Re: [Elecraft] Do you believe this guy?

2008-11-04 Thread dj7mgq

From urbanlegends.about.com :



Summary: Circulating via email, an alleged quote from Barack Obama  
explains why he doesn't wear a flag pin or salute the flag during the  
national anthem.


Description: Email hoax / Satire
Circulating since: March 2008
Status: False




See the following page for more information:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama_anthem.htm



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Re: [Elecraft] Do you believe this guy?

2008-11-04 Thread Jim Cox
Political opinions are not a good subject for the Elecraft Reflector.  Send 
them to your buddies but not directly to a reflector.   Jim K4JAF

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  Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:29 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Do you believe this guy?


  The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised 
  'Meet The Press'. The author is employed by none other than the 
  Washington Post!! 

  From Sunday's 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, Televised 'Meet the 
  Press' Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. 

  General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain WHY he 
  doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played. 
  The General also stated to Obama that according to the United 
  States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... 

  During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is 
  displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand 
  at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at 
  the very least, 'Stand and Face It'. 

  Senator Obama replied: 
  'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived 
  as taking sides'. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the 
  American flag is a symbol of oppression.' 

  'The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the 
  bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing.' 

  ARE YOU READY FOR THIS??? 

  Obama said: 'The National Anthem should be 'swapped' for 
  something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like 
  To Teach the World To Sing'. If that were our anthem, then, I might 
  salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National 
  Anthem as well as 'redesign' our Flag to better offer our enemies hope 
  and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level 
  of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of waring 
  people, conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam where peace prevails - 
  - - perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our 
  governments .' 


  When I become President, I will seek a pact or 
  agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war 
  or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive 
  thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon the nations of Islam an unfair 
  injustice which is WHY my Wife disrespects the Flag and she and I have 
  attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past'. 


  'Of course now, I have found myself about to become the 
  President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside. I will 
  use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new 
  path. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First black 
  Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of 
  America' 

  WHAAAT the Hell is that!!! 
  Yes, you read it right. 


  This could possibly be our next President. 
  I, for one, am speechless!!! 


Dale Lindsborg, 
Washington Post 
HOW FAST CAN YOU FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW??? 




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Re: [Elecraft] Do you believe this guy?

2008-11-04 Thread Sain'T Tom
The original sender could have accidently (unintentionally) selected the 
Elecraft reflector as a recipient of his email post. 


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[Elecraft] Do you believe this guy?

2008-11-04 Thread Don Rasmussen
AMEN! ;-)



John, I don't need to read political b.s., no matter what the slant,
first thing in the morning, especially this morning.  I'd hope we'd
keep politics and religion out of the sphere of discussion.

73,
Barry N1EU


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Re: [Elecraft] Do you believe this guy? (END of Thread]

2008-11-04 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft

Guys - this thread is officially ended.

Please, no politics or related threads on this reflector.

Eric   WA6HHQ
Elecraft Moderator

_..._

Don Rasmussen wrote:

AMEN! ;-)



John, I don't need to read political b.s., no matter what the slant,
first thing in the morning, especially this morning.  I'd hope we'd
keep politics and religion out of the sphere of discussion.



  

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[Elecraft] Do you believe this guy?

2008-11-04 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
This is not ham radio, however

reminds me of, A sucker is born every minute.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_say_the_national_anthem_conveys.html

Vote however you like, but base it on facts.  Personally, I would hate
to win something based on lies about my opposition (in either
direction).

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] Do you believe this guy?

2008-11-04 Thread OE5CSP-Chris

Folks,

What has this got to do with ham radio??? Please- no politics, no religion
!! 


73, Chris-OE5CSP
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Re: [Elecraft] Do you believe this guy?

2008-11-04 Thread Mike S
What callsigns do McCain and Obama hold? I'm guessing McCain hangs out 
on 80M AM, and Obama on 2M FM, but that would mean they don't have K2s.


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RE: [Elecraft] Do you believe this guy?

2008-11-04 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
And certainly has nothing to do with Elecraft either.

Which begs the question what is the reason for posting this on this
reflector.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:29 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Do you believe this guy?

This is not ham radio, however

reminds me of, A sucker is born every minute.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_say_the_national_anthem_conv
eys.html

Vote however you like, but base it on facts.  Personally, I would hate to
win something based on lies about my opposition (in either direction).

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] Do you believe this guy?

2008-11-04 Thread Rod G3YHM

Will some one please stop this sort of post being put on the Elecraft forum.

There are more than enough other sights which can display such a message.

I really don't want to know!






John Trager wrote:
 
 The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised 
 'Meet The Press'. The author is employed by none other than the 
 Washington Post!! 
 
From Sunday's 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, Televised 'Meet the 
 Press' Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. 
 
 General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain WHY he 
 doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played. 
 The General also stated to Obama that according to the United 
 States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... 
 
 During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is 
 displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand 
 at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at 
 the very least, 'Stand and Face It'. 
 
 Senator Obama replied: 
 'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived 
 as taking sides'. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the 
 American flag is a symbol of oppression.' 
 
 'The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the 
 bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing.' 
 
 ARE YOU READY FOR THIS??? 
 
 Obama said: 'The National Anthem should be 'swapped' for 
 something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like 
 To Teach the World To Sing'. If that were our anthem, then, I might 
 salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National 
 Anthem as well as 'redesign' our Flag to better offer our enemies hope 
 and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level 
 of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of waring 
 people, conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam where peace prevails - 
 - - perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our 
 governments .' 
 
 
 When I become President, I will seek a pact or 
 agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war 
 or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive 
 thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon the nations of Islam an unfair 
 injustice which is WHY my Wife disrespects the Flag and she and I have 
 attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past'. 
 
 
 'Of course now, I have found myself about to become the 
 President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside. I will 
 use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new 
 path. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First black 
 Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of 
 America' 
 
 WHAAAT the Hell is that!!! 
 Yes, you read it right. 
 
 
 This could possibly be our next President. 
 I, for one, am speechless!!! 
 
 
   Dale Lindsborg, 
   Washington Post 
   HOW FAST CAN YOU FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW??? 
 
 
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[Elecraft] Do you believe this guy?

2008-11-03 Thread John Trager
The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised 
'Meet The Press'. The author is employed by none other than the 
Washington Post!! 

From Sunday's 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, Televised 'Meet the 
Press' Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. 

General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain WHY he 
doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played. 
The General also stated to Obama that according to the United 
States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... 

During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is 
displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand 
at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at 
the very least, 'Stand and Face It'. 

Senator Obama replied: 
'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived 
as taking sides'. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the 
American flag is a symbol of oppression.' 

'The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the 
bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing.' 

ARE YOU READY FOR THIS??? 

Obama said: 'The National Anthem should be 'swapped' for 
something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like 
To Teach the World To Sing'. If that were our anthem, then, I might 
salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National 
Anthem as well as 'redesign' our Flag to better offer our enemies hope 
and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level 
of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of waring 
people, conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam where peace prevails - 
- - perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our 
governments .' 


When I become President, I will seek a pact or 
agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war 
or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive 
thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon the nations of Islam an unfair 
injustice which is WHY my Wife disrespects the Flag and she and I have 
attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past'. 


'Of course now, I have found myself about to become the 
President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside. I will 
use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new 
path. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First black 
Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of 
America' 

WHAAAT the Hell is that!!! 
Yes, you read it right. 


This could possibly be our next President. 
I, for one, am speechless!!! 


  Dale Lindsborg, 
  Washington Post 
  HOW FAST CAN YOU FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW??? 

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