Re: [Elecraft] ELecraft K2 DATA port IMPORTANT update

2008-04-28 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jean-Francios,

Congratulations on identifying and resolving the ground loop problem.

For those situations where a separate power supply is either required or 
desirable, the use of an optoisolator instead of the more simple 
transistor PTT/KEYING arrangement can also cure the ground loop 
problem.  However, one must be careful not to unintentionally power the 
optoisolator in such a way to make that 'sneaky' gound loop path 
re-appear.  In most cases, the optoisolator should be powered from the 
same supply that powers the device on the 'transistor' side of the 
optoisolator.


73,
Don W3FPR

Jean-François Ménard wrote:

Hi everybody,

Since my first prototype of the K2 DATA port implementation, I did 
some extensive test today during an outdoor portable operation.


I found that ground loop can occur on lower band... 40m or lower... 
And the problem come from the PTT line that goes to ground during 
TX. Even if the line IN and OUT are both isolated with an audio 
tranformer.


I also test today my DATA port with my SCS PTC-IIe modem and had the 
same problem.


I finally found the problem and solved it !!

Like SCS (PTC-IIe manufactuer) said in their user manual. If you 
tranceiver have an external power option, like found on Yaesu FT-8XX 
data connector, YOU SHOULD USE IT. Do not power your modem from 
another power source, but from the transceiver port itself. Like for 
the NUE-PSK, PTC-IIe or any other TNC... always power your device with 
power from your transceiver.


This way, you will avoid ground loop that will harm your signal 
quality for sure.


I just add one wire inside my K2 to the DATA port. I took the 12V line 
from the AUX 12V connector inside the K2. This way, you will not have 
any more problem and finally have an universal DATA port ffor almost 
any kind of external device.


I will post a revised schematic on my website this week.

Like my previous modification, I always use RG-174 for inside wires. 
It does prevent RF pickup during transmit and keep the signal as clean 
as possible.


I will also post a few more pics.

Another tip, apply acrylic coating spray on the back of the amplifier 
board before applying the two way tape. It will prevent short circuit 
with any electronic part with the chassis.


Best 73,

de J-F VA2SS
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[Elecraft] ELecraft K2 DATA port IMPORTANT update

2008-04-27 Thread Jean-François Ménard

Hi everybody,

Since my first prototype of the K2 DATA port implementation, I did some 
extensive test today during an outdoor portable operation.


I found that ground loop can occur on lower band... 40m or lower... And the 
problem come from the PTT line that goes to ground during TX. Even if 
the line IN and OUT are both isolated with an audio tranformer.


I also test today my DATA port with my SCS PTC-IIe modem and had the same 
problem.


I finally found the problem and solved it !!

Like SCS (PTC-IIe manufactuer) said in their user manual. If you tranceiver 
have an external power option, like found on Yaesu FT-8XX data connector, 
YOU SHOULD USE IT. Do not power your modem from another power source, but 
from the transceiver port itself. Like for the NUE-PSK, PTC-IIe or any other 
TNC... always power your device with power from your transceiver.


This way, you will avoid ground loop that will harm your signal quality for 
sure.


I just add one wire inside my K2 to the DATA port. I took the 12V line from 
the AUX 12V connector inside the K2. This way, you will not have any more 
problem and finally have an universal DATA port ffor almost any kind of 
external device.


I will post a revised schematic on my website this week.

Like my previous modification, I always use RG-174 for inside wires. It does 
prevent RF pickup during transmit and keep the signal as clean as possible.


I will also post a few more pics.

Another tip, apply acrylic coating spray on the back of the amplifier board 
before applying the two way tape. It will prevent short circuit with any 
electronic part with the chassis.


Best 73,

de J-F VA2SS
===

de J-F VA2SS 


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