where my RX is pointed. There are two 
solar systems at my 8 acre property line, a third across the road. I 
have Beverages pointed at all three. I'm a serious contester, and also 
serious on 6M. I'm quite satisfied with my K4D. In comparison to my 
upgraded 2008 K3, I like the filters a lot better, like the integration 
with computer, like the control layout, and like the sound of the radio 
that 15-year newer devices allow.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Considering purchase of K4D

2024-03-13 Thread Michael Carter via Elecraft
Hi Allen,

If you're not already aware of it, there is a dedicated K4
forum on groups.io that is likely a richer source of
answers to your question.  The posts here regarding the
K4 are infrequent.  Be prepared for a fire hose of response
when you pose your questions over there - elecraft...@groups.io.

73,
Mike, K8CN
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[Elecraft] Considering purchase of K4D

2024-03-13 Thread n5xz
I am considering the purchase of a K4D, upgrading from K3+ ("+" means I have
installed all available upgrades except the USB I/O board, but it is not
quite a K3s), but I have a few questions and pardon me if these have been
asked and answered before, as they probably have:

 

1.  Other than diversity receive, what additional benefits do I get with
the 'D' version (for $1000)?
2.  Why is the K4D down so low on the Sherwood receiver list and does it
really make a difference in a somewhat noise, semi-urban environment?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Allen R. Brier N5XZ

1515 Windloch Lane

Richmond, TX 77406

713-705-4801

n...@arrl.net

 

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